Thread 17908700

Why is the islamic civilization browns kang the most, Al Andalus, the one that happen to be made of mainly of white european?

Saaaarrrr

>>17908700 (OP)
This makes no sense when there is no racism in Islam.

>>17908750
There may be no racism in Islam the religion, but Muslims on an individual level are some of the most racist, tribalism motherfuckers on earth.

>>17908700 (OP)
It was arab-berber elites that fucked so much european women that they become whites
They used black hair dye to look like their forefathers and hide their female mediated ancestry

>>17908700 (OP)
I might be wrong but I feel like Pakistanis LARP as more successful Muslim civilizations

>>17908750
Biological realities don't care about religion

>>17909011
You can't even define race and you think it's equivalent to the laws of physics.

>>17908729
They will not react to this and this image will stay at the top of the thread without a simple reply even though it perfectly addresses this weird autism that has recently took over /his/ where they claim that anadalusians were racially distinct aryan ubermensch who hated north africans.

>>17909089
Because haplomemes are not even 0.1% of your actually genetics
There's a region in Spain where people have an even higher ratio of EM81 (the Pasiegos) that al andalus did so what we're supposed to think that these people are Moroccans and nlt Spaniards even if they're genetically closer to a Russian than a nafri (as were the Andalusi)
Your IQ of 65 is showing Mohamed.

>>17908729
Thread lol.

>>17909021
I'm not that guy but race is just the biological markers that produce the common traits held by human sub-groupings such as skin color, height, intelligence and personality. We know all of these traits are strongly heritable and that they remain consistent throughout genetic clusters. In other words, it is blindingly obvious that when two black people have a child, sans mutation, the child will be black. You dipshits who insist that this is somehow an unscientific process or that certain heritable traits like IQ are magically divorced from the process of genetic, racialized inheritance are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth. Just because race being real makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it is.

>>17909214
Yeah but you have to define it

>>17909219
I literally just did.

>>17909160
Stop replying to yourself

>>17909214
intelligence is more nurture than nature btw seethe and cope
>>17909221
how do you define what the rices are though, other than draw arbitrary line on a genetic map? as you know, if we are to visualize the genetic mapping of humans then you will find that they are spread in two lines interconnecting. The difference between these humans isn't what's unscientific. what is unscientific is drawing arbitrary lines in this genome map and trying to define races alongside them.

your drawing on the right has such feminine eyelids he looks like a faggot

>>17909245
Intelligence is not 'more nurture than nature'. No study says this. Modern studies say that nurture is at best around 50% responsible for allowing gene expression but that your genetics determine what is actually possible. Sometimes I explain a concept that I instantly grasped to someone three times and they're just too fucking stupid to get it. That's not nurture.

Also the problem with 'arbitrary lines' is only an issue when you try to autistically quibble over whether skin tone #F97A42 is arabic or mongol and whether halpotype RM2816 is dravidian or proto-iranian like autists on this board like to do. There are no hard lines and races are broad social categories that match a range of expression of specific genes mapped to ethnic groups. Just because you can't really draw a specific line on the EXACT genes that determine 'scandinavian' versus 'russian' or 'german' after 1000s of years of fucking each other doesn't mean it's not a true fact that scandinavians tend to be very tall, very pale, and quite intelligent, all of which is firmly rooted in clearly defined genetic markers.

>>17909265
they have the same eyelids, presumably the older nafri meme guy was copy pased and edited to look like the moop

>>17908729
OH NO NO NO

>>17909132
Seethe. North African haplogroups don't just pop up out of nowhere coincidentally during an invasion by North Africans, and them being so prevalent genetically in Al-Andalus is all the proof you need they had an extensive presence there. We can easily know thanks to genetic evidence, depictions as well as descriptions a very significant part of the populace and the elite were made up of North Africans straight out of Africa, as well as Moors who were admixed thanks to North Africans breeding the ever loving fuck out of native white Iberian women. The Andalusian elite were mostly non-white Moors, you got conquered end of story

>>17909305
There were already a ton of em81 in the imperial period. There are em81 in Spain that are older rhan even any bell beakers
There wasn't a surge in north african ancestry following the muslim conquest since hispano romans already had a similar genetics profile. The anomaly are modern Spaniards who have a low rate of north african genetics because they are descended from northern settlers who had little north african DNA
>genetic evidence
Literally all genetic evidence support the opposite of what you're saying. Reminder that there isn't a single nafri autosomal profile in Al Andalus, not even a half one.

>>17909350
Also Iberians were never white as in nordic looking and pure Iberians with the skin tone of the man you posted or even darker are not rare. The man on the left of your picture would be the odd one if anything.

>>17909358
I meant on the right

>>17909358
>>17909361

>>17908947
100 percent this. Ditto for the ottoman emperors. They both drowned in pink european pussy and all their family memebrs resembled eurioeans more then their own countrymen lol. Power of pink nipples and pussy lol.

>>17909214
I think it'd obvious that humans are different but what makes a race? Where do you draw the line? Are russians and portugeese exactly the same? Japanese and vietnese? Egyptions and the zulu? Biological diversity exists and humans are even more complicated bc culture creates even bigger differences than skin color or hair color or bone density or disease resistance. But no, humans can't easily be divided into a white brown and black and Asian races lol. If you were scientific about it you would use hablogroups and there would be 32 different races.

