>One of the most incompetent military commanders in British history
>Responsible for hundreds of thousands of Britons being sent to pointless deaths, to attack pointless targets
>Many innocent civilians were incinerated in the attacks of non-military targets
>The fiasco of HMS Prince of Wales and Singapore which is 100% Churchill's fault; he overruled the military and sent all those men and materiel to the bottom of the sea for no reason, without a second thought
>Pawned off the entire British empire, complete with gold reserves gathered over hundreds of years, to the Americans - who then bankrupted Britain with war reparations
>While Stalin got lend-lease FOR FREE
>Notorious for sending out "defend to the last man" orders when it was utterly pointless (e.g., Singapore again), and would lead to pointless slaughter
>Very generous with the lives of other people
>Was also drafting "resistance at any cost" plans to defend the British isles with suicide bombers
>Again, he would not be the one suicide bombing anyone
>Churchill's contribution to history is refusing to talk peace with Hitler under any circumstances (that's the most important thing he did)
>But just about every single time he intervened in military matters - he overruled competent people and caused unnecessary slaughter on both sides
>Outright ordered the bombing of innocent civilian housing instead of industrial targets
>Appointed a guy whose main contribution to the war was trying to cancel radar research
>Operation Vegetarian
>Operation Unthinkable

>>17890143 (OP)
He is the savior of Poland. Please don't insult him

>>17890143 (OP)
KWAB.

>>17890416
Here we see a denizen of the Warsaw pact using an ape-man, a distant cousin of his, to attack the phantom of Germany.
Fascinating.
Hold onto your iron crossed and America first hats my fellow Chuds, the black ones we can spot, it’s the White passing animals we need to be wary of. Typically identified easily once they open their mouth and say something in defense of niggers or liberal pedophilia. You can identify the polish subtype by its inability to speak English properly while the shitlib subtype will be well spoken though completely impotent intellectually.

the real redpill is he was a self hating englishman that wanted to be american he was a half breed mutt

>>17890143 (OP)
He needed to commit to operation vegetarian.
Fat fuck

>>17890452
LARP. Fuentes is a gay latinx faggot

>>17890452
>muh librulz
Liberalism won. Neo Nazis are all convicted felons or meth addicts on the sex offender registry

>>17890143 (OP)
>>17890442
>>17890452

>>17890452
Good post

>>17890143 (OP)
He was probably the second worst military leaders of ww2, the first obviouly being Stalin.
Stalin gave by far the most catastrophic orders of the war that resulted in entire Soviet armies being annihilated especially in the summer and winter counter-offensives of 1941, while ignoring advice and intel which enabled Barbarossa to begin with. His reedeming qualities was that be began listening to his generals and gave them more freedom of authority later.
I guess his purges pre-ww2 also adds into his list of fuckups in the war itself.

The reason Churchill is the second worst (yes ahead of Musssolini), is because Churchill gave a great number of catastrophic orders that were primarily motivated for his own politicial reasons. The British had essentially won the North Africa campaign in 1941 after Operation Compass, and Connor was about to capture Tripoli, but then Churchill stripped the entire 8th army and sent everything to Greece, knowing Greece couldnt be held. The Britih evacuated almost as soon as they landed, and left all their heavy equiptment behind (again), which gave DAK under Rommel the perfect conditions to recapture all of Lybia. Because of this decision, the Commonwealth forces had to endure another 2 years of war for Africa.

Then you have the Battle for Gazala, which can also be attributed to Churchill because he kept ordering his generals to attack when they werent ready (because Churchill needed a victory bad to stay in power, the parlament had already issued a vote-of-no-confidence in 1942). Churchill then pressured the 8th army to hold Tobruk as Gazala collapsed (when it should have been evacuated) which resulted in Britains second most disastrious surrender.

He also tried to sack general Wavell for winning in East Africa, because Wavell went against Churchills orders for a reckless immediate attack, and intead Wavell actually took his time to carefully coordinate the campaign and conclude it with as few British losses as possible.

>>17890143 (OP)
So Hitler lost to someone that incompetent? Sounds like Hitler was retarded.

>>17891747
>He also tried to sack general Wavell for winning in East Africa, because Wavell went against Churchills orders for a reckless immediate attack, and intead Wavell actually took his time to carefully coordinate the campaign and conclude it with as few British losses as possible.
So Wavell is basically the British McClellan and Churchill is the British Lincoln.

