Thread 17911599

okay but where do jews come from? like very early history what led to their creation

>>17911599 (OP)

Serpent Seed.

>>17911599 (OP)
A festering pit of rotting flesh got mixed with a festering river of piss and shit and from that we have Abraham

>>17911602
Kill yourself larping shinto cunt.

>>17911599 (OP)
It's my belief that Abraham was descended from Sargon of Akkad who might also be Cain from the bible (Sarru-Ki-In/King Ki-In). Jews didn't exist before Abraham but I believe when semites spread agriculture to hunter-gatherer tribes they leveraged their more advanced knowledge to present themselves as religious guides and establish themselves as a "priest class" over the civilizations they spread agriculture to, maintaining a global cultural exchange/trade network between themselves, this is the "snake cult" and there might be a connection between Jews and the "bronze age snake cult" but I don't necessarily think they're the exact same thing (the snake cult likely predates Abraham, Jews are descendants of Abraham). Jews are arguably more like a splinter faction/cult within the broader "snake cult".

>>17911599 (OP)
Abraham sons
Isaac (Israel) -> father of Jews
Ishmael -> father of Arabs

>>17911632

I'm a Roman Catholic.

>>17911730
Kill yourself larping shinto cunt

>>17911599 (OP)
Just one of many middle eastern semitic peoples who decided somehow to do monotheism instead of polytheism

>>17911730
Lying and gooning are sins in Catholicism

>>17911599 (OP)
The early history certainly revolves around their existence as part of the Kingdom of Egypt. Imperial control was fairly ineffective and inevitably states would develop and break off, though not totally escaping Egyptian influence.
When you have important narratives like Exodus, they are going to contain encodings for historical movements, but more as a kind of dream that represents the collective experience.
Moses escaping from Pharaoh and leading his people to wander for 40 years in the wilderness is akin to the process of a nation fighting for independence.
As far as cultural influences go, you can pretty much look at whatever was around 1500-1000 BC and find possible connections since there was plenty of trade and political realignment going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQROdm40lU&t=57s&ab_channel=AncientLevant

>>17911599 (OP)
The Hebrews from the cult of Yahweh staged a coup d'état and established a dictatorship which persecuted the rest of the pantheon.

>>17911599 (OP)
Archeological evidence shows that Exodus never happened and instead of the Israelites conquering Canaan, the Israelites were just another Canaanite tribe that eventually became the dominant one. The earliest reference to “Israel” is the Merneptah stele around the 13th century BC which lists “Israel” as one of the many Canaanite tribes the Egyptians subdued around that time. Hebrew itself is literally a Canaanite language no different from Phoenician or Moabite. Due to how similar they are, I'd argue that they're not even separate languages but rather all dialects of one language.

The ancient Israelites were polytheistic and later henotheistic. Yahwism (aka proto-Judaism) evolved out of Canaanite paganism. Yahweh was originally a Canaanite storm god that eventually got elevated by the Israelites as the supreme deity and was syncretized with another deity called “El” (this is also why Yahweh is sometimes called "Elohim" as "Elohim" deprives from "El". This is also where the name “Israel” comes from as “Israel” literally means “rule of El”). Yahweh even had a consort named Asherah. The Israelites only actually became monotheistic after returning from exile in Babylon, which is interestingly around the same time they made contact with the monotheistic Zoroastrians.

>>17911911
so why are they the chosen people?

>>17912061
They aren't.

They became a people around 1000 BC when the tribes coalesced into a kingdom.

>>17912061
They made it up around the 3rd-2nd century BC. Doesn’t mean they were correct

>>17911602
fpbp

>>17911710
>mentioning the Patriarchs
yids are matriarchal...

>>17911599 (OP)
They were a cult that worshipped the pagan Canaanite deity of El exclusively and were shunned by their fellow community members and driven into the desert.

Then they started telling stories to their children of why they lived in the middle of the fucking desert, creating grandiose lies about how "God" actually chose them, and they took down the most powerful Empire of all time, Egypt, and escaped from them when their god daddy literally opened the sea for them to travel. It's also why they have so many stories about bashing Canaanite babies heads in, and how god hates them, and they were crushed by god as well.

