Thread 17868595

With the amhara and Somali gun powder kingdoms rapidly and genocidly expanding south, was European colonialism halting this the saving grace for the Bantu peoples?

yes

Sheboons are even ugly at art

>>17868595 (OP)
>With the amhara and Somali gun powder kingdoms rapidly and genocidly expanding south
They weren't.

>European colonialism halting this the saving grace for the Bantu peoples?
>>17868835
Opposite actually. Anyone with Bantu ancestry was placed at the bottom of the totem pole in the colonies. Alos the Bantu states in Africa were farm from "defenseless".

>>17868595 (OP)
>Somali gun powder kingdoms
never heard of this, care to expand?

>>17868595 (OP)
>Somali
>Kingdom
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also Ethiopia only began expansion outwards contemporaneous with the scramble for Africa.
The 'Bantu' were doing very well, thank you very much.

>>17869131
He's making them up. Out of ignorance, probably. Somalis have always followed a Clan structure if I remember right.

>>17869148
Prior to this was a period during the middle ages but that was long past them by 1850.
You can read bout it here:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0067270X.2025.2510762#d1e401

>>17868595 (OP)
Lol no. The only reason those bulb heads had firepower was because of Europeans arming them in the first place. If it was an even playing field Bantvs would’ve conquered both.

>>17869131
i believe they were expanding tribes called ogaden which was moving deep into what is today kenya, while the Abyssinians were the expanding kingdom
>>17869148
yes once united under menelik he conquered and started expanding with guns, why would we assume he would have stopped this southern and eastern push without the scramble for africa?

>>17869165
the gap was too high for it to be a even playing field, ethiopians were trading with the west for thousands of years, it would all be colonized by menilik or the mad mahdi even if the scramble never happend

>>17869165
>>17869289
>>17869295
Where do you guys even come up with this.

>>17869125
They weren't defenseless, but there's no way they would stand a chance against the Somali peoples.

>>17869125
Checking that painting I don’t see how stone arrows and shields aren’t defenseless against muskets

>>17869365
Why would Somali even want to go south at all? Everyone could ship in guns by the time both had access to trade for guns.

>>17869632
Ethiopian–Adal War, they got it earlier

>>17869295
>trading with the west for thousands of years
LOL. Just leave this thread.

Britain created a remote vassal state called Abyssinia in 1868 when their jeet army made Showa warlord Teodros kill himself. Rather than incorporating the worthless rump with no sea outlet into the empire they kept it a no man’s land as a buffer against Italian/French presence in the horn.

>>17869840
>Britain created a remote vassal state called Abyssinia
It wasn't one. More so considering way more foreign and European advisors and policies figures were already still close with Ethiopia.

>Rather than incorporating the worthless rump with no sea outlet into the empire they kept it a no man’s land as a buffer against Italian/French presence in the horn.
You are mixing your time frames up

>>17869624
OPs pic aren't even Bantu for Christ's sake. They already had the South and frontier west in their realm prior to muskets.

>>17869828
so greece and rome didn't trade with the Axumites?

The skin color difference in that painting lol

>>17871291
The difference between development is so apparent, it's like modern day haiti (unmixed blacks) vs dominican republic (mulatos)

>>17869987
By Bantu he means the Niger-Congo people who expanded in the 800-1200s and whom the Bantu were a subgroup of.

>>17871368
Those in Op are Nilotes.

>>17871338
>haiti (unmixed blacks) vs dominican republic (mulatos)
Thats a super narrow comparison to make. Especially since there are many mixed and black states with higher or equal HDI than both.

>>17869110
>shhhheeeeeit

>>17871520
The comparison is that they literally share a island, DR and haiti show a stark contrast which you can’t write off as narrow as the location is almost as controlled a variable as any of these comparisons can reasonably get

>>17871900
Because they have pretty substantial differences in key points as well as Haiti experiencing a fuckton of foreign intervention and meddling even when compared to the already high meddling DR faced.

>>17869624
You think that's stone? Actually come to think of it, you think those are Bantus?

>>17871905
"Fun" fact, the USA quite literally robbed Haiti of their gold in the early 20th century.

