>transfers american technology and american jobs to an authoritarian shithole that hates america and had fought a war with america in recent memory
Was he actually literally non-biblically scientifically publicly, really, this retarded?
He didn't hand the Chinese weapons but he handed them weapon factories. What was his gameplan? Was this an example of shortsighted public policy?

Americans supported the chinese to not support the russians. Basically we live in a timeline where china instead a of russia became the industrial powerhouse of the east. It's actually probably a giant US operation when you think about it.

WW3 was supposed to be against russia which took over europe but the US starved them.

>>17864532
Why didn't the U.S transfer their industries to India instead?

>>17864515 (OP)
He was a spiteful narcissist desperate for validation. It’s been a while since I’ve read up on carter but I’m pretty sure even his own party fucking hated him.

>>17864544
Because they also wanted to deescalate tensions with the communists

>>17864544
India was more closely aligned with the Soviets than China was after the Bangladesh mess

>>17864515 (OP)
China doesn't actualy hate the US anon, that's an invention by neocon boomer war hawks. Xi Xinpings own daughter actually attended Harvard for example and nobody made a fuss about it
Also, there are many things wrong with being a manufacturing economy and China is kind of proof of this, relative to their population their economic output is actually quite poor. The reason China is a good country to outsource labor to is because of favorable exchange rates between the Yuan and the USD/Euro, and this is a reflection of the difference in standard of living (China has the HDI of Mexico and a per capita GDP that's less than the global average)
If the west ever wanted to compete with China, they'd have to agressively devalue their currency and lower their working wages in order to reduce the cost of their product on a global market. It's maddening trying to explain this to people.

>>17864647
I don't even understand the china warhawks. There isn't any hatchet to bury between the US and China. Its been nothing but good trade between the two countries.
Its crazy how Washington keeps on pushing on china's only redline in Taiwan despite recognizing the one china policy. Thucydides Trap maybe?

>>17864647
>>17865050
>prease ignore China’s vast spying networks, constant threats against Taiwan, stearing interrectuar property, manufacturing bio weapons, and all around sabotage and subterfuge
>Ching Chong ping pong

>>17865050
It's just the Anglo-American psychological entitlement to hegemony, based on two centuries of global Anglo hegemony, and the radical expansionist, uncompromising ideology of post-Holocaust liberalism that can brook no rivals.

>>17864647
Was covid an invention of the neocons?

>>17865068
Russia and China are like experiments by the US government. We even grafted a country onto the side of china to see what would happen

>>17864515 (OP)
The Sino-Soviet split took place after the Korean war, the failure of the cultural revolution also changed China, even before Mao had passed, his authority was passing to retainers as old age took its toll. The China of the 1970s was very different from the China of the early 1950s.

China was also very poor and at the time it was assumed economic liberalization, rising wealth, the development of an educated middle class and democracy went hand in hand, due to the success of the asian tigers and their transition to democracy. They could not predict the CCP would be capable of maintaining a single party state as China's economy developed.

>>17865050
The US regime just knows that talks of a "multipolar world" is a sham, if US does not get to be the sole superpower then the US will inevitably be the bitch of the new superpower.

>>17864647
True Chinese don't actually hate the west if anything they actually practically worship the west but and wants to mimic western modernity in everything they do
But the real problem is they see Asia as their own turf / sphere of influence and refuse west to control or dictate it. Imperial Japan until 1945 acted this way too

>>17865050
For the west Taiwan is chip manufacture place and supposed ally in 'democracy' in asia
For China Taiwan is a brother nation divided in an unfinished civil war that ultimately must be united again

>>17864515 (OP)
OP is buried with this post
>>17864647
I just want to add, the narrative itself is delusional, "China took jobz!!1" is complete nonsense
(Manufacturing jobs as a percentage of total US employment, btw, is at the same level now as it was in 1924, who was your scapegoat in 1924 OP? Germany? XD)
China did not 'take' US jobs, CEOs saw the writing on the wall in the 80s but it really ramped up in the 90s, they automated what they could with machines, they moved a lot of jobs out of the declining 'Rust Belt' states to the booming 'Sun Belt' states and really really really shitty, low wage production that couldnt be near-sourced to Mexico, did go to East Asia and SE Asia
The fact of the matter is, this poster hits the nail on the head
>>17864647
>they'd have to agressively devalue their currency and lower their working wages
When you really think through the WE NEED TA GET DA JOBS FRUM CHINA people's arguments to their logical conclusion, what they are advocating for is for the govt of the United States to flip a switch and throw Americans' standards of living back 50 years to when we were, and the world at large was, much, much poorer

whites and jews believe the world is a fixed racial hierarchy and that they are a master race and everyone a slave race

obviously this is a laughable concept and this delusion leads to situations like this

This thread really got the 50 cent army riled lmao

>>17865090
I am not Chinese infact my country has territorial dispute with China but compared to whatever evil Americans have been doing in the last 50 years or even these last 6 months alone Chinese has acted like saint
My fear is the moment west is finished with middle east and finally do the 'pivot to Asia' they will truly turn Asia into a warzone

>>17865065
Literally what israel and Mossad do on a daily basis. Double standards?

>>17865065
>When we do it
>GOOD
>When they do it
>BAD

lol you're such a jewrat

>>17864544
Come on man. Then shit would be much worse than it is now.

>>17865050
Its racial. Occams Razor. Not that I blame them. Mixing Asians and whites create Elliot Rogers.

>>17865068
Entitlement according to whom?

