Thread 17916689

There is a reason nordicists are so adamant in their half-satirical attempts to imply "massive replacements" of southern europeans (beside spanish, which they need to save face, even if they hate em)
It's because up until the 1400 century, the history of europe has as protagonists AT BEST, spaniard-like short mediterranoids that are not super far away with them only because of the drifting effect WHJeet admix has, and at worst Euro-levantines/Euro-caucasians like Imperial Romans, Ancient Greeks, Paleo-balkanites, Carthaginians etc...
Basically nordix have shown up after Galileo (swarthy Italianoid) perfectioned the scientific method, accomplished something sure (with strong euro-levantine influences, as Ashkenazi Jews and Italians played a VITAL role. The atomic bomb is basically their doing, + many other inventions,there is a reason Charles Murray figure refers to geographical birth and not biologic ancestry) and then replaced themselves and fell victim to their feminist celtic influences.

TLDR: Whites have been only been a dominant force in history for the last 500-400 years and even then a lot of swarthoids (like Napoleon) managed to basically steal the show. So much for the "pure" masterrace. Most of important people prior to that would've not been pure whites, and closer genetically to many middle easterners than north europeans.

>as Ashkenazi Jews and Italians played a VITAL role. The atomic bomb is basically their doing, + many other inventions,there is a reason Charles Murray figure refers to geographical birth and not biologic ancestry) and then replaced themselves and fell victim to their feminist celtic influences.
Every time.
Why do these "We were always brown actually" posters always ALWAYS reveal themselves to be jeets, semites, niggers, or similar ilk? They cannot help but push themselves in the middle there to claim these achievements as their own instead of white people.

>>17917179
Is oppenheimer danish?
It was mostly attributable to Oppenheimer and Fermi. Fermi was half southerner so he was euro levantine.
The rest is also true. Murray precisely talks about "place of birth" instead of "ancestry from" in his "european core" argument, because he has to account for Ashkenazi Jews

>>17916689 (OP)
>TLDR: Whites have been only been a dominant force in history for the last 500-400 years
And that 500 years has had more progress than the 100 000 years before it.

>>17917550
Progress towards white extinction yeah
Also it's cooler to dominate the world through brawns than through firearms at a safe distance. Whites don't have much glory to their name.

>>17916689 (OP)
>beside spanish
what do you mean? Spanish never got replaced, in fact they became whiter over time, Roman era Spaniards were like Canarians, and the Reconquista made them much more similar to the Spanish Iron Age


>>17917536
Southern Italians are not Levantine

>>17917560
They don't target spaniards anymore because they need them to larp as if romans were swedish when they were mocking natural disaster's victims two seconds before because they are "moors".

>>17917570
Oh yeah they definitely do that. I misunderstood what you were saying. They seem to have a higher opinion of Spaniards than Italians and Greeks and I also suspect that's part of the reason why. But I think another reason is that Bronze Age Pervert who has a massive following that promotes these ideas likes Iberians but not so much Italians and Greeks.

Anyone who utters the word nordicist should be put up against a wall at this point.

>>17917560
>in fact they became whiter over time,
It appears most of Europe has since the iron age, lighter pigments and taller/larger across the board, without significant aDNA changes in many cases.

>>17916689 (OP)
Trvthnuke but this board is crazy biased

>>17916689 (OP)
We couldn't be bothered with "civilization".
It was cold and we were all so fucking attractive.
All we needed was a sauna.
Why would we build things that would attract short ugly brown people?

>>17916689 (OP)
>Whites have been only been a dominant force in history for the last 200-100
FIFY.

