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Anonymous No.17888451 >>17888583 >>17888596 >>17888654 >>17889321 >>17889335 >>17891055 >>17895972
"Mysteriously" drowns in Nile after growing out of his femboy phase
Anonymous No.17888513 >>17888567 >>17889389
He got boypreggers and just needed a boybortion
Anonymous No.17888567 >>17892618
>>17888513
Or Hadrian needed a new, younger boytoy
Anonymous No.17888583 >>17888605 >>17889568 >>17892657
>>17888451 (OP)
There is actually no contemporary source indicating a homosexual relationship with Hadrian. The contemporary sources suggest that he was a member of Hadrian's hunting crew who volunteered to sacrifice himself in an Egyptian immortality ritual for Hadrian
Anonymous No.17888596 >>17888597 >>17889019
>>17888451 (OP)
I don't understand why Hadrian isn't hated by right-wingers.
1.He was a total faggot, maybe pederast even.
2.He basically created ashkenazi jews.
Anonymous No.17888597 >>17888605
>>17888596
>1.He was a total faggot, maybe pederast even.
He was a pederast, which was socially acceptable, and he wasn't a total faggot.
Anonymous No.17888605 >>17888618 >>17889393
>>17888583
>>17888597
>"of the first fifteen emperors Claudius was the only one whose taste in love was entirely correct" - Gibbon
If we retroactively apply modern labels, the majority of these emperors were certainly at least bisexual
Anonymous No.17888618 >>17888648
>>17888605
What?! I thought Augustus was 100% normal...
Anonymous No.17888648 >>17888652 >>17889331 >>17892550
>>17888618
Gibbon had Victorian morals. Augustus was an adulterer who divorced wives just because he didn't like them. Allegedly he got bummed when he was a twink too, which was probably bullshit, though him having only one biological child despite living 75 years and access to any woman he could want points to him having "alternative tastes."
Anonymous No.17888652
>>17888648
*Georgian morals
Anonymous No.17888654 >>17889071 >>17889077
>>17888451 (OP)
Why are you attracted to men? Men are literally no attractive, objectively speaking. Their form has no beauty in it. The female form, on the other hand, is splendid.
Anonymous No.17889019
>>17888596
There was already a Jewish diaspora in Europe and Egypt before Hadrian destroyed their temple.
Anonymous No.17889071
>>17888654
Factually wrong. Burly hairy fat men are gross, but plenty of men are beautiful.
Anonymous No.17889077 >>17889089 >>17890342 >>17892657
>>17888654
A lot of homosexuals aren’t attracted to men. They’re pederasts attracted to young boys.
Anonymous No.17889089 >>17889436 >>17891493
>>17889077
Wrong. But tell me, who invented child marriage again?
Anonymous No.17889318
>>17888679
Do the mods even bother here anymore?
Anonymous No.17889321
>>17888451 (OP)
Literally the only source that suggests he was in an intimate relationship with Antinous is Historia Augusta. That's it.
Anonymous No.17889331
>>17888648
He was notoriously sickly and almost died several times because someone left a window open, it could be that he struggled with infertility and/or impotence. He kept his vices out in the open at the very least when it came to gambling and it is not like the Romans would have tried to hide stories of him raping slaves.
Anonymous No.17889335
>>17888451 (OP)
He drowned himself to get away from that old fag
Anonymous No.17889389 >>17889408 >>17889453 >>17890254
>>17888513
The BLACK sperm in the Mediterranean was too powerful. It destroyed the boysow's virginity, eviscerated his boihymen and dominated his boiuterus. Hatedrian (not a typo) just couldn't compete... Carthage was destroyed, but their BBCs still destabiized Rome...
Anonymous No.17889393 >>17890234
>>17888605
You failed to provide any actual primary source historical evidence, just a quote from some anglo faggot from 1800 years later
Simon Salva !tMhYkwTORI No.17889408 >>17890254
>>17889389

