>Roman Empire? Impressive, but its crimes against Germanic peoples are not to be forgiven. Its subjugation by them was righteous and inevitable.

>>17905897 (OP)
>MUFUGGIN ROHMAN COLONIZERS STOP BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND STABILIZING THE REGIONS WE JUST WANT TO SQUAT INNAWOODS AND FUCK GOATS ALL DAY

>>17905909
Yeah it’s cool how the Romans built infrastructure that the later Germanic conquerors would use God truly works in mysterious ways

>>17905897 (OP)
the dark ages did us a favor
it delayed the industrial revolution for a few hundred centuries, which prolonged the existence of humans

>>17905897 (OP)
the more i think about it, the more i realize the germans who weren't conquered by romans were much more based than those iberian "chads" who were conquered by romans

>>17905897 (OP)
LEGIONES REDDE

>>17905897 (OP)
>self-defense
That would've been fighting the Huns, which they didn't do. Instead they first asked to be allowed to enter Roman land as refugees, and then chimped out.

>>17906360
It's a lot more nuanced than that. Especially when the Romans try to pit them against one another and allow some in and others not.

>>17906386
>It's a lot more nuanced than that.
It might be, but I'm not going to go into it while responding to a wojak thread on /his/
>Especially when the Romans try to pit them against one another
Literally every empire ever has done this to their neighbors
>and allow some in and others not.
Yeah right, why didn't they just have an open border and take in every single barbarian who wanted to enter? They totally deserved it.

>>17905909
Extremely ignorant post

>>17905897 (OP)
>subjugation
>embraced Roman customs and the Latin language
>had to rely on Roman administrators to keep their barbaric quasi-kingdom shitholes intact

>>17906360
The Germans asked if they could enter as subjects of the relevant emperor. The Romans agreed and offered to take their children in first. The Germans agreed and then their Romans enslaved their children and told them to fuck off.
Fuck the Roman empire, a bunch of degenerates.

>>17906453
I think this is basically why France had a head start on the HRE in the medieval period. The HRE's origins was a fractious patchword of multi-ethnic tribes, whereas France aleady had a legacy of systems of governance.

>>17906360
Germans are savage orcs, you deserve total death. Just remember that the Pope convinced Atilla to not sack Rome even after he sacked northern Italy. Atilla obliged and left. When the pope asked the vandals three years later they didn’t listen and proceeded to sack Rome. You are beneath Turkomongols in kindness and soul. Germanic tribes today need to be all exterminated pronto.

>>17906459
Nobody told them to fuck off or mass enslaved children idiot. The main reason modern historians give for the chimpout is the fact that they were kept idle at the border in poor conditions for too long, in part due to the corruption of the Romans in charge of handling them and in part because the Emperor was preparing for war at the opposite edge of the empire. The empire had already grown too large by that point to properly handle an extraordinary situation like that.
>a bunch of degenerates.
I'm sure you, an anonymous user on 4chan, live a pure and chaste life

>>17906481
The Romans lost the gothic war. They should have just kept at it instead of signing a truce in which the lead negotiator of the Roman side was a literal Germanic Frank that probably had more sympathy for the Germanic goths than he did for every Roman that was not Germanic. Since that defeat the empire unraveled pretty fast. Stilicho literally abandoned Italy to the goths and Gaul to his ethnic brothers. The Romans should have been way more racist.

>>17906478
>latinx have to rely on an old pedo beggar to stop invasions

>>17906478
>Just remember that the Pope convinced Atilla to not sack Rome even after he sacked northern Italy.
Yeah by giving him the treasury as tribute lmao

>>17906475
Stfu Goffart, there were no multi-ethnic tribes, each tribe was of one (sub-)ethnicity.

The world is full of its ironies.

We have the original religions of the Aryans, Hinduism and it’s gone with its vedas and what we have left is subhuman Jeets with no morals pretending to be real aryans.

