The Spanish really planned all of this just to have 2 fronts against the Turks lol

A Catholic nation in China would have been extremely based. The syncretism would be next level.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
Samuel Hawley claims that Spain was more powerful than Ming China. Note Samuel Hawley is not a historian, his books aren't published by universities and he has absolutely no credentials in the fields mentioned. Hawley also made multiple errors all over his book trying to make Korea and Japan look more powerful and China look weak and they were exposed by reviewers who pointed out what the primary sources actually said.

Then why did mere Chinese merchants kill Spanish governor general Gómez Pérez Dasmariñas and all his Spanish guards in 1593 after he tried to force them to row their ship and then hijack his galleys, kill his son Luis Pérez Dasmariñas in 1603 and every single one of his guards and took their heads as trophies, after Luis failed in the Spanish invasions of Cambodia in 1593 and 1597. Cham merchants and Malay merchants slaughtered almost the entire Spanish force in Cambodia. Luis was the one who planned to invade China in the first place and he boasted he could conquer China with 25 men, but Chinese merchants slaughtered him and all his guards. Only the exiled Japanese Catholics and Filipinos saved the Spanish in 1603.

Then in 1662, Chinese leader Zheng Chenggong (Koxinga) on Taiwan, who was commanding a rump force of Southern Ming remnants and just defeated the Dutch East India Company, sent a letter to the Spanish governor general in Manila and demanded tribute and threatened to invade the Spanish Philippines. The Spanish governor general was so scared that in 1663 he permanently withdrew every single Spanish soldier from the Maluku aka Moluccas island colony in modern day Indonesia, permanently losing Maluku forever (the Dutch later annexed it) and withdrew from Zamboanga on Mindanao for decades, exposing the Spanish to even more intensified Moro Muslim raids as he recalled the troops to defend Manila from the Chinese. The invasion was not carried out only because Koxinga died that year.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900087
in the 1660s and 1670s, Koxinga's son Zheng Jing issued multiple threats to the Spanish governor general in Manila demanding tribute payments, extradition and that he administer the Chinese community in the Philippines as his own subjects and the Spanish not convert them. The Spanish folded to almost all his demands and admitted they were weak and both the Dutch East India Company and English East India Company said that Zheng Jing could overrun the weak Spanish defences in Manila if he attacked. Zheng Jing continued to raid Dutch shipping capturing Dutch ships and the only reason his planned invasion of the Spanish Philippines was called off was because of the Three Feudatories war breaking out in China.

>As conditions for the opening of commerce, if we trust Jiang’s narrative, Zheng Jing required the Spanish to present a regular tribute of shipbuilding materials and refrain from harassing the vessels that sailed to Manila.184 We do not have sufficient information to determine whether the Spanish agreed to these specific terms, but they seemed quite willing to go out of their way to appease him. Indeed, Zheng Jing had threatened in his audience with the priest to “immediately dispatch his soldiers to punish” the Philippines should they fail to comply.185 In a letter to Mariana (r. 1665-1675), the Queen Regent of Austria, Governor Manuel de León (r. 1669-1677) warned that “these provinces [the Philippines] are in no state to be complaining to the neighboring kings, with the ease with which they move to any altercation.”186 As late as 1673, he wrote of sending an envoy to Zheng “who might admonish and persuade him to continue the peace,” one method possibly involving the presentation of tribute.187

>>17900091
>When de León eventually complied with the request, Queen-Regent Mariana expressed shock and horror at the decision. She stressed in her letter that “you cannot and should not” send these prisoners to him, as their “crime being so grave and averse to our sacred Religion…they were so justly condemned by the Courts.”193 She correctly believed that Zheng’s actions essentially treated the Chinese residents of the Philippines as his own subjects and grossly interfered with Spanish legal procedures. However, the Spanish officials in the colony could do very little except tolerate the extraterritorial interference and continue their policy of appeasement. Their well-armed but tiny garrison stood no match for the tens of thousands of soldiers Taiwan could muster in the event of armed conflict.194 In fact, by 1670, Zheng Jing and his officials were already seriously considering an invasion of the Philippines, and appeared, for all purposes, to be repeating the precedent set out by Chenggong toward the Dutch, until the outbreak of Rebellion of the Three Feudatories in 1674 put an end to their preparations.

>The expeditionary force planned to attack Manila after the monsoon season, in early 1671. Both the Dutch and English, who followed his maneuvers closely, believed that Jing would prevail, since the tiny Spanish garrison proved ill-prepared for any external threat.95

Samuel Hawley claims Ming China was so weak when mere Chinese merchants killed Spanish governor generals and southern Ming rump remnants forced Spain to lose one of its colonies forever. The Spanish also failed to conquer the Moro Muslim Sultanates to its south for centuries right up to the end of Spanish rule in the Philippines.

Spain also lost its colony in Keelung, Taiwan to the same Dutch East India company that Koxinga defeated in 1662 and his father Zheng Zhilong defeated at Liaoluo bay in 1633 and that the Ming defeated earlier in the Pescadores Penghu islands in 1624.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900096
Chinese in the Philippines also joined the Moro Muslim Sultanates in the 18th century as troops and wrecked havoc in raids against the Spanish in Luzon.

After Zheng Jing's son Zheng Keshuang surrendered to Han banner admiral Shi Lang in 1683, the Qing incoporated Zheng Jing and his rattan shield troops as Han bannermen and sent them north to fight against Russian Cossacks at Albazin since Manchu bannermen were unable to dislodge the Cossacks. The Han bannermen according to Qing officials routed the Cossacks in battle on the Amur river and massacred them and they forced Albazin fort's surrender. Koxinga had used his rattan shield troops against Dutch musketeers in battle after taking Fort Provintia but before the siege of Fort Zeelandia and they massacred the Dutch musketeers.

Samuel Jay Hawley claims the Japanese were so powerful, but a few outnumbered Portuguese destroyed a numerically superior Japanese force at the Fukuda bay battle in 1565 and embarrassed numerically superior Japanese at the Nossa Senhora da Graça incident in 1610. According to Japanese own accounts, the Japanese only managed to get the knowledge for musket making after a Japanese blacksmith in Tanegashima offered his own daughter Wakasa to a Portuguese man who showed him how.

Ming Chinese defeated the Portuguese at the Tamão aka Tumen battle in 1521 and at the Sincouwaan aka Qiancao aka Shancaowan aka Veniaga battle in 1522 where a Portuguese ship and cannons were captured by the Chinese. The Chinese then reverse engineered the captured Portuguese breech loading cannon themselves. Macau was later rented out by local provincial Guangdong officials to the Portuguese in exchange for annual payments of silver taels, it wasn't taken in a battle and the Portuguese also administered Nagasaki in Japan and they didn't pay rent for that.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900098
Samuel Jay Hawley claims the Japanese were so powerful, but the Japanese Tokugawa Shogunate asked the Dutch East India Company for help with a fleet to ferry and guard their troops to attack the Spanish Philippines, while the Chinese had their own fleet and defeated the Dutch East India Company and Portuguese several times while Japan defeated them zero times.

Even in 1857 Chinese Cantonese pirates led by Apak defeated Portuguese pirates from Macau in the Ningpo aka Ningbo incident.

>>17900087
>>17900091
>>17900096
Chink spammer the Spaniards regularly massacred Chinese merchants in the philippines by the tens of thousands but curiously STRONK china never did anything
STRONK china also had no problem with Portugal lording over Macau

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900101
Since you're clearly the same person as the dumbass in the comments of the video, here's a refutation of all your BS

ALL the wokou raiders of the 16th century (1500s) including the height of the Jiajing wokou raids when they caused the most trouble, were majority Chinese, on Chinese pirate ships led by Chinese pirate captains like Wang Zhi. Those were the raids that the person replying to you meant. And your dumbass falsely claimed the Jiajing raids were majority Japanese just because they were the most powerful.

The only Japanese majority wokou were the earlier 14th century wokou (1300s and early 1400s) on Japanese pirate ships with all Japanese crew.

They were easily crushed by the Ming dynasty without trouble. The Ming threatened to invade Japan if they didn't extradite Japanese pirates for execution.

The Ashikaga Shogun succumbed to the Ming threats and surrendered Japanese pirates to Ming China to be boiled alive in giant cauldrons in 1405.

Japanese sucked at naval warfare before the 19th century

Outnumbered Chinese ships slaughtered Japanese at battle of baekgang in the Tang dynasty and battle of Noryang in the Ming dynasty.

Ming Chinese ships also defeated both wokou (Japanese majority eokou of the 14th century and Chinese majority wikou of Jiajing in the 16th century) in naval battles.

The later Jiajing majority Chinese wokou had to avoid naval combat and head straight to the coast for land battles, because the Ming navy crushed all wokou.

Outnumbered Portuguese slaughtered Japanese at the battle of Fukuda Bay and Nossa Senhora da Graça incident.

Ming Chinese defeated the Portuguese in every naval battle, at Tamão (Tunmen) in 1521 and Veniaga (Shancaowan) in 1522.

Ming China defeated the Dutch at Pescadores (1624), Liaoluo bay (1633) and Taiwan (1662)

The same Dutch defeated Spain at the battle of San Salvador in Taiwan all 1642.

Japan begged the same Dutch for naval support against Spain in the Philippines.

>>17900076 (OP)
No

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900107
Now onto the other bullshit in your YouTube comments.

You mentioned the 1603 Samgley rebellion as an example of Japanese and Spanish military superiority

The Samgley rebellion was started when Spain planned to massacre Chinese diaspora civilian merchants and craftsmen. The Chinese rebels had zero military training and were all merchants and craftsmen like blacksmiths and tanners.

That's the same rebellion where Chinese merchant and craftsmen civilians massacred the Spanish governor general Luis Pérez Dasmariñas and all his men.

The same Luis who bragged he could conquer all of China with 25 men and was the one who suggested the Spanish invasion of China, and who tried invading Cambodia where all the Spanish were slaughtered.

Luis and his men were beheaded by Chinese civilian meechant rebels.

Then a force of Japanese Christia exiles AND FILIPINO Christian Indios came to save the Spanish from the Chinese merchant and craftsmen rebels.

The Spanish were better armed with heavy artillery (Chinese civilians had none).

The Filipinos Christians outnumbered the Chinese in the Philippines by 10000 to 1.

You pathetically tried to portray it as Japanese and Spanish defeating a numerically superior army of tens of thousands of trained Chinese soldiers.

Chinese also killed the father of Luis, Gomez Pérez Dasmariñas in 1593 when he tried enslaving them to row his galleys.

A Chinese rower gave a speech on how butchering Gomez or going down fighting was preferable to being galley slaves abd then they massacred Gomez and his entire Spanish crew.

Both Gomez and his son Luis were governor generals of the Philippines.

In 1662, Southern Ming remnants led by Koxinga (Zheng Chenggong) in Taiwan, who only controlled Taiwan and islands off China's coast like Xiamen (Amoy) and Jinmen (Kinmen) threatened to invade the Spanish Philippines.

Koxinga had a fraction of the Ming's military from its height.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900112
Koxinga defeated the Dutch in Taiwan, who defeated the Spanish in Taiwan in 1642.

The Spanish governor general shat in his pants at Koxinga's threat, and withdrew all Spanish troops from Maluku (Moluccas) in Indonesia and from Zamboanga in Mindanao, to reinforce Manila.

Spain lost its Indonesian Maluku colony forever. Spain lost Zamboanga in Mindanao for decades, not returning until later. Moros took advantage of the Spanosh withdrawal to do massive raids against the Spanish.

Spain lost an entire colony in East Indonesia because a Chinese sent a threatening letter.

Koxinga's son Zheng Jing forced Spain to pay tribute and allow Zheng Jing to have extra legal jurisdiction over Chinese in Manila, over Zheng Jing's threat of invading Manila.

Dutch and English observers said Spanish forces in Manila were weak and would be easily crushed by Zheng Jing. >>17900091 >>17900096

Chinese merchants and craftsmen participated in Moro Muslim raids against Spanish Manila in the 17th century and helped wreck Spanish military positions when British attacked the Philippines.

Chinese sent guns to the Moros against the Spanish in the 19th century.

Spain failed to conquer a divided Cambodia in its dark ages and civil war.

Spain failed to conquer Moro Muslim Sultanates for three centuries.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900119
I like how your dumb excuses for Spain losing in Cambodia and to Moros is that there were only 50 Spaniards in X battle and that means they could take on China.

Then Spain would lose even harder to Ming China since it could only send only 50 Spaniards again and China is even further by ocean from Spain than Cambodia and Mindanao.

Since you keep bragging there were only hundreds of Spanish against Aztecs (with hundreds of thousands of native allies) that means Spaniards shouldn't get any credit for conquering Aztecs

A few thousand Carthaginians conquered much of Spain.