Based and true.
Anonymous No.17889436
>>17889089
Why would gay pedophiles develop a tradition of marriage? They can just move onto the next victim
Anonymous No.17889453 >>17889512 >>17893395
>>17889389
True words brother!
HANNIBVLL's body might be dead but his soul will torment the R*mans for eternity
Anonymous No.17889512
>>17889453
BBC is amazing and those DSLs are really something else.
i imagine if hannibal won, he would put his nation's lips to great use kissing and smooching pink r*man anuses.
historically speaking, what was the point of xylospongium when the senate could've imported BBC to serve the same purpose?
Anonymous No.17889568 >>17890339 >>17893222
>>17888583
Here are the ancient texts relating to Antinous:
https://greek-love.com/index.php/antiquity/anthologies/ancient-rome/hadrian-and-antinous

No contemporary text states in explicit terms that Hadrian had sex with Antinous, it is implied euphemistically. Everybody knew that Antinous was the lover of Hadrian. If you deny that he was in a sexual relationship with Hardian considering the historical record, and the context around his relationship with Hadrian, you are an obtuse retard.

And no contemporary source suggests that he voluntarily sacrificed himself, this was a rumour that developed much later.
Anonymous No.17890230
Daily reminder that all homosexuals, ALL homosexuals, are pedophiles. No exceptions.
Anonymous No.17890234
>>17889393
Gibbon was straight though. Anyway, I could provide all the primary sources in the world and you still wouldn't believe me because you're a deluded retard that has to warp history to fit your own retarded political neurosis. God forbid the ancients don't share your exact 21st century moral worldview.
Anonymous No.17890254
>>17889408
>catholic
>fantasizes about BBC
>loves little boys
pottery

I will never forget you updooted this >>17889389 post. You're finished, through, done. Might as well get a new name and trip and LARP as someone else at this point.
Anonymous No.17890339 >>17890364
>>17889568
That's not a reliable source anon
Anonymous No.17890342
>>17889077
That's not true. You just say that because you hate faggots.
Anonymous No.17890364 >>17890387 >>17890392
>>17890339
>That's not a reliable source anon
That page contains all ancient sources relating to Antinous, as well as ancient sources relating to Hadrian, which you would know had you bothered to read it.
Anonymous No.17890387 >>17890393 >>17890402 >>17890432
>>17890364
Didn't you just get your teeth kicked in for using bullshit sources, like this, in another thread on this topic but in Greece?
Anonymous No.17890392 >>17890393 >>17890397
>>17890364
>bullshit sources, like this
That webpage contains every ancient source which relates to Antinous, retard.
Anonymous No.17890393
>>17890392
meant for >>17890387
Anonymous No.17890397
>>17890392
Yeah and it's compiled by giant faggot pedophiles?
Anonymous No.17890402 >>17890406
>>17890387
>those ancient sources are bullshit, only my own personal headcanon and /pol/ infographs are reliable
Anonymous No.17890406 >>17890532
>>17890402
The website is literally called greek-love and is dedicated to describing the practice of pederasty, none of its language is neutral and the website has like 20 different trackers on it.
Anonymous No.17890432
>>17890387
Yes he did and it appears you already scared him off, the legacy of the BTFO is strong
Anonymous No.17890532 >>17890550
>>17890406
>none of its language is neutral
All of the language on that website is neutral.
Anonymous No.17890550 >>17890554
>>17890532
No it's not and you know it
Anonymous No.17890554 >>17890583
>>17890550
The language on that website is neutral, and it gives a fair and unbiased overview of the subject, and the term Greek love itself is a well known term from the 18th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_love
Anonymous No.17890583 >>17890590 >>17890593
>>17890554
>well known term
>18th century

