Thread 17910872

Why are atheists so arrogant when they don't have an answer?

>>17910872 (OP)
I'm sorry Gervais, I'll try better next time :(

>>17910872 (OP)
>and THAT is why you should mutilated your cock, beleive in talking snakes and give your money to Israel

>>17910875
Not an argument.

Because at least they don't help spread all the wrong things that end up misleading the masses, like the tribe does.

>>17910872 (OP)
I rather have questions that can not be answered than answers that can not be questioned

Enjoy your religious delusions

>>17910927
When did they hack up your cock christkike? Was it when you were a baby and they strapped you down so you couldn't struggle? Doesn't that sound fucking psychopathic to you?

>>17910872 (OP)
>Why are atheists so arrogant when they don't have an answer?

It's the religious people who are the arrogant ones.

Nice bait, I guess

>>17910872 (OP)
neither believers nor non-believers can prove their point, you won't know if god exists or not unless you die

>>17911071
I see you have shut Him out of your heart.

>>17910872 (OP)
>admitting you don't have the answers is more arrogant than insisting you have everything figured out based on one 2000 year old book
christian moment

>>17911281
>for evidence of God you must already believe in Him

>>17911062
t. doesn't understand "cutting off the flesh"
Arguing with this guy is like arguing with a meat automaton which is pricked and poked in its flesh meat with invisible needles by demons to achieve the desired result out of him. He is a meat puppet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yotJ4IAp6qA

They are just strongly committed to a fucking lie.

>>17911293
It takes some serious bravado to reject a belief that is verified consistently all over the world and has been for thousands of years.
>>17911616
You have to be humble enough to let Him come to you.
>>17911770
Indeed, a lie that has not existed for a couple hundred years.

>>17911062
>When did they hack up your cock christkike?
You realize the jews got that idea from paganism, right, retard?

>>17912817
>You have to be humble enough to let Him come to you.

Creator of the universe of not, I don't want to let some old bearded guy cum inside me.

>>17910872 (OP)
Theists still didn't refute this point.

>>17911638
Peak christkike argumentation
>>17912831
Pretty dumb for god's chosen lol

>>17913319
Deism, Omnism and Pantheism kinda suggests that all those Gods are just manifestations and interpretations of the same God, this is more a critique on religion than it is about theism itself

>>17913380
That assumes that deism, omnism and pantheism are the correct interpretations and that tge other religions/philosophies got it wrong

>>17913319
Gervais is trying to pull a zinger, but it should be expanded upon further to add insult to injury

>3000 different religions that co exist at the same time in 2025.

this debunks the christcuck argument when they try to say "3000 different way to describe physics, but only Newtonian is correct!"

>>17913380
>that all those Gods are just manifestations and interpretations of the same G...
BURN THIS HERETIC!

>>17913403
>3000 different way to describe physics, but only Newtonian is correct!"
Who are you quoting again?

>>17912817
Nobody has verified shit, and if you accept Christian miracles then why don't you accept Shinto or Zorastrian miracles. I usually don't argue with you tards, exactly for this reason, you need to decide which of your gods are real first.

>>17913403
The only injurious thing about that is how banal and retarded it's always been.

>>17913319

>But not yours. Yours is real.

Yes.

>>17911638
They did strap you down and sliced up your dick didn't they? It's not normal to strap a newborn baby to a board so it can't struggle and wriggle away from the knife being used to mutilate him. It's not normal and they shouldn't have done it to you.

>>17912831
And Christians got it from the Jews. It doesn't matter who started it, noone should be doing it.

Christians don't have a tradition of circumcising newborns and if you read Acts, you'll see this is actually considered a heresy (Judaizing) by the early Church.

>>17911057
But anon, Atheism is its own religion.
I would also like to know what do you believe to be the necessary being.
>>17913319
Not an argument against the existence of God. I can actually flip this argument against Atheism. There have been 3001 views on the existence of God, and you believe yours is right?