>"In 1661, during the Siege of Fort Zeelandia, Koxinga executed Dutch missionary Antonius Hambroek and took his teenage daughter as a concubine. Other Dutch (or part Dutch) women were sold to Chinese soldiers to become their "wives". In 1684 some of these women were still captives of the Chinese."

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900124
>local governor of Guangdong simply cobbled local forces together and put em on boats to scare them away.

They didn't just scare then you retard.

The Ming navy defeated the Portugurse in battles in 1521 and 1522, sinking their ships, capturing their ships and cannon and executed their crew.

The Ming asp sunk Dutch ships and captured Dutch ships in 1633

The Ming militarily defeated them.

>According to historians Spain was probably inspired with conquering China by what the Wokou pirates tried doing in the 1560s. The pirate force pretty much conquered a coastal city and was marching unopposed to Beijing

You're full of shit, the major wokou raids were nowhere near Beijing. You're confusing it with Nanjing.

Secondly as I said the wokou raiders of the 1500s and Jiajing were on Chinese pirate ships owned by Chinese pirates like Wang Zhi and were majority Chinese.

The Chinese pirates cooperated with corrupt local gentry officials in the Jiangnan region who they had personal ties to, during their smuggling and raids.

Chinese pirate captain Wang Zhi came all the way from inland Anhui which is even further west and inland than Nanjing.

The Ming arrested Wang Zhi and executed him and his pirate network fell apart.

The 1300s Japanese led and crewed wokou never had that power and were defeated by the Ming easily and boiled alive .

Both wokou waves lost all naval battles with the Ming.

The second wave, the Jiajing wokou pirates avoided naval patrols and headed straight to land otherwise the Ming navy would massacre them.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900129
The entire Spanish conquistador force was slaughtered in Cambodia in 1593-1597.

Spain was defeated when trying to conquer Moro Muslims in Mindanao and Sulu.

Spain abandoned the Moluccas (Maluku) out of fear of Chinese attack in Manila and withdrew their troops from Moluccas forever.

Chinese merchants killed the Spanish governor generals Gomez Peres Dasmariñas and Luis Peres Dasmariñas.

>in b4 people claim Germanics like Dutch are superior and would have won

The Dutch got wrecked in Cambodia just a few decades after the Spanish.

The Chinese wrecked the Dutch at the Pescadores, Liaoluo bay and Taiwan.

Again you cope and try to claim Spanish are better at warfare and racially superior and it wasn't because Aztecs used stone age level weapons and had no gunpowder

And fail to explain how Cambodians (who had steel and gunpowder) wrecked Spanish conquistadors

>>17900087
>>17900091
>>17900135
Virgin Hawley : Balding manlet with no hair who makes up alt history and fanfiction in his head about how Korea could have been a great military power and how Spain could have, would have should have conquered China.

Chad reality: Korean girls got mass raped by Japanese in the Imjin war and Spanish governor general got their heads chopped off like animals and hoisted on pikes by Chinese and Spain permanently lost Maluku because of Chinese.


Also chad reality : Spanish invasion force in Cambodia got slaughtered to a handful of men by Malays and Chams.

Spain failed to conquer several Moro Muslim sultanates for hundreds of years. Spain failed to annex Brunei.

Samuel Hawley tried to make Korea look good in his book and whitewash the pathetic state of the Korean military during Joseon since he worked as a professor in South Korea.

It's mostly Koreans spamming the posts about Dasmarinas' plan for 200 Spanish to invade China (while in reality Chinese slaughtered and chopped the Spanish heads off both Dasmarinas father and son).

And Korea was raped by foreign conquerors for centuries

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900081
>>17900104
>>17900139
What if Phillip II actually authorize an invasion of China? I was reading a bit about these proposals in a book detailing the Japanese excursions in Korea and against the Ming Dynasty during the late 16th Century.

Chinese merchants slaughtered Spanish governor generals Gómez Pérez Dasmariñas in 1593 and slaughtered Luis Pérez Dasmariñas and beheaded Luis and all his soldiers and Luis bragged he could conquer China with 25 men in 1603. Spanish ruled in the Philippines was only saved by Japanese exile Catholics and local Filipino tribesmen after the slaughter of Luis and his guard.

In 1662, Koxinga's southern Ming remnant, the kingdom of Tungning on Taiwan sent one letter to the Spanish governor general of the Philippines, threatening him and leading the Spanish to withdraw its soldiers from the entire Maluku Islands (Maluku) in Indonesia in 1663 and lose it forever and withdraw and abandon Zamboanga on Mindanao for decades.

>>17900143

It gets even funnier:

The guy who planned on conquering China for Spain was Luis Perez Dasmarinas, Governor of the Philippines in the late 1500s and a wannabe conquistador who wanted to be like his early 16th century idols like Cortez or Pizarro.

In reality, he was fucking pathetic as Philippine Governor:
>Tried fighting Southern Moro Muslims & got booted off.
>Forced to end his Muslim Campaigns when Toyotomi Hideyoshi threatened to invade the Philippines if Spain didn't stop sending missionaries.
>Dasmarinas panicked, and took every Spanish soldier to Manila to defend the capital.
>Hideyoshi invaded Korea instead, but all soldiers were in Manila, Muslim Moros raided & enslaved Spanish subjects who were left defenseless.

>In 1593 Dasmarinas announced his plans invade China for Spain.
>He thought Cambodia was a nice place to start since Khmers were weak..
>Ridiculously fucking lost to the Cambodians who were undergoing the worst period in history: the Khmer Dark ages.

His term as governor ended in 1596 but he remained in the Philippines to pursue his conquistador dream so his retardation continued.
>1596.
>He attempted another expedition to Conquer Cambodia.
>His fleet got blown off-course by a typhoon and landed near an Island near Macau.
>Portuguese got pissed off and attacked the expedition, driving it back to the Philippines.

Dasmarinas met his end in 1603 when the Chinese merchants & immigrants in Manila rebelled against racist Spanish decrees. After 20,000 Chinese rebels- just mere peasants & rebels- surrounded Manila, Dasmarinas demanded that the Spanish should counterattack, but the new Governor told him to wait for reinforcements instead. Dasmarinas got pissed off, yelled "TWENTY-FIVE SPANIARDS ARE ENOUGH TO CONQUER ALL OF CHINA" and sallied out with like a hundred men.

The Chinese peasants merely lured him into a swamp and slaughtered his conquistadors piecemeal. His head was propped up in the siege lines the next day.

Filipino Filipinos

>>17900104
It looks like the Spic Moor rapebaby can't read

Chinese beheaded Spanish Governor general Gomez Pérez Dasmariñas and all his bodyguards in 1593.

Chinese then beheaded his son Governor general Luis Pérez Dasmariñas in 1603 and all of his Spanish guards, waving their heads on pikes

Then a huge army of Filipinos who outnumbered the Chinese attacked and put down the uprising.

Chinese in 1662 threatened to invade Manila, and scared the Spanish governor general so much that in 1663 he abandoned Maluku (Moluccas) in Indonesia permanently and abandoned Zamboanga fort on Mindanao for decades, fo pull back troops to protect Manila.

Moro Muslims launched massive raids against Manila.

4,000 Chinese in Manila moved south to Jolo, capital of the Moro Muslim Sulu sultanate and joined the Moros in pillaging and raiding the Spanish in Luzon and the Visayas in the 18th century.

Chinese sent rifles and ammunition to Moros in Sulu in the 19th century.

Cambodians, Chams and Malays massacred the entire Spanish invasion force in Cambodia in 1593-1597.

Portugal didn't conquer Macau, Portugal paid 500 taels of silver EVERY YEAR to China to rent Macau since 1557.

Macao was leased for annual payment.

Ming China defeated Portugal in every battle like Tamão (Tunmen) in 1521 and Veniaga (Xicaowan) in 1522 and captured their ships and breech loading cannons (Folangji).

>>17900087
>>17900091
>>17900139
>>17900143
>>17900147
Japanese sold Korean girls to Portuguese in Macau and Southeast Asia as sex slaves

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=A3HsCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA93&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=p3yW5MdzKnUC&pg=PA114

>>17900087
>>17900091
>>17900139
>17900143
>>17900147
>>17900191
Japanese sold Koreans as slaves to Portuguese in the Imjin war including Korean sex slaves

Korean women gave birth to Portuguese fathered babies in Macau.

Japanese also raped Korean girls in barley fields during Imjin war.

Ming Chinese troops raped Korean girls during the Imjin war, accusing their families of being Japanese collaborators

>>17900104
nigga chinks simply allowed the portugese to rule macau.
its funny how china keeps BTFOing spaniards

The anti-Spanish Chink is having a melty again. He spams that same shit over and over again for years now.

>>17900470
China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Le HECKING BASED" dishonorable Spaniard Latinx tradcath conquistadors mutts without a history that spread nothing but chaos, destruction, disease and dysgenia to the stable, developed lands they conquered. Thank God the Ming locked in to prevent China from becoming another Philippines, Latin America or another Spanish colonial rape disaster colony, where you'd have Hispanist slave internet tradcucks moralizing about how "evil" and inferior precolonial Chinese society was.

>>17900076 (OP)
Everyone in this thread needs to get a life

>>17900201
If the chinese just let the Portuguese hold a part of their territory for some reasons then why did they try to retake it and failed
>>17900590
The failure of modern latin america are largely accountable on pre columbian influence. Peru and Bolivia are deep shitholes while Uruguay is decent

>>17900648
>why did they try to retake it and failed

Are the Moor rape genes affecting your IQ?

>>17900189

>Portugal didn't conquer Macau, Portugal paid 500 taels of silver EVERY YEAR to China to rent Macau since 1557.

>Macao was leased for annual payment.

>Ming China defeated Portugal in every battle like Tamão (Tunmen) in 1521 and Veniaga (Xicaowan) in 1522 and captured their ships and breech loading cannons (Folangji).


Portugal bribed the Guangdong provincial authorities AND paid annual rent to lease Macau.

Portugal did not even exercise sovereignty over Macau until after the Opium wars in the mid 19th century.

Macau was officially under China's sovereignty with Portugal paying annual rent to live there, during the Ming, and the Qing until the 1840s.

Portugal even issued an official surrender to the Qing authorities after Han banner general Shang Kexi took over Guangdong from the Southern Ming dynasty, recognising the Qing government as suzerain of Macau.

The Qing authorities in Beijjng then debated with Guangdong provincial officials about deporting the entire population of Macau

Portugal sent a bribe of African lions to Beijing and begged them not to attack and deport.

Portugal only stopped paying rent and officially annexed Macau after the 1840s Furst Opium war when Britain attacked and took over Hong Kong.

Portuguese pirates still lost to Chunese pirates led by Ah Pak in the 1857 Ningpo massacre.

>>17900648
>>17900716

>In their first attempts at obtaining trading posts by force, the Portuguese were defeated by the Ming Chinese at the Battle of Tunmen in Tamão (or Tuen Mun) in 1521, where the Portuguese lost two ships; the Battle of Sincouwaan in Lantau Island where the Portuguese also lost two ships; in Shuangyu in 1548, where several Portuguese were captured; and near the Dongshan Peninsula in 1549, where two Portuguese junks and Galeote Pereira were captured. During these battles the Ming Chinese captured weapons from the defeated Portuguese which they then reverse engineered and mass-produced in China such as matchlock musket arquebuses which they named bird guns and breech-loading swivel guns which they named as Folangji (Frankish) cannon because the Portuguese were known to the Chinese under the name of Franks at this time. The Portuguese later returned to China peacefully and presented themselves under the name Portuguese instead of Franks in the Luso-Chinese agreement (1554) and rented Macau as a trading post from China by paying annual lease of hundreds of silver taels to Ming China.[31] Luso-Canton trade relations were formally reestablished in 1554 and Portugal soon after acquired a permanent lease for Macau in 1557,[32] agreeing to pay 500 taels of silver as annual land rent.

Portuguese who came to China in 1557 even tried to deny they were the same people as the Portuguese in 1521 and 1532 who lost against China.

The Portuguese were first known as Franks (Folangji) to Ming authorities, which is why Portuguese cannons captured by the Ming in 1522 were called Folangji.

The Portuguese in 1557 claimed they weren't Franks and instead used their real name (Portuguese) denying anything to do with the earlier battles.

>>17900648
>>17900716
>In their first attempts at obtaining trading posts by force, the Portuguese were defeated by the Ming Chinese at the Battle of Tunmen in Tamão (or Tuen Mun) in 1521, where the Portuguese lost two ships; the Battle of Sincouwaan in Lantau Island where the Portuguese also lost two ships; in Shuangyu in 1548, where several Portuguese were captured; and near the Dongshan Peninsula in 1549, where two Portuguese junks and Galeote Pereira were captured. During these battles the Ming Chinese captured weapons from the defeated Portuguese which they then reverse engineered and mass-produced in China such as matchlock musket arquebuses which they named bird guns and breech-loading swivel guns which they named as Folangji (Frankish) cannon because the Portuguese were known to the Chinese under the name of Franks at this time. The Portuguese later returned to China peacefully and presented themselves under the name Portuguese instead of Franks in the Luso-Chinese agreement (1554) and rented Macau as a trading post from China by paying annual lease of hundreds of silver taels to Ming China.[31] Luso-Canton trade relations were formally reestablished in 1554 and Portugal soon after acquired a permanent lease for Macau in 1557,[32] agreeing to pay 500 taels of silver as annual land rent.

