It was a mostly HG culture of largely blond and blue eyed individuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJP-gW59E8g

all the males are I2

>>17864378 (OP)
the guys were like 85% shg, it's pretty obvious that shgs were the ultimate source of blonde hair and blue eyes among humans

>>17864378 (OP)
this is the whitest individual he's ever predicted if i'm not wrong, in general all the blondes he predicts turn out "dark blonde" while she's turned out to be medium blonde, and her eyes have such high probability of being blue that he bothered to specify "very blue"

>>17864378 (OP)
Damn their women must have looked good servicing churka WSH cock.

>>17864408
they have no wsh ancestry, purely euro HG with a bit of farmer ancestry and all the male haplogroups are exclusively I2

>>17864413
Because WSH hadn't arrived to rape them yet and form the majority ancestry of modern Scandinavians, genius.

>>17864423
hard to say, scandis descend from a group of corded that ended up being largely I1
we aren't talking about puny farmers here afterall but hunterbvlls

>>17864378 (OP)
that always made sense, but at the end of the day most aryan featured people are the baltics, so there's additional data tha (You) are not considering

>>17864431
More Scandis are R1 together than they are I2. Steppejeets won.

>>17864378 (OP)
>Andrei DNA

>>17864473
steppe lost, just inferior to nordic looking HGbvlls

>>17864401
>>17864378 (OP)
their GAC neighbors were just a pale imitation of these guys, that were basically identical their I2 nordic hunter gatherer fathers

>A 2018 study described the skin, hair and eye pigmentation of two Pitted Ware individuals from the Ajvide Settlement on the western coast of Gotland. The authors described the Pitted Ware specimens as sharing part of their phenotypic variation with Scandinavian Hunter Gatherers. Both specimens had a high probability of being dark-haired. One exhibited alleles associated with dark skin pigmentation on the SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 genes, while the other specimen carried a mix of alleles at these positions. The two specimens had a high probability of being blue eyed.[20]
>A 2019 study published in Proceedings of the Royal Society B the remains of a Pitted Ware male were analyzed. It was found that the Pitted Ware people only slightly contributed to the gene pool of the Battle Axe culture, who were almost wholly of Western Steppe Herder descent
KEKdrei posted some bullshit again.

>>17864490
>engaging with an antiwhite shill
shame 2bh

>>17864504
GAC is also predicted to be dark in studies, GAC being light is an online meme

>>17864378 (OP)
>narrowing down all of your identity and heritage to three irrelevant and highly variable phenotypic traits
These hg share negligible ancestry with modern Europeans, they passed down almost no genes to modern Europeans and they were a completely difference race from you, as distant as Chinese are, they only converged on a few modern European coloring traits by pure chance, they were basically 80 iq aborigines and would have been nothing like you. Only a cultureless rootless American would fixate on color genes as the basis of their entire heritage and self-identity.

>>17864511
From my understanding light phenptypes became common only in late bronze age.

>>17864504
from the same study
>Interestingly, the eye and light skin pigmentation phenotypes observed in all SHGs could potentially be explained by admixture between WHG and EHG groups. The high relative-frequency of the blue-eye color allele in SHGs, resembles WHG, while the intermediate frequencies of the skin color determining SNPs in SHGs seem more likely to have come from EHG, since both light-pigmented alleles are virtually absent from WHG. However, for all three well-characterized skin and eye-color associated SNPs, the SHGs display a frequency that is greater for the light-skin variants and the blue-eye variant than can be expected from a mixture of WHGs and EHGs. This observation indicates that the frequencies may have increased due to continued adaptation to a low light conditions
shgs won, the original white males

>>17864525
post nose

>>17864534
Modern Europeans are not descended from shg, they were merely subjected to similar selective pressures. Blue eyes are an advantage for low-light forest hunting, they improve night vision, and light skin is useful for vitamin d production. Light hair is a very ancient ANE trait, we are still not sure why it was selected for.

These traits do not constitute an identity. Burgers would worship blond niggers before they accept that their very recent direct ancestors were darker before a selection sweep.

>>17864561
>>17864537

>>17864504
lighter than the gacs to be honest:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1820210116
>>17864561
ane was not blond and blondism doesn't come from ane

>>17864537
>Your ANE ancestors spent 40,000 years as a pure stable race hunting on the mammoth steppe, they were the earliest humans evolved for the cold, they gave you the basis of Aryan myth and culture, they also domesticated the dog
>Your Aryan ancestors domesticated the horse and conquered most of the known world
>Your ANF ancestors invented agriculture and built the earliest urban settlements
>Fixate on some unrelated aborigines because they randomly had similar hair, eye and skin color which your ancestors would be selected for thousands of years later completely independently
This is what happens when you base your whole identity on color. We are Aryans, that is our race and tribe, our heritage is not defined by two or three color genes.

