Thread 17911634

Why was edgy and angsty media so popular in the 90's anyway? Grunge, punk, Fight Club, Going Down? What was there to be angry about in the 90's? Your regularly scheduled episode of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood was delayed?

>>17911634 (OP)
The 90's looked peaceful on paper, but Gen X saw through the bullshit.

Corporate greed, dead-end jobs, a sanitized consumer culture pretending everything was fine. No real wars, but no real future either. Grunge and Fight Club screamed what everyone felt.

> This system's hollow, and we're fucked.

Turns out we were right.

>>17911643
>No real wars
>AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HELP MEEEEE IM NOT DYING IN A WAR AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DID MY ANCESTORS FIGHT FOR PEACE WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
Why was gen x like this?

>>17911643
>Corporate greed, dead-end jobs, a sanitized consumer culture pretending everything was fine.
And yet Xoomers became libtarded corporate drones. Makes you think

>>17911647
They grew up in the aftermath of Vietnam, Watergate, divorced parents, and stagflation. So even if they were very well off economically, they still felt the need to rebel against "Something"

>>17911634 (OP)
Labor is a really bad thing and blue collar manual labor especially is a really, really bad thing, physically crippling, brain damaging, unwanted social interactions and imposed social hierarchies are inherently humiliating and often violent, violating, abusive. Life was better in the 1990s than the 1300s but it wasn't good and it's still not good now. Relativity doesn't really matter that much (life is better now than 50 years ago!!) life satisfaction is more strictly binary, you either have a desirable life or you don't, life could get worse then you'd hate it more but that's not going to make someone enjoy an undesirable life. This reality is hell and God is a sadistic retard.

>>17911654
Zoomers grew up in the aftermath of the Afghan war, 9/11, divorced parents and stagflation. The economic situation is infinitely worse for them than it was for gen x, yet you dont see them acting like edgelords

Fight Club was mainly about material comfort without meaning. A lot of people in the 90s could probably relate to that after the Cold War ended and the global narrative of "good vs. evil" evaporated.

>>17911662
zoomzooms are too busy inventing new genders to get upset about anything

>>17911711
Thats a millennial thing though. Remember the i identify as an attack helicopter meme from 10 years ago?

>young men are aggressive and combative over nothing
Do zoomers even have testosterone?

society was melting down domestically under mass illegal immigration in places like california and new york which are the main outputs of leftist "culture" and since WAR HAWKS were in control at least internationally they just put all the blame on them when the real blame was actually their parents

>>17911634 (OP)
Gen X was based

>>17911634 (OP)
>Why was edgy and angsty media so popular in the 90's anyway?
I dunno why but I see a lot of 90s pop culture as like a synthesis of 70s/80s punk with 60s psychedelia (why grunge has a "wall of sound"). It wasn't either of those things, it was something new.

>>17911749
>Gen X was based
They're so grrrrrrr it's wonderful
https://youtu.be/UNo2-viKfW8

>>17911634 (OP)
>le rebel without a cause tehe :')
Goddamn I hate gen x and millennials

>>17911718
They can't top this:
https://youtu.be/WTw51Ynkn7A

>>17911711
Zoomers are chudded out

>>17911847
lol

>>17911634 (OP)
It was a reaction to the saccharine moralizing and overproduced slickness of the Regan years. You had a bunch of people who grew up being inundated with Reagan's eye roling religiosity and banal shit like Family Ties and soulless MTV music that they lashed out and embraced something that they felt was more authentic to their and general human experience compared to the dehumanizing and exceedingly fake 1980s which seemed to only care about imparting shitty moral lessons on the one hand and prioritizing the acquisition of wealth and money through any means necessary on the other.

>>17911634 (OP)
People subconciously knew that they were on the precipice of a terrible decline and collapse. They saw that there was no where up from where they stood. And that feeling hung around in the air like a blanket of balmy tropical air of most of the 90s before giving way to the artificially-spearheaded and inorganic Y2K cheer era.

>>17911634 (OP)
Because that was a generation that lived through the vast social breakdown that began in the late 60s. the country turned into Honduras after 1967 with urban decay, drug use, out of control crime, post-Vietnam disillusionment, de-industrialization, the Sexual Revolution, etc.

Gen X became depressed and cynical for a reason, they grew up when the era of postwar prosperity ended and everything turned into a burned out decaying shitheap.

