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Anonymous No.17918848 >>17918863 >>17918874 >>17918904 >>17918929 >>17919231 >>17919371 >>17920014 >>17920037 >>17920039 >>17920121
Why isn't Christianity more popular in Japan?
Jesus-chan is very kawaii and his kokoro goes doki doki for you.
Anonymous No.17918853 >>17919465
What is Jesus's stance on cute anime girls?
Anonymous No.17918863
>>17918848 (OP)
>Why isn't cancer more popular among healthy people
Anonymous No.17918874 >>17918909
>>17918848 (OP)
>why isn't a jewish psyop more popular in a country that didn't evolve over thousands of years around jews trying to psyop them
Anonymous No.17918904 >>17918932
>>17918848 (OP)
The Japanese know far more about Jesus and his brother Isukiri than every western theologian in existence but they will never reveal their secrets to us outsiders
Anonymous No.17918909 >>17918921 >>17919672
>>17918874
Christianity isn’t Jewish.
Anonymous No.17918921
>>17918909
The first 75% of Christian scripture is just Jewish mythology for no reason, pure coincidence.
Anonymous No.17918929
>>17918848 (OP)
>Basque priest arrives in Japan sponsored by Portuguese merchants
>hundreds of thousands of Japanese people convert out of a population of only a few million
>French priest arrives in Japan sponsored by the French
>hundreds of thousands of Japanese people convert out of a population of a hundred million
hmm
Anonymous No.17918932
>>17918904
I see Nips got to hear Islamic account of Jesus' crucifixion (or something similar to it) before they heard the Christian account of it.
Anonymous No.17918938
They have a long history of banning Christianity. Also, it's generally seen as a 'Western' religion, one that is not compatible with the culture of Japan.
Simon Salva !!h4wpIXR3ZRV No.17919231 >>17919660
>>17918848 (OP)

Because Japan is run by demon worshippers. We need a Japanese Emperor who will convert to Catholicism and do away with Shintoism.
Anonymous No.17919248
Because the Japanese value education.
Anonymous No.17919371 >>17919378
>>17918848 (OP)
The christian metaphysic makes absolutely no sense in a world untouched by jews and their filth. Once heebs successfully fill their country with mudhordes I guarantee they will develop a fondness of the good news
Simon Salva !!h4wpIXR3ZRV No.17919378
>>17919371

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17801026/#17801026

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17799249/#17799249
Anonymous No.17919465
>>17918853
When Jesus returns it will actually be in the form of a cute anime girl so everyone instantly recognises her as a higher being
Anonymous No.17919660
>>17919231
Oh, our jester is here, too?
Anonymous No.17919672 >>17919829
>>17918909
Christianity is from Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef. This Jew observed Hanukkah (John 10:22-23) and came only for Jews (Matthew 15:22-28). He forbid preaching to goyim (Matthew 10:5-6). He told a goya who gave him water that her religion was bullshit and that "salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22).

All his talmidim were Jewish, including Rabbi Shaul haTarsi. He stressed HaShem hasn't forgotten (Romans 11:1) his chosen people (Deuteronomy 7:6). He adds that Jews come first and the goyim after (Romans 1:16, 3:1-2). Also, he was a proud Parush (Philippians 3:5). Contrary to what apostate heretics believe, Yeshua loved them (Matthew 23). He only criticized some for teaching traditions as mitzvot while omitting actual mitzvot. Like in Matthew 15:1-20. Read this passage whole for once.

Shaul said the covenant is eternal and that Mashiah will come from Israel, not from the goyim (Romans 9:3-5). The covenant gives Israel the land (Genesis 17:7-8, Jeremiah 7:7) from the Nile to the Euphrates (Genesis 15:18). Arabs and other Semitic people are not included (Genesis 50:24). Jeremiah 31:31-33 does predict a new covenant... with Jews. Not goyim. Yeshua adds he didn't come to abolish the law (Matthew 5:17). He came to fulfill... prophecies. "Fulfilling the law" is an apostate's way of saying abolishing without owning it.