>The Great Divergence or European miracle is the socioeconomic shift in which the Western world (i.e. Western Europe along with its settler offshoots in Northern America and Australasia) overcame pre-modern growth constraints and emerged during the 19th century as the most powerful and wealthy world civilizations, eclipsing previously dominant or comparable civilizations from Asia such as Qing China, Mughal India, the Ottoman Empire, Safavid Iran, and Tokugawa Japan, among others

>Scholars have proposed a wide variety of theories to explain why the Great Divergence happened, including geography, culture, institutions, and luck. There is disagreement over the nomenclature of the "great" divergence, as a clear point of beginning of a divergence is traditionally held to be the 16th or even the 15th century, with the Commercial Revolution and the origins of mercantilism and capitalism during the Renaissance and the Age of Discovery, the rise of the European colonial empires, proto-globalization, the Scientific Revolution, or the Age of Enlightenment. Yet the largest jump in the divergence happened in the late 18th and 19th centuries with the Industrial Revolution and Technological Revolution. For this reason, the "California school" considers only this to be the great divergence

>Technological advances, in areas such as transportation, mining, and agriculture, were embraced to a higher degree in western Eurasia than the east during the Great Divergence. Technology led to increased industrialization and economic complexity in the areas of agriculture, trade, fuel, and resources, further separating east and west. Western Europe's use of coal as an energy substitute for wood in the mid-19th century gave it a major head start in modern energy production

>>17917612
>In the twentieth century, the Great Divergence peaked before the First World War and continued until the early 1970s; then, after two decades of indeterminate fluctuations, in the late 1980s it was replaced by the Great Convergence as the majority of developing countries reached economic growth rates significantly higher than those in most developed countries

>Some argue that the cultural factors behind the divergence can be traced to earlier periods and institutions such as the Renaissance and the Chinese imperial examination system. Broadberry asserts that in terms of silver wages even the richest areas of Asia were behind Western Europe as early as the 16th century. He cites statistics comparing England to the Yangzi Delta (the most developed part of China by a good margin) showing that by 1600 the former had three times the latter's average wages when measured in silver, 15% greater wages when measured in wheat equivalent (the latter being used to approximate buying power for basic subsistence goods and the former to approximate buying power for craft goods, especially traded ones), and higher urbanization. England's silver wages were also five times higher than those of India in the late 16th century. Grain wages started to diverge more sharply from the early 18th century, with English wages being two and a half times higher than India or China's in wheat equivalent while remaining about five times higher in silver at that time. However, this disparity only applied to Northwest Europe; Broadberry states that silver wages in Southern, Central, and Eastern Europe did not surpass advanced parts of Asia until 1800

>>17917593
There is nothing wrong with the word. It accurately classifies a certain historically revisionist phenomenon and belief system. The only reason to take offense would be if you subscribe to those beliefs.

>>17917612
>>17917614
The collapse in trade networks and the rise of Christianity as a political force during the early middle ages ended up eliminating most slavery in Western Europe.

The Black Death broke the back of serfdom in Western Europe —> Rise of the Middle Class —> Social Mobility —> Society turns into a meritocracy. The real great change was England between 1100 ad and 1500 ad where there was a miracle which took place of most the population going from being illiterate serfs to being freemen who were aspiring professionals. This broke down regional markets and created waves of medieval urbanisation which led to nation-wide economy and economic viability of widespread mechanisation.

There were Greek and Roman republics to imitate. The Printing Press made dissemination of information orders of magnitude more easy than it had previously been. Europe developed colleges which spread knowledge of science. Patent laws created a unique incentive to create and publicize economically useful technologies.

The combination of all of these produced the Scientific Revolution in 1500-1600s. Industrial revolution in the 1700-1800s was started by scientific achievements. You can make railroads in Rome if you now how and no slave labor cant even pretend they could compete with railroad. But Romans didn't know how, they had no science.

>omg we DNA tested a black slave or brown mutt slave bone and therefore we wuz kangs

Grow up.

>>17917555
>Progress towards white extinction yeah
Exactly. Christendom (Read as what the original West was) began its civilizational decay the moment it accepted Nominalism against the theory of universals of classical Aristotelianism:

>Ideas Have Consequences is a philosophical work by Richard M. Weaver, published in 1948 by the University of Chicago Press. The book is largely a treatise on the harmful effects of nominalism on Western civilization since this doctrine gained prominence in the Late Middle Ages, followed by a prescription of a course of action through which Weaver believes the West might be rescued from its decline

>Weaver rejects the notion that the axioms underlying a human belief system can be arbitrary exercises of ultimate choice not anchored in objective realities without that system declining and ultimately failing. Accordingly, Weaver attacks nominalism using historical analogy and the teleological implications, or "consequences" of such a world view

>It is important, however, to distinguish this approach from that of historicism, which contends that history unfolds in deterministic cycles. Weaver emphasizes his position that the cause of apparent patterns in the decline of civilizations is the recurring replacement of "an ontological division [of the cosmos] by categories" with "a study of signification ... [in which the] words no longer correspond to objective realities."