Portuguese who came to China in 1557 even tried to deny they were the same people as the Portuguese in 1521 and 1532 who lost against China.

The Portuguese were first known as Franks (Folangji) to Ming authorities, which is why Portuguese cannons captured by the Ming in 1522 were called Folangji.

The Portuguese in 1557 claimed they weren't Franks and instead used their real name (Portuguese) denying anything to do with the earlier battles.

>>17900725
Tens of thousand of Chinese were massacred in the Philipines but China somehow never retaliated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passale%C3%A3o_incident
>saaaaar we let Macao to the portuguese on purpose o algo

>>17900763
Read dumb Moor rapebaby

>Portugal did not even exercise sovereignty over Macau until after the Opium wars in the mid 19th century.

>Macau was officially under China's sovereignty with Portugal paying annual rent to live there, during the Ming, and the Qing until the 1840s.

>Portugal only stopped paying rent and officially annexed Macau after the 1840s Furst Opium war when Britain attacked and took over Hong Kong.

>Portuguese pirates still lost to Chunese pirates led by Ah Pak in the 1857 Ningpo massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningpo_massacre


Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passale%C3%A3o_incident#Aftermath


>The Portuguese proceeded to assemble a naval flotilla for a punitive expedition. The frigate Dona Maria II, the corvettes Irís and Dom João I and some armed lorchas gathered in the harbour on 29 October 1850 to fire a salute in honour of King Ferdinand II on his birthday. After the salute, and just before the local elites could board the Dona Maria II for the celebrations, the frigate exploded. The cause was sabotage by the keeper of the magazine with a grudge against the captain. Nearly 200 men died and the expedition was called off. A memorial to the victims of the Dona Maria II tragedy, erected in 1880, still stands by the site of the old fort in Taipa.[c][2]

>>17900749
Chinese slaughtered the Spanish governor general Gomez and all his troops in 1593 and beheaded them without retaliation.

Chinese then beheaded his son Govenor general Luis and all his Spanish troops in 1603 and waved their heads on pikes in Manila.

Luis boasted he could conquer China with 25 men just before he and all his men were beheaded (who were more than 25).

Luis and his Spanish soldiers were beheaded by Chinese civilian craftsmen armed with bladed weapons and almost no guns, with no military traning.

Then tens of thousands of Filipinos who outnumered the Chinese came to save the remaining Spanish and it was Filipinos who did the killings against Chinese.

In 1662, Chinese sent a letter and threatened to invade Manila after Filipinos attacked Chinese again in Manila, and Spain lost the Moluccas (Maluku) in Indonesia forever as it pulled back all troops to defend Manila on 1663.

Spain lost the Moluccas just because of one single letter, one piece of paper.

Spain also pulled back soldiers from Zamboanga on Mindanao for decades to defend Manila in 1663.

Moro Muslims repeatedly raided Luzon and slaughtered Filipinos and Spanish

Zheng Jing forced Spanish in Manila to pay tribute to him in the 1660s and 1670s

Chinese also murdered a Spanish constable and officials in the 1680s.

4,000 Chinese in Manila joined Moro Muslims in Jolo in the 1700s and raided Luzon, killing Spanish and Filipinos.

Chinese supplied modern rifles to the Moros in Jolo in the late 1800s as they were fighting the Spanish and carrying out martyrdom juramentado attacks on Spanish soldiers.

Chinese murdered multiple Spanish governor generals, constables and caused Spain to lost the Moluccas forever by just sending a letter.

>>17900763
>>17900810
Portugal stopped paying rent and annexed Macau only in the 1840s after the first opium war.

Macau was under China's sovereignty and Portugal paid annual rent of 500 silver taels each year to live there for nearly three hundred years.

Portugal exercised official sovereignty over Macau for less than 160 years.

Portugal's control was de facto gone after the 1960s riots, China did not want to handle expenses of running Macau after the Carnation revolution and told Portugal that the hand over would take place in the 1990s.

>>17900763
>>17900810
>>17900824

You're also not reading the own article you posted Moor retard.

Portugal didn't dare do any of this before the first opium War.

Portugal only officially annexed Macau right before this battle happened, for 300 years they didn't do any of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passale%C3%A3o_incident#Changes_in_Portuguese_policy

>Changes in Portuguese policy
The Portuguese governor João Maria Ferreira do Amaral had adopted a confrontational stance towards the Chinese, as displayed in the earlier revolt of the faitiões (October 1846). In early 1849 he proposed to extend a road from the walls of the city to the Chinese border. This required the relocation of some Chinese graves. Further, he ordered Chinese residents within the walls to pay taxes to the Portuguese authorities and no longer to the imperial mandarins.[2]

>Amaral also placed stricter controls on the lorcha traffic and tried to stop the mandarins from collecting customary dues from the Tanka people who lived on boats in the harbour, since Macau was a free port. The mandarins retained two customs houses,[b] one at the Inner Harbour (Praia Pequena) and one at the Outer Harbour (Praia Grande). They refused to close them at Amaral's request, so on 5 March he proclaimed them closed. The mandarins still did not budge and, on 13 March, they were forcibly expelled. Amaral informed the mandarins of Zhongshan that if they ever visited Macau they would be received as foreign dignitaries.[3]

>By all these moves the mandarins—and the Chinese state—stood to lose significant revenue. The Chinese inhabitants of Macau were inflamed. Placards offering a reward for the head of Amaral were posted in Guangzhou (Canton).[2] The governor, however, had achieved his goal of Macanese independence from China: for the legations of Spain, the United Kingdom and the United States accredited to China had chosen to stay in Macau while awaiting permission to enter China.[3]
>Passaleão incident

>>17900763
>>17900810
>>17900832
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_the_Faiti%C3%B5es

>The Revolt of the Faitiões (Chinese: 十·八慘案; Portuguese: Revolta dos Faitiões) was an armed insurrection against Portuguese rule in Macau that took place on 8 October 1846. The revolt was prompted by a duty imposed on the faitiões ("fast boats [junks]", from Chinese fai teang) by the new governor. João Maria Ferreira do Amaral had been appointed governor of Macau on 21 April 1846 in the aftermath of the First Opium War, when the Portuguese wanted to assert their rights against a weak and defeated China and resist British power.[1

Portugal didn't dare do this before the first opium war because they remembered losing the battles of Tamão and Veniaga against the Ming and remembered they literally had to send a gift of African lions and beg the Qing government not to deport them in the 17th century

Portugal literally sent a surrender document to the Qing Han bannerman Shang Kexi when he took over Guangdong from the Ming, saying they recognised they were now under Qing sovereignty

Russia was also defeated by Qing Han bannermen (former Southern Ming troops of Zheng Jing) in Albazin in the 1680s, and Russia conceded the Amur to the Qing

In the 1700s, Serbian diplomat Count Sava Lukich Vladislavich-Raguzinsky worked for Russia in China

Count Sava gave the same assessment of Qing defences in Albazin, saying Russia would lose a war to the Qing if they tried attacking them

Russia and Portugal only moved against China after Britain attacked in the first opium war in the 1840s

Portugal annexed Macau and stopped paying rent and customs revenue to China only in the 1840s, and only started taxing Chinese living in Macau as Portuguese citizens at that time

They didn't dare do that for almost 300 years

Russia seized outer Amur region from China in middle of the second opium war

Russia never made a move in the entire 1700s because they remembered their defeats at Albazin

>>17900847
Before the 1840s, Chinese in Macau paid taxes only to China necause Macau was Chinese sovereign territory under the lease.

Portug didn't dare do any of that for almost 300 years. Portugal remembered they were militarily weaker than China in the 1500s and 1600s and didn't want to find out if that was still true even with modern industrial weapons, until the British attacked in the 1840s and annexed Hong Kong.

Russia also assumed even with their modernised military, that the military situation was the same as the 1600s and 1700s and that Russia would lose in an attack on the Amur, until the Opium wars.

Russia annexed the Amur while Britain and France were fighting the Qing.

China had a permanent British base in Hong Kong after the first opium war and if it went to war with Portugal or Russia, Britain would seize more.

Portuguese still lost this after officially annexing Macau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningpo_massacre

>The Ningpo Massacre was a massacre of Portuguese pirates by Cantonese pirates led by Ah Pak around the city of Ningbo. During the Qing dynasty, in the 19th century, the Ningbo authorities contracted Cantonese pirates to eliminate by extermination Portuguese pirates who raided Cantonese shipping around Ningbo. The campaign was "successful", with 40 Portuguese dead and only two Chinese dead, being dubbed "The Ningpo Massacre" by an English correspondent,

I don't know why the chink spammer is seething so hard. Portugal had good relations with the Ming and both benefited greatly from each other and also didn't have any autistic LARP fantasies like the Spanish

>>17900763
>>17900859
A British journalist during the 1857 Ningbo massacre openly said Chinese did not view Portuguese as Europeans and were militarily capable of taking Macau, but feared the intervention of other western powers.

>The fishermen and carrying junks, glad to be rid of the Portuguese yoke, gradually transferred their custom to the Cantonese fleet, and the Portuguese, hungry and furious, became more active in their piracies, and attacked the Cantonese ships when they could get them at an advantage, and murdered their crews with circumstances of great atrocity.

>The Cantonese do not look upon the Portuguese as Europeans. They have not the same fear of them. They can fight them man to man. Macao would have been taken by the Chinese long since, had they not dreaded the interference of the other Western powers. After a few of these very sanguinary provocations, A'Pak-not, it is believed, without the concurrence of the Toutai of Ningpo determined to destroy this Portuguese convoy fleet

>For this purpose A'Pak's brother collected his snake-boats and convoy junks from along the whole coast, and assembled about twenty of them, and perhaps 500 men. The Portuguese were not long hearing of these preparations, but they seem to have been struck with panie. Some of their vessels went south, some were taken at the mouth of the river. Seven lorchas took refuge up the river, opposite the Portuguese consulate. The sailors on board these lorchas landed some of their big guns, and put the consulate in a state of defence, and perhaps hoped that the neighbourhood of the European houses and the character of the consulate would prevent an attack.

>Not so

>>17900861
It's a Spanish person bringing up Portugal in his argumemt. Tell him to shut up.

>>17900763
>>17900859
>>17900876
>On the day I have above mentioned the Canton fleet came up the river. The Portuguese consul immediately fled. The lorchas fired one broadside at them as they approached, and then the crews deserted their vessels, and made for the shore. About 200 Cantonese, accompanied by a few Europeans, followed these 140 Portuguese and Manilla-men ashore. A fight took place in the streets. It was of very short duration, for the Portuguese behaved in the most dastardly manner. The Manilla-men showed some spirit, but the Portuguese could not even persuade themselves to fight for their lives behind the walls of their consulate. The fortified house was taken and sacked by these, Chinamen, the Portuguese were pursued among the tombs, where they sought refuge, and forty of them were shot down, or hunted and butchered with spears.

>>17900861
England had good relations with Portugal but English soldiers still raped and killed Portuguese in 1381 when they were supposed to be on the same side.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17503041/#q17503041

Soldiers and pirates tend to act like retards and don't care about international relations.

>>17900648
>The failure of modern latin america are largely accountable on pre columbian influence. Peru and Bolivia are deep shitholes while Uruguay is decent
Spanish colonies during revolutions and post-independence were mostly led by white Spaniard-like Castizos. The pre-Columbian empires destroyed by Spain were very developed and full of well-built architecture as well as their own advancing civilizations. If China was destroyed then muttified by Moor rape gene infused invaders and as a result had terrible South America-like development and crime, you as well as your Hispanista brothers would blame the pre-muttified Chinese as well

>>17900087
>>17900091
>>17900096
>>17900098
Japanese Samurai BVLLs demolished the entirety of China, Chinese teenage girls were comfort women to Samurai warriors, Chinese "men" were defeated effortlessly by superior Japanese fighting men.
China needed the United States and the USSR to save them from total annihilation at the hands of superior Japanese men.
Powerful heavily built robust Jomonid males with facial hair and great strength in their limbs literally tore apart weaker smaller chinese boys.
within 25 years china would become ground zero for the largest political upheaval in human history, centering on two African males two black BVLLs having TOO MANY Chinese girl friends on campus, chinese boys saw their future wives being ruined by two wild savage africans and formed the largest student posse in history to control them, but the african bvlls literally outnumbered 1500:1
beat
the
shit
out of the chinese students leading to the largest student protest in history as the chinese army was the only organization in china capable of removing two proud black BVLLS from the arms of Chinese girls.
The Century of Humiliation marched onward, becoming a millennia of shame.
Today China's population wanes, as chinese men die alone and chinese women have 1 child per woman, typically, with males from african or japanese extraction.

