Thread 17912114

What makes racism immoral? It's completely acceptable to discriminate based on other congenital characteristics like intelligence, place of origin, and physical attractiveness. So what's wrong with discriminating based on race?

>>17912114 (OP)
it isn’t immoral, we categorize all animals to have certain behaviors and traits, humans and human variants are no different

>>17912114 (OP)
I assume you're white
You don't like it when people are anti-white do you?
Guess what retard, that's racism.
Do you still think racism is okay?

>>17912136
I don't like it when people in historically white countries are anti white. I don't care if other places and peoples are anti white.

>>17912140
>racism is wrong but only by my personal standards
Not how it works

>>17912142
Why not?

>>17912145
Racism is discrimination based on your race. You don't get to decide what conditions this is done under. If some African dictator wanted to expel all the whites in their country for the sole reason of them being white, that would also be wrong. It's about stripping people of their own agency and reducing them down to just their race and race alone.

>>17912150
>You don't get to decide what conditions this is done under.
Why not?
>If some African dictator wanted to expel all the whites in their country for the sole reason of them being white, that would also be wrong
Well there are differences here. Whites came to Africa and civilized it. Blacks did not civilize America, we did.

>>17912136
Racism is good fucking idiot. If the Native Americans were more racist, they wouldn’t have been relegated to casinos.

>>17912114 (OP)
It's a touchy subject because racism often leads to gruesome physical violence which people generally try to avoid

>>17912157
>Whites came to Africa and civilized it. Blacks did not civilize America, we did.
Doesn't matter. You don't get to contrive these double standards. Unless you think it's okay to be anti-white by any other standard, but I suspect you don't.

>>17912171
>you think discrimination based on intelligence is okay, huh!?
>you think colleges should admit smart people?!?
>well what if they wanted to admit only dumb people, would that be okay, huh!?!?

>>17912176
Complete strawman, it's okay to discriminate based on if a given student meets testing standards for a given institution, that's something that happens every day. It's wrong to do this on the basis of race and race alone. It encourages prejudice, and we should evaluate people as individuals that don't have to carry racial baggage.

>>17912140
Why do you and other wignats whine about how South Africa, Zimbabwe, Angola, Haiti, Guinea-Bissau, Mozambique and in very recent times Sahelians forcefully expelled whites then?

Racism reinforces social inequalities, and is simply just a social construct.

>>17912182
Begging the question fallacy. Also it's not a strawman. It's actually a perfect metaphor. Why don't you apply the same logic to IQ? You wouldn't like it if universities discriminated in favor of dumb people, but you're fine with them discriminating for smart people. How is that not the same as white and black?

>>17912196
>Why don't you apply the same logic to IQ?
Because IQ is not a fucking videogame stat. Blacks with high IQ exist anon even if they're outliers. Should we reject those from a given institution just because of the average IQ of their peers? No, that's fucking stupid, you're fucking stupid.

>>17912114 (OP)
>It's completely acceptable to discriminate based on other congenital characteristics like intelligence, place of origin, and physical attractiveness.
It's illegal to do those and you can actually get yout pants sued off. Go outside for once

>>17912203
>can't understand a metaphor award

>>17912211
Verbal fallacy. Take your "metaphor" and shove it up your ass.

>>17912213
>strongest left wing argument

>>17912203
The idea is to force out and bar them so they can basically starve people of any real possible way to attain higher education and the benefits associated with it. Same way in the colonial era you had colonies banning native private ownership of real estate in the city, free movement of people, and had substantial spatial segregation. Several like Belium and Portugal actually forced several African students to stay in Europe as form of exile after they finished university because they viewed them as a threat to the order.

>>17912223
And South Africa forced the UK to exile Seretse Khama and his wife because of thwir marriage.

>>17912196
>You wouldn't like it if universities discriminated in favor of dumb people, but you're fine with them discriminating for smart people.
You never applied to any post-secondary institution. Either that or you did get an admission but turned it down because you actually took the works of some grifting retards online as an impressionable young man and thought getting a diploma/degree/trade cert was gay.

>>17912238
I got a STEM double major in three years at a top twenty university for my field lol. You can't actually engage with my argument so you've resorted to ad hominems.

>>17912140
You know people in other countries have racism within their own communities right? They're not this homogenous united monolith. If they were, their societies would probably be in better shape.

>>17912168
Casinos are the only good idea Injuns ever had. They were established long after the American Indian wars ended as well, so it's a completely separate topic. They offered a sort of legal grey area for gambling on their semi-sovereign land so long as gamblers paid a percentage to the house. This became the beginning of casinos, which were just legal gambling parlors on the outskirts of town.

>>17912254
And yet you still made a point as terminally stupid as:
>"You wouldn't like it if universities discriminated in favor of dumb people, but you're fine with them discriminating for smart people"

>>17912196
>Why don't you apply the same logic to IQ?
IQ isn't a shonen powerlevel system Manolo.

>>17912114 (OP)
It's impolite, Hence why anglos are the inventors and worldwide pushers of anti-racism and anti-sexism it's quite uncivilized and all must do as the anglo does.

>>17912281
And yet you still made a point as terminally stupid as:
>"You wouldn't like it if universities discriminated in favor of black people, but you're fine with them discriminating for white people"

>>17912284
t. Low IQ

>>17912157
>Whites came to Africa and civilized it
With our genocide campaigns?

>>17912315
No one in real life cares about it. Not in work, not in academia.

>>17912409
Maybe not IQ per se, but they absolutely care about intelligence. And IQ is a decent measure of intelligence.

>>17912414
>And IQ is a decent measure of intelligence.
Not always. If you were to try getting a job at NASA with your only qualification being "High IQ" you'd be laughed out the door. There are people with low IQ that have accomplished more in their lives than people with a high IQ. It's useful when examining broad population trends but less useful with regards to individuals

>>17912417
>he doesn't know the differences between intelligence, knowledge, skill, and accomplishment

>>17912157
>Whites came to Africa and civilized it.
You mean basically being trapped as permanent underclass and wageslaving with no hopes of accruing capital (forced labour and wage theft), dying in wars in foreign lands killing people you never knew existed, and dealing with a class of Euros who find it more expedient to cry about the mixing of races and "securing the future" and sending threats to the priest asking them to not abuse their workers. All while Indians, Arabs, Lebs and Jews buy up everything under their noses despite their privilege they'd rather larp as landed gentry or coast by on low effort failson jobs then I guess that's being civilized lol.

>>17912414
It's an approximation and many other forms of cognitive testing both in the broad and more specified context.

>>17912430
Unfinished sentence

I always like how racists, deep down, know that their stance is immoral and indefensible which is why they have to engage in so much whataboutism and mental gymnastics to justify it.

Looking into this, the two who conceptualized the idea of racism and spurred it on was an insane American who built Native American boarding schools and Trotsky. So the architects of the most hellish, soul-crushing institutions of the 20th century.

How is racism ultimately defeated, if one were to accept that it is a thing and bad? How does one "beat" an abstract concept?

>>17912206
Keep that mindset all you want. You'll lose

>>17912791
Lose to whom exactly? That's the mindset we used to have and the Jews continue to have, and they're currently winning.

>>17912136
NTA but no I don't actually care. I don't actually care about how others perceive me. that's a trait of homosexuals.

>>17912114 (OP)
>It's completely acceptable to discriminate based on other congenital characteristics like intelligence, place of origin, and physical attractiveness.
No, in most situations it's not. You might think it's ok to discriminate based on intelligence in hiring someone for a job but even there, while related there is a distinction between raw intelligence and aptitude for a specific job. Someone can be very smart in one area and an idiot in another, like you wouldn't hire an engineer to teach history even if they're presumably smart.