>Weaver attributes the beginning of the Western decline to the adoption of nominalism (or the rejection of the notion of absolute truth) in the late Scholastic period. The chief proponent of this philosophical revolution was William of Ockham

>The consequences of this revolution, Weaver contends, were the gradual erosion of the notions of distinction and hierarchy, and the subsequent enfeebling of the Western mind's capacity to reason. These effects in turn produced all manner of societal ills, decimating Western art, education and morality

>>17917179
And they talk like redditors, it's funny and weird

>>17917641
>Weaver gives the name "The Great Stereopticon" to what he perceives as a rising, emergent construct which serves to manipulate the beliefs and emotions of the populace, and ultimately to separate them from their humanity via "the commodification of truth"

This degradation was further accelerated with the rediscovery of Lucretius' On The Nature of Things, which would introduce the idea of Materialism and Evolution to the West:

>Titus Lucretius Carus (/ˈtaJtəs luːˈkriːʃəs/ TY-təs loo-KREE-shəs; Latin: [ˈtitus luˈkreːti.us ˈkaːrus]; c.99 – October 15, 55 BC) was a Roman poet and philosopher. His only known work is the philosophical poem De rerum natura, a didactic work about the tenets and philosophy of Epicureanism, which usually is translated into English as On the Nature of Things—and somewhat less often as On the Nature of the Universe. Very little is known about Lucretius's life; the only certainty is that he was either a friend or client of Gaius Memmius, to whom the poem was addressed and dedicated. De rerum natura was a considerable influence on the Augustan poets, particularly Virgil (in his Aeneid and Georgics, and to a lesser extent on the Eclogues) and Horace. The work was almost lost during the Middle Ages, but was rediscovered in 1417 in a monastery in Germany by Poggio Bracciolini. It played an important role both in the development of atomism (Lucretius was an important influence on Pierre Gassendi) and the efforts of various figures of the Enlightenment era to construct a new Christian humanism

>>17917669
>Lucretius identifies the supernatural with the notion that the deities created our world or interfere with its operations in some way. He argues against fear of such deities by demonstrating, through observations and arguments, that the operations of the world can be accounted for in terms of natural phenomena. These phenomena are the regular, but purposeless motions and interactions of tiny atoms in empty space. Meanwhile, he argues against the fear of death by stating that death is the dissipation of a being's material mind. Lucretius uses the analogy of a vessel, stating that the physical body is the vessel that holds both the mind (mens) and spirit (anima) of a human being. Neither the mind nor spirit can survive independent of the body. Thus Lucretius states that once the vessel (the body) shatters (dies) its contents (mind and spirit) can no longer exist. So, as a simple ceasing-to-be, death can be neither good nor bad for this being. Being completely devoid of sensation and thought, a dead person cannot miss being alive. According to Lucretius, fear of death is a projection of terrors experienced in life, of pain that only a living (intact) mind can feel. Lucretius also puts forward the 'symmetry argument' against the fear of death. In it, he says that people who fear the prospect of eternal non-existence after death should think back to the eternity of non-existence before their birth, which probably did not cause them much suffering

>To prove this position he called upon the atomism of Democritus, so as to demonstrate that the material universe was formed not by a Supreme Being, but by the mixing of elemental particles that had existed from all eternity governed by certain simple laws. Lucretius' task was to clearly state and fully develop these views in an attractive form; his work was an attempt to show that everything in nature can be explained by natural laws, without the need for the intervention of divine beings

>>17917685
The rot would be formalized with Descartes philosophy:

