Thread 17902687

In the end, he won. Bar Kochba and the jews achieved what they so desperately wanted: an independent jewish state. This became a reality with the state of israel, one of the most powerful, richest, and prosperous nations in the world.
Furthermore, their enemies, the romans, were plundered, humiliated, and ultimately destroyed forever. Their successor (italy) is a poor, backward country in debt to the jews. Finally, to all the apologists for the roman empire who will respond to this thread, I say:
ROME AND HADRIAN LOST
JEWS WON
CRY ABOUT IT

>>17902687 (OP)
>we got given a stitty piece of desert because everyone felt bad for us
Good job, only took 2k years. Maybe someday you won't be a welfare dependent client state.

>>17902693
US aid to Israel is 3.5 billion per year which is around 0.583333333% of Israel's total GDP (600 billion), and it's in weapons not cash. Israel would still survive without US aid, it would only be slightly more globally isolated since most of the world already hates Israel anyways and that hasn't still weakened them.

>>17902695
Modern Italians barely have any genetic ties to the Latins lmao, the Latins were conquered and raped out of existence by brutish Goths, Lombards, Arabs, and Germans. Modern day Italians are genetically closer to the Germans than they are to ancient Romans. The Jews ironically enough are more genetically related to the Romans than Italians are.

Also, the Jews at least still worship their own native god Yahweh while no Italian today worships Jupiter, Mars, or any other Roman god.

>>17902703
At least Jews still have significant Levantine DNA while Italians have zero Roman DNA

>>17902693
>>17902695
Could you show me where the roman empire is on the map, please?

Rome still lives on, rent free, in your head.

>>17902687 (OP)
>Their successor (italy) is a poor, backward country in debt to the jews

Italy is in the top 10 economies of the world by GDP. I don't know why people think they're like Mexico or something.

It is kind of funny that all the Jews go touch a Roman fort to pay their respects and allegiance to SPQR. They even make all their shabbos goyim pledge their allegiance to Roma!

The diaspora is not real and Josephus exaggerates the impact of the first Jewish war to such a ridiculous extreme it's insane that people still parrot the idea. Same goes for Hadrian's romanization of the province. The majority of Jews stayed put and eventually converted to Christianity/Islam over the centuries, meaning the Palestinians are more than likely the descendents of the original Jews of the bible. The typical modern Israeli as we known them today is the descendent of European converts who have no blood ties to the land, whose ancestors lived in modern day Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, etc. It's a successful colonization scheme by a bunch of European converts playing pretend. You can defend the actions of Israel or decry them, but you can't seriously tell me that there's an unbroken genetic line between the average Jewish person who moved from Brooklyn NY to Tel Aviv in the 70s and the people of Solomon and David. Or that atheist zionists like Theodore Herzl who used cynically biblical imagery to justify their nation-building and trick retarded Evangelicals into supporting them have anything in common with Bar Kochba. It's ludicrously stupid. It would be like me as an Amerifat claiming to have Native American ancestry and dressing up like an Apache.

>>17902715
And Israel and the jews live off your taxes LMAO