>>17910875
None of this is condoned by Apostolic Christianity.
>>17911062
If you even bothered reading the New Testament you would have figured out that circumcision is not necessary for Christians.

>>17913532
>retarded
uhhh isnt it a sin for Christians to swear?

>>17913538
>Christians got it from the jews
Christians don’t circumcise, not a single apostolic church holds to this. It should also be obvious to anyone who read the New Testament that circumcision is not necessary at all.

>>17913760
>Not an argument against the existence of God.
What God? But yours is real right?
Go argue with another theists which of yours Gods is real and which is made up nonsense. Come back if you won your argument against them.

>>17911062
>hack up your cock
Shechem does this when he rapes Dinah, because the simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to their steps. As for me, מִילָה means "word", and that is how the covenent is formed.

>>17911062
you really upset the christ trannies with that one anon.

>>17913596
>>17913763
>>17913775
>>17913775
>that's not REAL Christianity!!!!

Absolutely pathetic. You've all got cut socks, haven't you? It's OK. You can admit it. The healing starts when you acknowledge you were wronged by those you should have been able to trust.

>>17913833
This is completely irrelevant to the debate on the existence of a monotheistic God. You know yourself that this is not an argument. Please tell me who different belief systems affect any argument for the existence of God.
>>17913873
>that’s not real christianity
That is not even Christianity if you ever bothered reading the New Testament.

>>17913866
Where does the New Testament command us to circumcise you dishonest tranny?

>>17912817
>It takes some serious bravado to reject a belief that is verified consistently all over the world and has been for thousands of years.
lol I grew up around jehovahs witnesses who would claim all sorts of miracles. miracle claims don't mean jack shit.

>>17914068
Paul told Timothy to circumcise himself.

but let me guess
>Paul was just telling Timothy to uphold jewish culture since he was a jew to sell christianity to the jews

>>17914075
Paul? Not Jesus?

>>17914070
Those accounts are false, as well as that of mormons.

>>17914080
And youre calling me the tranny? lol
The "ignore Paul, listen to Jesus" strat is the entire foundation of LGBT liberal christianity. Christians who indentify as Faggot, hate Paul.

>>17914075
>Paul told Timothy to circumcise himself.
One of the detail that makes Acts untrustworthy imo. I don't think the same Paul who wrote the picrel passages from Galatians and refused to let Titus be circumcised under pressure, viewing it as slavery and contrary to the gospel, ("We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.") would go ahead and circumcise Timothy preemptively for fear that the local Jews would be having a penis-inspection day.

>what's your answer then theistfag?

>magic man in sky did things

>...

>>17914113
forgot picrel

>>17913873
God-hater argument.
You COULD be like Paul, who had his valid reasons to be against circumcision, (the jews were missing the point of the new covenant,) but for some reason, everyone who rails against circumcision these days happens to hate God.
Who are you to judge God when you can't even understand Him or the meaning and context of the stories? I bet your next favorite one is Abraham almost sacrificing Isaac.
>Desert rabbi volcano God schizo human sacrifice!
You'd be surprised at what the elites in this world get up to, the ones whose side you're on with the God-hating argument.

>>17913538
>It's not normal and they shouldn't have done it to you
Not him but thanks, I needed to hear that.

>>17914113
https://youtu.be/VI1yRTC6kGE?t=1805

>>17913873
>>that's not REAL Christianity!!!!
But it's not. I know you can't read but you should make an effort if you want to know what you're talking about and not look like a complete fucking lunatic.

Because atheists are free, it feels good to not be shackled by fabricated stories

>>17914064
>This is completely irrelevant to the debate on the existence of a monotheistic God.
I am not taking any arguments until you win argument against all other theists that your God is real.
>your God is silly made up nonsense

>>17913763
>None of this is condoned by Apostolic Christianity.
Genesis 17:10
Matthew 5:18
Repent and chop it, faggot.

