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Anonymous No.17887825 >>17887852 >>17887874 >>17887878 >>17888133 >>17889338 >>17891560 >>17892647 >>17893135 >>17893203
why were old methods of torture so gruesome?
what the actual fuck was wrong with them
Anonymous No.17887852 >>17887871
>>17887825 (OP)
humans were not that different from animals in a psychological perspective
we like to find creative ways to harm people to assert our dominance
Anonymous No.17887871 >>17887872
>>17887852
t. brown person
Anonymous No.17887872 >>17889068 >>17891441 >>17892946
>>17887871
Most of these torture devices were pioneered in europe
Simon Salva !tMhYkwTORI No.17887874 >>17894123
>>17887825 (OP)

Paganism.
Anonymous No.17887878
>>17887825 (OP)
Power theater. Pre-modern torture was a spectacle. Crush dissent, entertain the masses, and remind everyone who's boss.
Anonymous No.17888133
>>17887825 (OP)
Forensics were shit and the only way to condem somebody was to get a confession out of them (or having the accountsof witnesses). Now, how do you produce such a confession?
Anonymous No.17889056
Europeans and chinks are the same race
Anonymous No.17889068 >>17889074 >>17891594 >>17891757
>>17887872
Chinese torture was arguably the worst. In general, what Chinese did to one another within the same ethnicity was the worst.
Anonymous No.17889074 >>17889076
>>17889068
>heh brown peepo
"these are from Europe actually"
>BUT CHINA
embarrassing
Anonymous No.17889076 >>17891485
>>17889074
Whim are you quoting schizoid
Anonymous No.17889338 >>17889750
>>17887825 (OP)
I imagine one of the reasons was because investigative and law enforcement techniques were so nonexistent that they needed some kind of deterrent to prevent crime and torture/public executions was one of those deterrents. People knew that while they were unlikely to be caught committing a crime, on the offchance that they did, they would REALLY regret it
Anonymous No.17889343 >>17889346
Some people are sadists or brutes.
Simon Salva !tMhYkwTORI No.17889346 >>17894068
>>17889343

A.k.a. pagans.
Anonymous No.17889750 >>17891536 >>17891723
>>17889338
Yeah i feel like this one is the most realistic reply
The least gruesome old punishment i remember is being expelled from your community
Other than that it was all awful stuff such as the bronze bull
Anonymous No.17890304
A torture method that I think is particularly gruesome was the Chinese water torture method. You might have seen it on TV, where escapologists would be bound inside a glass cabinet filled with water, and miraculously escape.
Anonymous No.17891441 >>17892637
>>17887872
by whom?
Anonymous No.17891485
>>17889076
dont even try to be evasive about it, you did lose that one
Anonymous No.17891536
>>17889750
Imagine being told to leave the only town you've ever known, all the people you have ever known, and just go find somewhere else to live. Would suck desu
Anonymous No.17891560
>>17887825 (OP)
Call it crusade, jihad, dharam yudh, whatever. But that internal war must be waged within each human heart for as long as the species exists. Ravan resides in each of us, that antediluvian cruelty and sadism which we are all capable of. But Ram is in there too, and each one of us is a Hanuman even if we have forgotten it. If enough of us win that struggle for our own hearts, cruelty and hate will fade away from this world and all these horrors will be only the vaguest memories of bad dreams.
Anonymous No.17891594 >>17891761
>>17889068
>Chinese torture was arguably the worst. In general, what Chinese did to one another within the same ethnicity was the worst.
In China, it was considered an honor to have your COCK AND BALLS removed so that you could become a well-dressed and well-fed slave. Nevermind that your life had effectively no purpose now as you could never experience love, had numerous developmental ailments, and had to keep a tiny tube stuffed in your piss hole so it wouldn’t seal up and kill you. The honor to serve nobility as a wagie with no purpose and not die of starvation was considered a blessing.

Basically, men were just tools to society, and you should be grateful of whatever miserable lot you are assigned for the greater good of “le society” (the same society that literally condoned removing your manhood from the jump). Many families would offer their sons up to be emasculated so their son’s new status could raise the whole family out of poverty.
>We cut off your junk, son. Now give us your money.
>Thank you for sacrificing your humanity so that we can financially benefit off your suffering.
Truly just a rotten mentality all around, and it makes you wonder how those cucks got convinced to labor to uphold the society that literally destroyed their lives. Somehow, these men found the motivation to conquer society repeatedly.
Anonymous No.17891607 >>17891748 >>17892641 >>17893146
Empathy is a high-IQ trait. I’d would argue you probably need an IQ above 110 to feel it at all. Most of the world even today is not that high. Back then, with poor nutrition and such, even very few white people were that high.

