Thread 17898900

If God is both all-powerful and all-good, then child sexual abuse should not be possible. It wouldn't require the removal of free will. It would require only modifying the physics of harm, just as it's impossible to walk through walls or breathe underwater unaided. These limits don’t inhibit moral freedom; they simply define the physical structure of the world. God, for some reason, wanted children to be raped by adults. He baked it into the design of his universe.

"Free will" is a junk concept to begin with.

>>17898976
Free will as a concept is only argued because we want to justify punishing lawbreakers. If someone is by fate inclined to commit a crime, then would it not be cruel to subject them to pain and even death for an act that they could not have prevented themselves from doing?

The Sky-Jew-Kaiju created Child Molesters and admitted this himself in fact

>>17898984
>Free will as a concept is only argued because we want to justify punishing lawbreakers.
You can still lock up people for committing crimes without free will. That's what we have been doing all this time.

>>17898900 (OP)
>child sexual abuse
Define "child sexual abuse".

>>17899763
Raping children.

>create reality

>no free will to fly or become a superhero

>have the free will to commit unspeakable r*pes

what did the cosmic jew mean by this?

>>17899778
He likes and relishes in rape, suffering, and evil. Almost as much as he likes people worshiping him.

>>17898900 (OP)
Is/ought distinction. Jesus didn’t evaporate all suffering nor promise no pain in this world but rather the opposite and intentionally chose to die on a cross for your sins. Trials, tribulations, hardships, and wars are an inevitability in life; God offers a way to move past it all. Without God a man cannot overcome the world but is subject to it, forever reactive and never active.

>>17899801
>Is/ought distinction. Jesus didn’t evaporate all suffering nor promise no pain in this world

You don't even understanding the point of this thread. I'm saying why did God even make it physically possible to rape children? Why is that even a possibility? He could have made it physically impossible to do and we would still retain agency and the choice of good vs evil

>>17899802
*don't understand

>they actually think the creator is benevolent

everything the yids say and do is an inversion of reality. why would this semitic cult be different

>>17899809
giga trvke

>>17899802
Because God would rather you move past the suffering by relying on Him.

>>17899807
Why do you assume that your understanding is needed? Reality will continue to exist interdependent of your capacity to rationalize it.

>>17899816
You still aren't understanding the point. Why do we need to suffer by being raped as children, and not just in other ways? Why was it so important to him that children be raped in his creation? It's crazy how I can spell out to you what I'm saying and you still act as if I'm just asking "if god good why bad thing happen"

>>17899823
Why did God make it physically possible for adults to rape children?

>>17899824
You don’t “need” to suffer, but God offers a way to move past the suffering. You can actively choose to suffer and choose to let the suffering become worse, but it isn’t a necessity. You can extrapolate your reduction to physicality towards literally any other sexual or physical crime so yes your thread is a “if god goof why bad thing happen” because by your logic so does God apparently condone murder, theft, arson, and lobotomization simply because it’s physically possible.

>>17899827
The same reason God made it physically possible for you to misunderstand God’s nature, and it’s because your understanding is surplus to requirements of God’s goals.

>>17899832
All those words, and you still can't think of a reason why children need to be raped for us to understand good versus evil o algo

>>17899823
>Why do you assume that your understanding is needed?
>STOP THINKING SO HARD ABOUT IT. JUST LOVE GOD.

Hopefully some day all of your persecution fantasies where Christians are an oppressed minority actually come true.

>>17899837
If you refuse to move past suffering then that’s your choice anon. Blaming God won’t unrape you but it will stop you from healing.

>>17899844
You will say anything to avoid having to hold God accountable for what happens inside his creation, where he decided what is possible. A true slave, a good house nigger who loves his massa.

>>17899842
Answer the question. Why do you think your understanding is a necessity? It isn’t. No one “owes” you answers to anything, suffering happens but you can move past it. Your rationalization of the suffering isn’t relevant.

>>17899848
>Answer the question. Why do you think your understanding is a necessity?
Because I have self respect unlike you.