>>17865074
The crackdown in Tiananmen in '89, was basically a push for economic reform while maintaining political power.
Deng actually gave a speech after the incident justifying his approach to economic liberalization/crackdown and Jiang followed through with Deng's reforms.
Which also led to china being one of most polluted countries at the time along with the rise of the largest population of middle class people.

>>17865084
There's a difference though. Jews aren't taught to hate themselves for their race. In fact they're taught they're very special from an early age which breeds narcissism.

>>17864515 (OP)
More trade means less war. Also, tech companies willingly gave them tech transfers in return for cheap labor.
Do you think post-Mao china had the military clout to force american companies to give all their tech or die?
It was win-win for both countries. If it wasn't win-win, the tech transfers and cheap labor exchange would never have happened.

>>17864560
US getting involved and sending guns to Pakistan so they can massacre bengalis for no reason was a pretty puzzling move

>>17865078
>But the real problem is they see Asia as their own turf / sphere of influence and refuse west to control or dictate it
this is problem because all of China's neighbors would just as soon see them nuked off map than let China control region. their only allies are Pakistan and Cambodia (those two just want China's money)

>>17865081
Formosa was never part of China. The Formosan people not Chinese. Chinese immigrants took over half the island. The US created the Taiwan issue with its support of Chiang Kai-shek. After he had his ass whipped during the Chinese civil war and fled to Taiwan he pronounced his government the legitimate government in exile of China and the US supported this.

>>17865616
China with its money (loans, junta support, infrastructure projects, large scale Chinese businesses that force local business out) control all of Laos, Cambodia, Burma and Thailand. The two countries that continue to push back is the Philippines and Vietnam

>>17864647
Imagine being the white guy who deflowers Xi's daughter

>>17865083
>When you really think through the WE NEED TA GET DA JOBS FRUM CHINA people's arguments to their logical conclusion, what they are advocating for is for the govt of the United States to flip a switch and throw Americans' standards of living back 50 years
correct
>when we were, much, much poorer
false
>and the world at large
irrelevant

>>17865078
One thing that struck me about watching CCP propaganda and some pro-statist Chinese stuff is how much they mimic American things. This doesn't extend to copying the political system, which is important, but they've been open to experimenting with all kinds of things. Like seeing a propaganda video about students hitting the books, and also perusing the college bookstore, and there are Xi Jinping books displayed prominently but also American-style varsity jackets. That is copied directly from American college campuses.

There's a scene in the cartoon Year Hare Affair (which is very nationalist) and some of the Chinese rabbits are visiting New York, and are marveling at it, and one of the rabbits comes across a magazine stand, and is like "oooh Western stufff..." and is tempted by Playboy, but has to resist his temptation, and buys a copy of a science and technology magazine instead. The closing message while looking out over the NYC skyline is that Americans made this stuff because they worked hard and relied on their own efforts:
https://youtu.be/FZqrYY6ADR8

>>17865131
That's true. Their arrogance is their major flaw. Christians are taught to feel sorry for being born. Jews are not. They have a kind of "tough love" culture, and violently interrupt each other all the time. There's a more telling-it-like-it-is attitude. Very direct. They also like to dance:
https://youtu.be/cjL0VI2UmMY

There's a Jewish comedian who had a bit about performing for old Jews at retirement homes in Florida and how they'd always shamble up to her after the show to say what they thought, and it always started out nice and then turned nasty. Like "I thought you were really funny... but nobody around me laughed once!" Or "up close you're really pretty, but up on stage you look like an animal!" If Christians came up after the show, it was rare, and it was always "I'm so sorry for bothering you... but I thought you were really funny."

>>17865616
All of east Asia is traditional Chinese sphere of influence and I don't only mean politically but also racially and culturally. Today most of Asia has aligned economically with China at this point
>>17865639
It's really only Philippines and Japan that are really going all out against China, others are either doing it half assedly or are still cooperating behind back, you have to understand that there's alot of face saving gesture that don't make sense from western pov
>>17866144
because people still see modernization and westernization as same thing, so to be modern and hip is to follow latest American thing, though this way of thinking is not as prevalent today as it was before

>>17865109
Anon, I’m not sure if you’re aware but I can hate Israel and China at the same time

>>17864544
>transfer all industrial power to India
>modern civilization collapses almost immediately
Nice. Brilliant even. Why didn't uncle Ted just push for this by getting into lobbying instead of his dastardly plan?

>>17866227
You can avoid buying chinese crap but your tax money always goes to nuclear terrorist state israel.
The american warhawking on china is ridiculous especially considering the many CIA and wars in Asia started by the state department to "contain communism".
I won't pretend the PRC are a group of misunderstood angels, but the US government isn't a beacon of democracy or protector of Asia like they think themselves to be. The hypocrisy from pro china warhawks is galling.

>>17865162
Banglas need to be slapped around a little saaar

>>17865988
Are you retarded?

>>17866218
+15 social media credits have been added to your account, Xiang. Have a nice day. (^:

>>17865083
50 years ago was during the Cold War when half the planet was locked under dictatorships of various flavors.

>>17866392
Ahem June 4, 1989 Dalai Lama Falun Gong democracy human rights laogai Tank Man Winnie The Pooh blah blah blah.

>>17864515 (OP)
>muhahaha, yes, blame the wet blanket Southerner!
>totally was his fault and not mine
>now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to go kick puppies and call black people monkeys

>>17865065
Every country on the planet does this to one another.

>>17864515 (OP)
Amerisisses are begging to be conquered. AIPAC is giving them what they want.