>>17913760
Why do you people insist on calling atheism a religion? ‘I don’t think a thing is real’ is not the same as ‘I think the thing is real.’ I get that you’re mad you’ve been insulted by some fedoramancer troll on YouTube or Facebook, but absence of a thing is not the thing.

>>17915076
>Why do you people insist on calling atheism a religion?
Because they know religion is retarded.

>>17915084
S’ damning point you make. Using yourself as what you think is an insult towards someone else speaks volumes of how you view yourself. So a religious person calling atheism a religion in an attempt to denigrate the view point is … well. Yup. This is why I really can’t traffic with all the religion shit. I sort of wish I could because it seems comforting to the ones that don’t take it as an excuse to fight with everybody, but I just can’t suspend disbelief. Talking snakes, planetary floods with petting zoo cruise ships, etc.

>>17910875
did you know that circumcision is spiritual not actual, to circumcise your heart free of sin

repent for bearing false witness

>>17914075
Yes so he can preach to the jews. To avoid scandalizing them. Now again, show me where the New Testament commands us to circumcise ourselves.
>>17914885
Why would you care if my God is real if you do not even believe in God? In the steps to prove to you any monotheistic religion, you need to be convinced that monotheism is real.

>>17914931
Refers to the moral law you retarded illiterate faggot.
>>17915076
The reason I call atheism a religion is because it believes and professes there is no God, if you were agnostic leaning into atheism, I would not call you it that.
>>17915084
>>17915096
No it is because you hypocritically criticize religion as if you weren’t one.

>>17916577
>Why would you care if my God is real if you do not even believe in God?
So you agree that your god is silly made up nonsense.
You have no proofs that yours god is true.

>>17914116
>>17911616
Preposition 1: Things are in motion
Preposition 2: Things moved are moved by another
1. Whatever is in motion is moved by another.
2. Infinite regress per se subordinated series is impossible.
Whatever moves is moved by another, to be moved is to go from potency (moved) to an act (mobile) by a mover. (Definition of motion).
Potency and act cannot be attributed to the same thing in the same sense because it is contradicting.
Therefore, the thing which is moved (potential) does not move (act) itself.
Now for infinite regress, a) each moved mover is an instrumental mover; it communicates movement. b) That which communicates movement has it from another.
c) Thus, none of the instrumental movers have movement in of themselves.
d) Finally, the multiplication of those who lack movement of themselves will not result in one which does.

>>17916709
See this >>17916701

>>17916709
>who moved the primary mover?

>he's magic so the logic doesn't apply to him..
>stop laughing..

>>17916701
See this>>17916709

>>17916712
It is not magic, is the thing that moves moved by itself or moved by another?

>telling Christians to stop strapping newborn babies to torture devices so they can't struggle as their genitals are mutilated causes them to lose their fucking minds

It's not normal. It's not right. THIS is not normal.

>>17916720
Except that Christians do not circumcise their children, have you read the New Testament?

>>17916716
>special pleading

I accept your defeat

>>17916721
I'm sorry they cut you up. I really am sorry.

>>17916721
80-90% of american boys have been mutilated lol

don't you know it's a sign of your convenant with god?

even rabbi yeshua was circumcized y'know

>>17916739
>no answer
I accept your concession.
Anyways I will show you the results.
>is the thing that moves moved by itself or moved by another
If not moved, then unmoved mover.
If moved:
>is it moved eventually by a first mover or not?
By first, then unmoved mover.
If not, see this >>17916741 infinite regress the way you like is impossible.
>>17916709
I was not because we do not circumcise, but you obviously did not read any scripture before giving useless comments.
>>17916742
Circumcision is not the sign of the new covenant with God. Again you are talking about things you never bothered looking up.

>>17916782
>>17916739
See this for infinite regress* >>17916709

And you >>17916741
We do not circumcise if you bother reading the New Testament.

