Japan fought to liberate Asia from oppressive western colonialism and evil bolshevik communism.
The Pacific conflict (1941-1945) was started by the US, not Japan. Prior to the war FDR imposed aggressive policies against Japan such as the oil embargo, freezing of Japanese assets, ABCD encirclement, flying tigers, JB355 and the Hull note ultimatum, which forced Japan into war.
The narrative that Japan was the “aggressor” is Allied propaganda

>>17866378 (OP)
Even leftists disagree with this and they’re the ones who hate “white imperialism”

>>17866383
I’m not a leftist, nor do I hate “white imperialism.” In fact, the British and Japanese Empires were allies before the war (Anglo-Japanese Alliance). I’m simply stating the historical reality

>>17866378 (OP)
Japan could have simply ask Chiang for cooperation and peacefully fund anti-colonialism across the region but instead they decided to kill millions and destroyed half of Asia for nothing like a bunch of autistic psychos

>>17866378 (OP)
What kind of mental gymnastic is required to think of a country as the aggressor, for demanding that another country stops attacking another country?

>>17866398
The historical reality is that Japs larped as westerners for nearly 90 years and raped china and korea and SEA

The Pacific Conflict was started by Japan bombing the shit out of Pearl Harbor. This is basic knowledge

Do you believe in yourself?

>>17867349
> like a bunch of autistic psychos
To be fair they have tough competition in that regard.
And also chinks would cheat, rob and murder you out of a good deal, rape of nanjing 1927 for example

>>17867411
Because it isn't it's business. It likely(itc(in this case) yes) has an ulterior motive(make commies win the civil war(state dept), destroy rivals (army/navy) infinite psuedofascism(FDR) and captive markets(wall street*))

>>17866378 (OP)
holy shit we have an asian version of the nazbol gut

>>17866378 (OP)
Why did Japan NEED to invade China?
Or Korea for that matter?

>>17866383
>>17867411
>>17868002
Do tankie believe this?

>>17866383
>Even leftists disagree with this
No shit, Japan was a right-wing dictatorship

>>17868148
>right-wing
To simplify asian politics as western direction-brained retardation is a sign of low iq

>>17866378 (OP)
True

>>17868155
If unashamed militarism, all-encompassing hierarchy, an Imperial cult, traditional gender roles, an economy modelled around national interests with limited but not non-existing room for free enterprise doesn't sound right-wing enough to you, simply because the term comes from France, maybe you're hipstering a bit

>>17866378 (OP)
>autistic friendless loser closely identifies with a nation that was autistic, had no allies, and lost

Japan didn't have a right to purchase American oil

>>17868167
>An economy modelled around national interests
This is left wing, national socialism is still socialism, yiu have ti be able to secede at will for it to be truly right wing, thus a right wing national economy is an oxymoron. This why nazis were natioal socialists, not national conservatives.
>Unashamed militarism
Not exactly right wing, prussian style militarism is inherently progressive system for the model absolutist state in favor of the reformation, it isn't rw or the same reason the modern education system isn't
>Imperial cult
Correct on the japanese case, the nip imperial cult is actually the cult of their sun god as they see their emperor essentially as a pharaoh
britain also had an imperial cult, however it was based on "civilizing" the turd world and how great the "empire" was, lacking a true prophet or religiousity

>>17867492
Isn’t strange?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_Ishiwara

>>17868183
Yes they do, Japan is anti-communist

>>17868155
That a zoomer you talking, don’t take him seriously.

>>17868148
Pls kill yourself amerimutt retarded cuck
>>17868155
This
>>17868167
Right vs Left is a false dichotomy for dumb amerimutt cattle like you

>>17867349
>Japan could have simply ask Chiang for cooperation and peacefully fund anti-colonialism across the region
Chiang was a murderous dictator and was anti-Japanese
>instead they decided to kill millions and destroyed half of Asia for nothing
This is disingenuous. People die in war, blaming it all on Japan is inaccurate. Also it wasn’t for nothing as South East Asia is now free because of Japan

>>17867411
The US forced Japan into the Pacific War, a conflict that took place due to the aggression of the FDR administration. Therefore the US was the aggressor. The war between Japan and the Chiang Kai Shek regime wasn’t the concern of the US

>>17867459
>Japs larped as westerners for nearly 90 years
They adopted modern technology and customs from the west whilst maintaining their cultural identity
>raped china and korea and SEA
Anti-Japanese propaganda

>>17867492
Pearl Harbor happened because of the oil embargo, freezing of Japanese assets, ABCD encirclement, flying tigers, JB355 and the Hull note ultimatum. The Flying tigers, US military pilots, were shooting down Japanese military aircraft months before Pearl Harbor. It was the US that was launching surprise attacks, not Japan

>>17867641
Of course. Do you believe in yourself?