>>17912517
>the two who conceptualized the idea of racism and spurred it on was an insane American who built Native American boarding schools and Trotsky.
The fuck you saying?

>>17912150
yeah but one is allowed the other is not. why's that, rabbi?

>>17912210
>physical attractiveness
this is only allowed if you're female, if you're male and tell some landwhale to lose weight you can lose your job. if a woman calls you a midget society just allows it and she suffers no repercussions.

>>17912810
>I don't actually care about how others perceive me.
Because you have nothing to lose

>>17912305
what about Anglo misogynists like me?

>>17912814
What racist thinks that race is literally the only characteristic that should ever be considered? If you're hiring an engineer it's perfectly reasonable to only want to hire someone of above-average intelligence. They still need credentials. So why is it wrong to only want to hire a white person for a job?

>>17912826
do you have a point to make or something?

>>17912114 (OP)
>What makes racism immoral?

With a few *exceptions it's just arbitrary anecdotal self-inflicted gobble-de-gook; you have a couple bad experiences with an off-colour race and end up stratifying them to the point you make the exception the reality. Racism is immoral because it dehumanizes people and lowers human capital for (*typically) fake reasons.

*Gypsies, Aboriginals, East-Indians, certain African ethnicities. The exceptions make the rule, but there are exceptions to Racism.

>>17912845
It's atill pretty fucked up to do it to those people in the * group and just makes you look pretty sociopathic. Especially with the type of shit people get away with abusing socially okay targets or actually harming them through deliberate means.

In Canada one Native woman was dying and the nursing staff just taunted her on cam. In the UK people have actually died from being denied key medication for diseases because they didn't take the sufferer seriously until they died.

>>17912910
By being denied I mean having a Sickle Cell Disease flare up and the staff basically brushing her off.

>>17912845
>lowers human capital
What exactly do you mean by this? There's no purpose in increasing the GDP or whatever for a country when in doing so the country loses its identity.

>>17912910
Therefore we should destroy our ethnic solidarity and open our society to aliens?

>>17912916
>the country loses its identity.
That's not really a thing outside of places with places with extremely fucked up labour policies in the past like Angola, South Africa, various parts of central America.

>>17912920
It's happening in America right now.

>>17912922
Not even close.
>>17912917
If not being a psychopath is "destroying" ethnic solidarity then fuck solidarity.

>>17912136
I dont like that attractive women have a halo effect, should I also be against attractive women?

>>17912136
I dont like when someone on another team scores a goal against me, should I stop scoring goals on them?

>>17912931
>Not even close
People nowadays don't even believe that an American ethnicity exists. Let me ask you; what is an American?
>If not being a psychopath is "destroying" ethnic solidarity then fuck solidarity
>psychopathy is when you believe what your ancestors did for centuries

>>17912203
Let's try a thought experiment: imagine certain genes were identified that were responsible for low IQ and high aggression/criminality. A cheap and quick test is developed to identify these genes.

The majority of those with these genes exhibited these traits, but not all the carriers of these genes would express these behaviors. For whatever reason, a few of the carriers seem to be an exception to the rule. However, over time their children tend to regress to the mean and display these negative traits.

Would it be wrong to bar those who carried those genes from immigrating to your country?

>>17912916
I don't think that's what he meant by "human capital"

>>17913001
What did he mean then?

>>17912996
>Would it be wrong to bar those who carried those genes from immigrating to your country?
If the justification for that law was based off the extremely shitty science then whoever suggested it would be laughed out of the capital. The shit you said makes no sense, you legit don't know what regression to the mean even means at all. People get publicly shamed for using AI hallucinate data, you think extremely bad science would be better?

>>17913018
Is it wrong to bar non-whites from immigrating to white countries?

>>17913025
Is it wrong to totally ignore a post calling out your grade 11 highschool takes?

>>17913027
I'm not him. Answer the question. Is it wrong, and if so why?

>>17913027
>>17913032
>grade 11

Don't engage. It's a C*nadian.

>>17912916
>>17913001

Anon you're quoting.
Racism hedges people into designated classes in the exact same way communism did. It removes organic competition and prevents people from growing into their 'earnest selves' and degrades them on the basis of how well they can act like a stereotype. "Most" anyone can be anything. This isn't about "gpd", racism creates social permission for people to act like niggers.

>>17912916
>or whatever for a country when in doing so the country loses its identity.

A country *can* absolutely lose its' identity due to demographic shifts, but it can lose it way faster due to technological advances, or it can slip out of its' metaphorical hands like sand if it doesn't consciously preserve it. People blame the "crash out" of modern American men, they like to blame minorities, pornography, women's rights, but nobody should expect anything from people who've been essentially treated as "outdoor dogs" for 20 years. The cultural identities of people are not only NOT rigid, but they're in constant competition with one another for the hearts and minds of people.
Furthermore, a countries identity shouldn't be too rigid, it should be almost a semi-permeable membrane; able to adopt and adapt to change under it's own terms when it comes to it, but still able to "bounce off" bad ideas. I hear people all the time, "Japan Japan Japan Japan", but Japan is a great example because they've functionally reset their cultural identity twice in the past few hundred years, to their own benefit, by plagiarizing other countries cultural development

>>17913047
>Racism hedges people into designated classes in the exact same way communism did.
I'm a white nationalist anon. I don't believe we should have a racial caste system, I believe we should have one race and that's it. Anyways if your point is correct, then why was America far more prosperous and innovative on a relative scale (to the rest of the world) when it was extremely racist?
As for the identity question, I suppose we just have to agree to disagree. I think that America should preserve its historical identity as a white country and you don't value that at all. There's really no way to bridge that gap.

>>17912938
An American is any white person who identifies ourLord and Savior, Christ, and who devotes himself to the furtherance of the Christian race

>>17913054
So Thomas Jefferson wasn't an American?

>>17913032
No state bars it. Why would they? Hyper restrictive immigration criteria always backfires because no one wants to deal with over the top expensive and time wasting procedures with no guarantee of a yes/no. It's why people who do semi-skilled or skilled workers often bail Japan or don't go for full citizenship.

>>17913060
>Why would they?
I don't know, why did we do it during our ascendancy to being the primary superpower in the world?

>>17913050
>why was America far more prosperous and innovative on a relative scale (to the rest of the world) when it was extremely racist?
Rest of the world got fucked by two world wars. The second they recovered all the accrued advantage became null and the country failed to adapt.

>>17913061
Antagozing people led to China making a massive jump in acquiring and researching nuclear weaponry. Turns out baaically treated a Chinese scientist as a criminal based on no hard evidence and detaining him under house arrest for several years is gonna make a man bitter.

>>17913062
>the country failed to adapt
...while implementing your preferred immigration policy.

>>17913064
And therefore White countries should stop being White? What the fuck are we even talking about at this point.

>>17913009
basically, he meant the value of persons, not GDP. which isn't necessarily quantifiable.

Racism is bad in the same way violence is bad. Ideally no one would be violent, but if someone wields violence against you then it is necessary to wield it against them. In our current society, racism is wielded against whites and whites must stop taking it sitting down.

>>17912914
Why is Sickle Cell so common in minorities but nearly absent in whites?

>>17912819
Racist is a word commonly attributed to Leon Trotsky but im unclear on its veracity.

