Thread 17872653

>most popular president in U.S history was a socialist dictator
>in a country that’s autistically anti socialist and all about “ muh freedom “
Explain Yankees

>>17872653 (OP)
You have no idea what it's like to starve. You have no idea what it's like to grow up in the ghetto. Ideology falls by the wayside real fucking quick, let me tell you. Plus "SOCIALISM" wasn't the bogeyman in 1932 that it is today.

>>17872653 (OP)
>>in a country that’s autistically anti socialist
The US was never anti socialist. They were pro-socialism for White people only.

>>17872653 (OP)

Venona project

>>17872653 (OP)
Lincoln is the most popular president

>>17872653 (OP)
He wasn't a socialist, he had a mixed economy.

>>17872676
Right... about that...

>>17872676
>had to destroy half the country and censor the media because he was so popular

>>17872681
Boomers are an embarrassment.
>>17872694
He saved the union.

How come southerners love socialism so much?

>>17872653 (OP)
>Explain Yankees
Yankees are nationalist whigs that only care about power and finance, they're "jews". Every country has a nationalist faction usually centering around germanic descendants. They're basically warlike grugs

>>17872697
Because he was acknowledging the south got buttfucked by the civil war and decided to build some infrastructure down there and show it some love. But I'm pretty sure he just treated it like a slush fund and spent most of the money on researching a nuke

>>17872696
>He saved the union.
He was also the reason it was at risk to begin with.
If you love him for ending slavery, fair enough, but don't pretend to give him credit for solving a crisis he himself created.

>>17872702
I actually do think it's good that we moved on from slavery. I wish he lived on and we deported all of the blacks though.

>>17872706
What's funny is it was the south that wanted to deport blacks. The north shit down the idea of black deportation because some crazed Presbyterians started to worship blacks in the 1830's

>>17872710
The black worship is insane dude. It's part of the reason I'm so radical now.

>>17872713
It's fine if you don't care that somebody is black, but don't start paying blacks to be around you like servants

>>17872716
And yes that's what the Presbyterians did

>>17872670
This. Few understand this, but once you do, most of American history makes sense. We don't use the word, traditionally, socialist/socialism though--- we call it Jeffersonian/Jacksonian Democracy or populism.

>>17872698
But some of the most well known nationalist whigs were southerners.

>>17872706
He was never going to deport them because the North didn't support it. Lincoln's deportationism emerged from his Upland South background, but the northerners were against deportation at that point.

>>17872730
Which way nationalist? West? or East?

>>17872653 (OP)
Idealogy doesn’t matter when you are literally starving and real unemployment is close to 50%. The Works progress administration in particular gave people jobs who had literally no other options

>>17872653 (OP)
The idea that America was founded as a capitalist paradise is a revisionist myth. Alexander Hamilton was a protectionist who opposed free trade policies and Thomas Jefferson viewed industrial wage labor as tyranny and he instead believed people should live off the land like hippies.

>>17872869
If you take Jefferson's and Hamilton's viewpoints and then meld them together, the logical conclusion is protectionist market socialism.

>>17872676
>Lincoln is the most popular president

Uhhhh.... yeah about that...

>>17872696
>He saved the union.
Is that supposed to be a good thing?