Would history be better if the Vatican conquered all of Europe and unified it into one state?

>>17884577 (OP)

If that happened, I think Europe today would have an absolutely immaculate amount of incredible architecture, art, and science instead of being a regressive shithole.

I would like it if that didn't happen and in stead The Book of Mormon is from Africa

>>17884593
bot

>>17884593

Stay on topic, dingus.

>>17884597

>>17884577 (OP)
Isn't that what happened with the 2nd HRE?

>>17884593
Ooh interesting

>>17884604

Technically not all of Europe. This would be a pretty good representation of what I mean, except you replace the EU flag with the Vatican flag.

>>17884606
Was that before Brexit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
According to the prophecy of the popes we're on the last pope before Petrus Romanus (if that counts)
>In pſecutione.
was Francis
>extrema S.R.E. ſedebit.
Is Leo XIV

>>17884577 (OP)
Catholicism in Europe is really fucking weird if you think about it. It's like what would have happened to China in the three kingdoms period if the evil conniving eunuchs took over the Yellow Turban movement and started trying to boss around the warlords.

>>17884615
Kings believed in Jesus

>>17884617
Dubious. That seems to be the case in the medieval period, but that was after centuries of manipulation, riot pushing, corruption, etc.

>>17884618
conversion

>>17884577 (OP)

>>17884606

An empire united in Christ.

>>17884627
It begs the question why kings felt muscled into converting their populations wholesale. It's all top-down.

>>17884630
No argument here - they usually weren't real conversions anyway - plague of nominal christianity

>>17884577 (OP)
No.
>>17884585
>>17884597
>>17884628
picrel
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17857023/#17857030

>>17884636

A demon made me type that.

>>17884636
That guy converted me to Buddhism

>>17884639
You should try >>17884601

>>17884636
He has a problem >>17884638
He doesn't like Mormonposting

>>17884639

Buddhism promotes all the vices Christianity hates under the guise of "moderation" -- granny sex, rape, incest, drugs, etc.

>>17884646
you should stop using porn

>>17884646

Buddha was also the Antichrist, look here --

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17837677/#17837677

>>17884647

Where'd I indicate that I did?

>>17884595
botnet

>>17884644
His problem is that he hates Jesus Christ and is going to spend eternity burning in a nightmarish torture pit called "Hell".

>>17884649
You must repent.

>>17884649
We know you hate Jesus, by the way.

>>17884653
You should read the Book of Mormon and gain a testimony of the Holy Ghost that it is true and from Africa

how the fuck do we have 3 schizos at once
the mormon schizo, simon salva, and the enjoy hell guy
how is this possible
are they all just summerfags or something

>>17884658
Don't knock it 'till you try it (The Book of Mormon)

>>17884658
U got a problem with burning in hell maybe you should stop being a sinner and repent of your sins and accept Jesus Christ

>>17884658
I am not a schizo

>>17884612
Whoa

>>17884658
>schizo
No, sorry, I have to take that away from you. I am the very picture of mental health. The other two are raging lunatics, and guess what? You're just as batty as the pair since you think you can escape the righteous judgment of the Lord. Tick tock.

>>17884668
t. Didn't even read

>>17884668
>source: AI

The fuck has this board turned into

>>17884658
>>17884672
There should be a separate /rel/ containment board

>>17884577 (OP)
People's first loyalty was to the church and monarchs lamented that their authority was not the supreme law. This state lasted a very long time until the church decided to change the definition of the God's people to include non whites, causing the protestant schisms and ultimately the destruction of all christendom.

>>17884671
Terrible pattern recognition. I'm so glad I don't have your worthless brain.

>>17884635
Lots of fake Christians in this thread like "enjoy hell" guy

>>17884682
I think simon is the fakest of them all, just look at the shit he does

>>17884682
he and I occasionally team up

>>17884593
I would buy that..

>>17884686
He admits that he hates Jesus. Are you stupid, or are you Simon?
>>17884682
>fake Christian
You're doomed.

>>17884687
>Tick tock anon when he makes it to hell
Tick tick tick. Tock. Tock. Tock. Tick tick tick.

>>17884577 (OP)
What does that have to do with Roman Catholicism?

>>17884597
Enjoy your day.

>>17884693
I'm never going to Hell.

>>17884703
You doom yourself

>>17884658
>>17884668
>>17884638
Blaspehmers and demoniacs: repent and believe the Gospel.

>>17884708
Congratulations: You just blasphemed the Holy Ghost. You're done.

>>17884711
You never had a testimony of the Holy Ghost to begin with.
inb4
>Lord Lord

I took a break to pray for your souls, and holy fuck this is what I come back to?

>>17884721
Pray for your own

>>17884665
>>17884721
>23 minute long prayer

>>17884722

The Holy Roman Catholic Church is the Church I follow, and it's the one Jesus founded. Not the Eastern Orthococks Church, or any of the many denominations of Lowtestsyndrome. We also have apparitions, Eucharistic miracles, etc.