>>17912114 (OP)
>It's completely acceptable to discriminate based on other congenital characteristics like intelligence, place of origin, and physical attractiveness.
umm, that's not socially acceptable. Go to a social event and loudly inform an unattractive person that you consider them to be so, or the first time you meet a person with a different accent to you immediately mock their accent. See how well it goes

>>17912452
Racists like racism because it is immoral. They are just angry about being losers so they want others to fear them to reduce their inferiority complex, they are like serial killers but without guts to actually kill someone

>>17912114 (OP)
got damn pajeets are flooding /pol/ with their stupid shit

>>17912452
>>17913608
its really not immoral at all. In fact I would say anti-racists have to engage in all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify why its ok to discriminate for certain aspects and not others.

For example, is ok for an employer to exclusively hire attractive people? Then why isn't it ok for an employer to exclusively hire white people? Well if it isn't ok, then why is it morally acceptable as an individually to exclusively date or have sex with attractive people? Are you obligated to have sex with ugly fat women in the interest of equality and fairness based entirely on supposedly arbitrary traits?

>>17913671
>racism is when someone isn't attractive
pol isn't sending their best

>>17913693
So you have no real argument as to why its sometimes acceptable to discriminate except in the case of race for some reason. Either its all ok or none of it is ok but the reality you don't think none of it is ok.

>>17913698
When you don't want to fuck someone cos they are ugly then it's not racism and it's good
When you don't want to fuck someone from a diffrent race because you've been deceived into thinking that humans from other races are less inteligent, more violent or evil, then it is racism and it's evil

>>17912452
>>17913608
People like you were screeching "RACIST" at families who informed the police their daughter was on heroin and being repeatedly raped, just because they described the appearance of the perpetrators as "asian".

You were screeching "ANTISEMITE" when people were calling out Epstein and Weinstein and all the other -steins and -bergs, before the "conspiracy theorists" here were fully redeemed.

When we point to genetics and statistics you cry about "racism", even if we're just sticking to the facts and trip over yourself to cancel us and censor the data and research.

You've worn out the definition of "racist", it just doesn't have that same sting anymore. While white people fret over morality "oh no, was I being a horrible person, I never realized, what can I do to make amends" and heap ever more special privileges and entitlements upon you you stand there scowling at them "that's right, systemic racism is why I'm a loser, pay me".

>>17913719
>strawman epsten vaccine jews
yawn

>>17913722
>>17913725
>that's just a conspiracy you stupid chud nazi
but Epstein literally rape kids and you people literally defended him, that's exactly what happened

I have become a hated enemy and you now want to punch me, just for stating facts. And you don't give a shit about these children being raped just because they are white. Yet we are "immoral".

>>17913739
But you people are literally defending Epstein and not releasing his files. Pedophilia and sex trafficking is suddenly okay to you because trump is on the list and that's only okay because he's white.
That's the way your racism works, all crimes are forgiven if the person is white.

>>17913739
You are not an enemy, you're impotent, inadequate, powerless. And deep down you know it

>>17913743
Have you been living under a rock? Everyone is turning on Trump for not releasing the Epstein files.

It's generally immoral to hate or feel enmity towards people based just on their ethnic or racial ancestry because it's immoral to cause trouble and stoke conflict

however in some situations it might be warranted and justified. For example if you were in a war where another racial or ethnic group attacked you then it would make sense to feel enmity towards that group in the same way it would make sense to feel enmity towards a nation that attacked you.
So this kind of hatred-based racism might be justified and sensible and rational depending on the circumstance.


However what definitely isn't immoral is love-based racism, i.e. loving people based on their racial or ethnic ancestry, since loving people based on their racial or ethnic ancestry is just the same an example of loving people based on their ancestry in general e.g. loving your relatives more than strangers, which everyone acknowledges as good, sensible , rational and moral and your race or ethnic group is just your extended family anyway, in the same way that your species is your extended family relative to other species.

>>17912157
Sorry Paco, but your Aztec ancestors were busy shining the cocks of their Spanish masters ( and even before that, they were busy shining Moor cock )

>>17912114 (OP)
It’s just a logical fallacy. All humans are the same. Thinking that one group is better than another is just poor thinking.

>>17912114 (OP)
>It's completely acceptable to discriminate based on other congenital characteristics like intelligence, place of origin, and physical attractiveness
They aren't?
>People do it anyways
So is racism

>>17913709
>the only reason one could possible be racist is because they are decieved
Ok so if I exclusively fuck Asians am I racist or is it only racist when I refuse to fuck niggers?

>>17913709
What if race correlates to attractiveness as well? Have you considered that light skin is more attractive than dark skin? Is that racist discrimination or morally good normal discrimination?

>>17913838
So what about hating people based on the the behavior of their racial ancestry towards your racial ancestry?

tldr for your smol brain, if you base your thoughts or decisions on delusions of superiority of one race and the inferiority of other then it's racist, otherwise it's not

>>17913854
>they aren't?
Socially its fully acceptable to call people low IQ as an insult to belittle them. Many colleges and employers will discriminate based on IQ and its fully legally supported. Socially, its perfectly acceptable to hate Russians for invading Ukraine. Women can publicly state they won't date men under 6ft and they will get no push back. Same for a man who won't date fat bitches.
>>17914008
>then its racist
I think you're so retarded you believe the term racist and evil/immoral are synonyms. In any case why is it moral to make decisions based on delusions of intellectualism and the inferiority of others intellect?

>>17914018
Because inteligence is diffrent for each human? If your mom calls you a failure for not having a job then she isn't "anit-white" she just hates you

>>17912206
I wonder what napoleon would think about getting non white in the US of A for being italian

>>17914027
>Because inteligence is diffrent for each human?
So is race you dumb fucking double digit IQ retard.

>>17914052
nope

>>17914101
>race is not different for each human
Full retard moment.

>>17914146
There is no scientific proof that different races have different levels of intelligence, i'm sorry that you were lied to and brainwashed

>>17913852
>All humans are the same
Erm... No

>>17914171
There's a lot of proof actually.

>>17914182
nope

>>17912114 (OP)
it caused the heckin lolocaust mmmkay chud?

>>17913709
>it's bad because... IT JUST IS OKAY!

>>17914171
It's called a metaphor. Different people have different intelligences, and this is beyond their control. Different people have different races, and that is beyond their control. Why is it okay to discriminate based on the former and not the latter?

>>17914184
Yup, you're one example.

>>17914008
So if I don't think my race is superior but just like it more for the sake of cultural and ancestral preservation and unity it's fine to be racist?

>>17913838
Hitler didn't feel hatred based on race even though he was absolutely racist. So was he fine?

>>17912933
You should go through puberty already and accept that all women are whores.

>>17912414
Is there a single legal requirement in employment or education that requires you to submit an IQ score? It's literally never applied in real life yet you faggots treat it like the gospel.

>>17913739
>And you don't give a shit about these children being raped just because they are white
That sounds racist. Sounds like you have a problem with being singled out for being White, AKA racism.

But you're a mentally insane /pol/tranny so you will never call it that. Because then you'd have to admit racism is bad.

>>17914341
If you knew anything about anything you'd know that IQ tests are banned in employment because blacks score lower than whites. But proxies for IQ are used all the time.

>>17914350
They aren't banned, retard. They also arent used because ones aptitude should be measured in direct relation to the skills required and work demanded. IQ is literally meaningless to an employer. Certifications or educational background is all they require for specific jobs.

>>17914297
cos race affects your appearance while intelligence affects your actions
>>17914311
nope, it's never right to hate someone based on their appearance and hating others have nothing to do with cultural and ancestral preservation

>>17914362
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.
>IQ is meaningless to an employer
Imagine thinking this

>>17913739
The only people who defend Epstein are White Republicans and White right wingers. Because White people fuck children.