>>17864567
>blondism doesn't come from ane
ANE are by far the earliest population known to carry genes for blondism, and all subsequent populations which manifested the trait were substantially descended from ANE

>>17864583
cool story jew, didn't read

>>17864592
the gene for blondism that ANE carried contributes very little to blonde hairs
the "blue eye" gene that the whg carries has a higher chance of giving you blonde hairs, the ANE is predicted as brown eyed, the first ever blonde sample found is an shg
>In this time transect we observe for the first time an individual with inferred blue eyes, blonde hair and light skin, NEO27, a hunter-gatherer from sweden who lived approximately 12,000 years ago

>>17864602
*the ANE is predicted as black haired

>>17864602
ANE carried the genes for blonde hair for thousands of years before that, but the traits was not selected to fixation. SHG picked up the trait from ANE and subjected it to strong positive selection.

The fact is that SHG were completely wiped out, our ancestors were subjected to the same selection sweep independently thousands of years later, SHG have basically nothing to do with modern European populations.

>>17864616
>ANE carried the genes for blonde hair for thousands of years before that
do you understand the english language? studies have proven that rs12821256 does not contribute much to blond hair
you can see here that rs1667394 in oca2 has higher chances of giving you blonde hairs why isn't that the "blonde hair gene" , rs1805007 has higher chances of giving you blonde hairs why isn't that the "blonde hair gene"?
>SHG picked up the trait from ANE and subjected it to strong positive selection.
no, shgs had low or no frequency of that snp, not even the NEO27 had it
>The fact is that SHG were completely wiped out, our ancestors were subjected to the same selection sweep independently thousands of years later, SHG have basically nothing to do with modern European populations.
shg-like populations contributed to modern europeans

>>17864623
>rs12821256 does not contribute much to blond hair
Ok schizo, there is a total scientific consensus that rs12821256 is the main causative gene for blonde hair in modern Europeans, you are spinning nonsense out of some one random table with statistics that you so not understand
>shg-like populations contributed to modern europeans
Most of Western eurasia were "shg-like" populations. The fact is that shg were just the northern range of wsg with some additional ANE ancestry which gave them blonde hair, they have no significance beyond that

>>17864653
>Ok schizo, there is a total scientific consensus that rs12821256 is the main causative gene for blonde hair in modern Europeans
no there is absolutely not
> you are spinning nonsense out of some one random table with statistics that you so not understand
these tables come from studies, if you can't read a simple table that is not my fault, even a child could understand it, rs12821256 has a lower chance of predicting blonde hairs than some irrelevant snp like rs12896399,

here is the study
https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.2007.13
since it's behind paywall you can see it here
https://sci-hub.red/https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.2007.13

but wait that's not all, there are more studies, just wait there, so maybe you stop spreading false information about "blonde ane"

>>17864662
>2007
I'm not reading that outdated 20 year old slop, genetic science has advanced dramatically since then. The the modern concensus is absolutely clear that rs12821256 is the main gene for blondism, why are you fixated on pushing bullshit, what is there to gain?

>>17864408
>Churkas
>zero Churka DNA
???

>>17864662
>no there is absolutely not
There is, we covered this last thread.
You stopped replying when I posted the study in the previous thread.
ANE IS the definitive origin of blondism and its undeniable they expressed blondism.
>>17864675
she has ANE Y DNA and doesnt want xir rapist to be any kind of White because it would damage their pride.

The pain blackpilled incels feel is cranked up to 100 on historically inclined terminally online shitskins.
imagine getting turbomogged by chads everyday seeing White people who mogg you, everyday learning about history and seeing the absolute dominance of Whites, at least Whitecels are apart of the dominant race, browncel have no such copes.

>>17864713
No, you don't get it, you may have inherited most of your genes, culture and language from Yamnaya, but you have to identify with some random aborigines because they selected to fixation three color genes which the descendants of Yamnaya would also select to fixation thousands of years later. Listen, we decided to construct our whole identity on three color genes, so that means these abos are our people and yamnaya are not.

>>17864675
>I'm not reading that outdated 20 year old slop, genetic science has advanced dramatically since then
i knew you would reply that, it's not outdated, worthless tranny, it's comparing actual hair, eye and skin color of real people with their gene frequencies and see which one has higher chances of blonde hairs vs brown
it's not a "tool", this is basic math, it can't get outdated

and here another newer study from 2018
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07691-z

>The the modern concensus is absolutely clear that rs12821256 is the main gene for blondism
nope, there's no such consensus, why don't you post something proving this consensus, consensus doesn't means "this snp increases the chances of blonde hairs", that's not a consensus, you have to find something that says "this snp is the main contributor to blonde hairs in europeans"

>>17864727
>There is, we covered this last thread.
there is not
>You stopped replying when I posted the study in the previous thread.
i stopped replying because i had other shit to do and when i came back the thread was archived
>ANE IS the definitive origin of blondism and its undeniable they expressed blondism.
it's not and you cannot prove it, you have to find something that says "this snp is the main contributor to blonde hairs in europeans"

why are you samefagging, i know you're the same poster here >>17864675

>>17864752
>>17864727
seems that i actually replied to you, you only posted a study that claimed
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17850516/#17854153 rs12821256 increased the chances of blonde hairs, not that it was the main contributor to blonde hairs in europeans

this is perfectly fine by me since it increases the chances of having blonde hairs, just by a little and less than many other snps

also btw chgs were brown eyed MENAs
>Both Kotias and Satsurblia CHGs [15] were predicted by Hirisplex to have brown eyes (>0.96) and a dark hair shade (>0.92). Looking at skin-pigmentation sites, both individuals carried the dark-skin allele at rs16891982 and the light-pigmentation allele at rs1426654. Similar to the Hum2 and Motala12 individuals, Kotias showed exclusively haplotype-associated alleles at the C11-defining positions (with at least 5 reads of such alleles per site), suggesting it carried the C11 haplotype
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5760011

and quit pretending to be white, only white people have euro HG ancestry unlike ane, being anti euro HG ancestry is the ultimate form of anti whiteness