>>17899846
The only one who needs to be held accountable is you. Blaming God for everything you let happen in your life won’t fix it.

>>17899851
Apparently not considering you made this thread to begin with. Having a soijack collection isn’t a hallmark of “self respecting” behavior, you aren’t fooling anyone.

>>17899852
>Blaming God for everything you let happen in your life won’t fix it.
>children let themselves be raped by pedophiles

>>17899855
Yes. Hard pill to swallow for you but it’s the truth. You are weak. That’s reality.

>>17899857
Would you say that to a child who was abused?

>>17899860
Yes. I did twice now. You. Are. Weak.

>>17899862
No, I mean to someone who is still a child. And it just happened to them. Would you say that to them? Would you say that to their parents?

>>17899867
I’ve already said it to you. If you want to continue to dwell in your suffering then that’s also your choice and also caused by your weakness.

>>17899871
Just answer my question. Would you walk up to a child who just got raped and tell them it was their fault?

>>17899875
Would you? Would you lie to the child and tell them reality is just suffering or would you offer them a way to move past it?

>>17899855
>>17899857
>religion of love and peace

lol. actually just narcissistic abuse dressed up as cult family nonsense

>>17899878
>Would you lie to the child and tell them reality is just suffering or would you offer them a way to move past it?

When a helpless small child gets overpowered and abused by an adult pedophile is that the child's fault, yes or no?

>>17899879
Projection. Healing is impossible unless you recognize it’s needed. Telling a rape victim that “oh boo hoo God is mean the world sucks” doesn’t offer a way forward. You have no good intentions for others because all you know are bad ones.

>>17899885
Answer the question. We’ll wait. Would you tell the child the truth or not?

>>17899889
You answered my question with a question, which is a kike tactic. To answer your question, no, I would not tell them being raped was their fault. I will also say it's funny that we both agree that God is completely indifferent to heinous acts of evil, such as the rape of children.

>>17899895
You don’t have reading comprehension because anon already answered this question.

>>17899895
So you’re a liar and a kike, good to know.

>>17899904
Where the fuck did I lie?

>>17899895
How do you rationalize this with the fact that Christ condemns the abuse of children? As stated at the beginning, is/ought distinction. People may be evil but God is good.

>>17899908
Anon this entire thread is early 2000’s atheist sophistry creating rationalizations that have nothing to do with theology. All you’ve done is lie.

>>17899909
>How do you rationalize this with the fact that Christ condemns the abuse of children?
It wouldn't even need to be condemned if God (who you believe Jesus is) didn't choose to make it physically possible.

>>17899920
>doesn't actually point out where I lied

Also this is ignoring the fact that I am not an atheist. You stupid retards can't even disagree with someone about God without calling them an atheist. It's like those are the only two things you can be, atheist or christian

>>17899938
So God is evil by disapproving of child abuse?

>>17899944
So you believe that God exists but want nothing to do with God? That’s basically atheism with extra steps.

>>17899944
>whole thread
>doesn’t point out
The lack of reading comprehension on child rape victims is staggering.

>>17899947
If he disapproves of it why doesn't he make it impossible? People would still be free to be evil in other ways.

>>17898900 (OP)
God really likes the laws of physics the way they are ok? He would only break them for something really important like cursing a fig tree o algo.

>>17898900 (OP)

>Y BAD THING

>>17899991
Finally! ONE person in the thread who actually understood the OP!

>>17898900 (OP)
God is a jewish invention to control people.

>>17898997
Yes you can but the narrative changes from "they deserve it" to "they were born to be locked in a box" which irks people alot more and we tend to try to change things that irk us

>>17898900 (OP)
If he did you would be whining that child abuse isnt possible.

Why is fucking a kid considered the worst possible thing that someone can do to a kid? Surely there are worse fates that can befall someone.

>>17901039
Western puritan attitudes ingrained into the westoid mind by feminists. They really actively genuinely believe killing the kid is a lesser evil.

>>17899987
If it was impossible to do evil then the righteous would never be exalted for rejecting evil even when it benefitted them.