>>17914364
>race affects your appearance while intelligence affects your actions
Race definitely affects your actions. Look at voting patterns of different minorities. Every non-white racial group votes Democrat. What's more, say in America, non-whites will be inherently alienated by our history and some degree of contempt or resentment will inherently come with that.
>it's never right to hate
So if I don't hate minorities but discriminate against them for the sake of preserving white identity it's fine?

>>17914372
>https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Sexual_Abuse_FY21.pdf
>57% of sexual abuse offenders were White
Oops. No overrepresentation here.

>>17914375
>Race definitely affects your actions
nope
and yes, if you discriminate innocent people becasue you don't like their apperance or language then yeah it's pretty evil

>>17914383
>nope
I literally just gave an example where it does. Different races have different cultures. If you prefer your culture to theirs it's fair to keep your establishment for your group only. Is it invalid to want to preserve your culture?

>>17914388
culture is something you grow into, you are not born with it, race doesn't affect your actions or thoughts

>>17914375
>let me tell you who you are and how you vote
Mentally insane. You're the type of freak that murders his neighbors because the voices told him to.

Racism
>The belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others.
>A belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.
>Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race or ethnicity over another.

No one denies Ethiopians are genetically inclined towards long distance running, they spent 10000s of years largely separate and apart from other races evolving in a different direction, likely due to persistence hunting being the main source of calories in their environment. It is the theory of evolution, and it affects cognitive as well as physical abilities.

I am quite prepared to not judge people by race out of principle, after all many black people more intelligent than the average white person and race is irrelevant if you have information about the individual. However I am not prepared to deny facts and they absolutely refuse to discuss it, preferring to censor and "cancel" anyone and anything who touches it with a 50 foot pole. Instead we are forced to attend mandatory "critical race theory workshops" and the like in fortune 500 companies, colleges and government departments across America where we are told black underachievement is 100% due "generational trauma", "systemic racism", "white privilege" and so on. Yet if you compare African Americans with say east asians from poorer countries, it more or less completely disproves this.

They fear if this fact got out it would lead to racial discrimination, yet they are quick to use DEI to drag down the "privileged" white people they blame for their underachievement. It is probably better society digest this reality while we are still prosperous and stable.

>>17914390
Maybe not on its own, but to preserve your culture the only reasonable way to actually do it is to discriminate based on race. How exactly do you propose to preserve white culture while not preserving white people?
>>17914394
Are you denying the fact that minorities overwhelmingly vote democrat?

>>17914375
The majority of Hispanics voted for Trump. Congrats fag, you just exhibited your sheltered poltard understanding of real life.

>>17914421
>Are you denying the fact that minorities overwhelmingly vote democrat
Yes. Your next cope is to move the goalpost or change the subject entirely because it doesn't fit your video game worldview where everyone is an NPC born with hard coded stats.

>>17914426
>The majority of Hispanics voted for Trump
Wrong actually, it was just close to 50/50. Also Hispanic Republicans are significantly more left wing than White Republicans.

>>17914434
Your own data shows that if only Hispanics voted Kamala would've won lol. Now post the black and Asian numbers. I also notice you didn't answer my question about culture.

>>17914441
>left wing Republicans
Kek

>>17914443
>I also notice you didn't answer my question about culture.
Because it's nonsense. Diaspora aren't of a separate culture. If they were born and raised in the US they are deracinated and Americanized. You can see this when they travel abroad. Everyone immediately knows they're from America.

>>17914421
>but to preserve your culture the only reasonable way to actually do it is to discriminate based on race
how being an asshole who hurts innocent people helps preserving your culture, that doesn't make any sense
>>17914411
there is no proof that race affects inteligence, relying on "muh evolution" don't make any sense either because humans stopped evolving the natural way the moment they developed technology

>>17914314
>Hitler didn't feel hatred based on race
I seem to recall some mein kampf quotes that indicate otherwise.

but even if that were true then yes hitler would be bad because he was a trouble-maker who stoked and brought about conflict.

>>17914005
that might well be justified and rational depending on the situation , for the same reason as the example given in >>17913838 for example imagine a racial or national war where one group had been attacking your group for a long time

>>17914446
I can tell you're a leftist because you don't understand that you can be a centrist Republican lol.

>>17914456
>youre a leftist because you didagree with me
I love when you inadvertently admit that you believe right wing politics is about hating non-Whites.

>>17914447
>they are deracinated and Americanized
Yes, but in doing so the American identity starts losing the particularistic characteristics it used to had. At this point "American identity" is meaningless.
>knows they're from America
This is the shallowest aspect of culture you could possibly imagine.

>>17914456
How are Hispanic Republicans "centrist"? They aren't. You just automatically felt the need to drive a wedge where there wasn't one because you hate brown people. The majority of the ice agents carrying out raids in places like California are all Hispanics from Texas, Arkansas, Arizona etc. They are farther right than the average White couch potato retard who gobbles up fox news.

>>17914459
It's not about hating non-whites, but it is about caring primarily for your own group. I don't know why you think that's an own. That's literally what nationalism is.

>>17914446
>left wing republicans
Yes

>>17912114 (OP)
We belong to the human race. Discriminating based on race creates bad energy and makes people not wanna have anything to do with you. The only people that are racist are people who can't accept themselves fully, because every other person or human is a reflection of you. No matter who they are. We're all just different versions of each other. Our borderlines that divide us are invisible. They don't really exist. We create them in our mind. Racism is fearbased. It's oh that person looks different, I don't understand and we fear what we don't understand. We don't understand how they could be darker or lighter than us so we fear them. It's a primal instinct. That's why evolved, enlightened people aren't racist. We're all one. We're the human race, no matter what hue or shade we are. That black or asian or jewish person you don't like could be your mother or your father or your child or parent. Take it from me, I grew up in a house with a white mom and black dad and a mixed sister. Some of us have mixed siblings or different races in our immediate family so racism will never be something we take serious in todays day an age. People who or are racist are usually miserable, bitter, losers who are unhappy with themselves.

>>17914467
Hispanics don't want to preserve real American identity, they want to pull the ladder up behind them.

>>17914473
>creates bad energy
>we are all one
>mixed race mutt
Opinion dismissed

>>17914470
NTA, but what exactly does the pic you posted mean? I've seen it before but never paid it any mind, i click to enlarge and see no text labels outside Conservatives and Liberals

>>17914448
>hurts innocent people
So "hurting innocent people" is when you refuse to gift away your national legacy to the entire world? My ancestors built America, I deserve its prosperity more than others.

>>17914481
you gets no pussy

>>17914349
>muh /pol/
Its so funny watching you discord trannies obsess over /pol/ when in reality we all know you are here to shill communism and liberalism.

>>17914484
Conservatives care more about people that are more like them. Liberals care more about people that are less like them.

>>17914394
Bro is so retarded he doesn't realize politicians explicitly run campaigns based entirely on trying to win voting blocks consisting mostly of race, sex and age.

Speaking of which, why is it ok to discriminate based on age?

>>17914492
liberalism will win. Muh yt pride, muh jesus, muh dark web, muh guns. Say goodbye to all of it.

>>17914491
See how the Amerimutt sputters out of control, hurling empty insults like "incel" when challenged. No, we are not one. My people have conquered the world and invented a new one through sheer will. Faustian man marches on.

>>17914492
>NO DONT CALL ME POL
>calls everyone who disagrees with him a leftistniggerjewtranny
/pol/tranny cope

>>17914500
Gen Z White men are the most right wing demographic in America.