China is finished!

>>17900076 (OP)
It was an stupid plan because Spain and China always have had good diplomatic relations and the only warmonggers in the region were Japanese that over and over claimed to invade the Filipinas and Jihadists from Indonesia since Islam is a sect centered on war and terrorism.

Who cares desu, it was the plan of the politician in Filipinas to cover himself in glory as Hernán Cortés or Pizarro before him.

Spain and China at the end, ended up being close economic and political partners in the Asian-Pacific region.

From China many artisans and traders arrived to Filipinas and New Spain (ie, today, Méjico), as well exotic and luxury products as silk and potteries very values in Spain since to this day Chinese stuff is highly regarded in Spain. Also, Jesuits, Franciscans and Dominicans were welcomed in Chinese court and allowed to preach the Gospel and teach Catholic theology and metaphysics.
And for China, the Spanish gold and silver dollars were used to trade with the whole regions straight into XX century when Mao finally replaced it, also traded weapons and wine with missions from California.

Philip II was quite right at making of China an economic partner. Just as Sánchez is doing today. Making war on China to make war on Turks was plainly stupid, desu once you explore all the oceans and unknown seas with unknown islands and kingdoms, the Old World gets small.

Why the hell would Philip II seek a confrontation with an economically declining Mahommedan empire stuck as Middle-Ages if the Silk Road was totally dead after the vollages of Columbus, Magellan, Elcano and Vasco da Gama?

The relations between Spain and China were so good during XVI and XIX centuries that prior to Oppium wars, only Spanish ambassador was allowed to enter the Forbidden City while other nations ambassadors, ie, French, Dutch, British, etc., were forbidden from doing so.

>>17900822
>they murdered some officials here and there
Ok so this vs tens of thousands of chinks being lynched to death. Talk about some lame retaliation lol

>>17901766
Imagine a spic thinking his "civilization" is better than that of the Chinese and desperately making posts like this to save face for his raped race. I'm not even Chinese but its funny to imagine the inferiority complex you have

>>17901771
Spain is historically superior to China in every way conceivable. The only reason China is more relevant today is because there's 2 billions chinese and barely 40 millions Spaniards. But a single Spaniard is well worth half a dozen of chinese by himself
>raped race
Spain is one of the most homogenous group in the world and China might as well be the most raped race on earth

>>17901766
A few Chinese civilians with no guns and only knives lynched and beheaded hundreds of Spanish soldiers in 1593. There weren't tens of thousands of Chinese on Gomez's ships when he and his entire guard were massacred.

Chinese civilians did it again in 1603 and beheaded Luis and all his Spanish soldiers with only knives and spears.

Hundreds of of thousands of Filipinos with cannons who outnumbered Chinese then descended on the Chinese quarter.

Cambodians, Malays and Chams massacred every Spanish soldier on Cambodia in 1597.

Moro Muslims raided and killed Spanish in the Philippines for 300 years. Chinese joined the Moros in killing Spanish.

Spain didn't even dare sic Filipinos on the Chinese quarter again after 1663, there was no massacred in the 1680s when Chinese killed the Spanish constable or in the 1700s when 4,000 Chinese from Manila joined the Moro Sulu Sultanate army against Spain and when Chinese attacked Spanish during the British occupation of Manila.

>>17901795
Spain was mass raped by Semitic Carthaginians and their Berber mercenaries, then Spain was raped by Iranic Alans from the steppe who followed the Vandals and Visigoths during the Migration period, then mass raped by Moors (including Berbers again) in Al-Andalus.

And then Spain was mass raped by Napoleon's army and the British in the Peninsular war (Napoleon's paternal Y-DNA is E1b from Moor origin)

And Franco's Berbers from the Rif mass raped Spain again in the Spanish civil war along with the international brigade.

Carthaginians introduced civilisation and writing after conquering Spain.

Your kings (Austrian Habsburgs and French Bourbons and house of Burgundy Trastámara Ivrea) were all foreigners.

>>17901295

Japanese tradition of pimping Japanese women to Han Chinese students and political exiles like Sun Yat-sen who pumped and dumped them and left the bastard children behind in Japan (aka great great grandparents of Japanese anons)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Wei-kuo#Early_life

Born in Tokyo when Chiang Kai-shek and the KMT were exiled to Japan by the Beiyang Government, Chiang Wei-kuo was the biological son of Tai Chi-tao and a Japanese woman, Shigematsu Kaneko (重松金子).[1][2][3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haru_Asada

Haru Asada (浅田春, Haru Asada, 1882 - 1902) was the Japanese concubine of Sun Yat-sen, the founder of the Republic of China.[1]

Asada was born in Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan, and spoke both fluent Chinese and English. She encountered Sun when she worked as a maid in Sun's house in Yokohama. She died in 1902, and Sun married Kaoru Otsuki in 1904.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaoru_Otsuki

Kaoru Otsuki (大月薰, Ōtsuki Kaoru, August 6, 1888 – December 21, 1970), born in Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan, was the second wife of Sun Yat-sen, founder of the Republic of China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Baili#Personal_life

Jiang married twice. His first wife was Zha Pinzhen (查品珍). His second wife was Satô Yato (佐藤屋登), a nurse he met in Japan. He had five children: Jiang Zhao (蔣昭), Jiang Yong (蔣雍), Jiang Ying, Jiang Hua (蔣華) and Jiang He (蔣和). His third daughter, Jiang Ying, became a musician and married the scientist Qian Xuesen. Jiang was also distantly related to the wuxia novelist Louis Cha through his first wife Zha Pinzhen, who was a distant aunt of Cha.

>>17901295
>>17901928

Over a million Korean prostitutes served Japanese businessmen and American soldiers

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/16658070/#q16659572

>>16659572

Over 200,000 Korean girls were prostituted to Japanese businessmen in the 1970s.

https://newint.org/features/1993/07/05/sex#:~:text=They%20lighted%20on%20the%20Kisaeng,sales%20point%20for%20Japanese%20men.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/43923277

https://books.google.fr/books?id=tNNyDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT294&lpg=PT294&dq=%22these+developments+in+the+latter+part+of+the+decade%22&source=bl&ots=o57QUcXOV1&sig=ACfU3U1ye5cK7o37ls01HC9CTRlc67G9Lw&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5_c2Jw5L7AhX7_7sIHcuDAxoQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22these%20developments%20in%20the%20latter%20part%20of%20the%20decade%22&f=false

https://g-turs.com/j-tour/japan-tour-holiday-pantip.html

https://www.academia.edu/40146397/International_Cases_in_Tourism_Management

https://books.google.fr/books?id=OwssBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA314&lpg=PA314&dq=%22They+lighted+on+the+Kisaeng,+a+traditional+Korean+dinner+and+provocative+entertainment,+as+the+main+sales+point+for%22&source=bl&ots=SXbgbcjtDM&sig=ACfU3U2UMEuDOHT0imB5oQMAAFXvWgP-jw&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjE5pyYwpL7AhUsgP0HHf-uBT0Q6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>17901295
>>17901928
>>17901938
Chinese men from Fujian were grooming and importing Japanese women from Japan to Fujian, China in the 1920s, just a few years before Japan attacked China and set up Manchukuo.


https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17164434/#q17164434

>>17164434

Japan was a sex tourism destination for Chinese men for the past millenia


70,000 Japanese girls were prostituted to allied soldiers in the recreation and amusement association after 1945.

Over 100,000 Japanese girls were prostituted as karayuki-san to Han Chinese men and western men in the Meiji and Taisho periods to raise money to industrialize Japan and spy in other countries.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14238771/#q14241373

And before that tons of Japanese girls were given to foreign Han Chinese merchants and Portuguese men and Dutch men during Sengoku Jidai and Tokugawa (Edo) as well.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12244603/#q12249572

Japanese Karayuki-san prostitutes in French Indochina refused Annamese (Vietnamese) men as clients and only slept with French soldiers and Han Chinese men.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9505389/#q9508255

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9505389/#q9525108
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14238771/#q14241373

Japanese teenage girls whose families were killed in the firebombings and roasted alive and atomic bombing in Hiroshoma were forced into prostitution in the Recreation and Amusement association.

Over 100,000 Japanese men, women and children were roasted to death in one day in Tokyo during the firebombings in Operation Meetinghouse

Hirohito the cuck watched his capital and palace burn down and his women, both Japanese commoners and his own relatives get fucked by foreign men.

America then paid Japanese to experiment on Japanese children.

>>17901295
>>17901928
>>17901938
>>17901942
Every Chinese student, merchant and exile in Meiji Japan had Japanese concubines, like Sun Yatsen, Cong Liangbi, Dai Jitao

Japanese were mass raped by Jurchens (Manchus) in the Toi pirate raids of 1019


Jurchens (Manchus) gang raped Jaanese girls while the Japanese navy was powerless to intervene.


China wrecked and destroyed Japan in every single naval battle before the Meiji restoration.

Japanese outnumbered Chinese at the battle of baekgang and Noryang point. China curbstomped Japan in both battles.

Japanese outnumbered Portuguese at the battle of Fukuda Bay. The Portuguese stomped on the Japanese and Portugiese took Japanese slave girls.

China defeated the same Portuguese at the battle of Tamão (Tunmen) in 1521 and battle of Veniaga (Shancaowan) in 1522.

Japan was a sex tourism destination for Chinese men for centuries. Hideyoshi and the Tokugawa shogunate provided Chinese merchants with Japanese girls.

Japan sold over 100,000 Japanese teenage girls as prostitutes to Chinese coolies and Western colonies in the Meiji restoration to modernise their military.

Japan's first naval victory against China was with the British built Meiji fleet paid for by Japanese prostitutes.

Japan used human wave attacks against outnumbered Russians at Port Arthur and Nanshan and were massacred by Russian machine guns.

Japan begged Jews like Jacob Schiff to find them against Russia.

Japan's entire technological advantage against China in World War II was based on technology given to them by Britain and US (sempill mission) in exchange for Japanese prostitutes.

Japan lost every war with China before Meiji restoration.

Japanese admitted they compensated for numbers in World war II against China by western technology like mustard gas and tanks (gives to the by Britain) and they would have been curbstomped without western technology

>>17164434

>>17901295
>chinese women have 1 child per woman

Japan and South Korea both have below replacement fertility with rapidly shrinking and aging populations.

By the way retard, one child policy only applied to the WOMEN.

Han men who married ethnic minority women like Tibetan women, Oroqen women and Vietnamese Kinh women could breed multiple children.


Japanese literally sold their own daughters to black slaves of Portuguese to get fucked by niggers


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Osaka

Naomi Osaka was born on October 16, 1997, in Chūō-ku, Osaka in Japan to Tamaki Osaka (大坂 環, Ōsaka Tamaki) and Leonard François.[1] Her mother is from Nemuro, Hokkaido, Japan, and her father is from Jacmel, Haiti. She has an older sister named Mari who is a former professional tennis player. The two girls were given their mother's family name for practical reasons when the family lived in Japan. Osaka's parents met when her father was visiting Hokkaido while he was a college student in New York.[2][3]


Japanese sold their own girls as sex slaves to black slaves of Portguese

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9505389/#q9534984

>>17901295
>>17901965

Japan and Korea are both not ethnic concepts.

You can be product of big black dick and Japanese woman, like Naomi Osaka, and be a full Japanese citizen.

Same in Korea like Insooni (Kim In-soon).

Korea and Japanese don't even have patrilineal rule unlike Han. Korean erhnic group has hundreds of clans of foreign male descent who ejaculated into Korean passes, like Deoksu Jang clan whose male ancestor was Central Asian Muslim who fucked a Korean girl.

Deoksu Jang are considered fully ethnic Korean.

Meanwhile Han ethnicity traces it's paternal lineage to yellow emperor and your paternal lineage needs to be Han.


DNA evidence says otherwise incel.

Northern Han Y DNA is the same as 3000 years ago.

Northern Han and Southern Han are the FURTHEST pure Mongoloid ethnicity from Xianbei in autosomal DNA.

Koreans, Tungusics, Mongols are autosomally closer to Xianbei

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9469475/#q9469475


Khitans, Jurchens, Mongols and Xianbei all mass raped Korean women.

Murong Xianbei sacked Gaogouli/Goguryeo's capital.

Khitan men mass raped Jurchen girls for centuries and raided Korea.

Jurchens raped Koreans in 1636

Toi Jurchens raped Japanese in 1019.

Han ethnicity is the only ethnic group in East Asia that has a common patrilineal ancestor (yellow emperor)

In Han culture your paternal lineage has to be Han to be Han.

Japanese commoners don't claim shared paternal ancestry with their monarch.

Koreans don't claim all of them descend from Dangun

Koreans and Japanese all have clans descended from foreign men who married Korean and Japanese women.

