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Anonymous No.17912734 >>17913016 >>17913033 >>17913214 >>17913323 >>17914445
So... how did these poor Galilean laborers learn to compose masterful works in a foreign language? Has anyone addressed this before?
Anonymous No.17912755 >>17913016
They were so smart, they learned another language
Anonymous No.17913016 >>17913103 >>17913783 >>17913790
>>17912734 (OP)
>>17912755
Juba II.
He was in Galilee up until Jesus could start to speak which coincided with Gaius Caesars death, at which point Mary and Joseph was sent westward to his personal libraries to educate him and shield them from the Herods and possible retaliation by Rome for letting Gaius Caesar "die of disease" in the region under Juba II's mentorship and babysitting. When Jesus was done with his education, he switched places with his father in Galilee in order to be Glaphyras secret stepson, due to Glaphyra having been married to Juba II for a year - to the Herods displeasement.
Juba II had used Gaius Caesar, Augustus' grandson and heir, as a sockpuppet in his expeditions and dealings in the region when it came to mapping out the conflict between the Herods, Armenians and other minor players in the wake of Egypts collapse.
Picrel is the coat of arms of Nimes where the "Square House" dedicated to Gaius and Lucius is located. The symbology is that of a Jubaensis palm tree guiding a shackled Basileus. Basically Juba II and his pet Gaius. Juba II was himself also referred to as the Basileus of Numidia and Mauretania.
Anonymous No.17913033
>>17912734 (OP)
The base text of the Gospel was written by someone familiar with Aramaic and Hebrew, in fact I believe that it probably was written in Aramaic, which is why random portions of the text have Jesus speaking in Aramaic and then glosses explaining what it means. This would only make sense if someone was taking a text in a foreign language and chose to leave certain portions untranslated because they didn't know, with the glosses later clarifying. I'll give you an example.
>He took her by the hand and said to her, โ€œTalitha koum!โ€ (which means โ€œLittle girl, I say to you, get up!โ€).
Once you realize that the parentheses are notes added onto the side of the original text it'll make more sense. It might be more the case that the author of the original gospel even read the Aramaic targums of the Bible, but nevertheless it is certain that they were very familiar with the writings of Josephus. I have the sense that they probably read the Aramaic version of his Antiquities rather than the Greek one, but I don't think we have any surviving copies of the Aramaic version.
Anonymous No.17913103 >>17913790
>>17913016
basically palm trees from all over the place and the primary traded date tree species is named after Juba II, because he was the Carl Linnaeus of Rome.
Anonymous No.17913214
>>17912734 (OP)
They were neither poor nor uneducated.
Anonymous No.17913323
>>17912734 (OP)
It was a miracle :)
Anonymous No.17913783 >>17913790
>>17913016
>Picrel is the coat of arms of Nimes where the "Square House" dedicated to Gaius and Lucius is located. The symbology is that of a Jubaensis palm tree guiding a shackled Basileus. Basically Juba II and his pet Gaius. Juba II was himself also referred to as the Basileus of Numidia and Mauretania.
So it serves as a double symbology for how Caesar adopted infant Juba II before Augustus became the heir to Caesar and also forced to deal with the numidian pet,- Juba II.
Then later on, Augustus also put his trust in Juba II to be the babysitter and mentor of Gaius Caesar.
Overall symbolizing Romes control over the south and east through a basileus.
Anonymous No.17913790
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Anonymous No.17914445
>>17912734 (OP)
Mark's Greek as published is pretty rough, Matthew was written in Aramaic/Hebrew and translated to Greek, Luke wasn't a Galilean laborer, and John's Greek as seen in Revelation when he has to write it himself on Patmos is famously extremely rough, the point he's almost writing Aramaic using Greek words in some parts.

That said, "working class men can't be good writers" is the height of class-based bigotry. Even from a secular perspective, the other most religiously influential text besides the Gospels, the Koran, was made by a completely illiterate man. Arabic-speaking Muslims never stop talking about its eloquence.