>>17884714
I'm literally indwelled by the Holy Ghost. You're going to wish you were never born, and that makes me happy. I hate those who hate the Lord.

>>17884728
Then what confounds you from the Book of Mormon? Do you believe evil reports of satan?

Nostradamus is a cool prophet, he refuted Calvin
>>17884727

>>17884731

This fucking faggot has hijacked 2 of my threads now. Fuck off, moron.

>>17884735

>>17884728
I can answer your questions if you should inquire
Do not be afraid of the Book of Mormon
>>17884735

>>17884733
Calvin was completely and utterly destroyed by St. Servetus and is a testament to how many heretics and deceived people can claim to be in the church

>>17884593
>>17884601
Interesting. Can you tell me more?

>>17884735
>troll thread gets derailed
BOOHOO NIGGER

>>17884759

How is it a troll thread?

>>17884761
>Fuck off, mormon
No u

Replacement migration would be at an all time high. Child rape would be at an all time high. Corruption would be at an all time high. Fake miracles would be at an all time high.

>>17884763

Actually, all of those things would be nearly nonexistent.

>>17884727
>Lowtestsyndrome
Ouch. Maybe you should stop using porn

>>17884740
>>17884731
Joseph Smith is burning in the lowest Hell, right next to Mohammed. You'll join him one day. :)

>>17884771
Mohammed is a prophet just as much as Joseph Smith is; the Book of Mormon is from the Sabians mystery people in the Koran

>>17884628
The Pope kissed the Koran
Maybe they will be united some day

>>17884771
>the lowest Hell
So the least amount of torment? Thank you for your blessing!

>>17884765
Yet cathcucks invite blacks and troons to feast in the Vatican. Curious.

>>17884606
Turkey is not in the EU

>>17884788

No they don't.

>>17884791

Is it?

>>17884799
Why do you hate the LDS? I don't tell you to leave Roman Catholicism, if that's where your people are, good for you! I just recommend the book to strengthen your faith in God

>>17884577 (OP)
When they lost Avignon it was all downhill

>>17884803

LDS is demonic heresy.

>>17884847
You troll, but, you don't answer the question
Why make a thread if you are just going to be empty?

>>17884864

I'm not trolling. I think the Book of Mormon is demonic, since Jesus Christ Himself decried any false teachings and told His followers not to pursue them. So I won't.

>>17884865
>false teachings
Yes but he did say not to condemn people who were performing miracles in his name - even Apostle Paul was called outside of the regular order so they would be assured that people can have visions and callings and not be of the traditional church and still be true

>>17884658
Relax. It’s called trolling.

>>17884902
Enjoy hell

>>17884903
>AAHHHH
>OH MY FAITH
>Jesus save me!!!
Sorry, should have followed Baldur instead of getting fried by Surtur.

>>17884912

Baldur is a demon.

>>17884816

Nah, I think they could recover pretty well since they're backed by God Himself.

>>17884677
>peoples loyalty was to the church
the church struggled to enforce even the most basic laws it had

>>17884771
That's what the Jews say about Jesus Christ but you have no actual argument. I accept your defeat.

>>17884975
They seem to have made a number of doctrinal concessions to Protestants in the past century or so
Is that what you mean by recovery? I agree

>>17884896
Apostle Paul also taught things that went against what most people even apostles thought the Bible said

>>17884781
>Pearl of Great Price
>Covenants Doctrine
Why do they not put those in with the Mormon book all th e time?

The Mormonfag performatively shitting up the thread should shut the fuck up.

>>17884628
Catholics don't even have proper commandments, have weird pagan shit like mary/ishtar queen of heaven worship, or how babylonian whore description from Revelation 17:4 suspiciously sounds like vatican.

>>17884628

This particular image seems to make a lot of (((pagans))) (antiwhite useful idiots) mad...

>>17884672
And your alternative to that, i assume is unironic fedoraism or even blind belief in govt and normalfag approved narrative?

>>17884677
>christendom.
Catholicism is not real christdendom

>>17884727
>We also have antichristian fanfiction and actual demonic shit

>The Moron Fag performatively shitting up the thread should shut the fuck up.
(OP) (You)

>>17884577 (OP)

What have p*gan empires ever done for us?

>>17885133

What science did they ever produce? What philosophy did they ever produce? What architecture did they ever produce? What ANYTHING did they ever produce? Oh right, stones with pretty pictures carved in them. Shame.

The idea of Europe turning into one country is ridiculous. We have the EU and that's enough

>>17885173

>Unifying Europe is...le bad!

Just admit you're an anti-white fagan and move on.

>>17884577 (OP)
It would have been the absolute best possible outcome.

>>17885384

Based.

>>17885073

>>17885463
>>17884781
>>17884700

Based.

Mormonism is gay and demonic. Praying for you.

how much of this board is just faggy election tourist christcucks like simon

>>17885482
who knows, made worse by the fact simon has admit to being a troll yet mods refuse to do anything worthwhile about it

>>17885482
see ITT
>>17884638

>>17885480
You are wrong

>>17885483

A demon made me say that.

