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Anonymous No.17897237 [Report] >>17897241 >>17897245 >>17897251 >>17898075 >>17898980 >>17899289 >>17900203 >>17900733 >>17900769 >>17902018 >>17904737 >>17905193 >>17907770 >>17908368
Han Chinese castrated and sliced Jurchens (Manchus) to death
Jurchen (Manchu) rebellion Wang Gao was sliced to death (lingchi aka death by a thousand cuts) by Han Chinese during the Mimg dynasty.

His sons Atai 阿台 and Ahai 阿海were both killed.

>Wang Gao (王杲): a Jianzhou Jurchen awarded a position of command in Jianzhou. He was put to death by lingchi at Beijing in 1575 due to repeated raids into Ming border territories. He is said to be Nurhaci's maternal great-grandfather or maternal grandfather.

Jurchens (Manchus) like Yishiha were castrated as eunuch slaves by Han Chinese.

>Yishiha (Chinese: 亦失哈; Wade–Giles: Ishiha/I-shih-ha; also rendered as Išiqa and Isiha;[1] Jurchen: i ʃï xa[2]) (fl. 1409–1451), sinicized name Yi Xin (易信), was a Jurchen eunuch of the Ming dynasty of China. He served the Ming emperors who commissioned several expeditions down the Songhua and Amur Rivers during the period of Ming rule of Manchuria,[1][3] and is credited with the construction of the only two Ming dynasty Buddhist temples ever built on the territory of present-day Russia.[4]

>It is believed that Yishiha was a Haixi Jurchen by origin,[1][5] and was captured by the Ming forces in the late 14th century.[1] He worked under two important eunuchs, Wang Zhen and Cao Jixiang. It is speculated by modern historians that he rose to prominence by participating in imperial court politics and serving the Yongle Emperor's concubines of Manchu (Jurchen) origin.[6][7]
Anonymous No.17897241 [Report] >>17897245 >>17897251 >>17897326 >>17900203
>>17897237 (OP)
B-b-but /pol/tards claimed Manchus invented death by 1,000 cuts.

How could Manchus invented something that was used on them before the Qing dynasty existed?
Anonymous No.17897245 [Report] >>17897251
>>17897237 (OP)
>>17897241
During the Qing dynasty, Manchus used lingchi (death by 1,000 cuts) to slice Tibetans and Uyghur Muslims death.

>On 1 November 1728, after the Qing reconquest of Lhasa in Tibet, several Tibetan rebels were sliced to death by Qing Manchu officers and officials in front of the Potala Palace. Qing Manchu President of the Board of Civil Office, Jalangga, Mongol sub-chancellor Sen-ge and brigadier-general Manchu Mala ordered Tibetan rebels Lum-pa-nas and Na-p'od-pa to be sliced.[50][51] Tibetan rNam-rgyal-grva-ts'an college administrator (gner-adsin) and sKyor'lun Lama were tied together with Lum-pa-nas and Na-p'od-pa on four scaffolds (k'rims-sin) to be sliced. The Manchus used musket matchlocks to fire three salvoes and then the Manchus strangled the two lamas while slicing Lum-pa-nas and Na-p'od-pa to death. The Tibetan population was depressed by the scene and the writer of MBTJ continued to feel sad as he described it 5 years later. The public execution spectacle worked on the Tibetans since they were "cowed into submission" by the Qing. Even the Tibetan collaborator with the Qing, Polhané Sönam Topgyé (P'o-lha-nas), felt sad at his fellow Tibetans being executed in this manner and prayed for them. All of this was included in a report sent to the Qing Yongzheng Emperor.[52]
Anonymous No.17897247 [Report] >>17897270 >>17897275
How is he a eunuch and be the father of 2 sons?
Anonymous No.17897251 [Report] >>17900728
>>17897237 (OP)
>>17897241
>>17897245
>On 23 January 1751 (25/XII), Tibetan rebels who participated in the Lhasa riot of 1750 against the Qing were sliced to death by Qing Manchu general Bandi, similar to what happened on 1 November 1728. 6 Tibetan rebel leaders plus Tibetan rebel leader Blo-bzan-bkra-sis were sliced to death.[53] Manchu General Bandi sent a report to the Qing Qianlong emperor on 26 January 1751 on how he carried out the slicing of the Tibetan rebels: dBan-rgyas (Wang-chieh), Padma-sku-rje-c'os-a['el (Pa-t'e-ma-ku-erh-chi-ch'un-p'i-lo) and Tarqan Yasor (Ta-erh-han Ya-hsün) were sliced to death for injuring the Manchu ambans with arrows, bows and fowling pieces during the Lhasa riot when they assaulted the building the Manchu ambans (Labdon and Fucin) were in; Sacan Hasiha (Ch'e-ch'en-ha-shih-ha) for murder of multiple individuals; Ch'ui-mu-cha-t'e and Rab-brtan (A-la-pu-tan) for looting money and setting fire during the attack on the Ambans; Blo-bzan-bkra-sis, the mgron-gner for being the overall leader of the rebels who led the attack which looted money and killed the Manchu ambans.[54]