Hui Muslim clans in Korea like Deoksu Jang are ethnic Koreans, Korea doesn't have separate Hui ethnicity unlike China.

Northern Han genocided Jie people.

>>17901295
>>17901928
>>17901938
>>17901942
>>17901951
>>17901965
>>17901978
in World War II, Han Chinese men who had immigrated to Japan were still marrying and having sex with Japanese women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaharu_Oh

>Sadaharu Oh (Japanese: 王貞治, Ō Sadaharu; born May 20, 1940), also known as Wang Chen-chih (Chinese: 王貞治; pinyin: Wáng Zhēnzhì), is a retired Chinese baseball player and manager[1] in Japan. Oh holds the world lifetime home run record,[2] having hit 868 home runs during his professional career. He established many NPB batting records, including runs batted in (RBIs) (2,170), slugging percentage (.634), bases on balls (2,390), and on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS) (1.080). In 1977, Oh became the first recipient of the People's Honour Award. He was inducted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame in 1994.

>Oh was born in Sumida, Tokyo, the son of a Japanese mother and a Chinese father from Zhejiang.[3] Although born in Japan, Oh holds the citizenship of the Republic of China (ROC), as his father had left China when the ROC governed the Chinese mainland and chose to remain a Chinese citizen.


Why are you pretending Japan wasn't an open cum dump for Han Chinese sex tourists for decades?

Chinese men visiting Jaan regularly took Japanese teenage girls as temporary concubines and maids and then abandoned them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaoru_Otsuki#:~:text=Kaoru%20Otsuki%20(Japanese%3A%20%E5%A4%A7%E6%9C%88,of%20the%20Republic%20of%20China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haru_Asada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Manshu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Wei-kuo

Japan never have Nuremberg laws or Jim crow laws at any point in their history.

Chinese men living in Japan during WW2 itself fucked Japanese women.

Sadaharu Oh was born in Japan to a Chinese father and Japanese mother in the middle of WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaharu_Oh

>>17901295
>>17901980

Japan was funded by Jews like Jacob Schiff against Russia in 1905

Japanese Makuya cult are pro-Israel and Japanese raped and tortured Nazi Germans, Italians and Spanish in the Manila massacre at the Bayview hotel, German club and Spanish consulate, while Japan protected Jews and didn't rape them.

Japan was a sex tourist destination and exporter of girls worse than Thailand, in living memory.

Japan never had anti miscegenation laws (Nuremberg laws or Jim crow equivalent)

During World War II itself, Sadaharu Oh was born to a Han Chinese father and Japanese mother in Japan in 1940. His Japanese mother was having sex with a Chinese man in Japan while China and Japan were at war.

It was legal for ethnicities from enemy countries to fuck Japanese women inside Japan in the middle of the war

A Jew having sex with a German woman in 1940 would be executed.

Japanese Karayuki-san teenage girl prostitutes were also having sex with Chinese men during the first Sino-Japanese War

>>17901295
>>17901986
Why are you pretending Japan wasn't an open cum dump for Han Chinese sex tourists for decades?

Chinese men visiting Jaan regularly took Japanese teenage girls as temporary concubines and maids and then abandoned them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaoru_Otsuki#:~:text=Kaoru%20Otsuki%20(Japanese%3A%20%E5%A4%A7%E6%9C%88,of%20the%20Republic%20of%20China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haru_Asada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Manshu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Wei-kuo

Japan never have Nuremberg laws or Jim crow laws at any point in their history.

Chinese men living in Japan during WW2 itself fucked Japanese women.

Sadaharu Oh was born in Japan to a Chinese father and Japanese mother in the middle of WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaharu_Oh


Sadaharu Oh's father moved to Japan before the war started and then impregnated a Japanese woman in the middle of the war in 1940

Chen Kenichi's father was from Sichuan which was NEVER occupied by Japan in the war and then he moved to Japan and impregnated a Japanese woman.

>>17901295
>>17902046
Even in World War II, Han Chinese men who had immigrated to Japan were still marrying and having sex with Japanese women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaharu_Oh
>Sadaharu Oh (Japanese: 王貞治, Ō Sadaharu; born May 20, 1940), also known as Wang Chen-chih (Chinese: 王貞治; pinyin: Wáng Zhēnzhì), is a retired Chinese baseball player and manager[1] in Japan. Oh holds the world lifetime home run record,[2] having hit 868 home runs during his professional career. He established many NPB batting records, including runs batted in (RBIs) (2,170), slugging percentage (.634), bases on balls (2,390), and on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS) (1.080). In 1977, Oh became the first recipient of the People's Honour Award. He was inducted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame in 1994.

>Oh was born in Sumida, Tokyo, the son of a Japanese mother and a Chinese father from Zhejiang.[3] Although born in Japan, Oh holds the citizenship of the Republic of China (ROC), as his father had left China when the ROC governed the Chinese mainland and chose to remain a Chinese citizen.

Han Chinese men who immigrated after World War II also married Japanese women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Kenichi
>Chen Kenichi (陳建一, Chin Ken'ichi, simplified Chinese: 陈建一; traditional Chinese: 陳建一; pinyin: Chén Jiànyī Japanese name 陳建太郎. He was born on January 5th, 1956 in Tokyo, Japan), whose name is often romanized Chin Kenichi in Japanese sources, is a chef best known for his role as the Iron Chef Chinese on the television series Iron Chef 料理の鉄人. Nicknamed The Szechuan Sage, he wears a yellow outfit and rises into Kitchen Stadium holding a large Chinese chef's knife in his hand. He is the only Iron Chef to have held his position throughout the life of the show. He was born in Japan to a Japanese mother and a Chinese father of Japanese nationality, Chen Kenmin[1] and his formal name is Ken'ichi Azuma (東 建一, Azuma Ken'ichi).

>>17901295
The Japanese raped Spanish women in Manila's Bayview hotel and massacred Spanish people at the Spanish consulate during the Manila massacre in the Philippines in 1945.

>>17901295
>Powerful heavily built robust Jomonid males with facial hair and great strength in their limbs

Japanese are the shortest people in East Asia and shorter than all Chinese.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/16746138/#q16746167

>>17901295
>>17902152
China sent hundreds of thousands of troops to seize Xinjiang back from Soviet control in 1942, after Soviet occupied all of Xinjiang in 1937.

Japan still lost multiple battles in 1942-1943, Japanese prisoners were captured en masse at Changde in brutal hand to hand combat with chemical weapons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Changde

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Changsha_(1941%E2%80%931942)

In 1944, China and the Soviet army went to war against each other in Xinjiang in the Ili rebellion which would last from 1944-1946.

Chinese army directly fought against Soviet army in the Tarim Basin and Ili. Over 120,000 troops and fighter aircraft were in Xinjiang.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ili_Rebellion

Despite China fighting a two front war with technological inferiority weapons,

Japan still got smashed by China at the battles of Tengchong and Mount Song (battle of west Yunnan) in late 1944 with the total slaughter of all Japanese soldiers west of the Salween river.

This was during the Ili rebellion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mount_Song


https://footagefarm.com/reel-details/asia/generic/wwii---1944-china--siege-of-tienchung-aka-tengchong-marshall-arrival-shanghai--nanking-peace-delegation-arrives-peking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0hqPl4doMo

Japan LOST every battle in 1945 and failed to conquer west Hunan and retreated from the entire east Guangxi, Fuzhou and Wenzhou months before the atomic bombs

Chinese smashed the Japanese army in west Hunan and killed 30,000 of them, when Japan launched a spring offensive to capture Zhijiang airfield in 1945.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_West_Hunan

Japan lost the entire east Guangxi after the west Hunan battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Guangxi_campaign

Both of these were months before the atomic bombs and Soviet army invasion of Manchukuo which smashed the Kwantung army.

>>17901295
Japanese midget taken prisoner at Changde.

>>17902156
Hundreds of thousands of Kwantung army soldiers were worked to death in gulags and hundreds of thousands of Japanese female settlers and nurses were raped in barracks.

This is also while the Soviet army was fighting in Xinjiang.

Japan failed to implement Operation 5 ( conquest of Sichuan, Shaanxi and Gansu) while China was fighting the Ili rebellion.

Japan tried probing Changde and West Hubei in 1943 for Operation 5 but failed in both.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Japanese_invasion_of_Sichuan

While Japan lost battles of west Hunan and Second Guangxi campaign in China in 1945.

Japan was undefeated in west Indonesia (Java and Sumatra) and Vietnam

Japanese soldiers were committing child rape on Indonesian Muslim girls in Java and Vietnamese girls right up the the atomic bombings and did not militarily lose any battles or cities.

The US had complete technological superiority over Japan.

Japan had technological superiority against China (air, armour, naval, chemical weapons) against an enemy with no gas masks, no anti aircraft artillery, no tanks, no chemical weapons and many of whose soldiers were armed with muskets and swords.

Japanese were killed by indigenous musket men in the battle of West Hunan

>>17900076 (OP)
>all of this just to have 2 fronts against the Turks
Reminds me of Napoleon's plan to conquer the entire Middle East after invading Egypt so he could open up a front against the British in India.

>>17900763
>>17900876
>>17900881
The Ningbo massacre happened after the Portuguese consul stupidly thought the British gaining extra territorial privileges in the Opium wars meant Portugal could do the same outside of Macau.

Portuguese pirates set up a protection extortion racket and started attacking people, and the Portuguese consul refused to arrest them, claiming extraterrotorial privileges.

Then Cantonese pirates under Ahpak defeated them.

The Portuguese consular official tried to extend extra territorial rights and extortion all the way to Ningbo and it ended in the Portuguese pirates getting massacred by Cantonese pirates.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=XQg8s_AxfCAC&pg=PA218

Portuguese could not do the same gunboat diplomacy as Britain.

>>17900876

>The Cantonese do not look upon the Portuguese as Europeans. They have not the same fear of them. They can fight them man to man. Macao would have been taken by the Chinese long since, had they not dreaded the interference of the other Western powers

>>17900881
>>17902431
Portuguese and Irish in the US were also viewed as lower status than other white people.

Chinese immigrants (both Cantonese and non-Cantonese) married Irish women in the continental US and Australia and they also married Portuguese women in Hawaii.

Irish and Portuguese were in the same jobs as Chinese (like sugarcane in Hawaii).

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>>17902565
>makes me post it
Chinese are the ultimate rape babies. You can't use that as an insult.

t. Portuguese conquistador bvll

>>17901295
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>>1790256
The same guy said southern Europeans are descended from mass rape by invaders like Carthaginians, Alans, Moors in Al-Andalus.

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>>17902585

Townsend's claims were ripped to shreds in the links here


He made up fictional events like Malay pirates causing Chinese to flee the coast, and gave no citations for it. He couldn't even speak Chinese.

Townsend lies about several historical events- the sea ban and claiming that Chinese never violently fought Mongols.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/5611675/#q5612440

Townsend admitted in his own book he could not speak Chinese and lied about Chinese history. He lied on the following points.
Townsend claims in his book the Chinese ordered a total evacuation of the coast because they were too cowardly to fight a few Malay pirates raiding it.
The sea evacuation and coast ban was not done by Han Chinese in response to Malay pirates which Townsend claims but instead ordered by the Qing dynasty Manchu Kangxi Emperor to deprive Han Chinese Ming loyalist Koxinga of coastal trade and infiltration. Koxinga and his armies were Han Chinese, not Malays and they were raiding the Qing from islands off the coast.
There was an earlier maritime prohibition against trade by the Ming dynasty but not a coastal evacuation. The Ming Emperor destroyed merchant ships but never forced people to move away from the coast to avoid pirates. Ming generals like Qi Jiguang fought the Japanese pirates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haijin#Qing

China only had one raid by Visayan and not Malay pirates.
Han Chinese violently fought against the Mongols in the Jindandao rebellion and killed Mongols in battle which was within living memory of Townsend while he claims Chinese never fought Mongols openly due to cowardice but only took over by sneaky financial means and never by fighting. He wanted to imply cowardice again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindandao_incident

>>17902574
>>17902594

>>12643595
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12360716/#q12381880

https://archived.moe/lit/thread/19465237#p19467761

Townsend was a paid propagandist for Japan. He was arrested as a Japanese agent in World War II.

Debunked here for any third party.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/6453883/#q6454117


https://yuki.la/his/7365764#p7365806

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/6453883/#6454003

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7102781/#q7105500


The entire pasta was debunked.

Townsend's entire book is full of lies on history.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7365764/#q7365769
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7365764/#q7368422

It's very simple, Townsend provided no sources, primary or secondary for any of the history he made up, kek. Townsend wasn't a historian and he didn't cite a single primary or secondary source for any of his claims. That's all that is needed to debunk it.


Townsend also contradicts himself claiming Chinese assimilated the Mongols then later mentions the Mongols still exist in his same book.