>>17864776
>>17864757
>I actually replied
It seems you doubled down on the silly claim refuted by the study I posted lol.
>you can not prove it
Its already been proven, it is an allele that is found almost exclusively in individuals with expressed blondism. it is a necessary allele for a substantial number of European blondes.
ANE is the ultimate origin of the Nordic type. You are a brown, you are coping, the people who fathered you looked nothing like you and would want nothing to do with you.
>brown eyed MENAs
except they arent in any MENA cluster.

>Euro HG ancestry
ANE and WHG have the same deep ancestry and intermingled extensively, sharing similar culture and ever more similar blood. Both were robust, broad, hairy, and featured traits exclusive to Whites or White admixed populations.
This is also true for CHG. The highest CHG population today is in Western Georgia where blue eyes reach 40% (higher than France) and light hair and light skin is more common than the Mediterranean.

The uncomfortable truth is the more White-passing an ancient people were the more dominant they were culturally, sexually, militarily.
Its almost like White dominance today isnt random but is actually a product of White excellence.

EHGoloids lost in a lot of places for sure. Is I1 the Nordic version of pic related? What happened there in the Bronze Age?

>>17864838
>It seems you doubled down on the silly claim refuted by the study I posted lol.
you didn't post any post any study and no study refuted any of my claim

>ts already been proven, it is an allele that is found almost exclusively in individuals with expressed blondism. it is a necessary allele for a substantial number of European blondes.
this is not true and completely unproven, you're literally inventing things

post a study confirming rs12821256 is the main contributor to blonde hairs in europeans
i understand you're try the typical tactic of claiming you posted it even tho you never did, doesn't work with me

>except they arent in any MENA cluster.
right, that's gotta be why they're next to iranians, armenians, georgians, azeris, kurds, pakis and others mongrels

>This is also true for CHG. The highest CHG population today is in Western Georgia where blue eyes reach 40% (higher than France) and light hair and light skin is more common than the Mediterranean.
this is not true, there's no source for this claim, lemme guess you're gonna post the fake unsourced map of the shanghai study?

>>17864838
>It seems you doubled down on the silly claim refuted by the study I posted lol.
you didn't post any study and no study refuted any of my claims

>ts already been proven, it is an allele that is found almost exclusively in individuals with expressed blondism. it is a necessary allele for a substantial number of European blondes.
this is not true and completely unproven, you're literally inventing things

post a study confirming rs12821256 is the main contributor to blonde hair in europeans
i understand you're trying the typical tactic of claiming you posted it even tho you never did, doesn't work with me

>except they arent in any MENA cluster.
right, that's gotta be why they're next to iranians, armenians, georgians, azeris, kurds, pakis and others mongrels

>This is also true for CHG. The highest CHG population today is in Western Georgia where blue eyes reach 40% (higher than France) and light hair and light skin is more common than the Mediterranean.
this is not true, there's no source for this claim, lemme guess you're gonna post the fake unsourced map of the shanghai study?

>>17864855
that's a georgian subhuman, the same brownoid that create the "huazhong""shanghai" fake map, this explains his love for the chg

>>17864858
Do you think he created that map? It could be true

>>17864855
are georgians basically brown iranians?

>>17864864
Pretty much , they look identical

>xhe's still seething at CHG because they might've been the original PIA speakers

>>17864870
debunked shit, also this confirms that you are a brown georgian

reminder rs12821256 contributes little to blond hair, and there's no consensus on it being the main cause of blondism in europeans, and you haven't posted a single study in this thread confirming it, so don't say you did

gergians are brown and 1% blue eyed on a good day, the map supposedly made in shanghai that claims georgians are 40% blue eyed is fake and no source has ever been found, probably made by a brown georgian

>>17864872
I wasn't even part of the discussion. I just find your unhinged seethe amusing.

>>17864885
you were part of the discussion and there's nothing "unhinged" about what i'm saying, all i'm saying is 100% factual and proven, this is part of your tactic of trying to make me pass as "unhinged" as an excuse to not reply

this doesn't work with me
there's no consensus on rs12821256 being the main cause of blondism in europeans, and you haven't posted a single study in this thread confirming it, so don't say you did
the map supposedly made in shanghai that claims georgians are 40% blue eyed is fake and no source has ever been found, probably made by a brown georgian

>>17864855
>didnt post any study
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4704868/
except for the one I posted which you literally quoted in your reply.
>tripling down
You have posted no data, no study, and continue to make unfounded claims.
You clearly have some kind of mental illness
>post a study
I did. The study I posted shows this particular Allele matches perfectly with frequency of blondism in a population.
next to iranians
Iranian HG isnt synonymous with Modern Iranians.
They arent next to anyone, CHG form their own distinct cluster, they are not within any modern cluster.
Unlike say Bell Beaker which is within the modern European cluster.