>Jahangir Khoja (張格爾): a Uyghur Muslim Sayyid and Naqshbandi Sufi rebel of the Afaqi suborder, Jahangir Khoja was sliced to death in 1828 by the Manchus for leading a rebellion against the Qing.
Anonymous No.17897270 [Report] >>17897275 >>17900203
>>17897247
Wang Gao and Yishiha are two different Jurchens who lived in different centuries under Ming China's rule.

Wang Gao was the father of two sons and Yishiha was the eunuch.

Han Chinese terrorised Jurchens for over 200 years during the Ming.

Nurhaci's own father Taksi and grandfather Giocangga were executed by Han Chinese.

Nurhaci's son Hongtaiji changed the name of Jurchens to Manchu out of shame in 1636 to avoid being associated with a defeated humiliated conquered slave ethnicity.
Anonymous No.17897275 [Report] >>17897277 >>17900203 >>17906886
>>17897247
>>17897270
Khitan men raped Jurchen (Manchu) girls when they ruled them for 200 years in the Liao dynasty. Jurchens revolted against Khitan after Khitan started raping married Jurchen women.

Han Chinese conquered, castrated and raped Manchus during the Ming dynasty, during Chenghua Liting 成化犁庭

Yishiha was a Jurchen who served as eunuch slave to Ming dynasty, which ruled Jurchens in the Nurgan regional military commission.

The Mongols mass raped Jurchens (Manchus) and Koreans and Turks and Iraqis and Syrian Sunnis.
Anonymous No.17897277 [Report] >>17900203
>>17897275
The Manchus were also already under Ming rule for 200 years

The Ming ruled Manchuria as the Nurgan region military commission in the Yongle emperor's reign, and had their Jurchen eunuch slave Yishiha led expeditions against his fellow Jurchens and set up the Yongning temple stele.

The Ming Chenghua emperor led brutal genocidal expeditions against the Jurchens that slaughtered and raped them.

The Ming executed Jurchen chief Wang Gao in 1575 afte he tried rebelling and taking Fushun city.

Nurhaci grew up in the household of Ming general Li Chengliang and he Nurhaci was bilingual in Manchu and Mandarin Chinese and read Ming novels like Water Margin. Which he credited for teaching military tactics.

Nurhaci went on multiple tribute missions to Beijing and knew what the Ming looked like onthe inside.

The Ming slaughtered Nurhaci's father and grandfather which is when he started planning to revolt.

Nurhaci didn't even achieve his first capture of a Ming city in Liaodong by military force.

Nurhaci offered Ming officer Li Yongfang in Fushun in 1618 to give his own granddaughter to Li, in exchange for defecting and surrendering the city.

That was the same city Wang Gao failed to take decades earlier.