The Chinese violently slaughtered Mongols just a few years before Townsend was born and he claimed Chines never used violence when taking over Mongols.


https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7624741/#q7625025
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7624741/#q7625100
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7624741/#q7625154

https://yuki.la/his/thread/9587031#p9599349

>>17902574
>>17902594
>>17902599

Anyone who wishes to read the book- read it- don't just take my word for it

After reading Townsend's book, look at the part where he talks about Malay pirates raiding Chine causing Chinese cowards to flee the entire coast.

Then go to any history book, primary source and secondary source, written by westerners or Chinese.

Do CTRL+F "Malay pirates" and "Chinese evacuating Malay pirate raids".

You can't find a single account of Malay pirates forcing Chinese to evacuate the coast.

Where's Townsend's sources and citations for the historical events he didn't witness? He doesn't have any because he lied.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9587031/#q9599318
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9587031/#q9599281

Townsend didn't only lie about history, he lied about contemporary religion claiming that religion didn't exist in China and Daoism only survived is a philosophy, that Buddhism and Islam exost in name only. Anyone who knows Chinese religion knows that these are blatant lies trying to push an agenda to a religious audience (1930s America). Daoist exists in China as the exact opposite of what he claimed it only survives as religion with supernatual beliefs, gods and rituals and has been dead as a philosophy for thousands of years. Buddhism and Islam are very much practiced.

>>17902594
>>17902599
Yeah but you can't refute the fact that modern Chinese are a mutt race. "Han Chinese" are the Brazilians of Asia and you were ruled by foreign "barbarians" for millennia.

>>17902574
>>17902605

the wokou also NEVER triggered the coastal evacuation. The Ming response to the Wokou raids was to repeatedly threaten Japan with invasion until the Ashikaga shogunate handed over Japanese pirates to Ming authorities to be boiled to death in cauldrons. The Ming also fought later against the Wokou in repeated battles under Qi Jiguang and never evacuated the coast. The Ming just implemented trade bans and restricted commerce to ports.

The coastal evacuation was done by the Qing against Han Chinese Ming loyalists in Taiwan to destroy their entire economic base.

Townsend explcitly tries to lies and claim coastal evacuation is Chinese cowardice against foreign pirates. He tries to fabricate history to support his claims.

Dutch captain Hans Putman explicitly said at the battle of Liaoluo bay that he was astonished that the Chinese charging his ships did not fear death or musket send cannon fire as they gutted the Dutch fleet and the Dutch fled. Chinese soldier halbediers also didn't flinch when they massacred Dutch Captain Thomas Pedel's musketeers in hand to hand combat while the Dutch dropped their guns and ran.

Townsend basically lies about every historical event he never witnessed, he claims Beijing's walls were built by conquerors when the Ming dynasty built Beijing's walls. He lied about Daoism and religion, Islam, Buddhism in China being philosophies when its the opposite. Any neutral observer would note that Chinese practitioners are not philosophers but religious fanatics with sincere belief in the divine like white lotus and other sects.

If Townsend was alive today in this atheistic western secular environment he would claim the exact opposite bullshit to make Chinese look bad by claiming they are religious.

>>12858665
Anyone who knows Chinese religion knows that these are blatant lies trying to push an agenda to a religious audience (1930s America).

>>17902609
I'm not reading your walls of cope. You will never be world hegemon and Japan will always tower above China in terms of human achievement.

Carthage, Moors in Al-Andalus, Alans, Suebi, Vandals and Visogoths were all foreign "barbarians"

House of Bragança/Aviz are of French origin.

>>17902607


Han Chinese comquered and raped Momgolia and Manchus centuries before the Mongol empire and Qing dynasty

>>17900733

Jurchen (Manchu) rebel Wang Gao was sliced to death (lingchi aka death by a thousand cuts) by Han Chinese during the Mimg dynasty.

His sons Atai 阿台 and Ahai 阿海were both killed.

>Wang Gao (王杲): a Jianzhou Jurchen awarded a position of command in Jianzhou. He was put to death by lingchi at Beijing in 1575 due to repeated raids into Ming border territories. He is said to be Nurhaci's maternal great-grandfather or maternal grandfather.

Jurchens (Manchus) like Yishiha were castrated as eunuch slaves by Han Chinese.

>Yishiha (Chinese: 亦失哈; Wade–Giles: Ishiha/I-shih-ha; also rendered as Išiqa and Isiha;[1] Jurchen: i ʃï xa[2]) (fl. 1409–1451), sinicized name Yi Xin (易信), was a Jurchen eunuch of the Ming dynasty of China. He served the Ming emperors who commissioned several expeditions down the Songhua and Amur Rivers during the period of Ming rule of Manchuria,[1][3] and is credited with the construction of the only two Ming dynasty Buddhist temples ever built on the territory of present-day Russia.[4]

>It is believed that Yishiha was a Haixi Jurchen by origin,[1][5] and was captured by the Ming forces in the late 14th century.[1] He worked under two important eunuchs, Wang Zhen and Cao Jixiang. It is speculated by modern historians that he rose to prominence by participating in imperial court politics and serving the Yongle Emperor's concubines of Manchu (Jurchen) origin.[6][7]

>>17902613
Japanese gang raped Spanish women and Italian women at the Bayview hotel in Manila and massacred the entire Spanish consulate while they spared the Jews.

>>17902607
Han Chinese mass raped and enslaved steppe nomads like Jie before they revolted against their Han rulers.

You are a Spic amd descended from thousands of years of rape by North Africans and Semites since Carthage.

>>17902629
Literally whiter than you, bug boy.

Carthage, Moors in Al-Andalus, Alans, Suebi, Vandals and Visogoths were all foreign "barbarians"

House of Bragança/Aviz are of French origin.

>>17902607


Han Chinese conquered and raped Momgolia and Manchus centuries before the Mongol empire and Qing dynasty

>>17897237
>>17900922

Jurchen (Manchu) rebel Wang Gao was sliced to death (lingchi aka death by a thousand cuts) by Han Chinese during the Mimg dynasty.

His sons Atai 阿台 and Ahai 阿海were both killed.

>Wang Gao (王杲): a Jianzhou Jurchen awarded a position of command in Jianzhou. He was put to death by lingchi at Beijing in 1575 due to repeated raids into Ming border territories. He is said to be Nurhaci's maternal great-grandfather or maternal grandfather.

Jurchens (Manchus) like Yishiha were castrated as eunuch slaves by Han Chinese.

>Yishiha (Chinese: 亦失哈; Wade–Giles: Ishiha/I-shih-ha; also rendered as Išiqa and Isiha;[1] Jurchen: i ʃï xa[2]) (fl. 1409–1451), sinicized name Yi Xin (易信), was a Jurchen eunuch of the Ming dynasty of China. He served the Ming emperors who commissioned several expeditions down the Songhua and Amur Rivers during the period of Ming rule of Manchuria,[1][3] and is credited with the construction of the only two Ming dynasty Buddhist temples ever built on the territory of present-day Russia.[4]

>It is believed that Yishiha was a Haixi Jurchen by origin,[1][5] and was captured by the Ming forces in the late 14th century.[1] He worked under two important eunuchs, Wang Zhen and Cao Jixiang. It is speculated by modern historians that he rose to prominence by participating in imperial court politics and serving the Yongle Emperor's concubines of Manchu (Jurchen) origin.[6][7]

>>17902650
That doesn't disprove rape retard

A Carthaginian or Moor who continously married Iberian women will have descendants with 99% Iberian autosomal DNA. That's an autosomal chart.

>>17902609
Townsend also talked about Aryan architecture like in India, why didn't those superhuman aryans resist multiple Turco Mongol invasions in India like the Delhi Sultanates and Mughals?

He literally praises pajeets (who are overruning Iberia now) and says their architecture was clearly built by Aryans.

>>17902506
>Chinese immigrants (both Cantonese and non-Cantonese) married Irish women in the continental US and Australia and they also married Portuguese women in Hawaii.

This single statement about Portuguese in Hawaii triggered mass incel seethe for some reason.

>>17902621
>muh dick
>proud of savagery
Typical buggy.

>>17902609

Coastal evacuation was Qing forcing the entire population of the coast to destroy their houses and move inland. The Ming dynasty never did that. No dynasty did that in response to foreign pirates. If the Ming had done that there would be no wokou raids.

The Ming government never issued orders to evacuate the coast. The Ming fought against the wokou raiders and deployed military units from all over the inland to the coast to fight.

The Qing ordered the entire coast cleared by force by the army and dragged people inland to cut off the entire economic base for Ming loyalists under Koxinga's family.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Clearance

The Ming Haijin was banning trade, unlike the Qing great clearance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haijin


The fact that he also lied about everything history related and things he never witnessed also compromises what he claimed to witness personally.

If he had been smart enough to shut about history and only write about events he claimed to observe himself on 1930s China he could have retained credibility since no one could definitely call him a liar. But he didn't and ventured far out of his field and reach in his hit job.

His employer, Japan at the time suffered from tons of negative societal ills. Japan had mentally ill incels going on yobai night rapes and shooting sprees like Mutsuo Toi in the Tsuyama massage. Yobai night rape was an accepted courting ritual in Japan between Japaneseen and women. Japan mass exported Japanese prostitutes called karayuki-san to China and other foreign countries to send their remittances back hometown run Japan's economy. The Japanese prostitutes especially solicited Chinese men as clients.

>>17902728
Townsend was openly pro-Japanese in his book dumbass and Japanese peasants behaved like even worse subhuman than any modern Chinese.

Japanese peasants literally spat and shat everywhere before the Japanese govenembr was humilitaed by their behavior and had to force them to stop.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12590978/#q12596054

Japan was also world renowned for mass prostitution in the Meiji era, far worse than modern Thailand today

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12590978/#q12596012

Ever heard of Issei Sagawa? Enjo kosai? Chikan? Sexually harassing girls and hentsi porn is widespread in Japanese culture.

Everything you bitch about China is multiple in Japan by 1000%


Townsend lied about contemporary stuff.

He claimed Daoism was,'t a religion in China and that religions died in China and turned iinto philosophies.

It's literally the opposite.

Religious Daoism (Daojiao) virtually wiped out and displaced Daoism as philosophy (Daojia). Religious Daoists were all over China and Buddhism was also heavily practiced as a religion.

He didn't speak or read Chinese and was lying if he ever said he did.


Japan was a mass prostitution exporter and supplied Japanese Karayuki San prostiturws to China and European colonies while China was opium ridden.

Why does Japan get a pass for whoring its girls to the entire world?

Townsend also talked about Aryan architecture like in India, why didn't those superhuman aryans resist multiple Turco Mongol invasions in India like the Delhi Sultanates and Mughals?

>>17902661


https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9469475/#9469715

Y chromosome confirms it's the same as the original Han 3,000 years ago.

Han Chinese have the same paternal Y chromosome haplogroups as 3,000 years ago and even further back since the Neolithic. Unless barbarian women came and mass raped Han men and added maternal admixture, Han are the same as ancient China.

Y Chromosomes of 40% Chinese Descend from Three Neolithic Super-Grandfathers

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0105691

Ancient DNA Reveals That the Genetic Structure of the Northern Han Chinese Was Shaped Prior to 3,000 Years Ago

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0125676 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235620438_Ancient_DNA_of_Emperor_CAO_Cao%27s_granduncle_matches_those_of_his_present_descendants_a_commentary_on_present_Y_chromosomes_reveal_the_ancestry_of_Emperor_CAO_Cao_of_1800_years_ago

The Manchu-Jurchen paternal C2 subclade haplogroup is competely absent from Han Chinese men. It's only found in Manchus, Mongols and other non-Han ethnic minorities.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418768/ https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chuan-Chao_Wang/publication/269876995_Y_Chromosome_of_Aisin_Gioro_the_Imperial_House_of_Qing_Dynasty/links/551cf6240cf2909047bcb445/Y-Chromosome-of-Aisin-Gioro-the-Imperial-House-of-Qing-Dynasty.pdf

>We reasoned that the events leading to the spread of this lineage might have been recorded in the historical record, as well as in the genetic record. The spread must have occurred after the cluster’s TMRCA (∼500 years ago, corresponding to about a.d. 1500) and, most likely, before the Xibe migration in 1764. Notable features are the occurrence of the lineage in seven different populations but its apparent absence from the most populous Chinese ethnic group, the Han.

>>17902629
Han Chinese conquered and raped the Xiongnu nomads in Mongolia during the Qin dynasty and Han dynasty and conquered and raped the Gokturk Khaganate and Khitan Mongolic nomads in Mongolia during the Tang dynasty, centuries before the Mongol empire.

Han Chinese in the Ming dynasty conquered and raped Jurchens/Manchus and ruled them for 200 years taking Jurchen eunuchs like Yishiha and concubines.

Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia in the Qin dynasty, Han dynasty and Tang dynasty, long before the Mongol empire ever emerged and before Genghis was born.