Goyim are welcome in the new covenant (they were in the old too, see the Book of Ruth). But HaShem wants them to be watchmen for Israel (Ezekiel 33:7). He will judge them for how they treated Jews (Genesis 12:1-3, Joel 3:1-2). A good talmid of Yeshua must:
1. Pray for peace in Jerusalem (Psalms 122:6-7);
2. Make the Jews jealous, not afraid or angry (Romans 11:11);
3. Comfort Jews (Joshua 40:1-2);
4. Help Jews out with money (Romans 15:26-27).

Bonus:
1. Revelations 12 describes Satan attacking Israel. It reuses the symbols from Yosef's dream (Genesis 37:9).
2. Ezekiel 37 describes the rebirth of Israel as a nation after the Holocaust.
Anonymous No.17919829 >>17919886
>>17919672
I don't see how you can interpret Matt 21:42-44 as anything other than Jesus telling the jews to their face tjat they aren't God's chosen people anymore, they don't have any place in Heaven anymore, and what was once theirs now belongs to Gentiles
Anonymous No.17919886
>>17919829
Shalom Akhi b'Yeshua! I will gladly answer your question in order that you grow in Torah and find the Way to HaShem's infinite treasures!

If you look at the context, the solution to your conundrum becomes clear:

Matthew 21:23
>Yeshua entered the temple courts, and, while he was teaching, the chief cohanim and the hakhamim came to him.

This verse establishes who "you" refers to in your cited verses: the chief cohanim and the hakhamim. These are highly revered rabbis, but they do not represent Am Israel in the way you suggest!

Yeshua is more or less threatening them with Karet. Recall that, in Matthew 23:3-4, He warned that the Parushim "do not practice what they preach." Of all the things punishable by Karet, sexual misconduct is easiest to imagine as being rampant in the clergy at that time for Yeshua to confront them about.

Yeshua is thus telling the chief cohanim and hakhamim that, having veered away from the Torah and not repenting and going to mikveh, they will be extirpated from HaShem's plans whilst common, non-priest Jews will not, even if they hold otherwise contemptible positions such as tax collectors and prostitutes. He is taking the "stone" in his quote of Psalm 118 to mean the Torah.

In any case, the "people who will produce [the kingdom of God's] fruits" is nowhere mentioned to be the goyim, and all the context around Yeshua's life suggests it's Israel.

L'hitra'ot!
Anonymous No.17919933 >>17920036
Tokugawa basically eradicated Christianity from Japan, when they began to feel threatened by the Japanese now worshipping God instead of their Emperor, Buddha or ancestor spirits. After a few centuries of repression it then followed State Shintoism and totalitarianism. After Japan got nuked and occupied by America, they secularized pretty quick and no longer really gave a shit about religion. Most Japanese are probably either atheist or agnostic, while still being somewhat adherent to Buddhist or Shintoist traditions. There simply isn't any space for a monotheistic and universal religion in their society. Not to mention the Aum Shinrikyo terrorism in the 1990s completely soured the impression of organized and hierarchical religion for most Japanese.
There still is a Christian community of maybe 1% of the total population, but I'd consider that a marginal factor.
Anonymous No.17920014
>>17918848 (OP)
For a few hundred years Christianity was suppressed because the Jesuits were possibly conspiring with Portugese colonial authorities to push out rival missionaries and to establish Portugese rule over Japan, or at the very least this is what the Japanese came to believe (the English and Dutch convincing them of these fears). It didn't help that the Japanese learned of the Treaty of Tordesillas, wherein Portugal and Spain divided the known and unknown world. On top of this distrust over time, Christians in Japan were sometimes encouraged to destroy temples/shrines and le idols, which regardless of your opinion on the truthfulness of Shintoism/Buddhism this clearly would never endear Christianity to the Three Great Unifiers, who didn't want sectarian struggle disrupting a newly formed and often fragile peace. There were also several Christian revolts that further made the Christians look bad. This eventually led to an outright ban.