>>17911717
that would be millennials making fun of the genders being made up. considering the people in positions of power and influence 15 years ago were overwhelmingly gen x, you can lay the pushing of that stuff firmly at their feet. millennials were weak-willed and overwhelming fell for it though, so they still have some blame laid at their feet

>>17911634 (OP)
born 1982 here. because it was boring (no major wars, decent economy, the guy in office was into rock and jazz) and when people get bored they start shit. Schopenhauer had a point.

>>17911717
>its a millennial thing
late millennial more so than early. most early millennials like myself had much more in common with Generation X than zoomers.

P amazing how as of 2025, the only good works ever produced by GenXfags are still Smells Like Teen Spirit, Burzum's eponymous album, Letter to a Christian Nation, Gurren Lagann (since the guys who made Evangelion and G Gundam were both literal Baby Boomers) and Mencius Moldbug's collected writings (since Nick Land is actually a Boomer, just like Obama).

>>17912642
If you were born in 1982, you're not Gen X, you're a Millennialfaggot from the literal worst generation ever.
t. Zoomer

>>17911850
I see them irl everyday. not entirely true.

>>17912683
yeah I hate you too. blah blah. you're probably not even white.

>>17911662
Being an edgelord is gay. I can see the bullshit and still have hope and smile.

>>17912036
>>17912198
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>>17912240
/thread

>>17912805
All generational d&c is kikespam

>>17911662
Well actually Gen Z DID try acting like edglords… at first. But then the government basically scared them back into acting straightedge. Remember 2019, 2020 and the era of the new emos with the white sheakers and black hoodies? Yeah that got put away since edginess was shown to be a hollow foncept altogether. All the edgy people gulped and did as they were told when the government started to mass arrest people for twitter posts.

>>17912240
Gen X became like that in what were objectively good times. When millennials were hitting those same ages it was either in Bush's second term or after the 2008 crash. Millennials got absolutely fucked by nothing other than being born at the wrong time.

>>17911634 (OP)
We saw the future and it was this. That kinda makes you uncomfy.

>>17912903
Why not both?

>>17912036
>MTV
>Soulless
?

>>17912036
>compared to the dehumanizing and exceedingly fake 1980s which seemed to only care about imparting shitty moral lessons on the one hand and prioritizing the acquisition of wealth and money through any means necessary on the other.
Oh yeah. There was a ton of that shit in the 1980s wasn't there. Faith No More had a song in 1987 called "We Care A Lot" that lampooned this stuff. Age-wise some of the band members were boomers at the tail end of that but generations can sort of phase into each other.
https://youtu.be/LQhX8PbNUWI

>>17912036
Why does this sound like an NPR monologue?

>>17915888
NPR monologues are all shitty, overproduced moral lessons. It's really bad.

Also thinking of the 1980s. Look at this, it's like crying wojack meme: the music video played unironically:
https://youtu.be/ypMnBuvP5kA

There was also Bruce Springsteen. Also Bono. (Both boomers.) There was a lot of over-the-top operatic emotionality, but I don't believe the stories. I hear them trying to bludgeon me over the head with them, but they were a bunch of theatre kids trying to sound authentic and from the streets and also, apparently, the mythical embodiment of America. Phooey.

>>17915883
Yeah I don't really understand people who idolize the '80s (well, they idolize a vision of the '80s that looks like Miami Vice). Kind of a shitty time period without the actual optimism and comfiness of the '90s and the soulful grittiness and griminess of the '70s. Maybe NYC but that's really it.

>>17916041
>Kind of a shitty time period without the actual optimism and comfiness of the '90s and
The last two years of the decade in 88-89 were much more like the 90s with good times and a considerable feel of optimism.

The 80s had a lot of renewed Cold War tension and fear of nuclear war, the vibe was a lot unlike the laid back, lazy 70s (at least after 72).

>>17916056
I don't think (just from looking and reading, I wasn't alive back then) the '70s was laid back and lazy, I think people had just given up. Gas is high, the cars suck, the cities are crumbling, crime is everywhere, your money doesn't buy you shit anymore, all the jobs are starting to go away, people seem to be going nuts with serial killers everywhere. Nothing to do but either slump and keep your head down until things get better or disappear into mindless hedonism to try and forget it.