How about a specialist in the field of racial anthropology?

>>17864872
>>17864908
You legitimately are unhinged outright denying studies and raising objections to phantom arguments no one made.
ANE created blondism.

your term "hairs" reminds me of a shitalian poster who was here years ago who used to hate ANE because it was his rapedaddy, being R1b and completely Anatolian racially.

That couldnt be you right?
Right?

>>17864925
>except for the one I posted which you literally quoted in your reply.
the one you posted was debunked in the previous thread, it never says that rs12821256 is the main contributor to blonde hair, only that it contributes
>A non-coding SNP (rs12821256) located in a large intergenic region over 350 kb upstream of the KITLG transcription start site is significantly associated with blond hair color in Iceland and the Netherlands2 (Fig. 1a). This SNP shows relatively large odds ratios of 1.9 – 2.4 per risk allele for blond vs. brown hair in northern Europeans (multiplicative model2). Together with other genes, rs12821256 helps explain 3 to 6% of variance in categorical hair color scores
it clearly says that it only explains 3 to 6% of blonde hair colors in europeans, this is nothing
and you know from where it takes that 1.9 – 2.4 odds ratios of risk allele for blond vs. brown hair for rs12821256? that study from 2007 that posted, this one >>17864623
https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.2007.13
since it's behind paywall you can see it here
https://sci-hub.red/https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.2007.13
that literally has irrelevant snps like rs1667394 having more odd ratios
you lost the argument

>You have posted no data, no study, and continue to make unfounded claims.
>I did. The study I posted shows this particular Allele matches perfectly with frequency of blondism in a population.
it doesn't, 10% frequency in estonians is nothing, estonians are brown like georgians, half of estonians are blonde, that must be why that same study claims that rs12821256 only explains 3-6% of blonde hair in europeans
you are a literal liar, i posted 2 studies here >>17864752 and here >>17864662
>Iranian HG isnt synonymous with Modern Iranians.
yes they were browner
> CHG form their own distinct cluster, they are not within any modern cluster.
a cluster closest to brown people like iranians and pashtuns and balochis

>carleton coon
pseud stuff from 100 years ago, discarded

>>17864929
>You legitimately are unhinged outright denying studies and raising objections to phantom arguments no one made.
i'm not denying any study, you posted only this study https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4704868/ that never claims rs12821256 is the main contributor of blonde hair in europeans, the opposite, it claims that it only explains 3 to 6% of blonde hair colors in europeans
notice how you didn't post a single quote about that study? because nothing supports your claim

>your term "hairs" reminds me of a shitalian poster who was here years ago who used to hate ANE because it was his rapedaddy, being R1b and completely Anatolian racially.
shitalians are your brown shitskinned cousins, you however are definitely georgian

>ANE created blondism.
ane was not blonde and is not responsible for blondism in europeans

you are literally a low iq unhinged schizo unable to understand simple studies

>>17864936
*estonians arent brown like georgians

>>17864776
>Both Kotias and Satsurblia CHGs [15] were predicted by Hirisplex to have brown eyes (>0.96) and a dark hair shade (>0.92). Looking at skin-pigmentation sites, both individuals carried the dark-skin allele at rs16891982 and the light-pigmentation allele at rs1426654
was chg a proto pajeet?

>>17864993
They were definitely not white

>>17864993
>was chg a proto pajeet?
a proto irano-churka

>>17864993
a brownoid chimp like the anf that could not compete with the white nordic shg, responsible for the phenotype of modern northern europeans

>>17864490
gotland, lmao

>>17864378 (OP)

>>17864662
You're a Brown shItalian liar: https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17477969/#q17482895
>>17864845
We're EHGjeets know.

>>17865100
i'm not an anfchimp italian, and don't forget not to argue with me, i have no time for your memes

>>17864378 (OP)
pic rel: their protonordic fathers

>>17864929
Yes, that's him. The shItaliar liar.

Why do brown churkas self insert as Steppe when Steppe has barely any Churka Y dna? Aren't you embarassed to claim them? It is like a white man claiming EEF in Berbers

>>17865181
not really, schizo spamming random int comments, italians are the most worthless brown anf chimps j2trannies ever created
i told you already don't talk to me or about me, you obsessed mutilated chimp, i have no time to waste arguing over your useless barely readable collections of random pictures, get it? get off my HG cock, ape

>>17865204
>It's afraid

>>17865206
i know you wasted weeks putting together those shitty worthless collages you spam here so you need someone who gives them value by arguing about them.
unfortunately for you that man isn't me, don't talk to me or about me ever again

>>17865211
>i told you already don't talk to me or about me
>don't talk to me or about me ever again
He sounds like a mafioso.