Most people do not feel empathy. Most people do not care about others whatsoever. Like if they saw someone on fire, they’d panic, but that feeling of
>I can imagine how terrible that must be for that other person
Isn’t there because it’s too complex of an emotion for their unsophisticated brain. They’re just incapable of it.

I spent a long time caring about others, and the feeling was never reciprocated. Is started to realize that not only does nobody give a fuck, but they’re literally mentally incapable of giving a fuck. Like the story of the Good Samaritan. Most people who passed a dying man on the road would feel nothing at all.
Anonymous No.17891723
>>17889750
That was basically a death sentence. Whoever you wronged is gonna fuck your shit up if you stay around and highwaymen are living in every bush on the road to the next town (no ones going to give you a job anyways cause you dont have anyone to vouch for you)
Anonymous No.17891748 >>17893146
>>17891607
That's false. Literal retards can be caring and kind. Empathy is common in some animals too.
Anonymous No.17891757
>>17889068
prove it

don't just do the western golem thing
Anonymous No.17891761
>>17891594
castration and eunuchs were also a huge part in greece/rome and other european countries

you even castrated boys just so they can sing your jew worship church choir better
Anonymous No.17892628
this is terrifying holy fuck
Anonymous No.17892637
>>17891441
Idk, but if I take the time to look it up I guarantee not even half of the inventors of these contraptions would be jews. Rent free.
Anonymous No.17892641 >>17892824 >>17894580
>>17891607
The most psychopathic people on Earth are almost always high IQ. kill yourself freak we need another purge Pol Pot style.
Anonymous No.17892647
>>17887825 (OP)
Like what? Torture was heavily regulated and torturers/hangmen had specialized training so they would and could apply torture, always supervised, according to the local law in order to minimize the risk of long term effects or death. This is true for all societies that practiced torture.
It was gruesome because it was supposed to coerce a confession or testimony that could then be used in court. On the other hand it wasnt used lightly and reserved for serious offenses.
Anonymous No.17892824 >>17893990
>>17892641
Nope

Narcissists and psycho/sociopaths cap out at 110 IQ or something. Smart enough to understand game theory but not smart enough to realize cooperation drives civilization.
Anonymous No.17892946
>>17887872
Most documented
Anonymous No.17893135
>>17887825 (OP)
>nooo you cant just punish the evil pedophile murderer you have to give him free housing and free nutritious food
what the fuck is wrong with you?
Anonymous No.17893146
>>17891607
>>17891748
not to get political but there are instances in Europe when women oppose the deportation of not just rapists but their own rapists
Anonymous No.17893203
>>17887825 (OP)
Weak rule of law, mostly. The lower the conviction rate for crimes, the harsher penalties have to be in order to have a deterrent effect. In the middle ages, you were virtually guaranteed to get away with a crime unless you were literally caught in the act, so when the authorities did manage to catch someone, they sought to make an example of them via torture and public execution.
Anonymous No.17893990
>>17892824
You are almost certainly sub-80IQ. Psychopaths are well aware that cooperation drives civilization. That's why they're do good at maneuvering their social relationships with emotional retards who are basically soulless in the eyes of the power hungry psycho.
Anonymous No.17894068
>>17889346
>8 million gods in Shinto
>calls other people pagans
Least retarded Salva moment
Anonymous No.17894123
>>17887874
>FIle name says Inquisitor Palace Birgu
>Look it up
>It's in Malta
Simon Salva and being wrong, a winning combination.
Anonymous No.17894580
>>17892641
That would be frightening if that's the case, right now it's believed a huge proportion of them are in or have been in jail. Most of the jailed psychopaths do not have high IQs. But I looked at psychopath subreddits (yeah that's right, I'm going to space this post too probably) and the bulk of them, 20% of whom I'm assuming are diagnosed, seem to be sharp/cunning and contemptuous of tomfoolery and people they deem stupid.

Know a guy exactly like that. High IQ + contempt for humanity can at least mirror psychopathy. High IQ + (ASD - etiquette/composure difficulties) looks exactly like what most people mean when they use the term as far as I can tell.

The guy I have in mind also has repeatedly confided in me that he's never felt love, despite really going out of his way to mimic it with women in his life.

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