>Descartes has often been dubbed the father of modern Western philosophy, the philosopher that with his skeptic approach has profoundly changed the course of Western philosophy and set the basis for modernity. The first two of his Meditations on First Philosophy, those that formulate the famous methodic doubt, represent the portion of Descartes' writings that most influenced modern thinking. It has been argued that Descartes himself didn't realize the extent of his revolutionary gesture.In shifting the debate from "what is true" to "of what can I be certain?," Descartes shifted the authoritative guarantor of truth from God to humanity. (While the traditional concept of "truth" implies an external authority, "certainty" instead relies on the judgment of the individual.) In an anthropocentric revolution, the human being is now raised to the level of a subject, an agent, an emancipated being equipped with autonomous reason

>This was a revolutionary step that posed the basis of modernity, the repercussions of which are still ongoing: the emancipation of humanity from Christian revelational truth and Church doctrine, a person who makes his own law and takes his own stand. In modernity, the guarantor of truth is not God anymore but human beings, each of whom is a "self-conscious shaper and guarantor" of their own reality. In that way, each person is turned into a reasoning adult, a subject, and agent, as opposed to a child obedient to God. This change in perspective was characteristic of the shift from the Christian medieval period to the modern period; that shift had been anticipated in other fields, and now Descartes was giving it a formulation in the field of philosophy

>>17917623
No that's not the only reason. If you lived in 1940 that would be a noble and worthy position to take. But now it's the constant haranguing of some powerless edgy teenage and 20 something spergs who are kicked around by their own society. Most of them aren't even properly nordicists but some other type of pointless very online persona. Pick up a cross that actually matters unless you're Indian. If that's the case just kys and die.

>>17917641
>The chief proponent of this philosophical revolution was William of Ockham

Just to prove that the Slippery slope applies to Nominalism:

Ockham, when responding to Porphyry's questions in the Isagoge about universals – whether they exist beyond sensible reality, whether they are corporeal or incorporeal, etc. –, denied universal essences, that is, the intrinsic properties shared by different entities. According to Thomist metaphysics, essence is composed of the union of matter and form, defining being in its entirety. Ockham, however, adopted a radical particularism that would give rise to all modernity. For this reason, he is considered the father of the separation between faith and reason, theology and philosophy. For Ockham, it is only possible to have knowledge of what is singular, that is, of what exists in concrete reality. Thus, knowledge of singularity cannot be combined with what is abstract.

All modern philosophy emerges from this perspective. It also gives rise to scientism, which claims that the experimental-mathematical-deductive method is the only objective means of knowledge. The philosophical empiricism of Hobbes, who was a nominalist, followed this same line, as did Pierre Gassendi. This thought reached the 20th century with Richard Rorty and the affirmation of the contingency of linguistic constructions in opposition to the real existence of absolute and eternal foundations of reality.

It was in this context that post-structuralism emerged, which denies essence by arguing that matter and form are, above all, shaped by relations of both language and power. They are structures shaped by what Foucault called knowledge-power.

Second-wave feminism, Critical race theory, Gender ideology, etc... are not Marxism. Quite the contrary, it comes from French post-structuralist philosophy, especially from the 1960s, which continues an anti-essentialist trend in modern philosophy.

>>17917728
So what, pray tell, do we call people who subscribe to the following belief system?

>the ancient Greco-Romans were phenotypically or genetically like Northern Europeans
>all ancient civilizations were created by people more similar to Northern Europeans than the contemporary inhabitants
>Northern Europeans are inherently superior to anyone else in the world
>blonde hair, blue eyes, and an elongated skull are superior traits
>Southern and Eastern Europeans are mongrels
>Southern and Eastern Europeans need to be killed or have their fertility lowered so that Germanic Northern Europeans can set up colonies to replace them or outbreed them to make these regions more "Nordic"

Do you have a better word than "nordicist" for that?

>>17917746
It's more that anyone holding more than one of these positions is probably a fraction of a percent of the global population. Groups like literal flat earthers are exponentially more common these days even if just as harmless.

You're crusading against phantoms of the past and literal autists like Varg Vikerns. Or similarly confused younger social outcasts. It's soulless and gay.

Nords and Anglos are overrated, and they are like the attack dogs of the Jews. You stole culture from the Medis you criticize so hard.
You chose an image of a homosexual hero that was ruined by being the chosen of the mad goddess Atena (her lore overestimates her greatly) that was commissioned by Empress Sisi to depict him while dying.
Instead, you could have chosen an image of Victorious Achilles instead who was commissioned by the man who later lived in that same palace.
Get over yourselves, whitoids.