>>17865114
>The man was about 50 years old, and had a very massive, masculine and broad facial skeleton.
>The woman, about 20 years old, carries a lot of features that would pass for typically male: a well developed glabella (the area above the nasal root) and distinct muscle attachments.
they were turbomasculine

>>17865229
Yes, this is why they always won, all the northern eef males carried shg I2 and I1, they completely dominated anfchimps

>>17864401
>this is the whitest individual he's ever predicted if i'm not wrong, in general all the blondes he predicts turn out "dark blonde" while she's turned out to be medium blonde, and her eyes have such high probability of being blue that he bothered to specify "very blue"
yes he's retarded, literally 100% of his predicted blonds are dark blonds

>shItalian liar's self-replying episode
He clearly has some kind of mental illness

>>17864408
looks like a roman emperor

>>17864473
i1+i2 combined surpass r1 in scandinavia

>>17864599
>>17864537
>Everyone I don't like is a jooo

>>17865251
most blond people in real life are dark blond

>>17864385
PWC were 95 to 100 percent hunter gatherer

>>17865254
anti white posters are always mentally ill by definition

>>17865264
Funnelbeakers were 30-40% whg?

>>17865267
Yes, northern European eefs were very whg admixed

>>17865267
Yes and this is why they had light features

The Dalits of Europe.

>>17864525
>These hg share negligible ancestry with modern Europeans, they passed down almost no genes to modern Europeans and they were a completely difference race from you, as distant as Chinese are, they only converged on a few modern European coloring traits by pure chance, they were basically 80 iq aborigines and would have been nothing like you. Only a cultureless rootless American would fixate on color genes as the basis of their entire heritage and self-identity.
they're much closer than the chinese

>>17864936
>>17864941
>allele for blondism doesnt create blondes
>estonians are brown
You are beyond help or youre trollin, 10/10 I replied multiple times in multiple threads.

>>17865534
>allele for blondism doesnt create blondes
are you actually stupid? no i'm genuinely asking, it's like i have to re explain everything every comment
rs12821256 increases the chances of blonde hair but not by much and many snps have a higher chance of causing blondism
the study that you linked mentions that rs12821256 has 1.9 – 2.4 odds ratios of risk allele for blond vs. brown hair and it bases that claim off this study >>17864623 that literally show many snps like rs1667394 increasing the odd ratio even more
rs12821256 is only one of many snps that cause blondism and not even remotely the most important


>estonians are brown
see here >>17864945
estonians aren't brown like georgians, it's called a type

What are you trying here, shItalian liar? You're Browner than Arabis.

What made shItalians short, Brown and weak?

Yamnaya are the origin of European supermodels. But who designed pizzacels?

>>17864378 (OP)
Ah yes, 4chan, the place to discuss genetics.

>>17865580
just an eternal shitfight between /pol/ shills and anti white shills, tiresome

Norman looks like a non-midget (WHG shitskin influence) version of Sulumbek (the real deal Alpinid)

>>17865580
>>17865583
/his/ is for philosophical and metaphysical discussions

>non-midget
*midget
See how that Turkish-looking Arap is taller than him.

>>17864378 (OP)
>>17864401
How do you know the phenotype though? Like did all of these tested samples have intact skulls? Because hallstatt is not a farmer phenotype. From the skulls of the pitted ware culture that I have seen, she should be brunn instead.

>>17864490
HGs were weren't Nordic. They were late cromagnid/brunn types. Might have had dalofaelids among them but that's about it.

>>17865637
>How do you know the phenotype though? Like did all of these tested samples have intact skulls? Because hallstatt is not a farmer phenotype
he does a phenotypes based on snps that he has associated with certain face shapes through testing, but i don't care too much about that, i assume it's not that accurate i only look at the pigmentation

>>17865637
hgs were high T nordics

shItalian shit really can't sleep. He can't accept 50% ANF Gracile Med, Alpinid and Pontid Anglos as the epitome of Whiteness.

I'm more English than anyone here.

>>17865557
>here are those brown churkoids, they are basically african, these are mbuti pygmies of the yamnaya foothills

>>17865557
>admitting the allele causes blondism
Concession accepted. ANE produced blondes.

>>17865729
georgians are brown middle easterners G/J carriers with no european hunter gatherer ancestry and strong west asian drift, you are a brown middle easterner georgian coper, you never even denied it, you're closer to an balochi in pakistan than to someone from northern europe
hope you're done with the "ane wuz the ultimate origin of blonde hair", no study ever says that, they only have 1 of the many genes that can contributes to blonde hair and not even a strong one, at best 3-6% of the blonde hair in europeans can be explained by it
>Together with other genes, rs12821256 helps explain 3 to 6% of variance in categorical hair color scores

also chgs were brown
>Both Kotias and Satsurblia CHGs [15] were predicted by Hirisplex to have brown eyes (>0.96) and a dark hair shade (>0.92). Looking at skin-pigmentation sites, both individuals carried the dark-skin allele at rs16891982 and the light-pigmentation allele at rs1426654
and the first actually blonde haired individual is an early shg
>In this time transect we observe for the first time an individual with inferred blue eyes, blonde hair and light skin, NEO27, a hunter-gatherer from sweden who lived approximately 12,000 years ago

>increases the chance of blonde hair but not by much

>A 2007 study based on the Icelanders and Dutch concluded that individuals with an rs12821256(C) allele were ~2x fold more likely to have blond than brown hair color. The specific odds ratio claimed per (C) allele is 2.32, p = 5.5 x 10-14.[PMID 17952075]
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17952075/

>brown vs blonde
its for ALL hair variation, not "brown vs blonde".
Without ANE admixture blondism in Europeans would drop significantly if not become non-existent.

