Thread 17900314

Now that the time of the West as a civilization is almost over and its end is on the horizon, what will be the fate of Christianity? Will it fall with it, or outgrow it? Within 50 years the majority of Christians will be in Africa, moving from the West to the East. So will Christianity move on and start another chapter of its history, leaving Western civilization as just one of its many homes, such as it was once Rome, the Spanish Empire, Britain, and America? Or it's fate sealed with that of the West?

>>17900314 (OP)

Christianity is RESPONSIBLE for Western civilization. So yes.

>>17900319
>Christianity is RESPONSIBLE for Western civilization.
We'll see, if Christianity moves to Africa and this becomes a prosperous civilization, then it was indeed true that the West owed its greatness to Christianity and not the other way around.

>>17900314 (OP)
If that happens it'll just be a voodoo religion for Africans and Latin Americans no different from the paganism of their ancestors

>is almost over and its end is on the horizon
>bro this time for real le west will fall trust me

>>17900319
Western civilization happened despite of christianity not because of lmao

All it did was turn you into judeophilic judeocentric retards

>>17900342
>If that happens it'll just be a voodoo religion
That's what European paganism was, and Christianity destroyed it.

>>17900342
What makes you think that Christianity won't erradicate African paganism like it did with European and Amerindian paganism?

>>17900378
Christianity isn't a force separate from the humans who believe in it. Even if you are a Christian, this would only be true outside of humanity and the world.
>>17900375
Mostly yeah outside of Neoplatonism

"Western Civilization" and "Eastern Civilization" are both made up concepts that have no actual rigid definitions and thus are convenient tools for apocalyptic grifters because it allows them to constantly shift the goalpost with regards to their standard for western civilization such that its demise will always be just 2 weeks away and thus you must always elect them into office or attend their seminars in order to prolong such a supposedly inevitable fate.

>>17900384
>because it allows them to constantly shift the goalpost with regards to their standard for western civilization such that its demise will always be just 2 weeks away
How about 20 years? I'd say that's a fair estimation.

>>17900388
You said this 20 years ago

If the West does fall, which it likely will, it will remain in Africa and some parts of Europe, if it has not fallen. Then it will likely witness a second European Reformation-like era. This reformation will usher in new developments in science, as the previous reformation did.

>>17900408
Source?

>>17900425
>which it likely will
Please describe exactly what your standard and definition of "fall" is in your own personal context so I can disagree because this isn't a productive conversation anyone should be having.

>>17900433
The West no longer being the center of power and influence, politically, artistically, economically, culturally, and militarily, in the world.

>>17900449
Then I will have to disagree because being a global hegemon is a terrible standard for simply existing, I'm pretty sure the west will still exist in your scenario, retard.

>>17900326
This very statement disproves that idea. There's nothing inherently civilizational about Christianity, it's not something that encourages vitality in the same way that Classical virtues did.

>>17900458
I....disagree completely? Jesus' final command is to go out into the nations and convert them, change the world completely and impose Jesus' values unto the whole world until it becomes the kingdom of God.

I can hardly think of anything more vitalistic than that.

>>17900451
>s a terrible standard for simply existing
I'm not talking about simply "existing" but being at the top of the world.
> I'm pretty sure the west will still exist in your scenario,
No, it won't, what we call the West will disintegrate into individual nations, each looking out for their own interest, not being part of a greater civilizational whole, like Africa is today, or South America, or Central Asia.

>>17900458
>>17900469
As a matter of fact, I'd say Christianity is even more vitalistic than Classical virtues, because Christianity demans from oneself to engage with the world and never giving up, doing everything one can do to spread the message of Jesus and convert everyone, no matter the cost.

Classical virtues don't have an impulse to spread as far and wide as possible.

>>17900469
Sub Saharan Africa is considered its own civilization, and South America is part of the greater Latin America. Central Asia is also kind of its own thing too. You're not making any sense
>I'm not talking about simply "existing" but being at the top of the world.
Great, so your standard for "fall" doesn't matter, gotcha

>>17900492
I think we're done, you absolutely don't understand what I'm saying.

>>17900494
See you in 2 weeks, retard

>>17900497
See you in 20 years, retard.

>>17900326
It already moved there, but it doesn't look like it will survive competition with Islam.

>>17900477
Spreading jew worship is not a virtue

>>17900319
No. Western Civilization is a mental parasite that grew from the body of European Christendom and ultimately killed it. Its materialistic/satanic nature makes it utterly alien to Christianity.

Christians should take pleasure in its death.