>>17914500
Liberalism already won. Now its failing. Such is life on earth. Everything dies and fades to dust. You are currently witnessing liberalism die but are coping about it. Do you genuinely believe that this is it? For now until the infinite future liberalism will be the only form of concept and policy governing humans until our extinction?

>>17914492
>liberalism is bad because I'm not allowed to rape and kill your children for not being White
Does that line ever work on normal people who work for a living and hold healthy social relationships?

>>17914508
>calls everyone who disagrees with him a /pol/
>point this out
HAHAHAHAHA I got you you're a /pol/ack and also that bad for some reason again because it just is ok

Man, if you keep providing me with such a great time I may never go back.

>>17914529
>liberalism is good because I'm allowed to rape and kill white children for being white
Do you genuinely believe that humanity is over and that liberalism is the future forever until the end of humanity?

>>17914529
All we want to do is create our own spaces anon. Rape is never okay. And if they don't want to die they can just deport themselves or cooperate when we do.

>>17914484
That pic comes this study https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12227-0
From it "we assessed the heatmaps generated by participants’ clicks on the rung they felt best represented the extent of their moral circle", memaning the further out circle you choose the broader will be the category of subjects worthy moral consideration
it goes from "I just consider my immediate family when doing more consideration" through "all the people in my country" to "I also consider animals as worthy moral consideration"(if you think it's wrong to torture a puppy just for fun you are here) to "All living things in the universe" to "All things in the universe"
Midwits just looked at the pic and decided that meant it measured how much you care about it category in relation to others

>>17914598
It still makes an extremely important point though. Liberals view the entire world as their people. Conservatives view their people as their people.

>>17914492
How long were you thinking about trannies before you made this post?

>>17914612
About two seconds after reading his post calling me a tranny.

How often do you read a post on this board and start thinking about /pol/ and the trauma they inflicted on you by calling you a man?

>>17914598
Its really funny you keep going with this narrative even after the people who made the study clarified that it is in fact exactly as it seems. Leftists are more concerned about not offending a random nigger than they are protecting their brother when said nigger got offended.

>>17914611
No it doesn't, it's about how broad is the range of subjects for moral consideration
It says nothing about who each group considers to be "their people"
Also conservatives clustered among "extended family" and "close friend" as the limits of their moral consideration in the graph, far narrower than the nation or "my people" category you are trying to infer

>>17914611
the original point is actually the point. They were given specifically given a set number of points they could allocate. Hence its a heat map. If the leftist cope about this study were true the heat map would make no sense at all.

>>17914641
Yes it is lol. They were literally given a limited amount of "care points" to give to various things they care about.

Why do you think its a heat map? How do you think heat maps represent data and why do you think there are no marks for liberals stretching all the from the center to the edge if it was the case that leftists chose caring about everything.

>>17914639
>ignore what the study says the graph is about and basic graph interpretation

>>17914649
> They were literally given a limited amount of "care points"
that is another experiment and is represented represented by another graph, you didn't read the study and are only going by what other midwits said about it

>>17914651
>ignore what the research paper actually says and what the researches actually said about the study because that very obviously and easily observable reality makes me look bad

>>17914665
>this is another experiment
its not. You're resorting to lying at this point.

its literally observable reality as well. Every time a white kid is killed by a nigger the parents forgive the killer publicly and apologize, the gf say she doesn't want to report the crime because of racism ect ect.

Look at this thread itself in which you're attempting to argue that the concept of caring about your kin over foreign racial groups is immoral LMFAO.

>>17914171
There absolutely is. There's ongoing debate on how much of the gaps is genetic but no one denies the gaps exist.

>>17914362
IQ is not used for employment for 2 reasons.

1. Because blacks score so low, using IQ tests for employment was deemed to violate the civil rights act for the disparate impact.
2. Minimum wage has destroyed on-the-job training so now no employer cares if you're capable of learning to do a job, they only care if you already know how to do it.

You will never have an ethnostate whtoid

>>17914745
It's inevitable. Young white men are sprinting to the right.

>>17914448
>humans stopped evolving the natural way the moment they developed technology
This is not true, we are constantly under selective pressure.

>>17914749
Yawn

>>17914500
The second amendment is a liberal policy retard.

>>17914755
It's true. The average zoomer watches Nick Fuentes and Hitler edits on tiktok now.

>>17912810
>I don't actually care about how others perceive me
you're an underage faggot, of course you don't care. but when those prejudices start getting in the way of a job, a mortgage, etc. you will soon start to care

>>17914773
>it's good that our regime destroys anyone with any dissent because racism is le heckin bad or something

>>17914765
Lol it's a shame u have to make a great white hope propaganda using a Latinx gay streamer and zoomers like they'll ever do anything about blacks

>>17914776
>literacy level: amerilard

>>17914793
Fuentes won't be able to control what he's unleashing. You have no idea what's coming.

>>17914639
>right wing is when you hate niggers
Very good, keep talking.

>>17914820
Yes.

>>17913055
The founders were more British than American at this point.
>>17914824
>posts a bunch of left wingers
amerilard are embarrassing

>>17914824
These retards killed 40 million other whites and their whore wives fucked victorious black american soldiers before their corpses even got cold. Kek, what are you trying to prove

>>17914832
>the Nazis were left wing
>>17914833
Mutt's law
The absolute state of /his/

>>17914835
>National socialists weren't left wing because...uh....they were....racist?
>this doesn't apply to the Soviet union or other communists who were equally as racialist in thought though
Holy fucking shit genocide all amerimutts

>>17914839
The Soviets were not equally as racialist. And the Chinese are definitely right wing, arguably fascist.

>>17912316
Genocide accomplishes quite a bit, actually

>>17914799
American message board

>>17914548
Rape is actually tolerable in *some* cases, c'mon.

>>17915257
And what are those cases?

>>17912176
The only stupid people who even apply for college are nepo babies whose families try to buy their way in and rush them through it.

>>17915268
From a utilitarian perspective, whenever the rapist gets more pleasure out of it than the rapee gets pain.

>>17915372
>from a utilitarian perspective

>>17912452
How is racism immoral?
Nobody in this thread explained it so far.

>>17912417
Would you rather your child to have IQ of 120 or 80?

>>17912845
Calling someone an asshole doesn't dehumanize them? Is cursing also immoral?

>>17913064
Chinese Exclusion Act wad passed in 1860s anon.
Pretty sure they got nukes a bit later than that

>>17912136
spbp
OPs argument completely destroyed in a single instant

>>17914171
Why do blacks have lower IQ than whites in every multiracial country in the world?

>>17916510
If IQ is an innate and fixed number then why is black IQ going up?

>>17912114 (OP)
If you're a member of the majority ethnic population, racism is good because it's a gatekeeping process.
If you're a member of the minority population, racism is bad because you want access to the resources of those countries.
The loudest and harshest critics of racism are always jewish because they stand the most to gain from incorporating themselves into foreign nations.

>>17916511
It isn't. A paper from 2021 reported the gap at ~1 SD which is the same as it has been since IQ testing was first introduced during WWI

>>17916533
>The loudest and harshest critics of racism are always jewish because they stand the most to gain from incorporating themselves into foreign nations.
This post started out so well, but you had to just derail and undermine your own point by seething about "muh jooooos" for the 10th time today
Protip: Jews themselves are the gatekeeping racists, and you are one of the losers, and your attitude proves this.

>>17916536
>"A paper from 2021 "
lmao sure thing retard
> reported the gap at ~1 SD which is the same as it has been since IQ testing was first introduced during WWI
Standard deviation, from the means, which is always affixed to 100. You don't even understand how IQ works

>>17916536
1 SD is 15 points.