Han Chinese conquered and raped nomadic empires, Vietnam and Korea multiple times. Korea was conquered by the Han and ruled as the four commanderies and Vietnam was ruled for a millennia and the Qin dynasty, Han dynasty and Tang dynasty all raped the nomads in Mongolia.

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/pHt-lhMjXJvRH6pAAr2uOw/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/Vu-PXrGG73bCbuyM8Ibb6Q/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/naOxYW9AkfHZHjVshZlZ2A/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/qdoW12q9DD_dNvh95UaE_g/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/mx00dcPWJm9teliGMnkfrw/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/aJYKiIksnWKkAcVNkgbh3w/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/nfgBvHWuNQv_NoHJxNB76A/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/N4IhdgqiHOUe9kyuo0KVLg/

the first nomadic monuments in Mongolia are steles of butthurt about how China conquered and enslaved them

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/K-WuVFsrHmLCgl6kJ46sWw/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/D_8eCaQRwrjUyhP7TqOiew/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/nz89bbmUZWYmn67R2zm0GA/

https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/WsCQx3zR9L_onMBsdvqY1g/
https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/F57HIHuYmGA_iuWylbTvJg/

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14384109/#q14385989

The Tang dynasty butchered nomadic Mongolic Khitan men and distributed their women and chidren as slaves to their officers and vassals.

>>17902737
Han Chinese repeatedly conquered and raped Mongolia and Jurchens centuries before the Mongol empire and Qing.

Han Chinese conquered and raped Mongolia centuries before the Mongol empire was founded and Genghis Khan was born. If ruling over a place means everyone in it was raped, then all Mongols are raped cross bred descendants of Han Chinese raping their ancestors.

If Mongols ruling an area makes everyone mixed with Mongols (the Mongols conquered and raped and ruled for centuries all the way to Anatolia and Aleppo and conquered and raped Romania and Korea as well), then all off Asia from Korea to Romania to Iraq and the Syrian cities of Damascus and Aleppo are Mongol hybrids. As well as Austrians and Hungarians.
>>>/k/50520707


>>>/k/50520718
>China wasn't subjugated by foreigners. The non-Han dynasties were rebel subjects of preceding Han Chinese dynasties, not foreign invaders.

>The region of Mongolia was raped and conquered by Tang dynasty China centuries before the Mongol empire existed.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10403196

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/45518168

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/48235048

>>>/k/48235048

>Steppe nomads like the southern Xiongnu, Jie, Di, Qiang, An lushan's rebels and the non-nomadic sedentary farmer Jianzhou Jurchens were all conquered, subjugated and deported as slaves by Han Chinese BEFORE they revolted against they Han masters to establish their own dynasties. China was never conquered by an external political entity.


Since conquest and rule = mass breeding and rape, all Mongols and Vietnamese are crossbred with Han Chinese genes since China ruled Vietnam for 1,000 years and ruled Mongolia for centuries under the Tang dynasty before the Mongol empire.

At this point it would be easier to do a landing on Basra

>>17902569
An Lushan lost the war, he was hacked to death, all his sons were killed and his people were genocided and massacred by Gao Juren.

>>17902569
>>17902576

Haku Zynkyoku, the same man who insulted all Southern European people and said they were mixed and bred out by barbarian invaders.

This is what Japan thinks of whites. /pol/ endorsed Japanese man Haku Zynkyoku san (Haku Jinkyoku) 伯壬旭, Kojima Rokan 小島露観. insulted white Europeans claiming that Ancient Greeks and Romans no longer exist. He's saying modern Greeks and Italians aren't the same as the ancient ones because of rape by foreign invaders.

https://archive.org/details/JapaneseSamuraiTeachesHumanityAboutTheOriginsOfTheJewishRace

>>17901771
China has been historically irrelevant prior to 1990s. The only thing China used to be before Burgers sent there their factories in the 90s was basically big Vietnam.

>>17902755
Japanese are a bunch of chinese colonists who exterminated local Jomon. They are not even a mix given the lack of Jomon blood.

>>17902569

"Even the Arabs were involved"

Meanwhile in Al-Andalus as said by this Iraqi:

http://archive.is/pVEJl#selection-197.0-202.0

>spain was an off-spring arab country for like 600 years, hilarious kek


https://archived.moe/his/thread/4887026/#4889747

https://archive.is/6DANr#selection-2716.0-2716.3

https://archived.moe/his/thread/4887026/#q4890299

>The portugese are arab anyway it would be like crying about one arab tribe attacking the other.

During the An Lushan rebellion, Tiam Shengong massacred Arabs in Yangzhou in 760 and Huang Chao massacred Arabs again in Guangzhou in 878-879.

If you want to look somewhere where Arabs were raping instead of getting massacred, I have bad news for you...

>>17902958
Tian Shengong

>>17902569
>>17897237
B-b-but /pol/tards claimed Manchus invented death by 1,000 cuts.

How could Manchus invented something that was used on them before the Qing dynasty existed? >>17902653

Jurchen (Manchu) rebel Wang Gao was sliced to death (lingchi aka death by a thousand cuts) by Han Chinese during the Mimg dynasty.

His sons Atai 阿台 and Ahai 阿海were both killed.

>Wang Gao (王杲): a Jianzhou Jurchen awarded a position of command in Jianzhou. He was put to death by lingchi at Beijing in 1575 due to repeated raids into Ming border territories. He is said to be Nurhaci's maternal great-grandfather or maternal grandfather.

Jurchens (Manchus) like Yishiha were castrated as eunuch slaves by Han Chinese.

>Yishiha (Chinese: 亦失哈; Wade–Giles: Ishiha/I-shih-ha; also rendered as Išiqa and Isiha;[1] Jurchen: i ʃï xa[2]) (fl. 1409–1451), sinicized name Yi Xin (易信), was a Jurchen eunuch of the Ming dynasty of China. He served the Ming emperors who commissioned several expeditions down the Songhua and Amur Rivers during the period of Ming rule of Manchuria,[1][3] and is credited with the construction of the only two Ming dynasty Buddhist temples ever built on the territory of present-day Russia.[4]

>It is believed that Yishiha was a Haixi Jurchen by origin,[1][5] and was captured by the Ming forces in the late 14th century.[1] He worked under two important eunuchs, Wang Zhen and Cao Jixiang. It is speculated by modern historians that he rose to prominence by participating in imperial court politics and serving the Yongle Emperor's concubines of Manchu (Jurchen) origin.[6][7]

>>17902569
>>17902962
Khitan Mongolic men fucked every Jurchen girl (right of first night) for 200 years during the Liao dynasty.

During the Qing dynasty, Manchus used lingchi (death by 1,000 cuts) to slice Tibetans and Uyghur Muslims death.

>On 1 November 1728, after the Qing reconquest of Lhasa in Tibet, several Tibetan rebels were sliced to death by Qing Manchu officers and officials in front of the Potala Palace. Qing Manchu President of the Board of Civil Office, Jalangga, Mongol sub-chancellor Sen-ge and brigadier-general Manchu Mala ordered Tibetan rebels Lum-pa-nas and Na-p'od-pa to be sliced.[50][51] Tibetan rNam-rgyal-grva-ts'an college administrator (gner-adsin) and sKyor'lun Lama were tied together with Lum-pa-nas and Na-p'od-pa on four scaffolds (k'rims-sin) to be sliced. The Manchus used musket matchlocks to fire three salvoes and then the Manchus strangled the two lamas while slicing Lum-pa-nas and Na-p'od-pa to death. The Tibetan population was depressed by the scene and the writer of MBTJ continued to feel sad as he described it 5 years later. The public execution spectacle worked on the Tibetans since they were "cowed into submission" by the Qing. Even the Tibetan collaborator with the Qing, Polhané Sönam Topgyé (P'o-lha-nas), felt sad at his fellow Tibetans being executed in this manner and prayed for them. All of this was included in a report sent to the Qing Yongzheng Emperor.[52]

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>>17902964
>On 23 January 1751 (25/XII), Tibetan rebels who participated in the Lhasa riot of 1750 against the Qing were sliced to death by Qing Manchu general Bandi, similar to what happened on 1 November 1728. 6 Tibetan rebel leaders plus Tibetan rebel leader Blo-bzan-bkra-sis were sliced to death.[53] Manchu General Bandi sent a report to the Qing Qianlong emperor on 26 January 1751 on how he carried out the slicing of the Tibetan rebels: dBan-rgyas (Wang-chieh), Padma-sku-rje-c'os-a['el (Pa-t'e-ma-ku-erh-chi-ch'un-p'i-lo) and Tarqan Yasor (Ta-erh-han Ya-hsün) were sliced to death for injuring the Manchu ambans with arrows, bows and fowling pieces during the Lhasa riot when they assaulted the building the Manchu ambans (Labdon and Fucin) were in; Sacan Hasiha (Ch'e-ch'en-ha-shih-ha) for murder of multiple individuals; Ch'ui-mu-cha-t'e and Rab-brtan (A-la-pu-tan) for looting money and setting fire during the attack on the Ambans; Blo-bzan-bkra-sis, the mgron-gner for being the overall leader of the rebels who led the attack which looted money and killed the Manchu ambans.[54]

>Jahangir Khoja (張格爾): a Uyghur Muslim Sayyid and Naqshbandi Sufi rebel of the Afaqi suborder, Jahangir Khoja was sliced to death in 1828 by the Manchus for leading a rebellion against the Qing.

Tang dynasty China destroyed the entire Uyghur Khaganate in Mongolia in 840-847 and massacred Uyghur troops at the battle of Shahu mountain in 843.

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>>17902962
>conquered, raped and ruled by huns, conquered, raped and conquered by turks, raped and ruledby mongols, ruled by manchus, conquered, raped and ruled by japanese

Truly impressive. Remind me about that time Manchus made you cut hair in such a way they would remind you they were at charge and you wearing a chastity cage made haircut

>>17902970
>huns,

China conquered and raped the Xiongnu (Huns) the entire Xiongnu state in Momgolia was destroyed by China, forcing the Huns to flee west to Europe where they forced the Alans and Visigoths to flee and to rape Iberia.

Dou Xian left the Yanran inscriptions in Mongolia after crushing the Xiongnu.

That was before any Xiongnu dynasty existed.

>turks

China comquered the Eastern Turkic Khaganate in Mongolia in 630 (Protectorate general to Pacify the North) and Western Turkic Khaganate in Central Asia (Protectorate general to pacify the West)

The first Turkic language inscription, the Orkhon stele in Mongolia says the Turks and their daughters were enslaved by China

The Turks fled west to Europe to invade, like the Pechenegs, Cumans, Seljuqs, Ottomans.

> ruledby mongols

China ruled the entire Mongolia during the Tang dynasty centuries before the Mongol empire existed.

>manchus

Ming China ruled the Manchus and castrated and sliced Manchus during its over 200 years rule (Nurgan regional military commission and Jianzhou Jurchen guard >>17902962

>by japanese

Japan mass exported karayuki san prostitutes to China and Chinese men did sex tourism in Meiji Japan

Sun Yatsen had two teenage Japanese girl concubines, Haru Asada and Kaoru Otsuki.

Japanese never occupied all of China.

Japanese raped and killed Spanish in the Manila massacre.

International brigades and Moroccan Riffian Berbers were raping Spanish women during the 1930s.

>>17902970
Punic (Phoenician) Carthiginians and Amazigh Berber soldiers, Iranic Alans, Visigoths, Suebi, Vandals, Moors Umayyads and Berbers, Vikings, Almohads, Almoravids, Moroccan Riffian Amazighs Berbers and International Brigades all mass raped your people.

Umayyad caliphs also raped boys in addition to girls.

>>17903003
Even today Punic names like Amilcar (Hamilcar Barca) Arabic names like Almeida, Zoraida, Azahara, Gothic names like Rodriguez, Alfonso are all used there.

>>17902998
>>17903003
Marco Polo recorded cuckold villages in China during Kublai khan times that allowed foreigners to come and BWC fuck their women.

China is the quintessential raped, ducked and mutted shithole of Asia.

>>17902679
>Chinese immigrants (both Cantonese and non-Cantonese) married Irish women in the continental US and Australia and they also married Portuguese women in Hawaii.

Again, why did this provoke so much incel rage?

>>17903020
>Marco Polo recorded cuckold villages in China during Kublai khan times that allowed foreigners to come and BWC fuck their women.

That was Uyghur villages in Kumul, Xinjiang, retard.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9588542/#q9588574

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9588542/#q9588542

>>17903003
None of these groups left any meaningful genetic impact outside the Suevi somewhat in Galicia. Try again
>Vikings
This one is lulz. The vikings invaded Iberia like 2 times and they were defeated twice

>>17903027
Uyghurs were nomads.
These were Han gook colonists who were submitted into chastity wearing cuckoldry by steppe tribes.

>>17902599
Why is the chinkcel posting this jeet from kamui kagura

>>17903035
The Uyghur idiqut kingdom of Qocho were settled sedentary people.