>>17916721
>Except that Christians do not circumcise their children, have you read the New Testament?
I love when the TradTards here pull the “It’s fucking obvious. Have you even read the Bible” when their fellow Christians IRL universally disagree with them and would kick them out of church for espousing their “obvious” opinions.

Nearly all 200 million+ Christian Americans consider it a religious requirement to circumcise their sons.

It fills me with joy to know your “Christian brothers” fucking hate you and the rest of your 4Chan Christian kind.

>>17916782
>>17916803
>everything requires a cause
>except my skydaddy
special pleading lol

>>17916782
>Circumcision is not the sign of the new covenant with God. Again you are talking about things you never bothered looking up.

Denying gods word. Enjoy hell.

>>9 And God said to Abraham, “As for you, you shall keep my covenant, you and your offspring after you throughout their generations. 10 This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your offspring after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you.

>>17916807
>fellow Christians universally disagree wit them
You absolutely have no idea what you are talking about, the 200 million protestants don’t all circumcise, that’s for starters and the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Assyrian, and Oriental Orthodox churches all deny the necessity of circumcision. You just another ameritard who thinks your country is the entire world.
>picrel
You even used a reddit post to prove your point. What a retard.
Also for your information, opposing circumcision isn’t a trad larp thing to do, it is the infallible teaching the Catholic church after and before Vatican II.

>>17916809
>still no answer
Another concession, I accept your surrender.
>>17916811
>covenant between me and you
This refers to the old covenant you illiterate retard. Man you know nothing, retire from 4chan entirely.

>>17916821
>You just another ameritard who thinks your country is the entire world.
Uh huh, and what country are you from? You speak English and are posting on a website that is primarily trafficked by USA citizens.

Regarding your second point, American Catholics circumcise, and the Catholic church rolled back its ban on circumcision decades ago (because of Americans). Did I mention the Pope is American? The Pope is likely circumcised as well.

Cope more, retard. Your church hates you.

>>17916825
>throughout your generations
>no time limit

Enjoy hell.

>>17916835
>American Catholics circumcise
Again assuming that America is the entire planet like the Amerifag retard you are.
>ban on circumcision
You retard, the church still teaches that circumcision is unnecessary. Please show me one encyclical from any Pope that teaches that circumcision is necessary, you obviously can’t you retard. Also see these about circumcision and the old law.
>Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corpus, #29-30
>Pope Eugene IV at the Council of Florence
>St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, Pt. I-II, Q.103, A 4.
>Pope Benedict XIV, Ex Quo Primum,
The circumcision of Leo XIV is irrelevant if true since he never opted to do so. You are so retarded.

>>17916843
Did you ever bother reading the New Testament? Maybe so you can understand that circumcision can be spiritual.

>>17916742
Could there be people, somewhere out there, who aren't american?

>>17911293
>admitting they don't have the answers
No atheist does that. Who you are thinking of are agnostics. Not that I don't consider abrahamics to be a bunch of biased, self-contradicting morons but atheists aren't any better. Whats the point of hreating material scientific results as dogmas if they change all the time?

>>17916855
>rabbi yeshua goes against the divine law
>also a sabbath breaker

no wonder he got crucified. why does he contradict his dad?

>>17916909
To fulfill the law. He did not contradict his dad as his dad is the one who sent him in the first place.

>>17916949
ok so all old testament laws are void now?

you can kill people and steal their wife? I can have other gods? I can wear mixed fabric!

jesus fulfilled it yay

>>17912817
so what ? Hinduism is older than Christianity. Islam also has a lot of followers. Shamanism has existed long long before even the concept of a monotheistic God emerged. All religions claim to have "damming proof". so, wtf makes your religion so special huh ? was it childhood indoctrination ? Or is it just blind faith ?

>>17917023
No because he fulfilled the ceremonial laws, the killing you refer to is banned by the moral law which preceded the old covenant. It is unaffected by the old covenant.

>>17917346
t. your headcanon

jesus fulfilled all laws that's why there's a new covenant

we can make idols now woohoo

Being intellectually honest is good.