>which is the same as it has been since IQ testing was first introduced during WWI
The scores attached to the groups changed.

>>17916539
>Jews themselves are the gatekeeping racists
Have you ever taken the time to look at who wrote the poem on the bottom of the Statue of Liberty?
We're talking about a nationless people, here. They have a vested interest in making sure that they are accepted in foreign nations.

>>17915254
It doesn't. All it does is create suffering and leads to a society where pretty much in it becomes fucked up on both sides.

>>17916545
And yet according to you they run the banks, the media, and the worlds governments. You can't call yourself the master race under these conditions. You are the losers here anon.

>>17916545
>Have you ever taken the time to look at who wrote the poem on the bottom of the Statue of Liberty?
Who gives a shit? A Jew also wrote the song "God Bless America" which is one of the most popular patriotic songs of all time. You retards will always find something to blame Jews on

>>17916511
It's astonishing that people like you still exist. IQ is a quantitative trait influenced by many genes. The gap in IQ between races being largely genetic does not mean that it is an innate, fixed value.

>>17916559
That's really cool but you think there was significant evolutionary divergence between blacks and non-blacks over the course of around 50,000 years and selected purely for IQ which is completely asinine, you then believe this miraculously rapid evolution somehow slowed down after the 18th century. Nothing about race realism makes sense under real scrutiny. I bet you still have 19th century diagrams of skull shapes saved to your computer.

>>17916550
>And yet according to you they run the banks, the media, and the worlds governments
Who do you think Epstein was? Why do you think he had the backing of a jewish supremacist group of billionaires, many who resided in hollywood and finance?
You don't need to be a white supremacist to recognize these things.

>>17916567
>significant evolutionary divergence between blacks and non-blacks over the course of around 50,000 years and selected purely for IQ which is completely asinine
What? The divergence between races was a lot more than IQ. Skin color, height, sickle cell, eye color, nose shape, lactose tolerance, etc. There are tons of traits that vary between races on a genetic level.
>you then believe this miraculously rapid evolution
How is it miraculously rapid? Do you believe the divergence of all those other traits was miraculous too?

>>17912114 (OP)
Racism is not a robust social concept. It's an ad hoc ideological delineator used to isolate pro-white positions on any given subject in order to void them. This only works under an anti-white totalitarian regime, without which words like racism would never even be used.

>>17916584
>Skin color, height, sickle cell, eye color, nose shape, lactose tolerance, etc.
Those are actually extremely minute changes though. They look "substantial" but in reality it's just a small change, like some lines of code.

>>17914448
>there is no proof that race affects inteligence
But I literally posted proof and here's more. If you want an in-depth discussion of the scientific evidence we could have gone to /sci/ years ago, until people like you cried to the mods and started getting those threads banned.

>relying on "muh evolution" don't make any sense either because humans stopped evolving the natural way the moment they developed technology
Did humans stop "evolving the natural way" with stone tools and fire? The brutal forces of natural selection ceased way back then? We are talking about hunter gatherers for much of this period as well, the most significant move out of Africa into vastly new environments 70000 to 50000 years ago.

As I said
>they absolutely refuse to discuss it, preferring to censor and "cancel" anyone and anything who touches it with a 50 foot pole

This is another method of avoiding debate, to drop some quippy yet spurious argument that would be ok for facebook or twitter or would be praised by r*dditors where people base their judgment on "what would people think if I had this opinion" and leave it at that. Because your influence over society is so strong you don't need to actually prove your point and I think deep down you know you can't anyway.

>>17916584
>Skin color, height, sickle cell, eye color, nose shape, lactose tolerance, etc.
Superficial differences do not imply evolutionary divergence though, we already know that these traits are far more malleable, because otherwise you would look identical to your father, but you don't, you might share some of his features but you will never be an exact clone of him.

>>17916609
Are you suggesting that because intelligence has more genes contributing to it than something like eye color, that that makes it take longer to diverge between populations? As opposed to the rate of change on quantitative traits being determined by selective pressure?

>>17912114 (OP)

John 3:16, Gal. 3:28.

>>17916621
>But I literally posted proof
Proof by Example fallacy. And said example is an unsourced graph with no clear documentation of its methods. You were probably banned from /sci/ because you're an unscientific retard.

>>17916623
>intelligence has more genes contributing to it
That hasn't even been set in stone though. We can't even firmly determine it within uniform populations alongside the many differences even between just two higher than average IQ guys.

>>17916622
You don't have his intelligence either. IQ normally varies about 6 points in either direction from the mean of the parents.

>>17916621
>, the most significant move out of Africa into vastly new environments 70000 to 50000 years ago.
You don't even understand human migration out of Africa. It came in multiple waves, and some populations even migrated back into Africa. The Saharan Green Period was as recent as 5,000 years ago, and there were many groups migrating between the Sahara at that time. Humans are highly transient animals, we always have been.

>>17916629
Then please clarify your point.

>>17912114 (OP)
>So what's wrong with discriminating based on race?
Multi-ethnic societies cannot survive without making concessions. One of these concessions includes the lie that everybody is the same, or near-same, and so they deserve to be treated equally.
Importing the third world to work in the mines doesn't work if the predominant racial demographic in the country hates them. This is the purpose of proliferating propaganda that very specifically convinces citizens of any given society that racism is baseless, unfounded, superstitious, and immoral.

>>17916656
Racism is good unless it's happening to your race, then it's bad! You will call out anti-white pro-DEI Liberals but you will never, ever ever denounce Jim Crow laws or stop calling black people niggers

>>17914839
how about we genocide you?

>>17916666
I think racism is bad when it's the law, like slavery, or Jim Crow, or affirmative action. I think it's good when it's between private individuals.

>>17916666
I don't call black people niggers. I am very considerate. That is why I call them basketball americans.

>>17914799
your country was built to suck government cock, Hans

>>17914773
I'm 43. no, really.

>>17916626
>>17914411 literally explains verbatim what they did using data on the internet which was still easily accessible last time I checked, unless you people have managed to censor it too. It demonstrates the frequency of genes associated with intelligence are almost unilaterally more likely and up to 4000% more likely among white people, which is pretty clear evidence of genetic differences related to intelligence corroborating everything else.

>>17916621 's source can be found easily using the image search feature, you must be familiar with the triangle button, but you will notice below "Report post" is "Image search >>"

It shows persistent differences in intelligence, that a significant number of Europeans are above 1 standard deviation in intelligence whereas only a handful of Africans are. This trend is seen almost everywhere. You will note that although minority scores rose after civil rights they plateau'd in the 90s with some like east asians exceeding white people, if there was some vast "systemic racist" conspiracy they were master manipulators at keeping different races in their respective lanes and uplifting asians to deflect.

https://www.mdpi.com/2624-8611/1/1/34

>The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it .

>>17916634
I know /pol/ dislikes the out of africa theory, that is why I said the "most significant move". Humans did stray out of Africa before and humans may have mixed with neanderthals and denisovans, but few permanently settled, few traveled as far as Australia and eventually the Americas, few developed technology like the bow and arrow and left these remains everywhere, the move 70000 years ago had far more profound implications.

Yes, I do reject some of /pol/'s theories, just as I reject leftists when they are being unscientific and irrational or just obtuse.

>>17916543
The fact that you think Flynn Effect proves racial IQ gap isn't caused by genes suggests you are the one who doesn't know anything about this

>>17916544
Yes but the difference between them hasn't. Which is what's important here.

So many social and economic improvement for black minority during 20th century and it resulted in no narrowing of the IQ gap. Isn't that strange? Almost as if... the IQ gap isn't caused by social and economic differences.