anon the website is clearly basically entirely dedicated to defending pedophilia, linking it as a source which would honestly and faithfully transmit information about this topic in history is dishonest.
Anonymous No.17890590 >>17890610
>>17890583
So you mean to say the site doesn't exhibit your particular type of bias, so you'd rather just ignore it?
Anonymous No.17890593 >>17890610
>>17890583
>the website is clearly basically entirely dedicated to defending pedophilia
The website is clearly dedicated to presenting historical information about pederasty in a fair and unbiased manner which you have misconstrued as biased, as you would rather pretend that pederasty did not exist historically.
Anonymous No.17890610 >>17890789
>>17890590
The practice of Greek pederasty is objectively morally repugnant, this is not a new idea nor is stating this biased. Take the slave trade for example, another objectively morally repugnant characteristic of the ancient world, calling it that and documenting its presence with that in mind isn't bias. Making a website called greek-servitude with the home page hyper-linking to explanations of why slavery is actually totally cool and not at all what you think it is doesn't make me exactly enthused to read their narrative information on "examples" of the slave trade.

>>17890593
anything which portrays pederastic relationships in a positive light is inherently biased for the reasons mentioned above
Anonymous No.17890789 >>17890794
>>17890610
>The practice of Greek pederasty is objectively morally repugnant
No it isn't, this is your personal, subjective opinion.

>Take the slave trade for example, another objectively morally repugnant characteristic of the ancient world
This is a false equivalence, as pederastic relationships in Greece were not between men and unwilling boys, nor was the practice harmful, and in no sense should be considered morally repugnant.

>Making a website called greek-servitude with the home page hyper-linking to explanations of why slavery is actually totally cool
Slavery is totally cool, actually. As long as slaves aren't mistreated, it is perfectly moral. Ancient slavery was essentially a pre-modern form of welfare. But this doesn't matter anyway, as this was a false equivalence.

>anything which portrays pederastic relationships in a positive light is inherently biased for the reasons mentioned above
No, this is just your personal opinion. Also, the website in question presents a wide array of historical and cross-cultural sources relating to pederasty, whether these sources express neutral, positive, or negative sentiments towards the practice, which is as unbiased as you can be (they are not selectively presented, as you will claim without evidence). You take objection to the website because you are a historical revisionist who would rather pretend that the practice of pederasty was non-existent in the past. Also, the historical sources are unedited, and you can appreciate them while ignoring the editorial content.
Anonymous No.17890794 >>17890801 >>17890804
>>17890789
>No it isn't, this is your personal, subjective opinion.

>Slavery is totally cool, actually. As long as slaves aren't mistreated, it is perfectly moral

oh so you are just psychotic okay
Anonymous No.17890801 >>17890807 >>17890825
>>17890794
Chiming in on your conversation here: Is ancient slavery less psychotic than modern-day wageslavery? Almost 100% of the fruits of your labor are spent to keep yourself in a condition that allows you to keep working (rent, food, healthcare, stress reduction, car maintenance) and in taxes. If you don't play along with the rules, the cops (slavery enforcers) try to take you in and if you resist, they beat or kill you.
You're basically the property of the state and large corporations working as business partners.
Anonymous No.17890804 >>17890828 >>17890838 >>17891612
>>17890794
Yes, slavery can be a pro-social, eugenic, mutually beneficial institution, if it is done correctly. Only the unthinking man is reflexively anti-slavery:
>“We know the social condition of England would be infinitely better if the lowest laboring class were domestic slaves; for masters are always present, and infinitely more humane and generous than the overseers of the poor-houses. The whole weight of society falls upon the most feeble, indigent, weak, and ignorant laboring class. They are taxed alike by skill and capital. They are not only slaves alone to the property-holders, but slaves to lease-holders, professional men, merchants, artists, mechanics, in fact they are slaves to all above them; for all above them exploitate or tax them by exchanging a small amount of skilful labor for a large amount of common labor.”
– George Fitzhugh, Wealth and Poverty-Luxury and Economy