>>17886552

I am right.

Bump. Pagays BTFO.

>>17884577 (OP)
Possibly. The Vatican was a historical mistake. Ecclesiastical authority was never meant to == Political authority. I think people probably get the elites they deserve. Sad to say, the Godless secular lib-left nightmare that is Western Europe these days could be the best the West can hope for.
The Eastern Orthodox figured out Autocephaly is better than a central Vicar trying to reign over various countries/cultures.
The Latin embrace of the filioque heresy was the first turn off the track that led eventually led them to Caesaropopes and Clown Masses and veneration of pagan deities like Pachamama. Perhaps if all of Western Europe's eggs weren't in the Papal basket, things might have worked out better. An Archbishop of Germany and England might've prevented the resentment that eventually led to the Protestant Deformation.

Buump for paganfag tears.

>>17884577 (OP)
Imagine pope LARPers trying to run Europe. Based catholic theocracy? Maybe. But more like endless crusades, heresy purges, and no science cuz muh Bible. Also, turbo-autism over which saint's feast day it is.

>>17887082

Does >>17884628 picrel make you angry, Moshe?

>>17887054
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/yeti-blood-oath-divides-denver-seminary

The clerics you submit to do pagan blood oaths with Bigfoot. Can’t wait for you to be Shinto tomorrow.

>>17887088
>larpfag calling someone else a jew

>>17887111

A demon made me type that.

>>17887121
Yeah that demon was (You)

>>17884577 (OP)
No.

Christendom is designed to be a coalition of nations just as the 12 Tribes of Israel were a coalition of tribes. The Tribe of Levi is supposed to sanctify the 12 Tribes, but political authority rests elsewhere. For the 12 Tribes it was with the Tribe of Judah through King David. For Christendom there really isn't a main recognized leader. Each nation does its own thing.

>>17884646
What is wrong with granny sex?

>>17887876

Bump.

>>17885077

Roman Catholicism is the ONLY true denom.

Bump.

>>17884577 (OP)
D&C thread

>>17889108

Not.

Christ is King!

>>17889617

>>17889334
Yes it is, see D&C right there
>>17884781

>>17886564
Evidently not.

>>17889618

A demon made me say that.

>>17889640
>made
Sorry to hear that

>>17884577 (OP)
No.

>>17889794

Why not, Ranjesh?

>>17889798
Jesus is the Lord of Lords, and for the whole world to come into one sheepfold it would have to be Jesus himself made flesh.

>>17884577 (OP)
>would Europe be better off run by Italians
No

I have something better. GREEK EMPIRE OF EUROPE RULED BY ORTHODOXY

>>17889847

Orthodoxy is heresy and has no evidence.

>Shitalians
>Gayreeks

Jesus Christ, /his/ is full of retards. At least pick a religion from a race that created functioning, successful societies in the last 500 years.

>>17889865
Mormons it is then.

>>17889858
Did Jesus say that? I only listen to Him

>>17889883

"On this Rock I build my Church".

He's referring to the Roman Catholic Church.

>>17889890
Ahem.
MORMONS IT IS THEN.

>>17887054

>I've studied Japanese for 4+ years
Did you get to Zen Buddhism yet?

>>17889916

Christ is King. Demon worship is retarded.

>>17889890
He's referring to the temple of God, the body. Christ was entombed within the Skull of Man (Golgotha) simple, really simple.

>>17884577 (OP)

We avoid holocaust. A win in my book.

>>17890122

No, we would have the German Holocaust PLUS many other events of its kind happening everywhere. Christians are the ones who destroyed both Temples, don't you remember?

>>17890205

>>17890205

Another flaw that stands out is the curious omission of a certain tribe. Nixey does not mention Jews outside the context of Hypatia’s murder other than to describe them as “the hated enemies of the Church,” citing John Chrysostom’s anti-Jewish homilies. But the Jews both directly and indirectly contributed to the destruction of the Classical world. The fanatical hatred and dogmatism of the early Christians was directly inherited from their Jewish forebears. Exodus 22:20 reads, “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.” Jews also engaged in the destruction of pagan statues, temples, and works of art themselves. During the Kitos War, for example, Jewish rebels led by Lukuas ravaged Cyrenaica, destroying pagan statues and temples as well as Roman official buildings and bathhouses. Additionally, they ethnically cleansed the region by brutally murdering as many as two hundred forty thousand of its inhabitants.[7] The carnage was such that Rome had to restore the population by establishing new colonies there. Lukuas and the Jews then set fire to Alexandria, destroying Egyptian temples and desecrating the tomb of Pompey. This was but one of several Jewish rebellions against the Roman Empire.

https://counter-currents.com/2018/08/the-christian-destruction-of-the-classical-world/

>>17889965
Jesus said not to go around condemning others who were performing miracles

bump