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Anonymous No.17866020 >>17866025 >>17866079 >>17866693 >>17866702 >>17866732 >>17866793 >>17867196 >>17867272 >>17867886 >>17867892 >>17867989 >>17868033 >>17868099 >>17869478 >>17870396 >>17871927 >>17873317
Why were the Gypsies subjected to such harsh and hostile treatment in the past? What caused this?
Anonymous No.17866025
>>17866020 (OP)
Skin color
Anonymous No.17866079 >>17866091 >>17867948
>>17866020 (OP)
The truest redpill isn’t that ‘hatred’ of a race or community 90% of the time stems from the behaviour of that community. Leftist historians try to make it out that people were hated and treated like shit for absolutely no reason or because they were different, when in actuality it is because of their behaviour, as we can see nowadays
Anonymous No.17866091 >>17866702 >>17867832 >>17870376
>>17866079
Its not that simple retarded faggot, there is what you said but also a lot of times, people need scapegoats
Anonymous No.17866693
>>17866020 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-soGcjbBTW4

I love gypsy women
Anonymous No.17866702 >>17866714
>>17866020 (OP)
>>17866091
Certainly can't be their own actions... goy vey what an asinine implication!
Anonymous No.17866714 >>17866717
>>17866702
What actions?
Anonymous No.17866717
>>17866714
In the case of gypsies:
Stealing, from little wares and animals to kids.
Living by scamming people with their sorcery shows and circus.
Banditry and violent crimes (often to rob travellers).
Refusal to integrate into society, always living for the hustle instead of working.
Anonymous No.17866732
>>17866020 (OP)
Should’ve started calling themselves Jews to trick Christians into thinking they’re God’s chosen people who are to be revered and worshipped but Khazars beat them to the punch.
Anonymous No.17866793
>>17866020 (OP)
I recommend watching an HBO documentary called "Paradise hotel". It's an hour but you'll get it in about 15 mins
Anonymous No.17867196
>>17866020 (OP)
SAAR
Anonymous No.17867272
>>17866020 (OP)
The thieving, the kidnapping and crippling children, the curses.
Anonymous No.17867832
>>17866091
Scapegoat usually when the community is blamed for actions of an individual or group
Anonymous No.17867886
>>17866020 (OP)
Imagine a buncha motherfuckers who're constantly mad that there are laws.

Now imagine them being poor, non-citizens and black.
Anonymous No.17867892
>>17866020 (OP)
Criminal behaviour.
Anonymous No.17867905
Gypsies ate what happens when white-adjacent peoples adopt Indian ethics
Anonymous No.17867948 >>17868026
>>17866079
No, here is the real redpill: the groups people think were treaded badly throughout their history actually weren't persecuted that heavily and were mostly tolerated, as evidenced by the fact that they have been around until this day.

But do you know any Cathars, or Valdensians, or European Pagans? No, because those are the kind of groups Christian Europe had no mercy against whatsovever. Sure, there was the occasional pogrom against Jews but most of the time they were left alone, whereas those deemed heretical were basically killed on sight and ereased to the last man.

It's all survivors' bias.
Anonymous No.17867989
>>17866020 (OP)
>Look at 300 years old records about the gypsies
>Even then they were known for being freeloaders and thieves
Anonymous No.17868026
>>17867948

>But do you know any Cathars,

Cathars weren't any ethnic group. They were a religious group.
Their beliefs exists via the protestant movement and to the radical protestant that went into Northern America and Australasia.

They weren't an ethnic group nor polity.

>or Valdensians

Same as Cathars.

>or European Pagans?

“Pagan”, as you already know, means anything related to the rural or and provincial.
“Paganism” were rural practices – now, to say “idiosyncrasies” – that were odd, out of practice, and some downright against monotheism (meaning, they were polytheist, or henotheist, or animist, or animatist, or some other default crazyness). They were forced out of practice to not create enmity between locals and locales as much as possible. Saving them from themselves and/or others, and viceversa – proto-nation building, if you will.
Turns out, you don't keep & maintain street cred preaching the *universal* gospel, if you let a bunch killing an ovine once every red moon because the sky and/or Sun is testing their faith because, then, those listening to you start asking stupid questions “Why us and not them, too?”