>>17868002
Nazbol is retarded

>>17868029
>Why did Japan NEED to invade China?
Marco Polo Bridge Incident, Tongzhou massacre, battle of Shanghai
>Or Korea for that matter?
Korea was legally annexed following the Russo-Japanese War. Koreans supported this

>>17868148
Japan was right-wing, but it wasn’t a dictatorship. It was a one party state from 1940-1945

>>17868167
>unashamed militarism, all-encompassing hierarchy, an Imperial cult, traditional gender roles, an economy modelled around national interests with limited but not non-existing room for free enterprise
Based btw

>>17868183
>>autistic friendless loser
Ad hominem isn’t an argument
>Japan didn't have a right to purchase American oil
I never claimed they did. However the US cut off the necessary resources Japan’s industrial economy relied upon. That’s an act of economic warfare and Americans shouldn’t be surprised that Pearl Harbor happened as a result

>>17868368
Kanji Ishiwara is responsible for the Mukden Incident. That has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor which happened a decade later

>>17868368
He was openly against the Pearl Harbor attacks.

>>17868509
See>>17868603

>>17866378 (OP)
That was the propaganda they used but the truth is they just wanted a colonial empire of their own

>>17868703
They had a colonial Empire already. The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was meant to be a coalition of independent, nationalist Asian countries that would co-operate with each other for mutual benefit

>>17868691
I know he was against Pearl Harbor. He was also opposed to invading China

>>17868709
So what if Soviet Union or Vichy France joined Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere?

>>17868506
>However the US cut off the necessary resources Japan’s industrial economy relied upon.

That sounds like a "them" problem

>Americans shouldn’t be surprised that Pearl Harbor happened as a result

And Japan shouldn't have been surprised that Operation Meetinghouse was the result of Japan's cowardly surprise attack.

>but the message was delayed!

Just like when they launched a surprise attack to open their war against Russia?

>>17868709
>a coalition of independent, nationalist Asian countries that would co-operate with each other for mutual benefit
*for Japan's benefit

>>17866378 (OP)
"juhpahn can du nuttin rong"

>>17868492
>>Why did Japan NEED to invade China?
>list of incidents that happened as a result of Japan already being in China

>>17867996
>>17868467
>It's none of their business if Japan slaughters China.
It is their business. Who says it cannot be?

Again, how the fuck are you going to spin, to an average logical and rational person, that Country A is the aggressor for telling country B to stop attacking country C.
Especially when country B has literally no limitations.

>>17868929
this
if you invade a settlement, regardless of intentions, don't immediately expect friendly relations with the people already in there

>>17868929
Forgot civil war?

>>17868970
What about it.

>>17868408
>Right vs Left is a false dichotomy for dumb amerimutt cattle like you
I just said it was invented in France, can you read? And yes, it's still used there

>>17868237
Right-wing doesn't mean anarcho-capitalism

>>17868944
Because it's not attacking country A or anyone it has an alliance treaty with
Embargo and exclude Country B? Sure
But not directly attack them, this is why U.S.A. didn't attack Japan in 1931, they did have the justification for war when the japs sank a US boat but it was resolved diplomatically.
As much as i despise the state dept for their communist cock suckery and corruption, they did their job well until the war desu

>>17869061
What is then? That's the most right wing ideology i can think of

>>17868944
>it is... because it is and i said so!

>>17866378 (OP)
>oppressive western colonialism
Why didn't Imperial Japan didn't do anything about it until 1941?
>bolshevik communism
Barring the fact that they were really bad at stopping it, one of their big geopolitical hopes was that Nationalist China would see that they hated communism just as much. Of course, this was untenable when China wouldn't accede to every single Japanese demand.

>ABCD encirclement
>oil embargo, freezing of Japanese assets
Both of these happened in 1940 and 1941 respectively. Well after Japan had joined the Tripartite Pact, the Panay Incident, and the IJA moving its troops into Indochina. Like with Germany, Japan was given plenty of leeway for years out of fear of upsetting the interwar status quo. To say nothing of its conduct during the war in China.

>JB355
Did Japanese leadership know about this when they planned Pearl Harbor? Was this plan ever put into motion by FDR?

>flying tigers
This is an especially stupid post-hoc justification. At the start of the Second Sino-Japanese War, Germany was training Chinese divisions and giving them Panzers. Japan awkwardly ignored this. After Germany aligned itself with Japan, the USSR filled that vacuum. Not only sending a volunteer air corps with fighter planes, but fighting border skirmishes in Manchukuo and Korea. How did Japan respond to these provocations? With a neutrality pact.

>the Hull note
Treating this like a declaration of war requires complete ignorance of every preceding negotiation that happened in 1941. Including where Japanese leadership tried to avoid war, and failed due to their sheer incompetence.

Do you actually care about the history of this time and place? Or do you just feel obliged to hold these stupid opinions because you like anime so much?

>>17866378 (OP)
i'm not even gonna read this, kill yourself

Weeaboo is idolatry and tranime turns you queer

>>17869582
>tranime turns you queer
other way around. no heterosexual man would ever find any appeal in anime. you were queer to begin with.

>>17866378 (OP)
The Meiji Restoration and its consequences have been a disaster for the Japanese race

>>17866378 (OP)
They were against communism so much. Then why did they sign the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact if they opposed communism so much? You're basically repackaging wehraboo talking points but with japan instead.