>>17891011
The Brits lost 50.000 Pilots, each of which costed at least a whole company of grenadiers in terms of training and costs and failed to actually decrease German Wartime production. Even the death toll of German civilians was pathetically small, the Nazis had to inflate them to give them actually weight and use them as a propaganda effort.

Find a better anti nazi Hero, Nafo troon. The Soviets should offer plenty. Harris was a loser who failed at the one job he had.

>>17891759
Are you retarded? The Brits for the vast majority of the war only fought a fraction of the German Military. Most Germans died on the Eastern Front and despite dominating the Germans in the skies and Sea Britain struggled against a German and Italian Token Force in Africa and was unable to launch any actual significant Offensive into Europe until the Americans arrived.

>>17891763
There was absolutely a large death toll of civilians in Hamburg and Dresden.
The Harris posters aren't English though. I imagine most of them are Poles who simp for England

>>17891766
>tranime
>it's a retarded post
Every time. I don't remember Hitler winning the war, faggot.

>>17891763
Bomber "Based" Harris succeeded in massacring n*zoids

>>17891762
Wavell has definetly been done dirty by history, largely because Churchill spent most of his time during the war and especially after the war, blaming everyone but himself.
He gave Wavell the absolutely worst cards possible to achieve any victory (and robbed him once he had achieved victory).

It's quite insane when you realize that Churchill made Wavell commander of the East Africa theater, commander of the Middle East theater, and commander of the North Africa theater etc. It wasnt until Montgomery that Churchill decided that maybe its better to just let his commander focus on winning North Africa.

>>17891768
500.000 are the highest estimates. This is not much, trading 10 civilian for a single pilot is a terrible trade-off, even 10 actual soldiers couldn't even get close amounting to the value of a single skilled pilot. There is a reason Arthur Harris was bestowed the title of a Butcher and it didn't come from the Germans.

And Poles from my experience are too nationalistic to admire the accomplishments of any nation besides themselves. They are even so desperate to glorify their failed uprising of 1944 (despite losing to a bunch of drunk foreigners, third rate police and wehrmacht units and penal battalions led by a pedophile), Arthur Harris only gets recognition from Nafo troons because he is the political acceptable edgy ww2 Commander for these shitlibs.

>>17891770
>tranime
Kill yourself, retarded tourist.

>unrelated Argument
Haven't made the case. Despite my choice of avatarfagging, I'm not a Wehraboofag, in fact I found quite the liking for the Soviets, but that's besiees the point. I never made the case that Hitler was even close to winning the war, now engange with my arguments or commit an early 41%, nafoid.

>>17891785
>um achckyually if you look at the stats...
No one cares, nigger, the nazis lost

>>17891776
He was shitty at that, despite facing an adversary as a skeleton of an air force and the Germans being occupied with the Soviets, he only killed a meager number of 500.000 Civilians at the cost of 50.000 (well trained and expensive) Pilots. The Soviets inflicted at least 5 times the number with outdated rifles while being drunk on Vodka.

The only people who glorify this overglorified Armchair commander of a retard are wannabe edgy troons who are too afraid to actually surpass social conventions of edginess.

>>17891793
Yes, against the Soviets. You britbongs did as much shit as the ragtag partisans in Yugoslavia despite money and resoucrs being shoved en masse from behind and your front by American aid. Kys, you niggers are precisly the Reason why Nazi ideology was bullshit. You were much more worthy of being considered Subhuman than any Slavic person.

>>17891785
>500.000 are the highest estimates.
Half which are technically owed to the Americans.

>trading 10 civilian for a single pilot is a terrible trade-off
People seem to think that the bombing campaign was about killing civilians. It wasnt.
In fact the allies tried to pretend that there were no civilian caualties since the entire strategy on paper was labeled "de-housing", they wanted to destroy cities as the economic centers of the country, but to do so they had to disregard the idea of civilian casualties.

