Thread 17913626

>None of these states control more than 50% of their territory against ISIS and Al Qaeda
Why are random sahelian nations so affected by durka durka jihad?

>>17913626 (OP)
poor diversity ratios. insufficient white people.

>>17913626 (OP)
A lot of African/middle eastern armies are undetermined, corrupt and disorganized. For example Somalia with the help of the West and AU has been trying to defeat AS for 20 years and they still control most of the country, or the Taliban and the HTS. Same with the Sahel, they got rid of France because they thought France wasn’t doing a good job and the situation only got worse.
As greater powers withdraw from MENA and Africa we will see a massive resurgence of jihadism, entire countries falling to just a few hundred determined mujahideen.

>>17913650
All 3 of the nations in the picture are among the most retarded on earth iq wise. They blame the French and west for everything

>>17913654
France didn’t have any good intentions either, its just that they were much better than Russia.

>>17913626 (OP)
Stop lying cuck. Burkina Faso controls over 70 percent of their territory, Niger over 80-90 percent (the insurgency is only near the border) and Mali only has terrorist control in the north. Also this is off topic and doesn't belong here
>>17913654
France moralfagged and prevented the local government's from doing what was actually needed to fight terrorism and drive up efficiency while signing deals to mine uranium and other resources like pale leeches. The moment they left, Mali immediately retook Kidal, advanced to the Algerian border, significantly decreased terror attacks and Burkina Faso went up from 40 percent territorial control by 30 points.

>>17913661
>moralfagging is preventing the government from committing massacres on ethnic minorities
KEK
If you think the security situation is better now than years before you've gotta be a nigger or paid shill. JNIM can freely commit attacks in bamako and siege entire cities. ACLED recently put out a report that 60% of territory is under influence or control of jihadists in burkina

>>17913661
Doesn't seem like it

>>17913661
Black hands typed this

>>17913661
>The moment they left, Mali immediately retook Kidal
Great so while the mujahideen islamists manage to spread like AIDS and destroy everything in their path the Malian army with the help of slavic mercenaries managed to seize a town from the one secular armed group there is in the entire region (Azawad tuareg nationalists).

>>17913626 (OP)
>Why are random sahelian nations so affected by durka durka jihad?
Start with reading about the Algerian Civil War in the 1990s. Algeria became independent from France in the 1960s and was ruled by an authoritarian and militaristic party called the FLN (still is) which had its roots in a sort of left-wing nationalism:
https://youtu.be/OerXQjqWwh4

Then in the 1990s, there were moves to open things up, and the main opposition that rose up were Islamists who were inspired by waves of this coming out of the Middle East. Obviously there were problems with corruption and the economy, but the Islamists also appealed to the rural folks (and many people had moved to the cities over the years) with their highly socially conservative agenda. The situation radicalized and turned into a civil war because they couldn't agree to share power.

The FLN won though. It's a similar story in the Sahel except these countries are more ethnically divided and there are different tribes, and Islamism is not an ethnic ideology (religion can act like ethnicity but Islam is a univeralist religion) and the sense of nationalism is weaker in these countries than it is in Algeria. The FLN really had a nationalist origin story they could draw on. There are couple of other things I'll mention.

>>17913793
I mean in theory. Cut me some slack. They convert people. JNIM seems to make an effort reading out their speeches in the multiple languages that people speak in the Sahel and they draw people in from different groups.

The other things. Gaddafi being overthrown in Libya helped push the Tuaregs south along with a lot of weapons (a lot of these Tuaregs used to be pro-Gaddafi guys who had bases in Libya). The war in Libya also helped foster a real anti-French reaction in these countries because a lot of people saw Gaddafi as someone who put his money where his mouth is. What people don't understand about these coups that happened in the Sahel is that they were genuinely popular. They were popular putsches. The armies of these countries don't move until they smell the public mood and not a moment too soon. But they're also kind of retarded. One thing to keep in mind is that colonization didn't penetrate as deeply in the Sahel, which was traditionally ruled by military chiefs. The state-building civil service people owe to French influence but the military officers would just be like "that's all French shit" and get rid of them and will shove a boot up your ass if you don't like it.

The ideology of these coupsters is a kind of boneheaded Pan-Africanism that LARPs as anti-colonial nationalists from the past while blaming all of their problems on the West and especially the French, but they're more of a scapegoat. There are also guys who have gravitated towards these military chiefs who are into Kemetism which is like some trad we must retrvn to the ancient Egyptians ersatz religion. It's like this:
https://youtu.be/OXre9C4kOsM

But I was reading a Nigerien professor (who doesn't like the military, thinks they're a bunch of fascists with a lot of delusions) and he wasn't blaming the French for why the situation was fucked up, it was more that the civilian government (they've had several since the 1990s that would be interrupted by military coups) was hardly different or better than the military. And as far as the average guy there was concerned, all he'd know is that there was chaos, terrorists, jihadists, and also French troops rolling around in armored vehicles, and he's powerless, so it was very easily to start being like grrrrrr and then get snookered by the argument that "it's all connected" so the solution = get rid of the French. There are a bunch of people who believe the jihadists are all secret French agents wearing bad jihadi costumes. It's not the reality but it "made sense" as a narrative, and people bought it.

But his sense is that there has been a lot of air going out of the balloon since then, because the military has solved none of the problems. It might have even gotten worse. And now you're living under military rule where there's no room for criticism at all (unless you live abroad).

Better question is why are jihadis the only effective militaries in the region? Unironically if the entire place looked like this they'd probably own the world atp.

>>17913675
In absolute thirdie shitholes, ethnic minorities are often blatant fifth columns that enable terrorists and organized crime. If you want to stabilize the country at all you must brutally subjugate the entire group with violence if necessary