>those who are as different [from other men] as the soul from the body or man from beast—and they are in this state if their work is the use of the body, and if this is the best that can come from them—are slaves by nature. For them it is better to be ruled in accordance with this sort of rule, if such is the case for the other things mentioned.
– Aristotle
Anonymous No.17890807 >>17890828
>>17890801
>Is ancient slavery less psychotic than modern-day wageslavery?
It wasn't. People will point towards the fact that they had less rights, or the fact that they had lower living standards than modern wageslaves to argue that ancient slavery was worse than modern wageslavery, but these are factors unrelated to enslavement, as all classes of people in ancient times had fewer rights and lower standards of living.
Anonymous No.17890825 >>17891019
>>17890801
Wage slaves are paid a wage and generally cannot be beaten for disobeying. Working a normal job is rough sure, but you are afforded legal rights and protections insofar as your physical health is concerned, you also can quit for anytime and any reason. Slaves of antiquity were essentially non-persons, stateless entities that could be used in whatever way their master pleased. An anecdote which really encapsulates the horror of ancient slavery is what they did to the genitals of gladiators if the gladiator was viewed as to virile. It is almost too horrific to mention and I won't, but anyone who convinces you working a modern job is basically the same thing, is being dishonest.
Anonymous No.17890828
>>17890807
Slaves had no rights or protections.

>>17890804
more psychosis
Anonymous No.17890838
>>17890804
It definitely can bepro social. So on the case of the Ottomans, what happened was that the Turks reinvented the wheel on the ghazi and mamluk systems. They decided that instead of kidnapping and raising turkics as soldiers of their new army, they would instead kidnap and train strong vorile BBCs as they were in steady supply and they had endless sows to give up. The ottomans had a preference for timmies of female gender. It was a remarkable system since these BBCs would continue to be black bulls but they would also own businesses and what have you. Memluk system was highly discriminatory against BBCs
Anonymous No.17891019 >>17891588
>>17890825
>Wage slaves are paid a wage and generally cannot be beaten for disobeying
Difference between direct violence and institutional oppression.
>slaves didn't have legal rights
They gained some under Hadrian.
>non-persons then, persons now
Mainly a difference in rhetoric. Rich people still can and will win most trials simply by drowning their opponents in legal fees (or whatever you call that in english).

Can you explain the genital part in more detail?
Big Bongus !!9zfcclmmPlH No.17891055
>>17888451 (OP)
They went back in time and found his beauty marks
Anonymous No.17891493
>>17889089
Am I reading this right; there is a penile response to children in all adults tested?
Anonymous No.17891588 >>17891624
>>17891019
>Difference between direct violence and institutional oppression.

Is insanely massive

>They gained some under Hadrian.

Not really, nothing which would put them on par with a free man anyways, let alone a citizen. Hadrian also existed well after the peak of the Roman slave trade, aside from an influx during the Marcomannic wars it was mostly dried up by the 3rd century because of no new conquests.

>Rich people still can and will win most trials simply by drowning their opponents in legal fees

Corruption in the legal system and slavery are two entirely different cases. I don't know why you are bending over backwards with leftist epistemology to defend the faggot pedophile who wants to own slaves, unless leftists really are all just pedophiles in waiting.
Anonymous No.17891612
>>17890804
Ethical thought moved past slavery pretty early on into modernity and only had a brief relapse when we were too focused on the new world to keep Jewish inhumanity out of our back line.
Anonymous No.17891624 >>17892220
>>17891588
>leftist epistemology
Lol. I'd buy slaves and I'd fuck them, if I could. Now have a good cry about this.
Anonymous No.17892220 >>17892253
>>17891624
Cry? In all likelihood your cavalier and public attitudes about slavery and pedophilia will put you in chains far before anyone else. You should know by now absolutely nothing in this world is free, especially disregarding ethical standards entirely, these expectations and rules exist for more than just the delicate sensibilities of the law givers.
Anonymous No.17892253 >>17892312
>>17892220
uh oh looks like the schizophrenic christcuck troon is convinced everyone who responds to him is the "pedospammer" again
Anonymous No.17892312 >>17892469
>>17892253
what a strange world you must live in
Anonymous No.17892469 >>17892496
>>17892312
He's convinced everyone responding to him is the same person, and will accuse you of being that person should you be disgusted by him. What he seems not to realize is that these schizophrenic accusations reveal him to be exactly who he is trying to pretend not to be. He's quite a sad case really, making posts from his mother's basement at almost all hours of the day, only sleeping a few hours each night, and getting so decimated each time that he has to vanish for a week or two.