>>17868595 (OP)
The cushites were actually being buckbroken by the chad Bantu Oromos

Ethiopia and Adal both became subjugated by Oromo chads

>>17869110
Jiggabooba

>>17869110
Seething cushite propaganda because they can't measure to BANTV KVVENS

>>17871338
Jamaica, Bahamas, Zanzibar vs DR
Kill yourself fag

>>17871984
I mean how would we be able to tell? They would be similarly near naked, and spear chucking
>>17872016
Oromo are cushites themselves, and also closely related to the tutsi

>>17868595 (OP)
Kek at dick stealing.

>>17871988
And then there's the IS occupation of both countries in Hispaniola which had some extremely fucked up shit.

>>17872132
>all the "private part stealing" hysteria in africa is generational trauma memory

>>17871520
>states
doesn't count since blacks in the USA are basically the pets of white people and therefore maintained by them
>>17872088
>Jamaica
Jamaica ls a shithole with one of the highest homicide rates in the americas
>Bahamas
meme micronation with not even half a million people
>Zanzibar
Arab mulatos, not black, still a meme micronation

>>17873730
None of this is true except Jamaica having a high homicide rate and Bahamas having less than a million which is irrelevant. All 3 are still livable black countries on par with or slightly below the Dominican Republic and shatter your whitoid race realist LARP to pieces. Cope. Go and get replaced by Abdul .

>>17868595 (OP)
why are they stealing the nigger cocks?

>>17873730
>>17873788
The top two most developed country in the Caribbean are black as well

>>17873379
>generational trauma memory
black clopes are hilarious

>>17873730
States means countries you stupid ESL. Stop race baiting and making Dominicans look bad

>>17873803
Dominican are Hispanics.They have been racially cleansed and continue to be so at this very moment. The powers that be are trying to turn the entire island into haiti and have been for centuries and have been racially and ethnically replacing Dominicans. That doesn't mean they aren't hispanics and the very first hispanics at that, you can continue to push you're pan African b.s all you want, they don't believe in it and reject it tooth and nail, back then and still do so today.

>>17872088
Doesn’t Ethiopia have the highest gdp in Africa after the North African countries and the boer economy of South Africa? Meaning in Africa only arabs or having millions of aryans like South Africa beats these mulattos in gdp I don’t think that’s a coincidence

>>17873871
Irrelevant off topic schizo babble as expected from a /pol/tard insecure macaque, possibly brown. Nobody is trying to turn the Dominicans black. The truth is there are several black countries more well off than the Dominican Republic causing the endless race realist nonsense spouted about that country to fall flat.

>>17873874
No.

>>17873883
>Nobody is trying to turn the Dominicans black
No one is trying to turn the Dominicans black? You clearly haven't done your research, explain why there is such a huge difference in the racial make up of the Dominican Republic today compared to before all the Haitian invasions? Which haiti had help from the British and eventually Americans in trying to take over the Dominican Republic and still do so today, explain such a vast change in the genetic makeup in the Dominican Republic, I can't think of a single country who has seen such a drastic change in their genetic makeup like that, if that isn't racial and ethnic cleansing, what is?

No Hispanic nation is suppose to have that much African blood, the Spaniards barely brought any Africans into the new world, so explain that.
>The truth is there are several black countries more well off than the Dominican Republic
The Dominican Republic is a Hispanic nation, the first Hispanic nation where Christopher Columbus first landed in 1492. The fact that they have been flooded with Africans (and thus their African blood increasing as time went on) in an attempt to weaken them (culturally, racially etc ) and slowly conquer them, that doesn't make them a "black" country or nation. They are Hispanic.

>>17873379
>>17873811
It is actually quite feasible. We know how buck breaking has had a profound psychological effect on African Americans. Black men exhibit homosexual behavior, pulling their underwear out their pants, gyrating dance moves with other men, obsession with fashion, most end up in prison and have some sort of homosexual experience, all those married black men on the "downlow", they are very "zesty" for lack of a better word.

Arabs would routinely snip their cocks off and if any survived the procedure they'd take the healthy ones as prized eunuch slaves and the rest they'd leave behind, if these survived and re-entered their communities they'd tell of how strange people came and took their cocks for perplexing reasons and as these stories were transmitted from generation to generation these strange people were identified as "witches".