The bombing campaign was actually extremely successful. It is estimated that 30% of German armament was destroyed/delayed because of the bombing campaign, and 98% of their synthetic oil production.
Meanwhile Germany had to spend nearly half of its ENTIRE munition production on single engine aircrafts, specifically to defend German airspace for allied bombing campaign.
They also spend roughly 10% of their entire munition production on AA-guns, again to specifically defend their cities. These flak-88s would have made a major difference on the eastern front without the allied bombing.

Basically, just as much German armament was destroyed in their production line as were destroyed on the field of battle.

>>17891811
>People seem to think that the bombing campaign was about killing civilians. It wasnt.
In October 1943, emboldened by his success in Hamburg and increasingly irritated with Churchill's hesitance to endorse his tactics wholeheartedly, Harris urged the government to be honest with the public regarding the purpose of the bombing campaign,

The aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive ... should be unambiguously stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany ... the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories.

>>17891785
>Poles from my experience are too nationalistic to admire the accomplishments of any nation besides themselves
Poles live vicariously through the English. I don't understand it but they do

>>17891807
You are avatarfagging with anime girls, and somehow jacking off both the nazis and soviets, you have no dignity or real beliefs and are between the ages of 14-18. Understand that an online esthetic is not the same as knowing anyting abut real history

>>17891807
Anti-Anglo nonsense is a Russian invention. It was the Russians not the Anglos who eradicated the Eastern Germans. Anglos are probably the only reason Germany wasn't fully genocided

80 years later and stormfags are still seething

>>17891763
>Harris was a loser who failed at the one job he had.
He was more successful at buckbreaking the Germans than the Soviets.
In both WWI and the Eastern Front of WWII, the average German didn't really have any idea what was going on; they didn't experience the war outside of the standard food shortages, thus they were later easily deceived into
>uhh actually we won all battles but da jooos betrayed us and that's why we lost
All of this changed when the average German civilian saw literally thousands of bombers flying above German cities day and night. All of the propaganda about Aryan superhumans conquering the world was brutally exposed, avarge German could at least see the truth on how brutally outmatched they were in this war. Another "stab in the back myth" would not be possible.
And so I say, the long peace in Europe after 1945? You can all thank Harris for it.

>>17891785
Also, the allies had a near 4:1 kill ratio over German skies against the Luftwaffe. The entire point of conducting day-light bombing was to draw out the Luftwaffe into combat so it could be destroyed, and it was every time.
Sometimes the allied kill-ratio against the German airforce would be even higher.

>>17891837
Ok but when is Poland going to pay back its EU funds

>>17891800
>The Soviets inflicted at least 5 times the number
Yeah, at the cost of 30 million of their own lol.

>>17891807
>Anglos were much more worthy of being considered Subhuman than any Slavic person
You're a naiive fool if you think this. The English might have been arrogant sociopaths but at least their arrogance was somewhat deserved. What have Slavs ever accomplished to deserve their arrogance?

This thread makes no sense. The British entered the war under the delusion that they were fighting Tartar mongoloids. The actual Tartar invaders were being harbored by the Soviets in the Tatar ASSR, a Tartar ethnostate built on stolen European land. Some were also being harbored in Poland-Lithuania which ignited Hitlers righteous campaign against the Soviet-Tartar hordes. It is unfortunate that the British were confused into attacking their own allies, a move that massively delayed the eventual extinction of the Tartars-Moguls.

>>17891860
No one cares about Tartars schizo. The war was between Germanics and Russians. The English were still stupid for siding with the Russians

>>17891811
I have beliefs, altough less of an ideology and more of a dogmatic list of morals. However, most of them are not relevant by any capacity for this particular thread, I'm just here on behalf of my own entertainment. And to make things clear, because you are arguing against a strawman of me who doesn't exist:

I just like this particular Anime girl, her demeanor from the anime she orginates from makes me feel nostalgic, that's it. I don't find her sexy, I have no attraction towards her.

Next, my respect to the Red army only extends to their capabilities as a fighting force, after all they defeated Germany and belittling them would contradict my beliefs. However, Ideologically or culturally they bear no relevance to my life, just like the Wehrmacht. I'm not a tankie, Wehraboo or any other kind of Hoi IV fag who decorates his room with memorabilia. Admittingly, I was a Wehraboo once, several years ago, but I left that part of my life behind because I grew disinterested in the Wehrmacht. And neither do I care about the Nazis in their entirety, only certain points of theirs tangent to my personal set of beliefs and that's mostly because we both draw inspiration from the same philosophers, albeit with different interpretations of it.

