Thread 17885810

How did Japan manage to recover and even surpass several European economies after being devastated by two atomic bombings?

>>17885810 (OP)
Japanese autism.

>>17885810 (OP)
>Implying Japan isn't being invaded by rapejeets as we speak
bloody pakis saar amarite?

>>17885833
That's your homeland Nigel not Japan

>>17885810 (OP)
They did not. They have been in a crisis since the '90s, when their demographics started to fall off, and the supposed automation or AI revolution didn't help.

>>17885810 (OP)
>>17885847
Japan has just been amazing at soft power, they managed to convince retarded foreigners that Japan is living in the future, everything is automated, they have the best education system, no crime etc.

In reality they have been lagging behind economically for decades. All the cool robot stuff people basedface about are either some marketing stunt shown on an expo or basically just a vending machine. Or something you can also just find in an Audi factory. Meanwhile the avarage person still just lives in a regular small town house or tiny city apartment not unlike those in the West and has access to pretty much the same technology.

If you want to see a real Asian success story, look at Singapore (which is also largely built on cheap labor of SEA workers, but many the Chinese-Singaporians do live in luxury).

>>17885885
>JAPAN IS A NIGGA GANGSTA GHETTO JUST LIKE DETROIT
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>>17885885
Singaporean capitalism was such a success that chinks dropped communism to do it too

>>17885847
20 year ''crisis'' yet still by ar one of the highest standards of living on the planet

>>17885810 (OP)
Japan has full of jeet and kurdish migrants shitting up the place now
When will 4fag stop dickriding japan as this perfect utopia. They hate foreigners regardless if you're a whitoid too

>>17885885
>>17886024
Cope
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/25/japan-upper-house-election-sanseito-japanese-first

>>17885927
The median income in Japan is below Poland and Czechia now. They also dropped from #1 HDI in the world to #23.

>>17886024

Japan has a huge Korean and Chinese minority that's been living there for centuries so the whole idea that "Japan has no immigrants" was a complete and total farce to start with.

>>17885927
Yes my American friend, that's because they can actually get their rich to pay taxes with different income tax brackets like a normal country. So, they can afford a functioning social security and national education system. Enjoy having to pay for it all from 1/40 of a CEO.

>>17886196
The US has more progressive taxes than Japan.

>>17885810 (OP)
Two towns nuked out of 700 doesnt mean that the country was devastated. Allies did more damage with normal firebombing.

There are no robots

>>17885810 (OP)
>japanese population in 1945 = 72,000,000~
>higher end of nagasaki+hiroshima death tolls = 210,000
(210,000 / 72,000,000) * 100 = 0.291666%
The bombs wiped out two cities and about 0.3% of the population. That's not what "devastated" means.

>>17885810 (OP)
>devastated by two atomic bombings
lol "devastated", the atomic bombs did less damage than the fire bombing campaign of Tokyo. They literally rebuilt Nagasaki and Hiroshima in like 3 years. The atom bomb did most of the work knocking down the unusable buildings at the epicenter so they just had to clear the land and rebuild. The Japanese have always been good at rapid construction because they live on an island chain with frequent earthquakes.

>>17885847
>They did not.
Your own graph literally shows that yes, they did, you fucking retard.

>>17886407
More people were killed and displaced by Tokyo being razed to the ground. Most of the aid the US gave to Japan for rebuilding was funneled into resurrecting Tokyo from being a ghost town.

>>17886203
The US has way more loopholes and scams that negate taxes compared to Japan. On top of that we simply spend more money on wasteful bullshit.

>>17886613
>On top of that we simply spend more money on wasteful bullshit.
Agreed, most of that wasteful bullshit is welfare and medical care.

>>17886624
Japan actually has superior welfare and government medical care to the US. We just spend more because Americans are extremely unhealthy and there’s tons of people scamming the system inside and out.

>>17886613
>loopholes and scams
Insubstantive hearsay, taxes are still more progressive in the US by far when you look at who's paying what. Japan eats up a huge chunk of salaries to fund their infinite horde of pensioners.

>>17886024

Japan hs a population of 124 million. There are only 54k Indians in Japan. 54k out of 124 million isn’t that much. Though there are quite a few nepalis.

Also the number of Kurds is between 2-3000 and Turks a similar number. Both minuscule populations.

>>17886179
Huge? How many?

>>17885810 (OP)
Marshall Plan, rapid industrialization, government-led economic reforms, a skilled workforce, and a strong export-focused growth strategy.

>>17885810 (OP)

Christianity.

>>17885810 (OP)
Ironically, getting destroyed from a disaster can actually improve with a new foundation

>>17886024
thousands of jeets in japan is nothingburger compared to the millions in London alone

>>17886874
It started with thousands in england too... Japan is doomed is basically blacked already.