I understand his anger at God, to be born an impotent faggot with no pleasure other than the rape of children is a punishment all itself.
Anonymous No.17892496 >>17892505
>>17892469
The irony of this post.
Anonymous No.17892505
>>17892496
poor little pedophile faggot, gonna cry, you waste of human life?
Anonymous No.17892550 >>17892584
>>17888648
actually its almost the opposite in that livia was infertile but he was too attached to livia to divorce her. That being said though he did have lots of affairs, ironically so given his morality laws.
Anonymous No.17892584 >>17893861
>>17892550
Livia had children. Augustus was just shooting blanks, probably had a narrow uretey.
Anonymous No.17892613 >>17892626 >>17892715
I think Hadrian is a faggot not because he liked fucking twinks in their poop chutes but because he abandoned Trajan's eastern conquests.

>B-but it wasn't worth it! It would have been hard/expensive to maintain!
And you know this how? Why could retards from the Arabian desert manage to run and maintain an empire, in one form or another, from the edge of Africa to Persia but arguably the most powerful state in the world at its zenith couldn't? All that really would have happened would have been them realizing the need for two emperors a little sooner and the east/west division happens earlier. The argument seems to be that we just have to accept it's impossible because Hadrian said it was when the guy he replaced, who was a far better ruler, military man and administrator and the 1b to Augustus' 1a, certainly didn't seem to think that.
Anonymous No.17892618
>>17888567
they just got too confident and picked the wrong man to fuck with
Anonymous No.17892626
>>17892613
>Trajan's eastern conquests
It was already falling apart while Trajan was still alive.
Anonymous No.17892657 >>17892660
>>17888583
Surely he was so obsessed with this totally not-lover of him that he dedicated an entire fucking cult to him after his death, in a totally not homosexual way in order to comply with your pointless contrarian views on hating anything related to faggotry.
>>17889077
True for 4chan, but everywhere else most homosexuals are turbobottoms who would recoil at the idea.
Anonymous No.17892660 >>17892665
>>17892657
Whats implicitly gay about a cult?
Anonymous No.17892665 >>17892669 >>17892690 >>17893163 >>17893193
>>17892660
Would you dedicate a whole cult to a guy younger than you after his death because he was so very special for you?
Anonymous No.17892669 >>17892703
>>17892665
What?
Anonymous No.17892690
>>17892665
Would I dedicate a cult to my friend who died if I literally believed that my apotheosis was assured upon my death? Yeah probably.
Anonymous No.17892703 >>17892710 >>17892842
>>17892669
Nigger I do not need to explain how my question relates to the discussion, it should be obvious. If you cannot possibly understand it please refrain from further posting.
Anonymous No.17892710 >>17892720
>>17892703
Just answer the question.
Anonymous No.17892715
>>17892613
Persia always proved to be insurmountable, the way to finish off the Parthians and later Sassanids was to relocate pretty much the entire Roman army to the east and march all the way until you hit a good enough geographical feature to stop. During the late republic was probably when Rome had the best chance of being able to pull this off as they didn't have to worry much about the Rhine/Danube or Britain. They tried twice but collapsed into civil war both times, not necessarily as a consequence, but that shifted focus elsewhere for a long time. By the time Romans got it in their heads to go east they had a lot more obligations and Persia had re-consolidated their grip on the far east.
Anonymous No.17892720 >>17893185
>>17892710
Yeah don't expect him to be anything other than a screeching faggot when you don't entertain his delusions, the hate he gets is very much deserved.
Anonymous No.17892842 >>17893185
>>17892703
What a whiny faggot you are
Anonymous No.17893163 >>17893185
>>17892665
I genuinely hope you never know peace, you utterly disgusting faggot.
Anonymous No.17893185 >>17893188
>>17892720
>>17892842
>>17893163
Cry.
Anonymous No.17893188
>>17893185
stupid faggot
Anonymous No.17893193 >>17893208 >>17893222
>>17892665
>faggot doesn't understand basic cultural practices
let me guess you're conveniently illiterate when you choose too
Anonymous No.17893208 >>17893211
>>17893193
Exactly anon, the stupid faggot choses when he understands the words spoken to him. He is a miserable disgusting faggot and wears his heart on his sleeve in the respect, it doesn't make him any less pathetic.
Anonymous No.17893211 >>17893215 >>17893222
>>17893208
all faggots are this way, it's part of faggot philosophy. To call them delusional is an understatement, they're driven by faith in their own homosexuality and believe there's a global conspiracy hiding all the fags in history
Anonymous No.17893215
>>17893211
What repulsive creatures
Anonymous No.17893222 >>17893228 >>17893231 >>17893281
>>17893193
Anon, Antinous was the homosexual lover of Hadrian. Virtually all historians agree upon this fact, based on the available historical and archaeological evidence relating to him.