On other hand we have white people abandoning their religions of past and embracing a soul less middle eastern religion bowing down to Jews and Christcucks. The worst mistake Roman Empire did was using it’s empire resources to propagate Christianity throughout its vast territories

>>17906475
this just in, the legitimacy of the germanic kingdoms came from the pope who was actively trying to shift Christianity west and was inviting the germanics into italy just so he didn't have to pretend to like the byzantines. The states that were created from this retardation have lasting legacies in the french who were some of the most antagonistic underhanded assholes in europe

all those hundreds of years of Rome trying to conquer Germania and they ended up getting conquered by the Germanics instead

>>17907297
rather I see this as the pope jettisoning off his med slaves and kissing the feet of germanics

>>17907297

Does /his/ not understand that by the even the late 4th century the line between Germanics and Romans in the west had blurred until the two were almost unrecognizable from one another? Roman armies were made up of a mixture of ethnic Germans who had settled west/south of the Rhine and Danube, supplemented by mercenaries who were even less romanized. Romans had been dressing in Germanic clothing and Germans had been adopting Roman battle tactics and integrating themselves into the Roman political system almost entirely by that point besides being granted the title of Augustus or Caesar. Even when the west was in terminal decline Germanic chieftans wanted to work within the Roman system. Alaric sacked Rome because he wanted food, money, and a promotion. Gaiseric wanted to get some loot sure but he also wanted to put his own puppet emperor on the throne that he could influence just like Ricimer would end up doing. Even when territories started breaking away from the empire wholesale it was more a case of existing Roman aristocrats and landlords paying taxes to the new guy for protection than random looting/pillaging, though that did happen in some cases.

>>17907397
I dont think any of them wanted Charlemagne taking over half of Europe and creating two fake states out of it that would constantly get in slap fights

Germans are the most conquered and raped people in Europe and up there in the world next to Indians, they were trampled over far more times than even the Chinese and the Russians. Germs have DNA from almost everyone in Europe.
While every balkan village has a village rapist, every German village has a plaque dedicated to a Swede rapist who impregnated everyone there. Swedes forced Germans to eat their shit. This may have contributed to their scat fetish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwedentrunk
Germany has never won a war. They finally stopped getting raped and shat on (literally) and formed a functioning state in 1871, something even the Russmongoloid slaves did centuries ago. They chimped out at Europeans twice and got BTFO each time leading to another round of rape for Germany this time by Russmongoloids.
The most conquered and humiliated rapebabies of Europe who got anally devastated by Romans, Huns, Habsburgs, Czechs, Swedes, Frenchmen, Russians and now Arab rapist migrants, the trauma has caused Germans to become autistic, extremely obedient to authority and lacking in empathy.

>>17907548
I think the lack of empathy was already there. That's called being based. But that's just on the eurocuck scale of morality

>>17907548
size of wisconsin and took russia us and bankrupting the entire british empire who controlled 34% of the earth to defeat them though i mean were all those allied armies that shitty

>>17907548
Why are you seething so much? Did a German rape your nana or something?

>>17907580
He had a German at the zoo throw shit at him

>>17907297
romans conquer, turn the land into roman
germans conquer, they become romans

>>17906386
>allow some in
They didn’t allow any of them in other than the Visigoths. They all just invaded the Empire without asking, they weren’t refugees they were a foreign people completely outside of the Roman system invading and partitioning the state

>>17906475
This is like the exact opposite. The HRE was more centralised, powerful and competent in pursuing its goals until the 13th century than France. They both came from the same state, being the Frankish Empire, while feudal disintegration was stopped in Germany with Otto it did not stop in France until royal power completely collapsed with the usurpation of the Carolingians. It would take the Capets centuries to claw back Royal authority which the Germans never lost. Only with the reforms of Phillip Augustus and the collapse of royal power in Germany during the interregnum did this switch

>>17907721
he's too voltaire-brained, what can you do

>>17907717
Legitimizing bastard barbarians which know nothing but plunder was probably the dumbest thing Rome could have done. Then again I guess the contribution they gave to the empire is why they larp to this day as grekoids.

Frankly I'd like to go back to killing pigs with spears