>No, because those are the kind of groups Christian Europe had no mercy against whatsovever.

Monotheism › Polytheism
One torsed fist crushes five singular drifting fingers with their open palm.

>Sure, there was the occasional pogrom against Jews but most of the time they were left alone, whereas those deemed heretical were basically killed on sight and ereased to the last man.

And women, too; that was the purpose of the Mallus Malificarum written by Swiss theologians.

>It's all survivors' bias.

Just say you hate Jews without hiding behind the skirts, feathers, & infant skulls of polytheist mumbo-jumbo.
Anonymous No.17868033
>>17866020 (OP)
Products of caste society and unrehulated capital driven economics. You won't find nations like this among east asians
You can find roma ancestors in north India and around Bengal. They're also known as the Rohingiya and nobody likes them for reasons youd expect.
There is no cure for nations like this.
Anonymous No.17868099
>>17866020 (OP)
Anonymous No.17869422
Their slight inferiority
Anonymous No.17869478
>>17866020 (OP)
>Why were the Gypsies subjected to such harsh and hostile treatment in the past?

Because they deserved it and deserve even worse now.
Anonymous No.17870376
>>17866091
Found the nigger. Its becoming more prevalent these days on here.
Anonymous No.17870383 >>17870391 >>17873392
I can understand Jews surviving as they're an intelligent people who have their own useful niche. Like, a feudal lord would gain a lot of power by having jews he could rely on for commerce and to leverage against the other subordinate estates in his land. That's typically how jews survived, by attaching themselves like a barnacle to a corrupt authority and acting in their interest.

But what the fuck could the gypsies do that the average european peasant couldn't? I just don't understand why the authorities would even give the Gypsies the time of day instead of killing them.
Anonymous No.17870391
>>17870383
Back in the day, they were really really good at repairing cart wheels. It's fucking hard to make wheels. Also, like 80% of Gyspsies were enslaved and worked the land as slave-peasants in Romania
Anonymous No.17870396
>>17866020 (OP)
>Why were the Gypsies subjected to such harsh and hostile treatment in the past? What caused this?

Nothing I could say to you could convince you more than if you simply had to live near gypsies.
Normally racism is "bad", que burger king kid's club speech about tolerance, acceptance, diversity, etc.. Gypsies are the exception that make the rule. Everything bad thing you've heard about gypsies is true and anybody who says otherwise hasn't been exposed to them.
Anonymous No.17871927
>>17866020 (OP)

They visibly look different and have gained a historical reputation for criminality, prostitution, and hostility to outsiders. The fact that they’re largely illiterate on a continent with a 99% literacy rate certainly hasn’t helped.
Anonymous No.17873317
>>17866020 (OP)
What harsh and hostile treatment, and when exactly? It seems like people in this thread have no idea about them and just repeat /pol/ tropes. They were a nomadic itinerant people, therefore they were naturally outsiders and outlaws. Despite that they were generally tolerated, not much could be done about them anyway. Later they were sometimes forcibly settled, and didn't fully integrate, but I don't think there was any significant harsh and hostile treatment then.
Anonymous No.17873321 >>17873350
How did they even get to Europe?
Golden Horde slaves?
Anonymous No.17873350
>>17873321
By an act of un-American Activity.

They walked.
Anonymous No.17873392
>>17870383
Nothing, actually. Every small thing they could bring onto the table, was heavily overshadowed by all the bad things they did.

A clash between christian piety, and secular pragmatism is what allowed them to live for this long: For every man that wanted them gone, there was two or three more who saw them as brothers in Christ who didn't deserve to be exterminated to the last child. And of course, not every ruler is Vlad the Impaler, who massacred a whole clan because of them doing gypsy things in his territory.

In Spain, the marquis of Ensenada tried to kill all of them, but between the spaniards of the time hiding gypsies from the authorities (quite the pious people), and the horrible nightmares king Ferdinand VI had, which he himself attributed to God, he was forced to stop the persecutions. Gypsies in Spain spit on his image every few months for this, or at least the very few ones who managed to reach that level of scholarship to know about him