>>17918048
What's this slum monkey babbling about?

>>17916689 (OP)
White people are still superior to Tartar-Mongoloids so I fail to see your point.

>>17916689 (OP)
>DNA destroyed white supremacism

Whites have the best jeans. ;)

>>17918070
Of course you would not address anything in my post lol typical Jewish tactic

>>17916689 (OP)
All the people you mentioned are white, unless you are a nordicist yourself (and not even an honest one, since those use "nordic" instead)

>>17919534
Wasn't coherent enough to address, now here's a banana , go fuck off

>>17916689 (OP)
White supremacy is on the moon. Not in old crumbling temples.
>>17917555
>White extinction
It’s more so progress toward human extinction than White extinction.
Non-Whites don’t have a native industry for modern medicine or computer technology. Without White engineers and specialized machinery the world literally reverts back to a pre industrial era state.
>>17917570
No one ever targeted any Medbugs.
It was always banter and now non-Whites trying to pass as Meds are trying to wedge White from Med.
Italians Iberians Greeks are all closer to Finns genetically and visually than they are to any non-White non-Europeans.

>>17918712
We are talking about genetic ancestry here dummy, not about the amerimutt ads that only show depravation of the woman rather than her traditional role

>>17916689 (OP)
>How modern autosomal DNA destroyed white supremacism
Objectevely speaking, you're delusional. You're living in alternate reality created by your brain.

>>17920712
Nah, OP's right in a roundbout way.
Because most people read "european" and think white. However if you actually care to know the difference, a lot of these "europeans" are closer to west asian than anglos or nords.
For example Robert Sepher is now going around saying Carthaginians were white when they were at most borderline because they had "european" (sicilian and mycenaean) admix.
History is of the swarthy. The nordix have pretty insignificant history.
The anglos have it but again, heavy, heavy swarthy influences from ashkenazi jews.

>>17916689 (OP)
>MARCH OF THE TITANS
kek

>>17922310
part 2

>>17922312
part 3

>>17916689 (OP)
Non-whites are not human

>>17921462
>History is of the swarthy
My sides

>>17922664
>not human
So they are a different species? You guys seem very scared of racemixing...why do you care if this can't produce reproductively viable offspring?

It's like saying black labs are not dogs, but a golden retriever is...

>>17916689 (OP)
>nordicists
Stopped reading right there.
No one calls themselves this or thinks Scandinavians are the same genetic stock of Mediterranean peoples of antiquity.
They're clearly have common ancestors however.
Its not so hard to understand. Why do you hate white people so much?

>>17917746
This is a strawman. As the other anon has pointed out who actually believes in this? Anon posters on x and 4chan?

>>17922736
By that logic everybody can be proud of each others achievment, since all of us in the entire world descent from a common ancestor.

>>17922854
The problem for Nordicists is that Meds are closer to Middle Easterners than they are, meaning they have more right than Nords do to be proud of the invention of Writing system, Alphabet, Numbers, Mathematic, Medicine, Agriculture, Geometry, Laws, City-states, Empires, Currency, Centralized Government, Astronomy, Sociology, Wheel, Calendar system, Organized religions, Division Labor Universities, Glass, Copper, etc...

>>17922900
Well a lot of that comes from times before our knowledge of history goes back to, so you're out of luck if you want to claim they were all invented by the Greeks and Romans. That's why people have fantasies about the Aryans or Atlanteans, sort of like the "God of the gaps" where science cannot or has not yet explained something therefore it defaults to "God did it."