Nurhaci's son Hongtaiji gave more Manchu princesses to Han generals like Shang Kexi in exchange for bringing his entire army over along with hongyipao heavy cannon experts.
Anonymous No.17897326 [Report] >>17899096
>>17897241
Khitan Mongolic men fucked every Jurchen girl (right of first night) for 200 years during the Liao dynasty.
Anonymous No.17898075 [Report] >>17898078
>>17897237 (OP)
Anonymous No.17898078 [Report]
>>17898075
Anonymous No.17898980 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
Manchuds
Anonymous No.17899014 [Report]
Chinese history is so confusing man
Anonymous No.17899039 [Report] >>17899096
I am Dongbei Manzu Ren, more Han than Jurchen, but there are probably higher Jurchen ancestry Hans among western Liaoning and Northern Hebei folks than the Manchu Banner people themselves. Just take a chill pill Muslim LARPer George Wu Singaporean
Anonymous No.17899057 [Report] >>17899096
Mass intermarriage between Jurchen and Northern Han began in the Liao, schizo. A major part of Northern Han culture towards the NE is Tungusic originated, Malaysian mixed schizo
Anonymous No.17899096 [Report] >>17899556
>>17899039
>>17899057
Jurchens were being mass raped by Khitans during the Liao dynasty >>17897326

The only mixture going on was Khitan semen entering the Jurchen genepool.
Anonymous No.17899289 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
Is this some kind of small dick rage thread or something?
Anonymous No.17899556 [Report] >>17899570
>>17899096
Jurchens and Hans are part of the Chinese nation, or it wouldn’t be China
Anonymous No.17899570 [Report] >>17899781
>>17899556
Why don't Manchu cucks avenge the Eight Nation Alliance gang rape then?

Why are Manchuds sucking off their Eight Nation rapists?

I never heard a Mancuck say anything negative about Kaiser Wilhelm II who ordered the biggest mass rape of Mancucks in Beijing in 1900.
Anonymous No.17899781 [Report]
>>17899570
A real Mancuck probably thinks they are Central Asian or Mongolian and slightly likes Korean and some Japanese stuff. They think they are part white or some shi
Anonymous No.17899818 [Report]
cool, a schizo thread
Anonymous No.17899825 [Report] >>17899856
So if it's okay for Tartars to kill each other why not Europeans kill Tartars out of Europe?
Anonymous No.17899856 [Report] >>17899859
>>17899825
Because Tartars are made for Tartar Sauce or Beouf Tatare
Anonymous No.17899859 [Report] >>17899863 >>17899901
>>17899856
They don't belong in Europe though, They are from Kamchatka.
Anonymous No.17899863 [Report]
>>17899859
Imagine if Ivan the cuckold wasn't a cuckold and settled Germanic Catholics on freshly slaughtered Tartar lands.
Anonymous No.17899901 [Report] >>17901131
>>17899859
Eastern part of European Russia is barely Europe/European
Anonymous No.17900203 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
>>17897241
>>17897270
>>17897275
>>17897277
Yihsiha led the Ming military expeditions in the northeast on this map.

He was castrated by Han Chinese as a boy, enslaved, and ordered to lead military campaigns against his own people in the Amur region, erecting steles in the Jurchen language proclaiming the rule of Han Chinese Ming over the region.

Han Chinese Ming officials took native women from the Amur and Sakhalin as wives both Nivkh and Jurchen, while Yishiha watched.

Japanese women and girls got raped by Jurchens (Manchus) en masse in the Toi pirate raids.

Under Ming dynasty southern Han Chinese rule, Jurchens (Manchus) were forced to sell their daughters or starve to death in famine during the ninth 9th year of the Ming Xuande emperor's reign.

>宣德九年,女真地区灾荒,女真人被迫卖儿鬻女,四处流亡,逃向辽东的女真难民,希望得到官府的赈济。针对这一情况,亦失哈急忙上疏,请求动用贮存在这里作为赏赐奴儿干的粮食和物资,赈济前来求食的难民。英宗立即批准了他的请求。除此之外,亦失哈还动用个人的积存,救济难民。
Anonymous No.17900728 [Report]
>>17897251
Wiggers
Anonymous No.17900733 [Report] >>17900922 >>17900924 >>17903840 >>17908488 >>17908491
>>17897237 (OP)
ching chong ping pong
theoriginalchinesedonotexist.jpg
at least half are Mongol rapebabies
Anonymous No.17900769 [Report] >>17900922 >>17901941
>>17897237 (OP)
We should have fixed that country when we had the chance.
Anonymous No.17900922 [Report] >>17900924 >>17902221 >>17903840
>>17900733
Genghis Khan literally raped Manchus (Jurchens)

Genghis personally took Jin Jurchen Wanyan Princess Qiguo as his concubine.

