Thread 17898273

Who were the “strong men” who created the good times of Rome? It clearly could not have been the julio-claudian dynasty since they were already reveling in good times. Was it the men of the punic wars who sacrificed so much for Rome and received so little in return?

>>17898273 (OP)
There were never any good times in Rome. If you were teleported to a residential area of Ancient Rome you'd think you were in brazil.

>>17898297
In ancient times, the good times meant not having your city invaded and raped by browns

>>17898273 (OP)
Strong men creating good times is a meme, but yes, it was the Punic wars generation to Caesar and Pompey. Even the immediate next generation of Agrippa, Antony, Augustus, Cassius, and Brutus were all riding their success.

>>17898297
Humans 1000 years from now will think we currently live like dirty monkeys

>>17898325
>Strong men creating good times is a meme
I don’t think so. Hard times certainly do create strong men, and the punic wars as very illustrative of that. Both Catherage and Rome understood that the war was existential, and Carthage being the more mature and wealthy of the two civilizations, didn’t have the will that Rome did. You find a hunger among nascent civilizations that dwindles away as it matures. There still are strong men after that but that hunger just isn’t there and it’s compensated for by technological superiority.

>>17898435
>Carthage being the more mature and wealthy of the two civilizations, didn’t have the will that Rome did.
Or it's a narration Roman came up with after destroying Carthage. The good times might be due to the fact that after Punic wars there weren't any other outside enemy to pose an existential threat (and the good climate at that time, resulting in abundant crops).

It was Constantine. He saw a cross in the sky, built the Church of the Resurrection, fucked up Maxentius, and saved Rome. At least for a little while.

>>17898273 (OP)
Augustus ended decades of civil war. That certainly does not sound like good times.

>>17898297
seethe IVDAEAN

>>17899150
Please delete this antisemitic image or I will have to report you to the ADL.

what strong men created our good times?
people just slaughtered each other in two great wars and said no more of that please, and voila good times

>>17899155
oy vey not the ADL!

>>17898273 (OP)

The strong men in question? Well, they were the Christian emperors. LARPagancucks like Hadrian nearly drove Rome to ruin.

>>17899191
It was created by great scientists like Shannon, Einstein or that fertilizer guy

>>17899226

Speaking of Paganism, here's a fact about Shintoism, a pagan religion:

>Amaterasu Omikami

>Amaterasu -- August Deity

>Omi -- Jew/Jews

>Kami -- God/Gods/Goddesses/Goddess

>Amaterasu Omi Kami -- August Deity, Goddess of the Jews

What the hell? Why do pagans call Christ "King of the Jews" when this is their goddess? I'm not even fucking trolling, I've studied Japanese for 4+ years.

>>17898273 (OP)
Julius Caesar, Augustus, Agrippa. Germanicus, Vespasian, Titus, the Five Good Emperors, Aurelian, Diocletian, Constantine.

>>17899150
1. I hate kikes
2. you can't prove me wrong because deep down, you know that life before electricity and antibiotics was hell.

>>17898355
Humans 100 years from now will live like dirty monkeys and wonder where their ancestors went wrong.

>>17898273 (OP)
Everyone from at least the start of the 1st Samnite War to probably the end of the 3rd Punic War.

>>17898273 (OP)
Nero

>>17900675

He was a fagan, so no.

>>17900398
women complain
men make do with what they have

>>17898273 (OP)
Caesar and Octavian were the strong men who created the good times out of a century of civil conflict, then the rest of the dynasty was weak.
Vespasian came along, but his kids were mid. Trajan and Hadrian were strong men, but not the rest of the adoptives. Etc.
Rome's history was too long to be a single golden age followed by bad times, it was a continuous cycle.