>>17917761
>It's more that anyone holding more than one of these positions is probably a fraction of a percent of the global population
that's always how it starts but it only gets more and more popular, the same happened to flat earth but nordicism and hating southern Europe is experiencing a period of explosive growth on the internet and anyone denying it is stupid or lying
>You're crusading against phantoms of the past and literal autists like Varg Vikerns
your people are making it the present
>Or similarly confused younger social outcasts
oh you're right I should feel so bad for the poor oppressed forgotten toothless fent addicted germanics in blue collar America because they have no power because of the mean old jews so I need to go easy on them while they take constant shots at my people :(( I'm so sorry I didn't realize I only exist to be the medcuck punching bag to make germanic wignats feel better about their utter desolation

>>17922736
>No one calls themselves this or thinks Scandinavians are the same genetic stock of Mediterranean peoples of antiquity.
They literally do think exactly that and it's all over the internet, it's spammed on here and many much more popular places, tiktok, twitter. Are you living under a rock or playing dumb? You fucking idiot. There's literally someone in this thread dumping march of the titans which is a nordicist book about how the Greeks and Romans were nordic and how modern southern Europeans are mongrels with black DNA and he has spammed it 43 times in the past 2 years alone you fucking idiot how are you going to tell me there is no nordicist movement you disingenuous loser? https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/CaRBUc-2TZMeIV8XCwaFNA/
>They're clearly have common ancestors however.
ancient Greeks were more similar to Ashkenazi Jews and Syrians than they are to northern Europeans and had the least steppe in Europe, what common ancestors

>>17923123
Anon for the love of god log off and touch grass. There is no "explosive growth" in nordicism. You're building windmills in your mentally ill mind to tilt at.

>>17918712
There literally is, tiktok and twitter are full of hate towards from southern europeans from germanic pigs like you along with an entire ecosystem of e-celebs like Bronze Age Pervert and STJ. Why don't you tell them to touch grass you stupid nigger. Of course the uppity brownoid must be silenced but nordicists are free to say whatever the fuck they want. Crying out in pain as you strike us you are exactly like the jews you hate so much. I laugh at every death of northern European children from immigrant crime. You did this.

>>17921462
Spaniard here
NIGGER you gotta hang from a fucking tree

>>17923144
>frothing with rage to the point he can't even respond to the correct post
Take a deep breath, step away from the computer, go outside and get some air. I don't think spamming pictures of terrorist attacks to 'own the nordgoloids' is a sign a mentally healthy person is posting

>>17923144
Kys and die retard
We don't claim you

>>17923147
Germanics think you are a stupid moor, we're not the white team so stop defending guiris who think you are their brown waiter. nords are as much of a problem for us as nafris are. Anglos were the historical enemy of Spain and disassembled the Spanish Empire piece by piece. Why the fuck are you defending them

>>17923132
>There is no "explosive growth" in nordicism.
there is and you're such an idiot you will deny something as obvious as that

>>17923157
>Conquistador pic
Are you knew? Do you not know of the West vs East med divide on this board?

>>17923158
Us?
Excuse me but who's us? Where the fuck are you even from?

There are millions of niggers and sandniggers invading Europe right now (both North and South Europe) so excuse me if I don't have time for this autistic lunatic bullshit

But you are most likely an Indian nigger of some sort. Anyways, fucking die

>>17923158
>there is
Because some spaz posted march of the titans in a thread on /his/?

Again, go outside anon.

>>17923162
>Conquistador pic
Precisely
That's a portrait of Nicolas Federmann. A German conquistador involved in Spanish expeditions in Venezuela and Colombia and governor of Santa Ana de Coro

No matter how much you niggers want to divide a conquer. The truth is that we share history, both Germanic and Latin Europe. And we have fought together hundreds of times.

>>17923184
>>17923168
you're such a good slave unable and unwilling to break free from white nationalism slop propaganda, grab another cerveza for Hans while he calls you a brown moor and has zero respect for you

>>17923184
>And we have fought together hundreds of times.
at Nordlingen, a glorious day where many krauts were killed

>>17923200
yes saar bloody benchod white nationalists saar

>>17916689 (OP)
R1B haplogroup

>>17922900
>meds are closer to Middle Easterners
Well not exactly, the furthest people from MENAmutts are Iberians.
Distant from MENAjeets is mediated by WHG ancestry.
>more right than Nords do to be proud of
>writing
Writing came about first in Vinca Culture Europe.
>Alphabet
unknown where it began but probably in a high EEF population.
Swedes have more EEF than MENAjeets do.
>numbers
EEF creation
>mathematic
EEF
>medicine
Nords, easily.
>agriculture
literally EEF
>geometry
EEF
>laws
EEF
Everything you listed came from Early European/Anatolian farmers.
Finnish people have more EEF than 90% of MENA and Swedes have more EEF than 100% of MENA.
Swedes have a greater claim to early civilization than anyone in West Asia.