Genghis Khan's son Ogedei Khan massacred Jurchen Wanyan male princes at Bianjing (Kaifeng) and took the female Jurchen Wanyan princesses as sex slaves in 1233-1234.

Mongols killed and raped millions of Jurchens (Manchus).

Han tumen general Shi Bingzhi and his son Shi Tianze helped the Mongols rape and kill Jurchens.

Shi Bingzhi (Shih Ping-chih) had a Jurchen concubine and his son Shi Tianze (Shih T'ien-tse) had two Jurchen concubines from the Nahe (Na-ho) and Monian (Mo-nien) clans.

Shi Tianze's son Shi Gang was born to one of his Jurchen concubines.

Shi Gang married a Mongol Kerait woman.

Another one of Shi Tianze's sons married the daughter of Mongol official Menggu Baer (Meng-ku Pa-erh)

Kublai Khan gave one of his own daughters in marriage to Han Chinese Zhao Xian (Emperor Gong of Song).

Manchu clans like Yehenara (Yehe Nara) descend from Mongol men taking Jurchen women as wives.

Aisin Gioro is of paternal Daur descent from the Ao clan.

>>17900769
The Eight Nation Alliance raped the Manchu majority inner city of Beijing in 1900. Most of their victims were Manchus.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17733267/#q17733267
Anonymous No.17900924 [Report]
>>17900733
>>17900922
Anonymous No.17901131 [Report] >>17901932
>>17899901
We conquered it, it's ours, Tartar chimps are from Kamchatka and before they squatted on European land it belonged to Aryan Scythians who were like Tajiks.
Anonymous No.17901932 [Report]
>>17901131
Finns are not Aryan and they live in Karelia.
Anonymous No.17901941 [Report]
>>17900769
They don't need fixing. They turned themselves from just doing the industrial revolution to the top superpower in 2 decades without even bombing or colonizing anyone lol

Cope and seethe
Anonymous No.17901991 [Report]
>raped this, castrated that
Degeneracy and subhmanity, desu.
Anonymous No.17902018 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
>reading pic related
>read the word 'rape' tens of thousands of times
>'British soldiers raped tens of thousands'
Whoever wrote this is a coomer
Anonymous No.17902221 [Report] >>17902242 >>17902317
>>17900922
Mandarin is technically a strongly heavily Khitan and Jurchen influenced variety of Middle Chinese. You lost Malaysian schizo
Anonymous No.17902242 [Report] >>17902317 >>17902751 >>17902770
>>17902221
Wrong Eight Nation Alliance rapebaby.

Mandarin has no consonant final except N.

Jurchen (Manchu), Khitan, Mongol, Cantonese all have m, k/g, p/b, t/d finals at the ends of consonants.

Mandarin as Zh Ch Sh R initials (the pinyin sound values not English ones) which are totally absent in Jurchen (Manchu), Khitan, Mongol and Cantonese

Manchus had to add 10 extra letters to Manchu alphabet to represent zh ch sh r in Mandarin loanwords into Manchu.
Anonymous No.17902317 [Report] >>17902751
>>17902221
>>17902242
Khitan also transcribes Mandarin word Jin as Gim.

Manchu transcribes the Mandarin word Jing as Ging.

Mandarin changed to Jin and Jing on its own.

Manchu language is unlike other Tungusic languages because of Khitan and Mandarin influence while Khitan were raping Jurchen girls.
Anonymous No.17902751 [Report]
>>17902242
>>17902317
>types Latin to write pinyin
>those pesky 8 nation sympathiser, 8 banner betrayer!!
Anonymous No.17902770 [Report] >>17902773
>>17902242
Manchu doesn’t have than much consonant endings Malay mutt

Mandarin phonology was influenced by forms of Middle Chinese speech so previous Jurchen and Khitan/Mongol speakers could speak and understand with each other


You southern southeast Asian Chinese are more mixed and divergent from Yellow River than Manchu were, not are
Anonymous No.17902773 [Report] >>17903067 >>17903077
>>17902770
>Manchu doesn’t have than much consonant endings

Consonant endings aren't just at the end of words retard, do you know what a syllable is?