Now, please actually consult my arguments I made against the incompetency of the Brits instead of strawmanning my character and resort to ad hominems. I have a film running in the background and this retarded convo is distracting my experience.

>>17891870
Was Lenin, not indeed a Tartar, and was the Soviet state and its apparatuses not of his devise? The war, for the nationalist regime of the Third Reich, was against Asiatic Bolshevism; Tartar barbarism in ideological form.

>>17891839
The Germans lost 50.000-70.000 Pilots during the ENTIRE war, even at a 1.5 k/d ratios the Allies couldn't have possibly killed so many German pilots. Most sources I could find placed their casualties below 10.000. They might be wrong, I haven't looked too far into the topic of Luftwaffe casualties beyond Durface level, but even if they are, your argument is bollocks.

>>17891882
Not really. The government and bureaucracy was mostly Slavic and Jewish. It was 'Asiatic' culturally I suppose

>>17891900
USSR was ruled by Georgians, Poles and Latvians

>>17891900
The Tartars have always relied on Aryan slaves to achieve their goals of total barbarism.

>>17891854
Britain was buckbroken by Germany during WW2, their colonial Empire despite U.S. fell apart. And I think we can all agree that the Nazis were not that competent as an adversary. Their leadership was inexperienced and mostly came from petty Bourgeoisie background, in many technological Areas they lacked behind, by all metrics they wrre outproduced by Britain and the USm individually and their army was built from scratch since 1935. And despite all of that, the Brit ran with their tails between their legs to their shitty Island and the most significanf thing they did was this very bombing campaign this very thread is about and at best is considered a moderate success despite probably being fueled with more money and resources than the entire Nazi War machine.

The Slavs may have not been the proudest people, but it was them who stopped this pathetic charade of the Nazis and later birthed a superpower from agrarian Shitholes while the Brits declined into a state of irrelevancy.

>>17891837
Terrible bait, try better.

>>17891911
Aryan slave is an oxymoron

>>17891912
You will never be white or German. But if you want to simp for Slavnegroes then I suppose that's more fitting

>>17891916
True, the state of being a slave is an inherent quality. I mean that the Tartars rely on Aryans under their captivity to achieve all state functions, whether they be Persians, Tajiks, or Slavs.

>>17891919
>Persians, Tajiks, or Slavs
None of those groups are Aryan except for maybe Persians and that was a long time ago

>>17891918
I'm not a German, you are correct with that assumption. But nonetheless:
You call the Slavic people negros, but which European Nations exactly are opening the Gates for mass migration? Which European Nation covered up the systematic rape of tousands of white girls for the sake of inclusivity? Which nations invented and habour the roots of cultural Marxism?

I'm not a Slavaboo (despite being half slav myself), I only hold respect and a degree of sympathy for their nations, that's as far as my opinion for them goes. Should someone decide overnight to nuke them from the face of earth. I won't shed a single tear.

>>17891922
Belarus and Poland facilitate migration to Western Europe. Of course they don't want migrants in their own countries. They want migrants in ours

>>17891922
you have /pol/ to cry about the fact that some random poor pakis families somehow conquered the West by living there

>>17891920
Slavs are of course Aryans under the corrupted influence of the Tartar. Persians and Tajiks are Aryans mixed with Eastern Mediterranids, mirroring the westernmost Aryan peoples. All are superior to the Tartars-Moguls and Indics.

>>17891927
The peoples of Pakistan are Aryans and allies of the Western Aryans in a sense.

>>17891928
>>17891931
Braindead schizo

>>17891915
no argument?

I commend the Aryans of Indus for crushing the decadent Tartar rabble, thus dispelling the myth of Tartar battle prowess.

>>17891927
And you have a rope to hang yourself with.

>>17891943
enjoy hell

>>17891938
There is this entire thread, offered quite the sum of arguments. Altough an Anon offered a nice rebuttal to my statements which I shall address tomorrow, I'm too tired to further partake this retarded thread.