>>17909413
Man on the left is mulatto. Man on the roght is southern european case in point. Btw modern Moroccans are a lot more niggerish that the berbers of the medieval era whzre. Which make their claim over al andalus sound even more stupid

>>17909350
The major admixture events began in the 8th-12th century onwards. Specifically African branches of Haplogroup E don't just come out of nowhere kek
>there isn't a single nafri autosomal profile
?

>>17909435
>The major admixture events began in the 8th-12th century onwards
No, hispano romans already had a similar genetic profile. If anything they might even hace slightly more north african on average
>?
Are you illiterate nafri? Tgere isn't a single north african autosomal profile in al andalus. Which lean that actual north africans weren't common there.
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>>17909457
>Which lean that actual north africans weren't common there.
They were actually rarer than jews who already were a tiny minority. But we still have a decent number of jewish samples in spite of that. But 0 north African samples

>>17909350
E-M81 wasn't present among Beaker let alone before them. They did rape a lot of Steppe pussies.

>Uniparental markers support the autosomal results and provide information about the nature and proximal origin of this influx. In the four areas included in our study, we find mitochondrial and Y-chromosome lineages with a clear African origin, such as mitochondrial haplogroups L1, L2, L3, and the more North Africa-specific U6, or Y-chromosome haplogroup E1b-M81which reaches peak frequencies in present-day northwest Africa. These lineages coexist with others clearly related to the preceding pre-Roman populations, supporting the admixture of North African individuals with the local Iberian population.
>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.09.23.614606v1.full

This is the exact opposite of what happened and in fact the whote Iberian muslims are the ones who got beheaded by nafri BVLLS. dilate.

>>17909512
The Almoravid and Almohads were shitholes that had none of the refinement of Al Andalus
>>17909492
No there were em81 in Spain in the early bronze age even if it was rare
>>17909507
Yes so it confirms what everyone know, the incursion of berber fna larhely predate the mudlim conquest

>>17909625
>No there were em81 in Spain in the early bronze age even if it was rare
Show us these E-M81 "samples" lmao.

>>17909221
Phenotypes are not enough. It needs to be a biological reality like chromosomes, certain percentages of DNA or genetic distance.
You can't just say skin color and eye color and that's it.

>>17908947
>>17909423
>the pink women of southern Spain and Greece
You are delusional shitskin incels lmfao.
You are bug eyed narrow shouldered bulbhead freaks that your own women have abandoned you to get sexed in Europe.
You cope with pornography and these weird ahistorical fantasies.

>>17909457
You are trying to defend that the hispano romans were a melting pot mutts, that I assume you are forgetting the massive influx that the visigoth conquest meant, it is more than obvious that the moors conquered and fucked the white people in hispania, as simple as that

>>17909871
>your own women have abandoned you to get sexed in Europe.
>Algeria birth rate: 2.8
>Poland birth rate: 1.16
If there is a race who's women abandoned them, it's not us you hot-pink dicked faggot LMAOOO. You will literally be replaced and we will be the majority. Mind how you treat us, cause how you treat us now we will reflect once YOU become the minority.

Al-Andalus was a blend of Muslims, Christians, and Jews all living together.

>>17908700 (OP)
I always play as Granada in EU4 and establish White Sharia, I usually culture convert all of Maghreb to Andalusian too

>>17908700 (OP)
>>17909457
>>17909132
>>17909871
>AAAAAYAAAYAYAYAAYYY SEENIOOOR AL ANDALUS WUZ ACKSHUALLY AN ARYAN HYPERBOREA O ALGO !!!!!!
you're a literal nigger-admixed moor rapebaby, raped into existence and civilized by brown africans

>>17909916
The Goths were very few in numbers and had little impact

>>17910370
One of these guy is Italian btw, edit your pic

>>17909871
Its nafri males with euro females in europe
Not the other way around wignat cuck

>>17910478
Lots of actual nafris whores in europe
In Spain they are the main whore demography after latina

>>17908700 (OP)
Isn't art of humans forbidden in Islam?

>>17910484
Spanish brothels are mostly Spanish whores and some Latinas and Slavs. Spanish women also happen to be the nastiest of the lot, they literally do anything for like 100-200 euros.

>>17908700 (OP)
99% of the people of al andalus were brown, these are just a bunch of visigothic admixed emires, sultans and knights

>>17909350
>There were already a ton of em81 in the imperial period
thanks to north african migrants

>There are em81 in Spain that are older rhan even any bell beakers
no, there aren't, that's why you're not showing any samples

>>17908700 (OP)
Reading and learning about history made me stop caring about religion and start caring about race instead. I've come to realize that certain races of people will prosper no matter what religion, culture, or ideology they have, while certain races of people will never prosper no matter what religion, ideology, or culture they have.

>>17911263
>I've come to realize that certain races of people will prosper no matter what religion, culture, or ideology they have, while certain races of people will never prosper no matter what religion, ideology, or culture they have.
This is the msot retarded take i have ever read in my life. Germanics lived in mudhut shitholes while brown middle easterners and egyptians prospered. Italy was a center of civilization while Anglos were having sex with animals and taking mudbaths. Today the exact opposite is true. Can you give me any example of any race that has prospered in all circumstances?

>>17911267
the supposed historian will likely tell you about everyone being nordic before a bunch of 9 inch cock having beduins raped everyone with blonde hair

>>17911326
damn. Was Benjamin Franklin right?

Here's a real redpill, iberberians were brown even before the moorish invasion.