Dulimbai, Akjan, Abka

Are you retarded and think the m in Lim, k in Ak and b in Ab doesn't count as a final because its not at the end of the word?

Manchu also has L consonant endings which Mandarin doesn't have.
Anonymous No.17903067 [Report] >>17903071 >>17903489
>>17902773
There are ghost consonants in between the middle consonant clusters when transliterated into a Mandarin phonetic type moron. It doesn’t sound short and so syllablic based as Hokkien or Cantonese
Anonymous No.17903071 [Report]
>>17903067
>vowels
Anonymous No.17903077 [Report] >>17903501
>>17902773
It’s not a creole numb dumb. It’s when frontier groups tried speaking Middle Chinese with those of Song, when the country became unified. It went back to Nanjing for a time, not just spent its evolution in the north
Anonymous No.17903085 [Report] >>17903501
Nanjing dialect had equal prominence with that of Beijing dialect centuries after so they were speaking the same language, Muslim larping orangutan. Your language has no prominence or feature other than being a relic from the Tang or even Han dynasty
Anonymous No.17903113 [Report] >>17903553 >>17903559
Northern Han, Bohai, Khitan, Jurchen, Shiwei/Menggu even some Turkic or Central Asian groups blended together and came out to influence modern provincial or peripheral Hans not really Hans of the Central Plains, Mongol Nation and Manchu Nation, each with their one signatures but still close together. Some provincial Hans (not all Northern Hans) took on Jurchen or Khitan/Mongol characteristics while Mongols and Manchus took on Han characteristics at the same time
Anonymous No.17903117 [Report] >>17903559
They may have been lost due to new generations of new rich and migrants from the countryside coming in. But the fact is many Central Asians and Iranian and Turkic type people assimilated but their traces are all gone. It’s the fact they assimilated mostly in urban environments

You will never be like them, Malaysian.
Anonymous No.17903150 [Report]
>chinkspammer vs. the spaincel
Anonymous No.17903489 [Report]
>>17903067
>There are ghost consonants in between the middle consonant clusters when transliterated into a Mandarin phonetic type moron

Speak English you dumb 8 nation alliance rape spawn.

Dulimbai, Akjan, Abka, NONE of these are Mandarin transliteration.

A Mandarin speaker would transliterate the two syllable Manchu word akjan as a-ke-zhan in Chinese characters (three syllables)

If a Mandarin speaker transliterated the Manchu word Dulimbai they would do it as Du-li-mu-bai or even replace the M altogether and do Du-lin-bai.

Mandarin initials like Zh, Ch, Sh, R are non-existent in Manchu

A Manchu L1 monolingual person would have no idea how to pronounce Zhang, Chang, Shang and Ran.
Anonymous No.17903501 [Report] >>17904737
>>17903077
>>17903085
Dumb fuck, none of the fanfiction word salad you are typing has anything to do with points or with reality.

Both Beijing dialect and Nanjing dialect do not have consonant finals other than N.

Manchu and Cantonese both have M, P/B, K/G, T/D consonant finals

Manchu even has L consonant finals which no Sinitic dialect has.

The difference between Beijing Mandarin and other Mandarin dialects like Nanjing or Xi'an or Kunming is that the other Mandarin dialects pronounce Jing, Jin, Ji as Ging, Gin, Gi, or the other Mandarin dialects have glottal stops, or the other Mandarin dialects have a V initial like in Xi'an.

None of those has to do with Manchu or Khitan.

In fact Manchu and Khitan both transcribe Jing as Ging and Khitan transcribes Jin as Gim.

