With the amhara and Somali gun powder kingdoms rapidly and genocidly expanding south, was European colonialism halting this the saving grace for the Bantu peoples?

yes

Sheboons are even ugly at art

>>17868595 (OP)
>With the amhara and Somali gun powder kingdoms rapidly and genocidly expanding south
They weren't.

>European colonialism halting this the saving grace for the Bantu peoples?
>>17868835
Opposite actually. Anyone with Bantu ancestry was placed at the bottom of the totem pole in the colonies. Alos the Bantu states in Africa were farm from "defenseless".

>>17868595 (OP)
>Somali gun powder kingdoms
never heard of this, care to expand?

>>17868595 (OP)
>Somali
>Kingdom
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also Ethiopia only began expansion outwards contemporaneous with the scramble for Africa.
The 'Bantu' were doing very well, thank you very much.

>>17869131
He's making them up. Out of ignorance, probably. Somalis have always followed a Clan structure if I remember right.

>>17869148
Prior to this was a period during the middle ages but that was long past them by 1850.
You can read bout it here:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0067270X.2025.2510762#d1e401

>>17868595 (OP)
Lol no. The only reason those bulb heads had firepower was because of Europeans arming them in the first place. If it was an even playing field Bantvs would’ve conquered both.

>>17869131
i believe they were expanding tribes called ogaden which was moving deep into what is today kenya, while the Abyssinians were the expanding kingdom
>>17869148
yes once united under menelik he conquered and started expanding with guns, why would we assume he would have stopped this southern and eastern push without the scramble for africa?

>>17869165
the gap was too high for it to be a even playing field, ethiopians were trading with the west for thousands of years, it would all be colonized by menilik or the mad mahdi even if the scramble never happend

>>17869165
>>17869289
>>17869295
Where do you guys even come up with this.

>>17869125
They weren't defenseless, but there's no way they would stand a chance against the Somali peoples.

>>17869125
Checking that painting I don’t see how stone arrows and shields aren’t defenseless against muskets

>>17869365
Why would Somali even want to go south at all? Everyone could ship in guns by the time both had access to trade for guns.

>>17869632
Ethiopian–Adal War, they got it earlier

>>17869295
>trading with the west for thousands of years
LOL. Just leave this thread.

Britain created a remote vassal state called Abyssinia in 1868 when their jeet army made Showa warlord Teodros kill himself. Rather than incorporating the worthless rump with no sea outlet into the empire they kept it a no man’s land as a buffer against Italian/French presence in the horn.

>>17869840
>Britain created a remote vassal state called Abyssinia
It wasn't one. More so considering way more foreign and European advisors and policies figures were already still close with Ethiopia.

>Rather than incorporating the worthless rump with no sea outlet into the empire they kept it a no man’s land as a buffer against Italian/French presence in the horn.
You are mixing your time frames up

>>17869624
OPs pic aren't even Bantu for Christ's sake. They already had the South and frontier west in their realm prior to muskets.

>>17869828
so greece and rome didn't trade with the Axumites?

The skin color difference in that painting lol

>>17871291
The difference between development is so apparent, it's like modern day haiti (unmixed blacks) vs dominican republic (mulatos)

>>17869987
By Bantu he means the Niger-Congo people who expanded in the 800-1200s and whom the Bantu were a subgroup of.

>>17871368
Those in Op are Nilotes.

>>17871338
>haiti (unmixed blacks) vs dominican republic (mulatos)
Thats a super narrow comparison to make. Especially since there are many mixed and black states with higher or equal HDI than both.

>>17869110
>shhhheeeeeit

>>17871520
The comparison is that they literally share a island, DR and haiti show a stark contrast which you can’t write off as narrow as the location is almost as controlled a variable as any of these comparisons can reasonably get

>>17871900
Because they have pretty substantial differences in key points as well as Haiti experiencing a fuckton of foreign intervention and meddling even when compared to the already high meddling DR faced.

>>17869624
You think that's stone? Actually come to think of it, you think those are Bantus?

>>17871905
"Fun" fact, the USA quite literally robbed Haiti of their gold in the early 20th century.

>>17868595 (OP)
The cushites were actually being buckbroken by the chad Bantu Oromos

Ethiopia and Adal both became subjugated by Oromo chads

>>17869110
Jiggabooba

>>17869110
Seething cushite propaganda because they can't measure to BANTV KVVENS

>>17871338
Jamaica, Bahamas, Zanzibar vs DR
Kill yourself fag

>>17871984
I mean how would we be able to tell? They would be similarly near naked, and spear chucking
>>17872016
Oromo are cushites themselves, and also closely related to the tutsi

>>17868595 (OP)
Kek at dick stealing.

>>17871988
And then there's the IS occupation of both countries in Hispaniola which had some extremely fucked up shit.

>>17872132
>all the "private part stealing" hysteria in africa is generational trauma memory

>>17871520
>states
doesn't count since blacks in the USA are basically the pets of white people and therefore maintained by them
>>17872088
>Jamaica
Jamaica ls a shithole with one of the highest homicide rates in the americas
>Bahamas
meme micronation with not even half a million people
>Zanzibar
Arab mulatos, not black, still a meme micronation

>>17873730
None of this is true except Jamaica having a high homicide rate and Bahamas having less than a million which is irrelevant. All 3 are still livable black countries on par with or slightly below the Dominican Republic and shatter your whitoid race realist LARP to pieces. Cope. Go and get replaced by Abdul .

>>17868595 (OP)
why are they stealing the nigger cocks?

>>17873730
>>17873788
The top two most developed country in the Caribbean are black as well

>>17873379
>generational trauma memory
black clopes are hilarious

>>17873730
States means countries you stupid ESL. Stop race baiting and making Dominicans look bad