>>17891898
Nope, and again, you should read How the War was Won by Phillips O'brien

Allied kill ratio was around 4:1, albeit it was over German skies, so naturally pilots would survive/not being captured

It's the reason why during Battle for Britain, the Luftwaffe lost 3x more pilots than England.
The bottom line is that Germany spent 40-50% of her entire wartime munition production on single engine aircrafts specifically to counter allied bombing

You only have surface level understanding of ww2, hence why you dont understand the porportion of allied contribution since its more measured in material rather than boots on the ground. The overwhelming majority of the wehrmacht soldiers were deployed in the east but AFV production only amounted to 5-10% of German munition, which is less than what Germany invested in the navy which was specifically used against the allies, and less than her AA-gun production which was primarily used to defend German cities.
You also seem to diregard the real damage that allied bombing did to Germany, only focusing on civilian casualties for some reason, tho this was almost neglected by the allies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_of_the_Reich

And then we havent even considered lend-lease contribution to both the Chinese and the Soviets, nor the fact that the allies were themselves fighting a 2-frontal war.
You also completely disregard the North Africa campaign / Mediteranian campaign which kinda shows your bias/uneducated level. The battle for Tunis for example was one of the most catastrophic defeats of the Axis on parallel with Stalingrad (they both occured roughly at the same time. The allies captured 300.000 prisoners, destroyed roughly 500 tanks, and 4000(!) luftwaffe aircrafts, and captured a mountain of German heavy equiptment, while sinking the entire Axis mediteranian fleet. It's been completely overlooked because normie media history focus on Stalingrad but the defeat at Tunis was an equal shock to the German command

>>17891949
Concession accepted

>>17891951
Teutonic peoples whether of Insular or forest persuasion are definitely the most martial race. the Tartars stand no chance of survival or even peace in death when we are united against their yoke.

>>17891951
No, the allied kill ratio was not 1:4, not even close. Both the RAF and USAAF estimate the Germans had a 40-50% KDR advantage over the Western Allies.
>Luftwaffe lost 3x more pilots
Nope, check the numbers. Its around 1700 to 2100.

You say that poster has curiositas but you are just flat out ignorant, lying, or making things up regarding air stats. Not even Wikipedia agrees with you.
The US army war college did an assessment of German combat ability and found in the Dupuy study the British needed a 1.6x numerical advantage to defeat the Germans and the U.S. a 1.4x numerical advantage, despite having superiority in air and materiel.

The western forces can’t fight. Angolems can’t fight. These are retarded baby headed ogre like cretins who are shorter than Germans, weaker than Germans, stupider than Germans, their HDI is lower than Germans, their Nordic Bronze Admixture is lower than Germans, most Anglos aren’t even Germanic as Scandinavia/Nordic admixture peaks at 35% in the British isles and most people in the isles including England are sub 10% Germanic.
Only two counties according to the Anglo Saxon 2022 study are even close to being half non-indigenous Briton. 95% of the people in England are 70-100% indigenous pre Germanic Briton stock who look like Rowan Atkinson the Neolithic bugman who got cucked by Germanic BVLLs.

Angolems aren’t Germanic, they aren’t Nordic, they aren’t related to the Vikings or whatever the fuck. These are low IQ bug people whose sole value is found in their production of Ginger girls, which today they allow to be abused by foreign men.
Angolem “males” should be murdered and Angolem women should be given to German BVLLs who will actually take care of them and defend them from afro asiatic animals.
not even joking I am close to going over to England myself.
RM, SAS, SBS - trash. 1688 1066 865 450 54 560 1800 7000
These “people” are subhumans who hate beauty and strength. Murder Anglos sexo Redheads.

>>17892073
>still lost two world wars
sounds like a lot of that shit you posted doesn't actually matter 2bh

>>17892083
Tartars did not even have the privilege of fighting a world war, their state and fighting force could not even handle Cossack bands and were at the mercy of Ivan the cuckold who was too cucked to away with them. They will not be so lucky this time.

>>17892073
AI agrees with me.
Not that AI is a source but at least it confirms my already stated source (Phillip O'Brien - How the War was Won)

>Do it again Bomber Harris
>Harris is Rhodesian
>watches Rhodesia become niggers
>doesn't bomb Zimbabwe

Who write this script?

>>17891759
Hitler lost to the combined forces of the four world superpowers: The United States of America, the Soviet Union, the British Empire and the French Empire.