Thread 17867455

It's been 2,000 years. What's their excuse?

Just two more weeks.

The whole world hasn't been evangelized yet.

It'll happen when you least expect it

It happened in 2012.

>>17867455 (OP)
It already happened centuries ago. All the nonbelievers and immoral hypocritical Christians were just quantum-immortality'd to the nearest timeline where they survived, one which happens to be completely godless, and we're they're descendents. So we live in a godless universe that just happens to have a brief illusory facsimile of an event that occurred in the original God-designed universe, the resurrection of Jesus, along with similar but not-quite-right (and increasingly divergent over time) facsimiles of the resulting literature and communities.

>>17867601
Also in my original timeline facsimile meant "copy" with a connotation of imperfection, but in this timeline it apparently means an exact copy. The changes are truly subtle and devious.

The fact that he is giving us over 2000 years to prepare is a good thing
Once he arrives, no more chance to repent

Mystery ways.

I still cant believe christians cope about this. 2000 fucking years the last christian shouldve gotten the clue 1950 years ago that it was all made up.

>>17867455 (OP)
You wouldn't be trying so hard to race swap them if it didn't matter, so obviously they were white and it does.

>>17867753
Christ explicitly thought that his second coming would happen in the lifetime of his followers. The fact that they died without it happening shows Christianity is a sham

>>17868297
That’s not what he said or meant.
He said the kingdom of Heaven is on already on earth and that the generation around him would not pass without seeing it reach them, which it did.
The kingdom of Heaven does not mean Christ’s return.
It means the church of Christ.

>>17868311
Yes

>>17867455 (OP)
A thousand years is as a day to the Lord.

God exists, but His timeline ≠ yours.

Also, He did return (spiritually) and you missed it.

>>17867455 (OP)
In St. Matthew's version of the Olivet Discourse, three separate questions are posed to the Good Sheperd:
>“Tell us,” they said,
>(1) “when will [the Temple be destroyed],
>(2) and what will be the sign of [Jesus'] coming
>(3) and of the end of the age?”
And Jesus responds seemingly to all three with verses 4 through 35 in the same chapter 24, which ends with the famous verse in 34, "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

But immediately after these verses he follows in verse 36 with:
>But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
And continues with several parables about final judgment with an emphasis on "not knowing the day or the hour."

It is clear that Jesus is replying in verse 36 to a different question than to what the immediately preceding verses are replying. And the emphasis on no man knowing the day or hour of his coming flatly contradicts the very specific prediction of the destruction of the Temple, meaning Jesus wasn't predicting the end of the world with the destruction of the Temple. Rather, Jesus Christ, being God, in a wise ambiguity suggests with the parables that follow, that though the end of the world may not soon come to humanity as a whole, it will soon come to individual humans, and especially to individual Christians, so that the proper attitude toward this question should be one of vigilance and preparedness. That is exactly what, for example, The Parable of the Ten Virgins stresses.

>>17867455 (OP)
>>17868297
In St. Matthew's version of the Olivet Discourse, three separate questions are posed to the Good Sheperd:
>“Tell us,” they said,
>(1) “when will [the Temple be destroyed],
>(2) and what will be the sign of [Jesus'] coming
>(3) and of the end of the age?”
And Jesus responds seemingly to all three with verses 4 through 35 in the same chapter 24, which ends with the famous verse in 34, "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

But immediately after these verses he follows in verse 36 with:
>But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
And continues with several parables about final judgment with an emphasis on "not knowing the day or the hour."

It is clear that Jesus is replying in verse 36 to a different question than to what the immediately preceding verses are replying. And the emphasis on no man knowing the day or hour of his coming flatly contradicts the very specific prediction of the destruction of the Temple, meaning Jesus wasn't predicting the end of the world with the destruction of the Temple. Rather, Jesus Christ, being God, in a wise ambiguity suggests with the parables that follow, that though the end of the world may not soon come to humanity as a whole, it will soon come to individual humans, and especially to individual Christians, so that the proper attitude toward this question should be one of vigilance and preparedness. That is exactly what, for example, The Parable of the Ten Virgins stresses.

>>17867455 (OP)
Their excuse is that the Gospels were written by Rome to propagandize the rule of Titus Flavius.

>>17867455 (OP)
he’s already come and gone
we’re living in Hell

>>17867802
What you fail to realize is that true believers experience God all the time. The spirit speaks to them and shows them visions and gives them knowledge and wisdom.

Those who truly believe have gotten the proof that God is real and they no longer have to doubt or have blind faith. Their faith is based in reality. They believe in the promise because God has manifested in their lives and God has manifested in their lives because they fortook evil and loved good.

God is REALLY good with those who love him.

>>17868472
It doesn't contradict it. He doesn't know *exactly* when the parousia will happen but he does know it will be soon

>>17867455 (OP)
They'll make the same excuses a thousand years from now

>>17868649
Not the only point that was made. You still have to show which question the verse-36 section is actually answering. If it is answering only the first then it indeed contradicts the Temple prediction, which would occur during any hour or day within that generation, effectively a meaningless distinction.

>>17868297
Don't read Matthew 24 without reading Matthew 23
He was referring to Israel, not the apostles.
His ultimatum was either accept him as Lord or be destroyed, which occurred in 70 AD. The priests who killed him lived to see it happen and got his head smashed on the temple walls

>>17867455 (OP)
Excuse for what? The universe is billions of years old that's nothing