>>17865732
you are a stupid tranny, genuinely one of the dumbest people i've ever talked to, let's re-explain everything again for the billionth time
rs12821256 is only one of many snps that cause blondism and not even remotely the most important, one of the least important in fact
see here>>17864752 >>17864623
it's surpassed in importance by many other snps, ane was not blond

>ANE produced blondes.
ane didn't produce shit, tranny, rs12821256 can only explain 3 to 6% variation in hair coloration in europeans according to the same study you linked that you didn't bother to read
>Together with other genes, rs12821256 helps explain 3 to 6% of variance in categorical hair color scores

europeans have blond hair largely because of other snps

>>17865729
Yamnaya as fuck.

>>17864413
They have EHG ancestry. All blonde populations do.

>>17864500
Most all I2 clades in Scandinavia is directly from GAC, who were one of the few farmer groups in Europe with a warrior culture stronger than groups like Funnelbeaker or PWC. They had long-standing ancestry to the continent more so than Scandinavia. How R1b-U106 and I1 came to be so prominent in northern Europe so late are some of the only major mysteries left to northern Europe Y-DNA. There are apparently some PWC clades of Q that survived in small number.

>>17865739
>one of the many
many meaning four lol.
>not even a strong one
its one of the defining genes for blondism.
>3-6%
>Together with other genes, rs12821256 helps explain 3 to 6% of variance in categorical hair color scores2, and is now one of several markers used for predictive testing of human hair color19. The blondassociated A to G substitution at this position is prevalent in northern European populations but virtually absent in Africa and Asia2,20,21
>(a) SNPs on human chromosome 12 are associated with blond hair in Europeans (modified from2). The peak association is found at rs12821256 (red), which is 355 kb upstream of the KITLG transcription start site. (b) The frequency distribution of rs12821256 in different populations. The allele associated with blond hair, G (yellow), is most prevalent in northern Europe. (c)
that is ALL hair color variation, not blonde vs brown.
The allele in question is what makes Blonds actually blonde.

>CHGs were brown
as opposed to who?
>SHG
you mean someone with significant ANE?
Why didnt blondism originate in WHGs? Why was it necessarily in ANE admixed populations? Oh right because ANE is the origin of blondism.

>NO STUDY SAYS THAT
i mean imagine the headlines
>study vindicates nazi racial theories of hyperborean aryans

>>17865743
holy shit, you are literally stupid as fuck, genuinely total subhuman trash
>A 2007 study based on the Icelanders and Dutch concluded that individuals with an rs12821256(C) allele were ~2x fold more likely to have blond than brown hair color. The specific odds ratio claimed per (C) allele is 2.32, p = 5.5 x 10-14.[PMID 17952075]
this is the literal study that i linked here >>17864662
>here is the study
>https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.2007.13
>since it's behind paywall you can see it here
>https://sci-hub.red/https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.2007.13
that you called outdated

according to that same study , here this pic from that same study >>17864623 rs1667394 has 4x to 5x more likely to have blond than brown hair color
rs185007 and rs12896399 also have higher chances of causing blondism than rs12821256

>its for ALL hair variation, not "brown vs blonde".
>Without ANE admixture blondism in Europeans would drop significantly if not become non-existent.
literal subhuman garbage, it explains 3-6% of all variation which is fucking nothing

also this other more recent study >>17864752 that does blonde vs black AND brown and the odd ratio are even lower at 1.659
ANE is irrelevant to blonde hairs, not having derived alleles in rs12821256 would make blond hair drop by 3-4% at best

you lost the argument

>>17865748
>rs12821256 can only explain 3 to 6% variation in hair coloration in europeans according to the same study you linked that you didn't bother to read
Thats not what the study says you illiterate moron.
>Europeans have blond hair because of other SNPs
post every single one.

>>17865749
Associating Yamnaya with CHGs is like associating American blacks with Northern English.

>>17865758
>many meaning four lol.
literally all studies manage to find multiple alleles, even irrelevant ones that have higher predicting power in favor of blond hair, may as well call all of them "blond hair genes" >>17864752 >>17864623
>its one of the defining genes for blondism.
it's objectively one of the least defining, when you look at the actual numbers, something you're unable to do
>that is ALL hair color variation, not blonde vs brown.
you're literally grasping at straws you literal mongrel, and no the quote in question literally mentions the the results of the 2007 study that does blonde vs brown, see this pic you dumb as fuck mongrel >>17864936
without that worthless snp europeans would be almost as blond as they are now
>The allele in question is what makes Blonds actually blonde.
nope and nowhere it says that, you are literally as dumb as shit
>as opposed to who?
they were brown shits unlike northern euro hgs, and even the western europe hgs had blue eyes at least unlike the chg that was completely brown
>you mean someone with significant ANE?
more significant whg
>Why didnt blondism originate in WHGs? Why was it necessarily in ANE admixed populations? Oh right because ANE is the origin of blondism.
blondism didn't originate in ANE and there's absolutely not a single study that will claim that, having a minor allele that increases the chances of blond hairs =/= origin of blonde hair
see how you haven't posting a single thing claiming that ane is the origin of blonde hair?