>Antinous, also called Antinoös, (/ænˈtJnoʊʌs/; Ancient Greek: Ἀντίνοος; c.111 – c.130) was a Greek youth from Bithynia, a favourite and lover of the Roman emperor Hadrian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinous

You seem to have a difficult time understanding the cultural practice of pederasty, and appreciating the fact that this was viewed as a valid and accepted form of relationship in many past cultures, including Rome. You can read ancient sources relating to Antinous, and his homosexual relationship with Hardian here: >>17889568

>>17893211
>and believe there's a global conspiracy hiding all the fags in history
But there isn't. Virtually every credible historian agrees that Antinous was the lover of Hadrian. You are the one who believes there is some sort of conspiracy dedicated to lying about historical figures being homosexuals, likely because you are homophobic and don't like the idea of respectable historical figures being homosexuals.
Anonymous No.17893228 >>17893232
>>17893222
You vile disgusting faggot, trying to quote wikipedia to hide now? Don't you know that your information is already available?
Anonymous No.17893231
>>17893222
>Virtually every credible historian agrees that Antinous was the lover of Hadria

Historia Augusta is the only source to say so
Anonymous No.17893232 >>17893237 >>17893743
>>17893228
Getting this angry upon hearing about historical facts isn't healthy.
Anonymous No.17893237
>>17893232
you should tell your parents how you feel about little children
Anonymous No.17893243 >>17893253 >>17893270
>Hadrian was gay
>but we have no first hand accounts from people who were actually there, just hearsay and gossip from plebs who lived after the fact
>also this is the only lover we know of
Why do (((historians))) try to shill this nonsense so hard?
Anonymous No.17893253 >>17893270
>>17893243
Jew love fucking children, is it any surprise they would transpose their own worst characteristics on to the guy who accidentally wiped them out? They decided to call the Third Reich a "Nazi" government after all.
Anonymous No.17893270 >>17893273 >>17893274
>>17893243
>but we have no first hand accounts from people who were actually there
This is virtually all ancient history.

>>17893253
Jews abhor homosexuality, and proscribe it under punishment of death in their Torah.
Anonymous No.17893273 >>17893279
>>17893270
so you have no evidence?
Anonymous No.17893274 >>17893279
>>17893270
Your talmud is quite gracious to those who fornicate with men, so long as they under the age of 9.
Anonymous No.17893279 >>17893286 >>17893288 >>17893328
>>17893273
Well, not for you, as you have an unreasonably high standard of evidence, engage in selective skepticism, aren't engaging in this thread in good faith, and are motivated by emotion rather than reason, but other readers of this thread will come to the obvious conclusion by reading the sources already posted.