Evil must exist for a period of time while the righteous prove their righteousness and are written in the book of life. Once God has enough of them in his book he will end this world of evil and reward all those in the book with an eternity in an evil-less paradise.

Those who suffered unjustly while evil existed will be compensated in a way that they will be fully pleased and satisfied with it. God is really awesome, he smells greater than anything in the universe and can turn you into a wonder so amazing that you will be worshipped by angels.

He can make your body out of precious gems and make you shine brighter and with more splendor than the stars and give you unimaginable joy forever.

You will be in a constant state of pure delight, will be incredibly wise and Intelligent, will be able to fly through the heavens, will have millions of angel servants who will revere you will have powers and abilities that our current mind cannot comprehend.

A thousand years will be like a day for you and your happiness will never end. All too have to do is resist evil and love good until the day of your death.

>>17901039
This is a thread about agency. Children who are abused, in general, are likely to end up fucked in the head.
This interferes with that free will christcucks always talk about. Why shouldn't god prevent this possibility from happening, ensuring free will is retained into maturity?
It is just a more tangible example of the lack of free will. No one denies that child abuse negatively impacts children (no one who shouldn't be excised from the gene pool) and can send them spiraling into horrible lifepaths, many of which do not include/will never include god.

>>17901039
the christpedo shows his true face

>>17901338
The more you have suffered the more valuable your love is to God and the higher he will place your in the New age.

Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

>>17901284
If it were impossible to do evil then everyone would be righteous silly, theres no need to separate good people and bad people when bad people dont exist
Just send everyone to heaven, gods happy, your happy, im happy, everyones happy, happy days

The fact that sex exists opens up the potentiality for various sex acts. Pedos, homosexuality, violence, etc.

While sex is a natural biological function, our own actions regarding it are what lead to "perversions" of it. You can act like God pulls every single string on every human, but you're just search for something to blame instead of the individuals committing these horrible acts.

>>17901574
>The fact that sex exists opens up the potentiality for various sex acts. Pedos, homosexuality, violence, etc.
He could have designed human anatomy to change over a person's life in such a way as to make it literally impossible to rape children.

>>17901582
> B-but he shoulda done things the way I think they should be. He isn't real!!!

Then stop worrying about it. You can't control the way things are, especially by blaming something you don't believe in. Go to therapy.

>>17901598
>god shouldn't have done things the right way
Also what a shameless strawman you're making of that anon.

>>17901598
I think I've said several times in this thread that I am not an atheist and I do believe in God

>>17901599
Again. Seek therapy or at least someone real to talk to.

No one cares about your "strawman" arguments about a fictional being.

>>17901605
Read my post again.

>>17901604
If you believe in God, then why are you whining about the way things are. God is above you so your views of right and wrong and meaningless. If you can't understand the way things are then stop worrying.

>>17901609
>If you believe in God, then why are you whining about the way things are
Because I think he's evil.

>>17901623
That's fine, but doesn't help solve anything for you. Pestering others to answer an unanswerable question is you simply trying to be sadistic.

Again, seek help.

>>17901628
>Pestering others to answer an unanswerable question
My intent was to make you realize you can't answer it and to make you think about that, but I don't think you actually are capable of thinking about it in earnest.

>>17901628
>you simply trying to be sadistic.
God is sadistic. You are projecting his sick voyeurism and cruelty onto me.

"Since God is the highest good, He would not allow any children to be raped, unless His omnipotence and goodness were such as to bring good even out of baby anal tissue being ripped apart."
-St. Augustine

>>17901440
No. Only those who willingly reject evil deserve to go to heaven. If God simply makes you rigtheous then you have no credit for being righteous and deserve no reward.

>>17902203
>If God simply makes you rigtheous then you have no credit for being righteous
Do you not realise that is the ideal? A world where righteousness is special enough to be rewarded is far worse than a world where righteousness is ordinary enough to be as praiseworthy as breathing
Righteous people should not seek a personal reward, they should seek a better world

>>17898900 (OP)
you lost tranny