>>17912114 (OP)
>Its because race is something that's entirely out of ones control no one chooses to be white or black and discriminating somebody for something they can't change is stupid and immoral.

>discrimination of any kind is stupid.

>>17914820
>nooooo i'm a heckin le based communist who believes in universal equality but I'm cool because I pretend to hate niggers(different from black folx)

>>17912114 (OP)
To me the issue isn't about being racist or non-racist. Rather, it's good to give suspend judgment before looking at an individual's character and interests before relying on inferences based on trends. For example, if you learn x man is an intellectual with sophisticated and refined aesthetic sensibilities, it's not good to stereotype him as y race. However, if he does fit all stereotypes, then I don't care if he experiences racism.

From my experience, most NW Euros are pompous, smug pseuds who use crass humor too much. However, I always suspend judgement before meeting someone.

>>17912114 (OP)
To me the issue isn't about being racist or non-racist. Rather, it's good to give suspend judgment before looking at an individual's character and interests before relying on inferences based on trends. For example, if you learn x man is an intellectual with sophisticated and refined aesthetic sensibilities, it's not good to stereotype him based on y qualities due to his race. However, if he does fit all stereotypes after meeting him, then I don't care if he experiences racism.

From my experience, most NW Euros are pompous, smug pseuds who use crass humor too much. However, I always suspend judgement before meeting someone.

>>17916972
>The fact that you *piiiis shiiiit faaart*
still waiting on that actual argument bud

>>17917924

Kek.

>>17917858
This post was made in the kremlin

>>17912114 (OP)
Racism is a type of discrimination. Unlike some forms of discrimination, such as those based on education or habits, it is not something you can improve or choose. That is why it is considered immoral.

If you want to be racist, you can be anon you dont need to rationalize it.

The only socially acceptable discrimination these days is based on education. Some companies hire only people from certain universities, and you cannot even apply for a position if your university is not on their list. It is blatant, open, and widespread.

>>17912114 (OP)
> /pol/tards in this thread: Racism is heckin BASED! I hate minorities!!! XD
> /pol/tards in this thread when minorities are racist against whites: REEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK. NOT EBIC. RACISM BAD

>>17912114 (OP)
Nothing makes it immoral however American society will collapse if they are honest about race because they have destroyed the largest economy the world has ever seen, larger than all other economies in history combined, on the blatant lie that races are equal.

A lot of interest groups get money because of the lie of racial equality.
America would literally collapse if they admitted what everyone knows but cannot say, races are unequal.
Anti-Racism allows for the imperial bureaucracy to suppress differences and keep people from collectivizing around 'real' identities which could challenge the status quo.

Racism, discrimination, genocide, and segregation is cool! (Unless it happens to me, of course)
> t. Every white alt-right conservative, ever

>>17912170
extra martial affairs and love triangles often lead to physical violence as well, having black people around often leads to an increase in physical violence.
By the reasoning of avoiding violence we should have sexual morality laws and remove blacks from society.
>>17912195
Social inequalities exist irrespective of racism.
>just a social construct
is familial affiliation a social construct?
>>17912203
IQ IS a videogame stat.
>there are smart blacks
something no one denies
however to say that ALL blacks are of an IQ distribution equal to ALL jews or ALL Japanese is silly and obviously untrue.
This is a problem for liberalism because it means that for genetic reasons some groups are locked out of utopia.
No, the conquest of bread will necessarily fail because some races are predetermined to be irrational, wasteful, and anti-social on a scale that precludes utopia.

liberalism will necessarily fail because the intelligence and intuitive altruism necessary for a liberal society just do not exist in certain groups for genetic reasons.

These factors can not be changed by education, resources, or programs.
This means some groups are just locked out of certain social organizations and social forms.

It is a very tragic thing to see liberals in constant retreat on the race issue.

There isnt a good reason to make race a primary issue of liberalism, just accept that ideology can not solve everything and some races are just not going to succeed and this can not be changed.

You will not make Abos into Harvard men anymore than you can make Chimpanzees into Dock Workers.

>>17918417
>I like scoring points in this game but I do not like when points are scored against me
Yes, that is how sane people are.
maybe instead of abolishing the game or forcing Whites not to play it, you should, I dont know, play it better?

>>17918421
You are getting replaced for the past 60 years and you did NOTHING about it
even as we speak, you continue to do NOTHING and you will never do ANYTHING

>>17918427
This post glows.

>>17918399
>>17918417
>Lumping all unrelated pale skinned races as one people
>This is le opposite of what wignats want if I'm a snarky reddit lib to the disparate peoples I've lumped together!
lol, lmao.

there's a reason divide and conquer worked for all the worlds greatest empires, dividing italians, jews, irish, arabs, germans, etc as seperate races would do much more harm to le heckin whiterinos than lumping them all together, the more races you lump together as heckin generic whiterinos is more footsoldiers for whitedom against you than "fellow" 'whites'

>>17918421
...What game? In the real world, nobody gives a flying fuck about race except you brain-rotted Americans lol. You're only persecuted for being white in your internet safe space. Awww, boo-hooooo. :(((

>>17912210
moron

>>17913693
dumbass

>>17918453
>In the real world, nobody gives a flying fuck about race
lol lmao even

>>17918421
>life is le game and every brownoid is actively scoring "points" against me
Reminder that wignats are mentally insane and should be treated as such.

They speculate a bit now that racism is a mental illness, but wouldn't the opposite be true? That xenophilia is the true mental illness. It makes no sense to not prioritize those genetically related to you over everyone else, all else held equal.

>>17918486
You have never done anything to better the lives of other White people.

>>17918138
>education or habits, it is not something you can improve or choose
You can choose those, either. It's only easier to believe that you could. So I feels less "uncalled for" to you, which is why you're less reluctant to discriminate on the basis of that.

>The only socially acceptable discrimination these days is based on education.
This is so naive. People discriminate on the basis of looks - you know of which race is a factor - on a daily basis. It's hard-coded into our brains.

>It is blatant, open, and widespread.
Doesn't make it "fair".

>>17918420
>trauma venting about liberalism and niggers
My favorite genre of /pol/tranny.

>>17918417
>genocide
Nobody wants that except for some psychotic Jews in the Israeli government.
>Racism
>discrimination
>segregation
Le evil words for normal things. I segregate myself in my flat discriminating against the homeless. Boohoo. Why is evil, if I don't want to have you around me? Like seriously? Why are you entitled to the things that I have? Maybe I rather associate with somebody else.

>>17912136
If I were a thief I wouldn't like to go to jail for stealing, does that mean I should stand for unpunished thievery?

>>17918506
>Le evil words for normal things
>UNLESS IT HAPPENS TO ME
>then it's different because....it just is ok?!

>>17918516
I happens to me all the time. I don't care for it. All I'm taking offense at is your hypocrisy.

>>17918529
So those are """normal""" things that happen to you """all the time""", yet you don't care for any of it. Ironic. So keep that same energy when likewise, you aren't entitled to the things others have, others don't want you around them, and others would much rather not associate with you lol

>>17918545
You reap what you sow.

>>17912114 (OP)
Racism is immortal and inherently unjust simply because if you ask any retarded white supremacist or racist if they themselves would like to be subjected to genocide, rigged literary tests, IQ pseudoscience, gentrification, slavery, red-lining, segregation, and the like...the answer from them is always a visceral, horrified "NO".
Racists know it's wrong to be racist.
Racial supremacists know the violent horrors inflicted upon others in the name of racial superiority.
They just don't care, so long as THEY aren't on the receiving end of it.
Ergo, they should be killed. :3

>>17918677
The problem is that "racism" encapsulates very basic ideas like neurological traits varying between taxes and very extreme ideas like some races should be genocided. Some racist ideas are obviously evil while others are simply true.