>>17893274
I don't think you understand the Talmud.
Anonymous No.17893281
>>17893222
>Virtually all historians agree
Anonymous No.17893286
>>17893279
>I don't think you understand the Talmud

enlighten us, schlomo
Anonymous No.17893288 >>17893322
>>17893279
So you have no contemporaneous evidence
Anonymous No.17893322 >>17893331 >>17893347 >>17894511
>>17893288
The fact that there isn't a contemporary text stating in clear terms that they were in a sexual relationship does not mean that the historical record does not support the fact that they were in a sexual relationship. There is a reason why serious historians universally agree that they were lovers.

There is also no contemporaneous evidence stating that they were in the type of relationship which I assume you believe them to have been in, as this is your own personal interpretation, based on your own misunderstanding of historical context and customs.
Anonymous No.17893328
>>17893279
How come he had only one boyfriend?
Anonymous No.17893331 >>17893346
>>17893322
"lover" in greek culture doesn't mean sex you blown out asshole
Anonymous No.17893346 >>17893349 >>17893352
>>17893331
Hadrian wasn't Greek. I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about.
Anonymous No.17893347 >>17893364
>>17893322
>The fact that there isn't a contemporary text stating in clear terms that they were in a sexual relationship does not mean that the historical record does not support the fact that they were in a sexual relationship.
So you admit its all just circumstantial speculation.
Anonymous No.17893349
>>17893346
Hadrian was a notorious greekaboo which is why he grew a beard and hung out with young boys/men.
This is common knowledge, come on now.
Anonymous No.17893352
>>17893346
>hadrian wasn't greek so greek "lover" means poop hole fucking because he wasn't ethnically greek or something
yeah?
Anonymous No.17893364 >>17893386
>>17893347
>So you admit its all just circumstantial speculation.
No, that isn't what I stated at all. I think /pol/ might be a board more suited for you than /his/, since you lack any understanding of basic historical methodology, and are more interested in promoting bigotry than actually discussing history.
Anonymous No.17893386 >>17893389
>>17893364
>understanding of basic historical methodology
Enlighten us.
Anonymous No.17893389
>>17893386
jerking off to gay porn while reading gay fanfiction about hadrian
Anonymous No.17893395 >>17893488
>>17889453
Hannibal looked more like an arab than a zinji nigger
Anonymous No.17893488
>>17893395
We wuz Phoencians n sheeet
Anonymous No.17893743
>>17893232
it's not a historical fact
more like an allusion or allegation
Anonymous No.17893861
>>17892584
Sorry I forgot to say that she BECAME infertile after some sort of mishap
Anonymous No.17894511 >>17894517
>>17893322
>does not mean that the historical record does not support the fact that they were in a sexual relationship.

Historia Augusta is one of the only sources to allege that he was a homosexual, literally no other source does. It was written in the 5th century and is well known to be mostly bullshit, there is no historical narrative that insinuates Hadrian's homosexuality other than this text.
Anonymous No.17894517 >>17894538 >>17894624
>>17894511
>Historia Augusta is one of the only sources to allege that he was a homosexual, literally no other source does
No, this isn't true. You haven't actually bothered to read any historical sources if you believe this is the case.
Anonymous No.17894538
>>17894517
calling somebody a poofta and legally accusing somebody of being a homosexual were two different things
Anonymous No.17894624 >>17894632
>>17894517
>The fact that there isn't a contemporary text stating in clear terms that they were in a sexual relationship

>No, this isn't true. You haven't actually bothered to read any historical sources if you believe this is the case.

the faggot contradicts in himself, lmao, stupid faggot
Anonymous No.17894632 >>17894649
>>17894624
No, those aren't contradictory statements.
Anonymous No.17894649
>>17894632
>professor schlomostein said so you stupid CHUD

cope harder faggot
Anonymous No.17895972
>>17888451 (OP)
Does anyone else find it funny most of the 4 GOOD EMPERORS were bi or gay?