MENAmutts are retarded birdbeak uggos today, they were retarded uggos in the past.
>no we lost our glorious society due to
no, you never had one, you are dysgenic desert wanderers enslaved by Anatolians and then you outbred them like slaves and the society declined.

Finnish people share more DNA with the first man to read the written word than (You) do.
That is how close Meds and Nords are and that is how much DNA from Anatolians Europeans have and also how much (you) lack

>>17923488
>the furthest people from MENAmutts are
Basques, who are 1.2% of Spain's population according to the National Statistics Institute of 2021 and look more Middle Eastern than Average Spanish.
>Distant from MENAjeets is mediated by WHG ancestry
European on here are actively hiding that all European ancestry is female mediated. Not even Haplogroup I1 or I2 is European, and has been spread by Eastern migrants from the Middle East into European women. Proto WHG also known as Proto Aurignacian was formed 50kya via Haplogroup C1a and C1b while Haplogroup IJ split up somewhere in the Caucasus region around 40kya. Which means, there is not even a single "original European“ male lineage, it was "UP European“ which expanded from the Caucasus region that spread Haplogroup I1 and I2 into European women.

And there's also this, I (Nordic haplogroup) is the brother of J (Middle Eastern haplogroup) because they descended from IJ.

>writing
>alphabet
>numbers
>mathematic
>medicine
>agriculture
>geometry
>laws
>EEF
Even you don't believe in this bullshit, loser.

>>17917641
Based Weaver enjoyer

>>17916689 (OP)
wait until your average nazi realizes china was the richest country in the history (until celtic barbarians came out of their little island and ruined everything) and is soon going to retrieve that title again

>>17922900
Now this is pajeet shitposting lol

>half italian
>half anglo
>get to claim it all
>>17923588

Stay mad nafris and pajeets

>>17923583
tfr lower than japan says what now

>>17923583
Rhino horn dust wont make your micro PP bigger

>>17923488
>>17923588
gotta love the Nazi tears

>>17923593
Who has the same parent haplogroup as Middle Easterners, Sven?

>Haplogroup IJ (M429/P125) is a human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup, an immediate descendant of Haplogroup IJK (formerly known as Haplogroup F-L15). IJK is a branch of Haplogroup HIJK

>Descendants: I, J

>Haplogroup I1 is believed to have been present among Upper Paleolithic European hunter-gatherers as a minor lineage but due to its near-total absence in pre-Neolithic DNA samples it cannot have been very widespread. Neolithic I1 samples are very sparse as well, suggesting a rapid dispersion connected to a founder effect in the Nordic Bronze Age. Today it reaches its peak frequencies in Sweden (52 percent of males in Västra Götaland County) and western Finland (more than 50 percent in Satakunta province). In terms of national averages, I-M253 is found in 38-39% of Swedish males, 37% of Norwegian males, 34.8% of Danish males, 34.5% of Icelandic males, and about 28% of Finnish males. Bryan Sykes, in his 2006 book Blood of the Isles, gives the members – and the notional founding patriarch of I1 the name "Wodan"

>J1 is found today in significant frequencies in many areas in or near the Arabian Peninsula and Western Asia. Out of its native Asian Continent, it is found at very high frequencies in Sudan. It is also found at very high but lesser extent in parts of the Caucasus, Ethiopia and parts of North Africa and amongst most Levant peoples, including Jewish groups, especially those with Cohen surnames. It can also be found much less commonly, but still occasionally in significant amounts, in parts of southern Europe and as far east as Central Asia

>>17923200
>>17923212
Saaaar you will never be one of us saaar
Cope seethe and kys

>>17923488
Why are being so disingenuous? You do know that EEF is not the same thing as ANF?

>>17923488
Why are you being so disingenuous? You do know that EEF is not the same thing as ANF, right?

>>17923144
What the fuck are you talking about jesse?

>>17923200
I am German. Spain is probably the most popular country here.

>its the anti-white meds are not white cope again
We can see right through your jewish divisive tactics, i hope the palestians kill all you fucking dirty kikes