By your dumb logic, Nanjing dialect, Cantonese, Hakka and Min are all Manchu and Khitan influenced, while Beijing dialect is pure Sinitic.
Anonymous No.17903553 [Report] >>17903559 >>17903565 >>17903979
>>17903113
>came out to influence modern provincial or peripheral Hans

Gansu, North Shaanxi, North Shanxi, North Hebei were originally inhabited by barbarians, retard.

Entire Gansu was inhabited by Quanrong and Qiang in the east and Indo-European Tocharian Yuezhi in the west in Dunhuang, until the Qin kingdom, Qin dynasty and Han dynasty conquered all of Gansu and Han soldiers took local women as wives.

The northern Hebei and northern Shanxi was inhabited by Beidi barbarian kingdoms like Zhongshan and Dai

Han kingdoms like Yan in south Hebei and Zhao in south Shanxi conquered those barbarians and raped them to extinction.

Entire Liaodong was barbarians before Yan conquered and raped them.

Han originated in Guanzhong (middle of Shaanxi), Henan, south Shanxi, south Hebei and western Shandong.

>some Turkic

The Gokturks originated in Gansu before overwriting the Rouran.

Salar Turkmen only married Tibetan women after moving to Qinghai.

>It’s the fact they assimilated mostly in urban environments

Han men in Gansu took Sogdian women as concubines. The ancient letters discovered by Aurel Stein at Dunhuang show a Sogdian woman being ordered by her cuck Sogdian husband to sell herself to Han Chinese.

They also got genocided and mass raped since the cities they resided in were sacked.

Sogdians and Turks got slaughtered with their babies impaled on spears in Fanyang/Jicheng/Beijing by Gao Juren during the An Lushan rebellion.

In the Ispah rebellion, Han people led by Chen Youding massacred Central Asian Semu rebels in revenge.

The Ispah Muslim rebels also killed each other and massacred the Indian Tamils and Armenians before Chen Youding BTFO'd them.

Genghis Khan raped and massacred tons of Jurchens and Bohai in Zhongdu (Beijing) when he attacked the Jin. He massacred Tanguts in Western Xia's capital and raped a Jurchen princess and Tangut princess.
Anonymous No.17903559 [Report] >>17903562
>>17903113
>>17903117
>>17903553
Xiongnu and Jie rebels like by Han Zhao and Later Zhao's founders, killed all Sogdians and Indians in Luoyang when they rebelled against Western Jin in the Five barbarians rebellion.

Later Ran Min massacred 250,000 Jie people in Hebei.

Manchus got raped and massacred by the Eight Nation Alliance in the inner city of Beijing, Aigun in 1900.

Manchus were massacred and raped in Zhenjiang, Wuhan, Taiyuan, Nanjing and Xi'an in 1911.

Many barbarians married non-Han women in China like Tibetans, Yi, Koreans.

The Mongols brought Khitan and Bohai to Yunnan to marry non-Han ethnic minorities.

Khitan people in Yunnan became Ben people, and Mongols in Yunnan became Khatso people after marrying ethnic minority Yi women, they still speak a Mongol-Yi creole.

Bohai people married ethnic Dai (Thai) in Zhenkang in Yunnan, the ruling family if an ethnic Dai Tusi was of Bohai origin surnamed Dao.

Salar Turk Semu who migrated to Qinghai settled on Tibetan land and married Tibetan women

Iranic Sart Semu from Central Asia who moved to Gansu married Mongols and produced the Mongolic speaking Dongxiang and Bonan minorities.

Omanis, Turks and Iranic Hoehoe (Huihui) moved to Korea during Yuan dynasty-Goryeo and founded clans by marrying Korean women like Deoksu Jang, Sanggok Ma, Imcheon Lee, Gyeongju Sol.

The Omani Sayyid Abu Ali married a Korean woman in Beijing during Kublai Khan's rule and founded an Omani-Korean Hui family. His children lived in Beijing and Quanzhou.

Mongols moved Bohai, Khitan, Central Asians people to non-Han Yunnan (Yunnan only became Han majority after the Mongol conquest of the Bai majority Dali kingdom in Yunnan) where they married Yi and Dai people.