>>17873788
>None of this is true
cope, zanzibar is an arab mulato country
>>17873883
name one (1) actually black (aka non-mutted) country with a population of at least more than 5 million that isn't a shithole

>>17873874
>Doesn’t Ethiopia have the highest gdp in Africa after the North African countries and the boer economy of South Africa
No not even close. Nigeria and Kenya are both above Ethiopia in terms of raw GDP, not even mentioning per capita where Botswana, Zimbabwe, Ghana, Senegal Gabon and Kenya, all black countries with very negligible white populations absolutely knock Ethiopia out of the park
>Meaning in Africa only arabs or having millions of aryans like South Africa beats these mulattos in gdp I don’t think that’s a coincidence
Retarded. Gabon and Botswana have higher GDPs (per capita) than South Africa which has white control over its economy

test

>>17873920
The Arab DNA in most Zanzibaris is practically unnoticeable. Even if they were Arabs, there's still Saint Kitts and Nevis with excellent statistics in everything.
>name one (1) actually black (aka non-mutted) country with a population of at least more than 5 million that isn't a shithole
Tanzania, Kenya, Angola and Senegal all have pretty good living standards.

>>17873935
>Zanzibaris
It's like a third or even half in most cases, cope
>Tanzania, Kenya, Angola and Senegal
all turbo shitholes

>>17873947
They're low crime, have decent economies/GDP per capital, well built cities. Cope pale macaque, get out here and pay taxes to Abdul

>>17873954
they're all eighth world shitholes, but I guess that's considered decent in africa lol

>>17873922
Ethiopia is higher then Kenya from everything I’ve searched and barely behind Nigeria, with the major suppression of lack of port access to international trade, Nigeria also having large castes of mulattos in shuwa arabs and fulanis proven by their haplogroups

>>17873991
Well you haven't searched enough. Kenya has a higher GDP per capital, human development index and better living standards. Fulani aren't mulattos, and the South, particularly the Southwest that heavily lacks Fulani and Shuwa influence have some of the highest economies and development in Nigeria. Stop trying to attribute every African achievement you can't downplay on mulattos, tard.

>>17873966
Wow you still are coping this hard. Diaspora chuds really need to get help.

>>17873914
And here comes the creepy racial fetishization and fantasies.

>>17873909
They are Carribean and Hispanic. Equatorial Guinea is African and Hispanic.

>>17874039
>us black folks are low IQ failures 'cause of "generational trauma", y'all crackaz be demons, pay me
>NOO NOT LIKE THAT
lol, lmao

>>17874102
Yes, you are obssesed about blacks and not being seen as black. We get that's who whole identity.

This horn of afrrica pandering is so cringe . Somalians and ethioppians alone take like half of western aid and still outbreed bantus per capita.

>>17874032
he's not wrong, Tanzania, Kenya, Angola and Senegal are all total shitholes, of the worst countries in the world with no dream of even second world status

>>17874193
Samefag

>>17874042
>Caribbean
Just another way for you to push you're pan African b.s on them. By Caribbean you mean black. They are hispanic, the end.

>>17874173
>uh.. you're.. *flips through book of logical fallacies and bait* ob..obsessed?
nah bro, try to calm down, this thread is about blacks, this is the sole reason I am stating facts about black people

>>17874039
even doe niggers resort to fetishizing white women (which is actually just worshipping whiteness) whenever they're criticized

>>17874237
>By Caribbean you mean black.
No one said that Schizo.

>>17874246
>>17874273
How are you this mentally ill?

>>17874246
Where are the facts, we all know that whites are the cucked prey of blacks no matter how many gay rape memes you post here. The fact you post it here instead of real life is proof enough

>>17868595 (OP)
Yet another reason to hate euro colonialism. Imagine a world without them...

>>17874290
all african americans are european rapebabies

>>17874190
how is them outbreading bantus a bad thing?

>>17874515
Because the world does not need more niggers.

>>17873914
Think about it logically. If Arabs aren't witches, why do they dress like that? Wake up sheeple