>>17918677
Who randomly decided this and when

>>17918698
> Be you, retarded anon in an alternate universe America
> Masses of angry, superior black people are chasing you down through the streets and burning crosses while screaming "KILL THAT FUCKING WIGGER! THIS IS A BLACKS-ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD, WIG!!!"
> As you're eventually caught and tied to a tree and feel a noose tightening around your pale neck, you smile and think to yourself "I deserved this for being white. This is fair and just. I really can't complain right now, actually and I-- ACK!!!"

>>17918720
Fucking based.
BLACK PRIDE.
WORLDWIDE.

>>17918677
What is moral for one group of people is immoral for another.
Mexicans come into my country illegally because they make more money than the average American by being paid under the table; that is moral for them. Conversely, mexicans coming into my country means that I have a harder time competing for livable wages and affordable housing. That is immoral for me.
Betraying your home, your country and your people is just about the most immoral thing you could do, because you are acting in complete opposition against your own interests.

>>17918677
What do you have to show for this insane ideology of yours?

>>17918736
> Naming racist historical events and injustices that actually happened is an "insane ideology"
Kill yourself

>>17918741
You labeling things with an arbitrary label and using it to justify killing whomever receives that label is insane, yes. Now I'll ask again: what moral or practical success do you have to show for this ideology you're pushing so hard?

>>17918741
>racism is bad because I said so
black males have killed more Americans than all of America's wars combined post WWII.
Its not a race problem, its a black male problem.

>>17918748
> You're arbitrarily labeling historical events that actually happened and have been recorded to push an agenda!!
And again, I will tell you to kill yourself

>>17918476
>people are atomized individuals who never work together on an ethnic or racial basis to further common goals
Reminder the only crime Wignats committed was trying to play the same game everyone else gets to play but anti-White shitlibs for some reason wont allow White people to play (because theyd win).
>life isnt a game
>BUT DONT YOU DARE DO ANYTHING UNFAIR THATS HECKIN CHEATING
so which is it? is life winner take all spr srs or is life a game in which we respect each other and dont arbitrarily bar a group from playing just because we dont like them?
ironic isnt it?

>>17918720
Black people are pretty rare where I'm at. It's like seeing a unicorn. The ones that do exist are the goofy Steve urkel types

>>17918751
>no argument
This is why you lost, you dont have a coherent set of ideas, you just have strong feelings because your retarded 95 IQ ancestors were humiliated by an outgroup.
You dont actually care about racism, you just dont like that it was done to you.
The whole
>well Wignats wouldnt like when racism is done to them
is pure projection.
Wignats have racism done to them all the time, their complaint is they are magically immoral for going along with it and doing it back to everyone doing it to them.

>>17918720
do shitlibs really think racism is just blind hatred and murder or that racism asks black people to hate their own race?
self hatred is a form of anti-racism.

>>17918750
> black males have killed more Americans than all of America's wars combined post WWII.
/pol/ and Stormfront aren't valid sources, Cletus.

>>17918751
You leaning on historical narratives for the sake of confirmation bias doesn't impress me, faggot. It sounds like you have some really bad ideas you want to shove down people's throat even though they have no reason to agree with you, other than you wishing death on them lmao.

>>17918765
How about the FBI?
>https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

>>17918762
You aren't worth arguing with, why would I argue with an invalid like you that ignores basic history? Look at the state of you, you're basically like this other lunatic >>17918767 here who's saying pointing out actual history is """leaning""" on a bias lol.
I'd tell you to kill yourself again, but you'll do that yourself eventually sometime, I'm sure

>>17918768
Hmmm. I see.
Now, how does that number compare to the millions upon millions of colored people murdered at the hands of colonism and enslavement enforced by white men?
Oh wait, you don't include that number because reasons. :'^)

>>17918734
>Mexicans come into my country illegally because they make more money than the average American by being paid under the table;
But I thought they were kept around because they were underpaid slave labor? Which is it?
>>17918758
you are mentally insane. most brown people do not even know you exist or waste their mundane lives thinking about "wypipo". and no, I don't care what some talking head on twitter was paid to say because they knew it would drive engagement. reduce your screentime.

>>17918787
>Which is it?
It's both.
Even if you're not racist, you can still acknowledge that they don't have equal protections under labor laws, which leaves them subject to exploitation.

>>17918768
> White murder on whites: 2,594
> Black murder on whites: 566
> Black murder on blacks: 2,574
> White murder on blacks: 246
...All I'm getting from this is that whites are more likely to be murdered by other whites, and blacks are more likely to be murdered by other blacks.
??? Was this supposed to be your trump card?

>>17912114 (OP)
>It's completely acceptable to discriminate based on other congenital characteristics like intelligence
Intelligence is at least somewhat malleable and subject to skill sets required to perform a certain job or function.
>place of origin
I don't think I've ever heard of an instance where this was inherently racial rather than bad geopolitical relations. Before 9/11 happened, most people didn't give a shit about MENA.

>>17918798
BLACK PEOPLE KILL OTHER BLACK PEOPLE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHITES KILL OTHER WHITES
WHITE BROS...IT'S FUCKING OVER...
THE BLACKGODS ARE LAUGHING AT US AGAIN....

>>17918768
You do realize this data directly rebukes all the fear-mongoring in rightwing spaces, right? This is literally showing that in reality, as a white person, you are more likely to be at risk of violence and immediate danger from another white person.
But do keep rambling on about how ultraviolent and savage black folk naturally are because Fox news said so, even though, again, you posted an official FBI-backed link that says otherwise. Fucking lol, man.

>>17918720
Couldn't this logic be used to proclaim that causing anything harm is evil? I enjoy eating steak but I wouldn't want to be raised on a farm for slaughter myself. I enjoy industrialized society but I wouldn't want the forest I live in to be chopped down.

>>17918805
>t. can't understand, or is willfully ignorant of, per capita statistics

>>17913279
It isn't absent in whites, it exists in areas where malaria is common, or was historically common. Sicilians despite not having any real SSA ancestry carry the sickle cell trait, something that their next Greek, Levantine, and mainland Italian cousins don't have.

>>17918776
>history is """leaning""" on a bias
This but without the desperate abuse of air quotes. If you can't make a case without observing the obvious nature of written history then you might be the one who's not worth it to argue with.

>>17912114 (OP)
He's turning into fleccas

It's just generally a good idea not to be racist.
https://youtu.be/13pgxOCHKh0?si=d8w1KJOYuRQHwIzC

>>17916539
Funny that when some people see the word "jews" their brains start malfunctioning instantly

>>17918677
>rigged literary tests, IQ pseudoscience
lol
Are SAT tests also pseudoscience anon?

>gentrification, slavery, red-lining, segregation, and the like.
Aside from slavery these are all nothingburgers. I don't why shitlibs think segregation is some terrible evil when it's just races living separately

>>17916609
>>17916635
Still waiting for clarification.

>>17918420
>extra martial affairs and love triangles often lead to physical violence as well, having black people around often leads to an increase in physical violence.
Having racism around leads to far more physical violence than having love triangles and black people around.

>>17912140
Let me guess: America is a 'historically white country'?

>>17912157
you didn't civilize shit
america is a shithole

>>17913025
what is 'white'?

>>17913050
how can you be a white nationalist in a mutt country? how does that work?

>>17913999
asking the true question right here

>>17919951
Western European.

>>17914509
Gen Z White men are limp wristed faggots.