The Central Asians were also moved to the former Tangut Western Xia in Gansu and Qinghai to breed with Tibetans (Salar Turks with Tibetan women) and Mongols bred with Iranic Sarts of Central Asia to produce Dongxiang Santa (Sarta) and Bonan people.
Anonymous No.17903562 [Report]
>>17903559
Koreans from Goryeo had a song about a Huihui (Hoehoe) baker who sexually harasses a Korean women visiting the bakery and the Korean woman enjoys it.

Mongols took Korean girls as tribute and married them to Han Chinese soldiers and officers and to Semu Huihui Muslim officials and soldiers. Mongols also took Korean concubines like Empress Gi (Ki).

That's how Abu Ali had a Korean wife.
Anonymous No.17903565 [Report]
>>17903553


Sogdian ancient letters in Dunhuang, Gansu, dating to the Western Jin shows that Sogdian women served as servants to Han Chinese men. A Sogdian man even abandoned his Sogdian wife and daughter in Dunhuang and told her to sell herself to Han Chinese.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/miwnay-sogdian-1700

DNA remains from Dunhuang shows Han Chinese men had children with Caucasoid Indo-European women (most likely Sogdian) repeatedly over the centuries from Cao Wei to the Tang dynasty.

http://researchgate.net/publication/376558253_Inferring_the_demographic_history_of_Hexi_Corridor_over_the_past_two_millennia_from_ancient_genomes
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and courtesans in brothels of China of Tocharian Indo-European women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kucha

Sogdian women served as servants to Han Chinese men.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/miwnay-sogdian-1700

DNA remains from Dunhuang show that Han Chinese men had children with Caucasoid Indo-European women.

http://researchgate.net/publication/376558253_Inferring_the_demographic_history_of_Hexi_Corridor_over_the_past_two_millennia_from_ancient_genomes
Chinese conquered and ruled over Tocharians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaochang

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jushi_Kingdom

The Chinese conquered it again 1400 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Taizong%27s_campaign_against_the_Western_Regions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectorate_General_to_Pacify_the_West
Anonymous No.17903840 [Report]
>>17900733
>>17900922
Mongols sold their own children as slaves to Han Chinese during the Yuan dynasty

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13220278

Northern Han generals married Mongol women and Southern Han soldiers married Korean women given to them by Kublai Khan.

>>17608854
>>17608857


https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17388491/#q17388491
Anonymous No.17903979 [Report]
>>17903553
Ispah rebellion was in Quanzhou for anyone unfamiliar with the location.
Anonymous No.17904737 [Report] >>17905813 >>17906871
>>17897237 (OP)
Many Jurchen chiefs used Han style names (one syllable surname and one or two character name) if anyone is wondering about why the Jurchen chief had the name Wang Gao.

Jurchen chief Li Manzhu lived during the early Ming and he had a completely Han style surname and two syllable name.

Jianzhou Jurchen chiefs used either Han or Mongol names for prestige, Nurhaci's claimed ancestor Mentemu's name was Mongol origin (Mengge Temur)

Hongtaiji had a Mongol name of Han origin, from the Chinese title Huang Taizi which became Mongol Khong Tayiji.

Also Jurchens from the Tungiyya clan used the Han style one syllable surname Tong with Han style two character names.

Mongol Kublai Khan also gave his son the crown prince a Han personal name, Zhenjin (Chingim), which is relevant to >>17903501

Mongols could not pronounce pinyin Zh so they wrote it as Mongol Ch, and they wrote Jin as Gim (Mongol has M finals unlike Beijing Mandarin).

Cantonese can say Gim but Beijing dialect speakers cannot.
Anonymous No.17905193 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
Jurchiggers
Anonymous No.17905351 [Report]
Who cares who raped who? At the end of the day, Manchus and Han Changs ended up becoming the same thing
Anonymous No.17905813 [Report]
>>17904737
Also the entire name Jianzhou is a Han name given by the Ming when the Ming created the Jianzhou Jurchen guard (wei-suo) system.

