Thread 17870149 - /his/ [Archived: 420 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:02:40 AM No.17870149
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What created this divide /his/?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:03:25 AM No.17870152
>>17870149 (OP)
Rice created it.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:03:43 AM No.17870153
>>17870149 (OP)
both are shit the only grain food is like is corn
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:04:29 AM No.17870155
>>17870153
How corny
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:07:38 AM No.17870157
>>17870149 (OP)
bread is suboptimal
>doesn't store long
>can't transport large quantities of it
>eaten roughly after it is made
>hours to prepare

rice is optimal
>store a bunch of it for a long time
>can't transport it anywhere
>prepares quickly

euros would have less famine if they were rice pilled
slants would have less famine if they ate more bread
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:09:24 AM No.17870160
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>>17870149 (OP)
If you think about it history of the world can be summed up as conflict between wheat farmer vs rice farmer civilization (both have meat eater nomad rulling class on top)
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:24:58 AM No.17870170
>>17870149 (OP)
climate.
people choose rice if they can grow rice regardless of culture and race, which is scientifically clear.
they grow wheat when the land is unsuitable to rice.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:25:58 AM No.17870171
>>17870149 (OP)
Rice requires a lot of water and grows best in hot and humid climates. The red areas checks those boxes.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:28:09 AM No.17870175
>>17870171
This is the only real answer. East Asia and Southeast Asia have heavy rain and monsoon seasons which are more ideal for growing rice. Grain used to make bread flour can be grown in far dryer enviornments which makes it more convenient for more to grow.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:37:03 AM No.17870189
>>17870160
No it can't
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:39:02 AM No.17870194
>>17870157
White rice has low nutritional value compared to bread. Maybe that's why Asians are small.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:39:24 AM No.17870196
>>17870160
Corn civs got low diff'd ngl.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:41:35 AM No.17870203
>>17870194
Asians literally replace most of the protein in their diet with MSG, which is a chemical that isn't actually bad in and of itself but it's made to mimick protein without actually providing it, and they put it on everything even though it's not a substitute for real protein because the savoryness ("umami") is too addicting.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:49:58 AM No.17870208
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>>17870149 (OP)
>What created this divide /his/?

Weather.
Rice does really well in warm, wet, climates, so well in fact that in some places you can harvest a rice crop 2-3 times a year, especially so if it's cultivated in a flooded paddy. Rice is also the definitive, "more people = more food" cereal since as laborious as it is to grow (according to google the first rice planting machine wasn't invented until 1898 in Japan) every person, and every additional bit of land, devoted to rice cultivation brings back exponential returns in a way you don't see out of other cereals. This is why you go into some of these Southeast Asian countries and they'll have nearly every square inch of land converted into a paddy and how you can start figuring out why places like China, Indonesia, and India, have most of our species.

Wheat on the other hand likes drier, colder, temperate climates and even in the best conditions you'll only get a 2 harvests from it. Wheat makes up for these short comings by having significantly more dietary protein and require much less labor - 1 person can theoretically grow enough wheat, all by themselves, to feed somewhere between 14-32 people.


>>17870160

Everything in history is dictated by agriculture/food production.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:00:57 AM No.17870213
>>17870157
>doesn't store long
tack does
>can't transport large quantities of it
yes you can
>eaten roughly after it is made
you can't eat something before it's made
>hours to prepare
greatly depends on the bread. rice also takes a much greater effort to harvest.

>store a bunch of it for a long time
true
>prepares quickly
30 minutes is not "quickly"
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:02:08 AM No.17870216
>>17870149 (OP)
This map is dumb because it doesn't also have "noodle".
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:03:19 AM No.17870218
>>17870149 (OP)
monSOON
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:04:33 AM No.17870220
>>17870208
>1 person can theoretically grow enough wheat, all by themselves, to feed somewhere between 14-32 people.
doubt
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:25:50 AM No.17870243
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>>17870216
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:27:37 AM No.17870246
>>17870157
>bread is suboptimal
Bread isn't stored; flour is, bread is the same as already cooked rice
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:29:23 AM No.17870248
>>17870246
ironically, even cooked bread can actually be stored if it's dry and kept in a dry enviornment, or if its dehydrated as a cracker or biscuit like with many military rations
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:31:38 AM No.17870252
>>17870248
You can but that is a particular form not eaten by most people; bread was the already cooked product that's why it's not comparable to raw rice
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:36:14 AM No.17870259
>>17870208
>1 person can theoretically grow enough wheat, all by themselves, to feed somewhere between 14-32 people.
Source? Are you talking about about a modern farmer with tractors, fertilizer and GMO wheat or a 12th century peasant?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:44:49 AM No.17870269
>>17870243
bread is a staple in northern china too, but mostly just steamed
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:51:06 AM No.17870278
>>17870149 (OP)
Manchuria is a rice region along with Korea/Japan
Northern China, including parts listed as rice here, is wheat but not bread
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:59:21 AM No.17870288
>>17870220
>>17870259

Nope, yeah, you're right. I misremembered.
A single person, with access to 'hypothetical' ideal weather and soil conditions, only using hand-held tools, can theoretically grow enough wheat to feed anywhere from 12-30 people. That was a silly thing for me to say since under *realistic* conditions a person could probably only feed 4-8 people.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:20:30 PM No.17870457
cook pepe
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>>17870153
Agree.
Meat, dairy, fruits and vegetables are the way to go.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:22:26 PM No.17870460
>>17870153
Enjoy your niacin deficency
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 12:30:41 PM No.17870469
>>17870149 (OP)
This is very inaccurate for Iraq, we consume a lot of rice more than bread