Thread 17899726

On this day 80 years ago, the US committed the war crime of dropping an atomic bomb on civilians in Hiroshima. Three days later, another bomb would be dropped on Nagasaki.
Japan accepted the Potsdam Declaration on August 15th, ending the war.

>>17899726 (OP)
Should’ve dropped them on Stalin and his henchmen.

>>17899726 (OP)

Based Christchads BTFO'ing Shintofags.

>>17899729
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the only two cities in Japan which had significant Catholic populations

It should be an annual tradition

80 years later Japan still bows down to the US when it no longer needs to. But it looks like US decline is catching up fast to the political class. Hopefully by the end of the decade Japan realizes there are better partners out there.

>>17899727
This

>>17899729
Christians also died in the bombings

>>17899741
You’re Chinese

>>17899729
>The atomic bombing of Nagasaki had a devastating impact on the city's Christian population, which was concentrated in the Urakami district. Approximately 10,000 Christians, out of a community of 15,000, perished in the bombing. This area was a historical center of Christianity in Japan, with a significant number of "hidden Christians" who had maintained their faith in secret for generations

>>17899742
Japan has many allies/partners, not just US.
I support US-Japan Alliance, but I think Japan should strengthen it’s Self Defence Forces so they aren’t so reliant on America.

>>17899758
Yet Harry Truman, who was a Christian, massacred the Christians of Japan. So much for “love thy neighbour.”

>>17899770

It's not like he would've fucking known that. You know Jesus asked God to spare the Romans who knew not what they were doing, right?

>>17899774
Whether he knew or not is irrelevant. Christian teachings forbids the killing of innocents. By dropping the atomic bombs, President Truman was committing the worse sin of his religion

>>17899770
>>17899790
He was a Prot. Jap Christians were overwhelmingly Caths

>>17899770
He did personally feel bad about it, that's why he was angry at Oppenheimer for whinning

>>17899814
There is no difference, both are Christian.
>>17899819
Truman was a war criminal who considered Japanese to be subhuman. He never regretted the bombings

Reminder Truman is the most powerful person who ever lived (the only human being in history to have access to nuclear weapons at a time when no other power had them) and frequently chose the less aggressive attitude. If he'd listened to MacArthur the world would have been destroyed

>>17899835
Namely the communist world, and nothing of value would have been lost.

>>17899835
> frequently chose the less aggressive attitude.
He unnecessary massacred the innocent people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He should be remembered as Hitler and Stalin are.
> If he'd listened to MacArthur the world would have been destroyed
MacArthur wanted to use atomic bombs against communists, who aren’t human

>>17899828
That is like saying a Suffi and a Sunni or a Shia are exactly the same.

>>17899729
Kill yourself faggot.

>>17899873
Netto uyoku, not even once

>>17899900
they're not?

>>17899900
They are

>>17899907
Are you denying that the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were innocent?

>>17899928
Unfortunately they may as well not be. The world doesn’t view them as innocent, history is written by the victors after all.

>>17899762
>strengthened their SDF
It already is one of the world's top armies

>>17899955
> history is written by the victors after all.
This is true unfortunately

>>17900001
It’s restricted by Article 9. Considering China, Russia and North Korea all have nuclear weapons and strong militaries, Japan needs a stronger Self Defence Force

>>17899922
>>17899926
S is every human equal? Yes or no?

>>17899928
Why didn't they leave when America dropped leaflets telling them their city was going to get blown up?

>>17899900
Sufi isn't a denomination

>>17900357
Moments after the pamphlets landed all the atoms in them mysteriously exploded

>>17900491
Norm MacDonald is Canadian, so by his own standard his own joke doesn't mean anything.

>>17900495
Canada has won every war it fought unlike its sandals

>>17900504
1812 is considered a Stalemate by most historians, my slow northern brother

>>17900504
canada had literally no culture or history that isn't related to or just a juxtaposition of america

>>17900630
You could say the same about Japan in relation to China. Or Korea in relation to Japan

>>17899774
He absolutely would have known that. You think they dropped the bomb at random? The targets chosen were chosen with deliberate intent to create the most morale damage as possible. They would have gotten a complete report about the nature of the whole city and its inhabitants

Japan would not have won in a war with the US
But Japan was unwilling to surrender, they were tunnel visioned in on their samurai ideals.
A land invasion would have resulted, with tens of millions of civilians killed, and most of the country completely destroyed.
The nuke WAS the more peaceful option. Even Japan would agree that it was better to be nuked, because it shook their stubborn government out of a suicidal war.

>>17900705
>The nuke WAS the more peaceful option
This is Allied propaganda. Japan was ready to make peace with the US mediated by Sweden and the USSR prior to the atomic bombings. It was the US that was stubborn with their unnecessary demand for unconditional surrender

>>17900357
>America dropped leaflets
This never happened

>>17899790
What does Shintoism and Buddhism teach about lining up prisoners and beheading them?

>>17899873
What is Communism anon?

>>17900514
By most American historians, yes.

>>17899726 (OP)
Americans are deservedly getting replaced by their hooknosed masters.

>>17900834
This is dishonestly reductive. Japan was internally willing negotiate peace, but only if their stringent terms were met. More importantly, however, they couldn't even agree of their own peace terms. The war cabinet was evenly split on the "four condition" vs "one condition" policy, with the former stating, in addition to retaining the emperor's status, that Japan would only surrender if 1. Japan would disarm its own forces; 2. Japan would conduct any war crimes trials of its own nationals; and 3. there would be no occupation of Japan.
This would have been analogous to a spree killer being allowed to pack up his guns, get in his vehicle, and drive home without the police pursuing or any subsequent legal prosecution. Nippon was greedy and they paid for it.

>>17899726 (OP)
I always thought it killed at least a million of people, but apparently its just 100-200k. Why are japs so butthurt about it when they were committing war crimes in china that made even germans cringe and were killing millions?

>>17899758
Manila was the historical center of Christianity in the entire eastern hemisphere. Didn't stop assmad Japanese sailors from torching cathedrals and butchering missionaries (many of whom were German) at bayonet point.

>>17899758
How was America supposed to know Christians were there if they were "hidden"?

>>17899726 (OP)
Why didn't they surrender earlier?

Prolonging an unnecessarily war is more criminal than ending it.