Han people created the Nurgan (Nuergan) regional military commission and the Jianzhou Jurchen weisuo to rule the Jurchens.
Anonymous No.17906871 [Report]
>>17904737
Möngke Temür.
Anonymous No.17906886 [Report]
>>17897275
You're all about that mass rape. A mass rape expert and enthusiast.
Anonymous No.17907770 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
Tungus niggers.

Tungusic
Anonymous No.17908368 [Report]
>>17897237 (OP)
Jurchen (Manchu) rebel leader Wang Gao was sliced to death (lingchi aka death by a thousand cuts) by Han Chinese during the Mimg dynasty.

His sons Atai 阿台 and Ahai 阿海were both killed.

>Wang Gao (王杲): a Jianzhou Jurchen awarded a position of command in Jianzhou. He was put to death by lingchi at Beijing in 1575 due to repeated raids into Ming border territories. He is said to be Nurhaci's maternal great-grandfather or maternal grandfather.

Jurchens (Manchus) like Yishiha were castrated as eunuch slaves by Han Chinese.

>Yishiha (Chinese: 亦失哈; Wade–Giles: Ishiha/I-shih-ha; also rendered as Išiqa and Isiha;[1] Jurchen: i ʃï xa[2]) (fl. 1409–1451), sinicized name Yi Xin (易信), was a Jurchen eunuch of the Ming dynasty of China. He served the Ming emperors who commissioned several expeditions down the Songhua and Amur Rivers during the period of Ming rule of Manchuria,[1][3] and is credited with the construction of the only two Ming dynasty Buddhist temples ever built on the territory of present-day Russia.[4]

>It is believed that Yishiha was a Haixi Jurchen by origin,[1][5] and was captured by the Ming forces in the late 14th century.[1] He worked under two important eunuchs, Wang Zhen and Cao Jixiang. It is speculated by modern historians that he rose to prominence by participating in imperial court politics and serving the Yongle Emperor's concubines of Manchu (Jurchen) origin.[6][7]
Anonymous No.17908488 [Report] >>17908491
>>17900733
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9469475/#9469715

Y chromosome confirms it's the same as the original Han 3,000 years ago.

Han Chinese have the same paternal Y chromosome haplogroups as 3,000 years ago and even further back since the Neolithic. Unless barbarian women came and mass raped Han men and added maternal admixture, Han are the same as ancient China.

Y Chromosomes of 40% Chinese Descend from Three Neolithic Super-Grandfathers

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0105691

Ancient DNA Reveals That the Genetic Structure of the Northern Han Chinese Was Shaped Prior to 3,000 Years Ago

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0125676 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235620438_Ancient_DNA_of_Emperor_CAO_Cao%27s_granduncle_matches_those_of_his_present_descendants_a_commentary_on_present_Y_chromosomes_reveal_the_ancestry_of_Emperor_CAO_Cao_of_1800_years_ago

The Manchu-Jurchen paternal C2 subclade haplogroup is competely absent from Han Chinese men. It's only found in Manchus, Mongols and other non-Han ethnic minorities.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418768/ https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chuan-Chao_Wang/publication/269876995_Y_Chromosome_of_Aisin_Gioro_the_Imperial_House_of_Qing_Dynasty/links/551cf6240cf2909047bcb445/Y-Chromosome-of-Aisin-Gioro-the-Imperial-House-of-Qing-Dynasty.pdf

>We reasoned that the events leading to the spread of this lineage might have been recorded in the historical record, as well as in the genetic record. The spread must have occurred after the cluster’s TMRCA (∼500 years ago, corresponding to about a.d. 1500) and, most likely, before the Xibe migration in 1764. Notable features are the occurrence of the lineage in seven different populations but its apparent absence from the most populous Chinese ethnic group, the Han.
Anonymous No.17908491 [Report]
>>17900733
>>17908488
Anonymous No.17908580 [Report] >>17908696
Oh man it’s chink spammer with his fake made up ccp sources.

None of those are real. All of that was fabricated by the ccp and you know it lol.

Fake sources made up by ccp and fake studies funded with ccp money. Nobody believes you and nobody believes anything you have posted.
Anonymous No.17908696 [Report]
>>17908580
The "ccp" are politically correct and want to show China as multi ethnic, dumb rapebaby.