>>17865759
>this is 2x more likely to cause blondism
>except its not
so which is it?
>its 3-6%
of hair variation, not likelihood of causing blondism.
You have a sub 90 IQ.

Its not saying this allele accounts for 3-6% of blondes, but 3-6% of hair color variation, meaning it causes blondism at a significantly higher rate than 3-6% like a 1.5-2x rate.

I too would get mad over being proven wrong.

>>17865762
>Thats not what the study says you illiterate moron.
that's exactly what it says, rs12821256 helps explain 3 to 6% of variance in categorical hair color scores, it's literally irrelevant

>post every single one.
sure, here are some >>17864752 rs121918167, rs121918170, rs74653330, rs1219118166, rs116927526, rs1805006, rs11547464, rs1805007, rs1805008, rs555179612, rs200000734, >>17864623 rs12896399, rs1667394
and likely many others, these are literally irrelevant snps that still manage to surpass rs12821256 in important in regards to blondism

>>17865773
There is not a single WHG with blondism, it is a phenomena exclusive to ANE admixed populations.
That is a fact.
You cant read studies, you are ESL, you are brown.

>unlike Northern Euro HGs
>The ancient individual from Satsurblia was male with black hair and brown eyes; however, the individual is one of the earliest found to carry the derived HERC2 allele for blue eyes. The Satsurblia individual also likely had light skin, as he was found to carry the derived SLC24A5 allele for light skin. The Satsurblia individual was also lactose intolerant and did not carry the derived EDAR allele commonly found in East Asians and Native Americans.[8][9]
CHGs predate North Euro localized HG and were much lighter than the predecessors to North Euro HGs (WHG).
No but please, continue replying to yourself arguing with phantom posts no one made.

>>17865784
>sure, here are some >>17864752 rs121918167, rs121918170, rs74653330, rs1219118166, rs116927526, rs1805006, rs11547464, rs1805007, rs1805008, rs555179612, rs200000734, >>17864623 rs12896399, rs1667394
>and likely many others, these are literally irrelevant snps that still manage to surpass rs12821256 in important in regards to blondism
Now show us a WHG with anyone of these genes.

>>17865783
>this is 2x more likely to cause blondism
>except its not
except it is you obnoxious dumb piece of shit, it increases the chances of blonde hair by 2 time which is nothing, rs1667394 from the same study increases the chances of blondism by 5 times, why is this so hard to understand

>of hair variation, not likelihood of causing blondism.
yes of hair variation you dumb mongrel, and 4.5% of the total hair variation is fucking nothing, i understood very well what it says srawmanning fucking faggot
it means that instead of being 60% blond northern europeans would be 55%, the problem is that you brown georgian for some reason think northern europeans are 10% blond

>>17865798
>4.5% of the total hair variation is fucking nothing,
4-5% of hair variation is the variation that explains adult light blondes.
>it means instead of being 60% blonde Northern Europeans would be 55% blonde
You are legitimately struggling.
English is not your first language?
Stop interacting with studies through google translate.
Stop reading English studies.
Go back to English school.
>Northern Europeans are 10% blonde
They are.
Light blonde hair in adults is 5-10% of Northern Europeans, this number is at its zenith in Scandinavia and Iceland.
non-Dark hair isnt "blonde".
Most of what (You) browns call "blonde" is light brown.

>>17865788
>There is not a single WHG with blondism, it is a phenomena exclusive to ANE admixed populations.
no, it is exclusive to european hgs, ane is irrelevant and them having ane ancestry is also completely irrelevant, ane did not carry all the derived snps that make the shgs lighter and the shgs themselves barely carry rs12821256, you literally don't know what the actual fuck are you even talking about, here is the neo27 for example not having that snp at all, almost no shg has it
>You cant read studies, you are ESL, you are brown.
no, you are brown and georgian, you are literal mongrel
>The ancient individual from Satsurblia was male with black hair and brown eyes; however, the individual is one of the earliest found to carry the derived HERC2 allele for blue eyes. The Satsurblia individual also likely had light skin, as he was found to carry the derived SLC24A5 allele for light skin. The Satsurblia individual was also lactose intolerant and did not carry the derived EDAR allele commonly found in East Asians and Native Americans.[8][9]
final predictions with all the snps weighted in: analysis of single snps
overall they were brown
>Both Kotias and Satsurblia CHGs [15] were predicted by Hirisplex to have brown eyes (>0.96) and a dark hair shade (>0.92). Looking at skin-pigmentation sites, both individuals carried the dark-skin allele at rs16891982 and the light-pigmentation allele at rs1426654

>CHGs predate North Euro localized HG and were much lighter than the predecessors to North Euro HGs (WHG).
chgs were as dark as the whgs or darker as i demonstrated above

>>17865763
Appalachia

>>17865828
>it is exclusive to European HGs
ok well post a WHG with any one of these alleles.
>overall they were brown
evidently not
>they were darker
nope. They were lighter than WHGs.

still waiting for you to post a single non-ANE admixed individual with even one allele for blondism.