>>17886878
it's not too late yet for japan
they still retain their identity; they just have to push back stronger against filthy foreigners

plus they should stop marketing their country as a futuristic weeb utopia to drive foreigners away

>>17886884
Japanese also have pretty intense in group social shaming system. They might allow some inter marriages because they’re trying to be progressives but at a point they will start shaming people that participate. Because their societies internal shaming system hasn’t been propagandized out of them like the west.

Japanese-American inter marriages in the whole country is still less than 2000 and they have a positive image of Americans.

>>17885810 (OP)
jewish subversion in the West

It's due to the economic miracle that happened in the 1950s. It is mainly due to Ikeda's policies that the economy improved so much. Also Tokyo 1964

>>17885847
Europe really never recovered from 2008.

>>17885810 (OP)
Japan wasn't actually devastated by two cities being deleted by an otherwise considerable nation. An atom bomb could delete Boston and Galveston today and most of the nation wouldn't be "devastated."

Japan is also getting flooded with jeets and arabs

Western puppets keep getting into positions of power

>>17886918
>Japanese also have pretty intense in group social shaming system. They might allow some inter marriages because they’re trying to be progressives but at a point they will start shaming people that participate. Because their societies internal shaming system hasn’t been propagandized out of them like the west.
That system sucks ass because they shame each other over the silliest shit which enables shitty geezer into stagnating shit further. Can't call out shitty multi billion dollar investor fleeting 80 year old pensioner funds, can't call out shitty husband's ans neglecting wives neeting in MMOs.

>Japanese-American inter marriages in the whole country is still less than 2000
Because very few non-military Americans live there and the military ones are utter trogladytes.

>>17885810 (OP)
The reversal is already happening.
Quietly, in the upper circles where decisions are actually made.
But the days of mass immigration multiculturalism are over, regardless of who the figurehead is.
It is a hindrance to GDP now, not a boon. That is all that needed to change. Political will is irrelevant.

>>17888206
>But the days of mass immigration multiculturalism are over, regardless of who the figurehead is.
Says who?
>It is a hindrance to GDP now, not a boon. That is all that needed to change. Political will is irrelevant.
So you're asspulling.

>>17886445
Temporarily, by now they have fallen behind again, while op's shitty meme implies that Japan surpassed Europe in recent years due to AI, when the opposite is true.

>>17888206
Mass immigration is good, multiculturalism is bad. Assimilationism is the way.

>>17888410
Define "multiculturalism" and "assimilation".

>>17888206
two more weeks senpai
donardu-sama will fix everything

>>17888503
>>17888206
>based low reading comp score
If you read what he said it isn't about trump. Trump image was likely bait.

>>17888206
yes but for different reasons.
it was as silly idea to begin with but historically irish and italian immigrants turned communist/anarchist.

that hasn't worked out with latinos

>>17885810 (OP)
>ai and robotics
Japan is a literal non-entity in either of these, and Germany, with a much lower population and treated much harsher, has a higher GDP

>>17888410
>Mass immigration is good
No, Latin America, Central Asia and South Africa are proof of this.
Miscegenation only creates third-worlders

>>17888410
There is no incentive to assimilate if immigration is done at a mass scale. Mass immigration and assimilation are competing concepts. This is how Texas became de facto American even under Mexican ownership. Coolidge restricted immigration even from white nations so Italians could go from annoying scamming thugs to simply thuggish patriots. Even then their ethnic enclave demands to identify as Italian and lightly competes with other cultures for dominance in some small corners to this day.

What reality are you posting from, weeb-kun?

Here's the reality:
Japan is being flooded by Jeets of various kinds (India, Nepal mostly) as we speak.

Japan has one of the lowest productivities per hour amongst the OECD They have living standards a tad below the French while working FAR longer for it.

The countryside dying out means everyone flocks to a few big cities where people live in very cramped apartments and endure long commutes.

Old age poverty is far higher than OECD average, as they lack the young to support higher payouts.

Japan is has Greece-tier government debt (250% per capita), which looks increasingly hopeless and therefore makes the Yen drop in value. Japan imports lots of stuff like fruit, vegetables, properly sized cars, building materials, which became very expensive for locals.

And Japans downfall started exactly when their demographics went down the shitter, you may argue there's a correlation.

To be fair, a lot of things about Japan are great, to this day, but they never "recovered" or "surpassed" anyone. They peaked 1990, when they were at the top of the world, and went downhill since then.

Also, Japan of all places increasingly opening up for immigrants is a sign of their absolute desperation. They hate foreigners, especially brown-skinned ones with a passion, they still do, but government & corporate overlords force the Japanese to swallow their pride, as they're endangered by civilisation collapse otherwise.