After Tang dynasty China raped and destroyed the Uyghur Khaganate in the 840s (battle of Shahu), Uyghr refugees fled to the Turpan basin in Xinjiang and became sedentary farmers, founding the Idiqut Kingdom of Qocho in Kumul and Turfan.

Uyghurs are all sedentary oasis farmers for the past 1200 years, they live in cities and villages.

It's Kyrgyz who are nomads.

The cuck villages were all Uyghur. The Chinese Hong Hao recorded Ganzhou Uyghurs doing the same thing offering women to strangers in the Western Xia state.

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>>17901920
>>17903003
>Iranic
no such word exists. That's Iranian.

Turkish/Turkic classification makes sense, because the ethnic Turkish and the ethnic Turkic are the different stuffs.
The ethnic Iranians and the ethnic ""Iranics"" are the same thing on the other hand.
>B... but, Iranians in Islamic republic of Iran are only a part of the Iranics
They have never made up an ethnicity "Iranian" to distinguish Iranians inside and outside of historical Persia.
Sogdians, Khwarazmians, and Scythians are all Iranians.

>>17903045
Te elites were Uycghurs, the cuckold commoners were gooks, the same gooks Arabs btfo centuries before in Talas river.

>>17903047
We don't have their haplogroups either

>>17901295
10/10 bait

>>17903076
>Te elites were Uycghurs, the cuckold commoners were gooks,

Turpan and Kumul was first inhabited by Indo-European Tocharians (Jushi or Gushi) who got raped by Han people when Han dynadty annexed the place, and then Uyghurs moved there en masse in the 9th century and assimilated everyone.

There were no Han people in 13th century Kumul, it was all Uyghur Turks who assimilated everyone there in the 9th century.

Descendants of all the people who inhabited medieval Turfan in the Uyghur ethnicity.

>the same gooks Arabs btfo centuries before in Talas river.

There were no Han civilians in Central Asia. Tang dynasty China ruled over Turks, Tocharians, Sakas and Sogdians in Central Asia.

Han people didn't live in Talas.

Han soldiers took local non-Han women as temporary wives.

Han soldiers and Goguryeo soldiers like Gao Xianzhi were stationed in Central Asia and Gao Xianzhi was the one at Talas.

Arabs got massacred at Yangzhou in 760 by Tian Shengong and at Guangzhou in 878-9 by Huang Chao.

The only people getting btfo by Arabs were in Al-Andalus.

Also Tang dynasty China defeated Arabs at Aqsu (Aksu) in 717 and Fergana (Ferghana) in 715.

>>17903080
You do have E1b1 subclades from North Africa, some of them were found in Latin America too.

Also if a Berber rapes an Iberian who gives birth to a daughter and then the daughter marries another Iberian, the Haplogroup won't show up and eventually the Berber autosomal DNA will be 1%.

>>17901319
>stupid plan
>because spain and china had good diplomatic relations
>not because spain lacked the capacity to effectively wage war against china
>making war on china to make war on turks was stupid
>because the silk road is fading
>not because there's zero connection between this massive undertaking and spain's medium-sized rival
What the hell kind of schizo logic is this?

>>17904264
King Philip II was an Austrian unlike his Spic subjects like the retarded Dasmariñas family who got the entire Spanish force in Cambodia massacred thought they could invade China with 25 men before their heads got cut off.

Philip's interests weren't aligned with Spic wet dream fantasies.

>>17904319
Also after the Dutch defeated Spain and won independence, the Dutch tried the exact same mistakes as Spain (invading Cambodia in 1643-1644, going to watch with Ming China)

Dutch East India Company lost in Cambodia just like Spain did in 1593-1597 and 1599

And the Dutch lost all those wars with Ming China in 1622-1624 in Penghu Pescadores and 1633 at the battle of Liaoluo bay and 1661-1662 in Taiwan (Fort Provintia and Zeelandia)

The same Dutch btfo and defeated the Spanish in Taiwan in 1642 at the battle of San Salvador in Keelung and drove the Spaniards out of Taiwan.

>>17900648
>Uruguay is decent
Highest suicide rates in Latin America btw. The government hands out antidepressants like candy and it ain't helping.

>>17900076 (OP)
>>17900087
>>17900081
>>17900091
>>17904319
>>17904330
>>17904429
Panchitada histórica

>>17904429
Yeah it's high but not higher than some eastern european states. Lithuanian kill themselves a lot yet Lithuania is undoubtedly first world. Also it would be interesting to know the demography of those who kill themselves

>>17904319
>Philip II was an Austrian
He was less than 1/16 Austrian and did not speak German, he in fact hated the language and the people who spoke it.
You're another retarded chimp with no clue about Imperial Spain

>>17903478
Then we must assume that they mysteriously all gave birth to daughters given the ridiculously low percentage of EM81 in Spain

>>17904464
>it would be interesting to know the demography of those who kill themselves
Most of the people that do it are from rural areas, which keep getting empty. Whitey exterminated the Charruas to take their land and now they are doing it to themselves.

>>17904330
The Spanish forces in Taiwan amounted to 60 men and a few filipinos auxiliaries.
You'd have to be insane to extrapolate from that.
That's what you chinks do all the time. You brag about defeating small band of adventurers through massive numbers and act like it's somehow something to boast about
And I know in this case it's about the dutch but it's even funnier that you apply that to others because you literally can't envision the world in any way else than through zerg rushing and spamming numbers. The idea of defeating an opponent that actually outnumber you and having less casualties than him is entirely alien to you. Filthy bugs.

>>17904486
Well that's sad.
I guess they're mostly Spanish too

>>17904507
Not really, Uruguayans are quite mutted even if whiter than their surrounding

>>17904504
You're the same spics boasting about conquering stone age Aztecs and Incans with 300 Spics (with steel and guns) and ignoring 500,000 Tlaxclalans and other natives on the Spanish sides.

Luis Pérez Dasmariñas said he could conquer China with 25 men.

Then he and all his men were beheaded in an instant by Chinese civilians arked with knives and spears and with no military training.

There were 369 Dutch and the Spanish in Taiwan were holed up in a fort. Besieging forces always outnumber defenders during sieges unless they want to die of attrition retard.

>>17904576
>and ignoring 500,000 Tlaxclalans
I don't, they were essential to the conquest. I've always said that Cortes was more outstanding for his diplomatic skill and charisma than his military proper
>Luis Pérez Dasmariñas said he could conquer China with 25 men.
You realize that most people in Spain have never heard of this man, even the ones invested in history simply because he is an extremely irrelevant figure who only makes chinkcels by triggering their insecurity
>Then he and all his men were beheaded in an instant by Chinese civilians arked with knives and spears and with no military training
Good now let's talk about all the time tens of thousands of chinks were massacred in the Philippines
>Besieging forces always outnumber defenders during sieges unless they want to die of attrition retard.
Ok and? That the Dutch won this battle is nothing exceptional, you make it sound like as if defeating 60 Spanish soldiers holed up in a fort with six times their numbers something absolutely outstanding

>>17904728
>because he is an extremely irrelevant figure

Anything that embarrasses spics is "irrelevant".

Almanzor is "irrelevant" to Spics because he catapulted Spic heads into cities.

Algiers in 1541 is also "irrelevant" to Spics (look at Cortes and the casualty ratios in the battle)

>Good now let's talk about all the time

Spain lost the entire Moluccas permanently, lost Zamboanga for decades.

Chinese helped Moro Muslims raid Luzon and Visayas for three hundred years.

>>17904748
You never had a world spanning empire on which the sun never sets (Iberians did). You never projected power beyond your borders. Your country is an irrelevant sweatshop to provide amerifats with trinkets to play with. You are about to enter catastrophic population collapse from which China will never recover. The world hates you and you have no allies. China will be eclipsed by India.

>>17905015
>You never had a world spanning empire on which the sun never sets (Iberians did).

Spics falsely claimed to control stone age Native American tribes from Oregon to Patagonia which they never subjugated. Spics never exercised control over half the stone age cavemen in 'Spanish America' including Mapuche in South America and every single Californian, Oregonian and Lousiana tribe.

>You are about to enter catastrophic population collapse from which China will never recover.

Look at your own fertility rate spic. You're getting overrun by Bangladeshis and Nafris.

>China will be eclipsed by India.

India has below replacement fertility.

>>17905034
Chinks lie. That's why nobody trusts you. Stop lying and accept the truth. That's step #1 in people actually liking you. Your saving face culture is detrimental.

>>17905047
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/spanish-birth-rate-hits-lowest-level-since-records-began-1941-2024-02-21/

https://aaari.info/24-04-19huq/

>>17905015
China ruled over East Asia for 2000 years. China conquered and lorded over millions of steppe barbarians. Han raped and conquered the Xiongnu, Tang conquered and raped most of Central Asia, Ming raped and conquered hundreds of thousands of Mongols and Jurchens. The entirety of East Asia is molded in China's image.
When the Kingdom of Tungning threatened to invade the Spanish Phillipines, the spics immediately rolled over and paid tribute. The Dutch, the English, as well as the Spanish governor in the Philippines all believed that the Spanish would be lose to Tungning. Pathetic spics cannot even defeat a Ming rump state. They would have been curbstomped by the Ming Dynasty if they had genuinely tried to invade Ming.
Today, the Han people have almost the same genetics as their Neolithic ancestors. Han is objectively one of the purest races in the world.
Spanish subhumans are mutt mixture of Celt-Iberians, Romans, Germans, and Moors. Spain was raped and ruled by Moors for 800 years. You will never get the Moor rape genes out of your blood. You will always be part nigger.

>>17900076 (OP)
>DIOS MIO SANTA MARIA WE CAN CONQUER CHINA O ALGO
insane brown person hubris

>>17904748
Everyone know who Almanzor is
Almanzor was also Spanish himself, just muslim, his birthplace in Spain evrn has a statue of him
>>17905060
China is a third wotld country full of absolute misery

>>17905074
Say the latinx rapechild larping as a full native americzn

>>17905060
Rather be part nigger than chink bug.

>>17901766
yeah, but 100 chinks = 1 human. china won.

>>17905720
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/711Tarik1.asp

Medieval Sourcebook:
Al Maggari: Tarik's Address to His Soldiers, 711 CE, from The Breath of Perfumes
Tarik was the Muslim leader who lead the conquest of Spain.

Tarik's Address to His Soldiers, 711 CE

When Tarik had been informed of the approach of the enemy, he rose in the midst of his companions and, after having glorified God in the highest, he spoke to his soldiers thus:

"Oh my warriors, whither would you flee? Behind you is the sea, before you, the enemy. You have left now only the hope of your courage and your constancy. Remember that in this country you are more unfortunate than the orphan seated at the table of the avaricious master. Your enemy is before you, protected by an innumerable army; he has men in abundance, but vou, as your only aid, have your own swords, and, as your only chance for life, such chance as you can snatch from the hands of your enemy. If the absolute want to which you are reduced is prolonged ever so little, if you delay to seize immediate success, your good fortune will vanish, and your enemies, whom your very presence has filled with fear, will take courage. Put far from you the disgrace from which you flee in dreams, and attack this monarch who has left his strongly fortified city to meet you. Here is a splendid opportunity to defeat him, if you will consent to expose yourselves freelv to death. Do not believe that I desire to incite you to face dangers which I shall refuse to share with you. In the attack I myself will be in the fore, where the chance of life is always least.

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>>17907111
"Remember that if you suffer a few moments in patience, you will afterward enjoy supreme delight. Do not imagine that your fate can be separated from mine, and rest assured that if you fall, I shall perish with you, or avenge you. You have heard that in this country there are a large number of ravishingly beautiful Greek maidens, their graceful forms are draped in sumptuous gowns on which gleam pearls, coral, and purest gold, and they live in the palaces of royal kings. The Commander of True Believers, Alwalid, son of Abdalmelik, has chosen you for this attack from among all his Arab warriors; and he promises that you shall become his comrades and shall hold the rank of kings in this country. Such is his confidence in your intrepidity. The one fruit which he desires to obtain from your bravery is that the word of God shall be exalted in this country, and that the true religion shall be established here. The spoils will belong to yourselves.

"Remember that I place myself in the front of this glorious charge which I exhort you to make. At the moment when the two armies meet hand to hand, you will see me, never doubt it, seeking out this Roderick, tyrant of his people, challenging him to combat, if God is willing. If I perish after this, I will have had at least the satisfaction of delivering you, and you will easily find among you an experienced hero, to whom you can confidently give the task of directing you. But should I fall before I reach to Roderick, redouble your ardor, force yourselves to the attack and achieve the conquest of this country, in depriving him of life. With him dead, his soldiers will no longer defy you."

Source.

From: Charles F. Horne, ed., The Sacred Books and Early Literature of the East, (New York: Parke, Austin, & Lipscomb, 1917), Vol. VI: Medieval Arabia, pp. 241-242