>>17865807
>4-5% of hair variation is the variation that explains adult light blondes.
no it doesn't, estonians are 56% blond >>17864623

>English is not your first language?
>Stop interacting with studies through google translate.
>Stop reading English studies.
>Go back to English school.
worthless copes, you lost the argument

>Light blonde hair in adults is 5-10% of Northern Europeans, this number is at its zenith in Scandinavia and Iceland.
no one is talking about "light blond hair", but blond hair, icelandics are 65% blond >>17865798
>non-Dark hair isnt "blonde".
>Most of what (You) browns call "blonde" is light brown.
so basically you completely lost the argument and are trying to imply that we were always talking about "light blond hair" when we weren't
you are brown georgian, a coping brown swarthy georgian

shItalian walls of anti-blond ANE texts vs one meme

>>17865837
>evidently not
evidently yes
>Both Kotias and Satsurblia CHGs [15] were predicted by Hirisplex to have brown eyes (>0.96) and a dark hair shade (>0.92). Looking at skin-pigmentation sites, both individuals carried the dark-skin allele at rs16891982 and the light-pigmentation allele at rs1426654
>nope. They were lighter than WHGs.
nope, they were darker

>still waiting for you to post a single non-ANE admixed individual with even one allele for blondism.
posting a western whg with one of those alleles would be completely useless, it wouldn't change the fact that shgs were blond not because of rs12821256, as i demonstrated they literally didn't have it for the most part, but because of alleles that the ane didn't have and couldn't have passed on to them, they simply developed those mutations independently, you are literal 2 year old child that doesn't understand simple concepts
but yes why not, here some whgs from italy, carrying rs12896399

>>17864537
is this a real book?

>>17865841
You are confusing light hair with blonde hair.
>>17865857
There are no blondes without ANE admixture, this is just a fact.
There are zero exceptions to this rule.

>>17865752
>Most all I2 clades in Scandinavia is directly from GAC, who were one of the few farmer groups in Europe with a warrior culture stronger than groups like Funnelbeaker or PWC. They had long-standing ancestry to the continent more so than Scandinavia. How R1b-U106 and I1 came to be so prominent in northern Europe so late are some of the only major mysteries left to northern Europe Y-DNA. There are apparently some PWC clades of Q that survived in small number.
It's a mixture of I2a1a pwc and I2a1b gac in Scandinavia

>>17865880
>>17865843
>>17865837
>>17865829
>>17865807
>>17865798
ANE=Sean Bean Pheno
Simple as

>>17865880
>You are confusing light hair with blonde hair.
you are making up rules that weren't there in the first place since you lost the argument, no one ever talked about "light blond hair", the argument was about all blond hair including dark blond

>There are no blondes without ANE admixture, this is just a fact.
ane was not blonde, ANE admixture is irrelevant because rs12821256 is not that relevant to blond hair, rs12896399 frequently carried by whgs has higher chances of causing blondism than rs12821256 (just like the ane most western whg weren't blond because of lack of other depigmentation genes), this is true for many other snps

there are blonds without rs12821256, in fact most blonds lack this allele

>>17865894
we don't know, we don't have ane skulls

>>17865920
tarim mummies are 80% ANE and look phenotypically like northwest europeans
ANE resembled higher steppe anglos, irish, norwegians, icelandic, etc

>>17865894
What is this? An Uzbek?
>>17865947
Broad faced, broad headed Alpine serf.

>>17865947
it seems that the samples modeled as 80% ane and 20% mongoloid were xiaohe

>>17865969
Heston was 100% nordic

>>17865979
What is this? A Palestinian?

Do you really want to play this game, Alpine Pajeet Kazakh?

>>17865983
>>17866005
Cope

>>17866026
>Le cope
Do you even realize what you're posting, Moshe?

This your 100% Nordic, you animal?

Dravidians should be 100% Nordic too then, chimp.

>>17865661
It's only a phenotype for the nose. There are brunns without button noses.

>>17865668
Nordics are intermediate between late cromagnids and meds.

>>17866041
>>17866085
>>17866097
Cope Schizo hohol
Sean Bean and Heston=ANE gods

>>17866391
No he collected snps for eye area and mouth too, but again who can trust that? You need studies with massive samples sizes

>>17864599
>>17864537
Amerimutt retarded wignat tranny faggot

>>17866085
Some of you people have such trouble with faces it leaves the realm of trolling and enters untreated, debilitating autism.

>>17866871
>R1a tranny
>people
Pick one (1)

ANE gods

>>17867287
we know what ANE looked like and they didnt look like that.

>>17867287
Brownoid injusto latinx detected. Why the hell would a white guy upload interracial porn?

>Dioses del ANE
Proud to be of the same people constructed the biggests building in all history, the pyramid of Keops and the pyramid of Cholula.
I guess we ANE are superior

>>17867462
>>17867287
Saaar

I don't believe ane hunted mammoths, it sounds fake as fuck, in my opinion ane hunted squirrels and elks

>>17867444
New LARP just dropped

>>17867573
Everyone in Eurasia and Africa hunted mammoth. African spear chuckers hunt elephants. I'm not sure why you would single ANE out.

>>17866582
Only the nose shape genotype was listed in the picture. Where is the information on the cranial measurements?

>>17868508
back when he didn't create his tools he found snps correlated with some cranial features, namely mouth and eye area, i think those are included in his tools