Real stupid, petty shit.

Jews are named for Judaea

They and the Samaritans (who were not exiled) are what’s left of the Israelites

>>17912784
talmudic synagoguists and true hebrews aren't one in the same. those who can't integrate the old and the new testament with an ease of burden on the heart are i would think missing a pretty large chunk of understanding for historical context. or are deliberately dishonest as is doubtlessly the case on this board

>>17911599 (OP)
>>17911602
Hebrews = Cains lineage.
Israel = Sets lineage.
The hebrews appropriated Abram and Moses because they had become mutted enough for the Cohens to pull a psyop that they were of the lineage of the Hebrews as opposed to Set.
"Satan" is the attempt of Cain/Hebrews of turning the name of Set into the embodyment of the serpent boogeyman.
Seth/Set in Egyptian mythos is the storm-god of the foreigners, and helped Ra defeat the serpent Apep.
tldr;
Set is literally the Egyptian memory of the PIE stormgod/Thor.

The exact same place as gypsies. Rajasthan, India.

The original Hebrews were Indian Gypsies that migrated to the Middle East.

Brahma and sarasvati became Abraham and Sarah and so forth and so forth.

Flavins Josephus himself a Jew, admitted tot he Jews origin

>>17913881
Yeah ok Jacolliot. We'll just ignore that makes no sense whatsoever and is fully anachronistic.
Unless you are Indian, in which case, yeah ok Rajneesh.

>>17913896
Explain how it makes no sense? The connection between Jews and rajasthani gypsies is well documented. Again how does it not make sense explain or you’re just a butthurt little like that’s upset his people are descendants of the lowest class of Indians. Jews are lower the lowest Indian.

>>17913877
>"Satan" is the attempt of Cain/Hebrews of turning the name of Set into the embodyment of the serpent boogeyman.
Oh shit finally someone gets it. Blessed.

I'm iffy on the rest, including the whole stormgod/Thor thing but nevermind that.

>>17915099
I'm not saying Set is the contemporary Thor, but that Set and Thor stem from the same european pre-pie stormgod.

>>17911599 (OP)
After the conclusion of the Jewish-Roman wars the survivors either converted to Christianity, converted to Paganism, or fled east. A few scattered sects remained in and around Europe but what religion they practiced is unknown and other than Julian the Apostate reinstating the third temple to own the Christians we have very little idea what the demography was. Around the 5th century or so communities start to spring back up in Persia and the far east, with a lot of new ideas about gentiles and from that we get stuff like the Talmud, Kabbalah and a general focus on mysticism. It's around this point in Jewish history we start to see a syncretism emerging with pre-axial age religions and a much darker, hateful tone being composed in their religious literature. This progresses until the middle ages with writers like Maimonides and others, expanding with the tide of the Islamic golden age, reclaiming or expunging any competing sects of Judaism left over in the Caliph's lands. Things go dark again after the Crusades start and a few make their way to Europe, consequently getting repeatedly banished or sequestered into Ghettos until they land in the PLC. What happened here is unclear and academia is fairly tight lipped on whether there was some sort of mass-conversion of steppe peoples, but for what it's worth I'm pretty sure there was. Anyways, in the PLC and later the whole of eastern/central Europe they exploded in population despite being a tiny inbred minority and that's how we get the Jews of today. What's notable is during this period they had no homeland or real citizenship anywhere, they were stateless but simultaneously highly ethno-supremacist, which explains why they are currently torpedoing themselves into a strip of land in the Levant.

>>17911599 (OP)
Proto-Slavic tribes who migrated through the Caucasus region, inbred a lot and had schizo visions in the Levant, deciding it was their destiny to one day rule the world. Then got raped by Romans and gained a seething hatred for the West. The rest is history

>>17911599 (OP)
Modern Jews are just white people from Volga. They have a lot of med and slavic admixture.
Old Israelites are afroasiatics from the Horn that moved north really late compared to Aramaic speakers, Assyrians, Arabs, etc.