In terms of its spread, salvic religions already existed in Japan and had for quite some time. Because of this there was less of an incentive to convert for spiritual reasons. It wasn't a choice of simple pagan emperor worship, like in Europe, or Christianity. It was instead a choice between Buddhist sects, like Nichiren Buddhism and Pure Land Buddhism, and Christianity. The priests often looked down on the Japanese, which somewhat dulled the effect of Christian charity in spreading the religion. There were also errors from the start that meant Christianity had left a bad impression - the first Japanese convert, who taught Xavier some degree of Japanese, tried to translate the term for the Christian God as Dainichi, a Buddha. The missionaries also dressed like Buddhist monks and were introduced as being priests from India. This led to a confusion wherein the Christian God was confused with a Buddha, and when it was corrected the Christians seemed duplicitious.
Anonymous No.17920036
>>17919933
>Most Japanese are probably either atheist or agnostic, while still being somewhat adherent to Buddhist or Shintoist traditions
This is somewhat exaggerated desu, the question as usually asked implies a choice between formal adherence to sects, while in Asia religion has always tended to be more fluid than a binary choice between various religions. There's also the term religion itself as a separate and distinct sphere, which historically it wasn't in Asia (and pre-Christian Europe). You see this same issue with religion in China, religion in many other non-Christian Asian countries.

The census data generally shows ~70% adherence for both Buddhism and Shintoism. If you look at the data where it asks more specific questions about importance of spirituality etc, you get a similar result with almost 70% saying spirituality is important, a growing number of people believing in life after death, etc. Around 66% or so also either have a personal faith, have both a personal and familial faith, have purely a familial faith, or are formal members of religious groups.
So by all accounts its more complicated than most polling commonly shows. There's also, according to the NHK polling, a growing amount of Japanese identifying purely as Buddhist.
Anonymous No.17920037 >>17920297
>>17918848 (OP)
Japan isn’t Christian because Christianity’s core demand (confessing your exclusive faith and trust in Jesus Christ) does not fly with Japan’s religious culture, they put a lot of emphasis orthopraxy (correct practice) over orthodoxy (correct belief).
Shinto and Buddhism in Japan are less about believing and more about performing the right rituals at the right times, so that's seasonal festivals, ancestor veneration, purification rites, the whole nine yards. You can visit a shrine join a Buddhist funeral, and keep household rituals without “believing” in a doctrinal system. Christianity, on the other hand, is about loyalty to a defined theological truth and rejection of other religious frameworks. In Japan that absolutist, belief-centric approach feels alien, disruptive, and unnecessary in a japs eyes to fulfill the social function of religion (social cohesion)
Anonymous No.17920039 >>17920109 >>17920297
>>17918848 (OP)
Honorary Aryans don't like jew worship.
Anonymous No.17920109 >>17920114 >>17920226
>>17920039
Finns do. Their wartime president Kyösti Kallio was a strict and devout Lutheran, who (successfully) advocated for alcohol to be banned, which did indeed happen as Finland had a prohibition period in 1919-1932
Anonymous No.17920114
>>17920109
>Finns
Rape babies
Anonymous No.17920121
>>17918848 (OP)
>Portuguese and Spaniards arrive in Japan and want to trade
>Kapan: k sure
>Portuguese and Spaniards try to convert the population to Christianity and overthrow state Shintoism
>Japan: no fak u
Simple as that, Christianity was suppressed before it could get a real foothold and has been seen as a dirty foreign religion ever since.
Anonymous No.17920226 >>17920563
>>17920109
>who (successfully) advocated for alcohol to be banned
Germans were already doing this as pagans and it has nothing to do with Christianity which involves drinking wine in its central practice
Anonymous No.17920297
>>17920037
white hands wrote this post
>>17920039
jeet hands wrote this post
Anonymous No.17920563 >>17920570 >>17920598
>>17920226
Kallionwas nonetheless an especially devout Christian, and many Finnish Awakening movements have a strictly negative disposition towards alcohol, probably due to the high rates of alcoholism. Even if wine is a central part, they disdain drinking beer and liquor recreationally and in the pursuit of intoxication
Anonymous No.17920570
>>17920563
Not to mention the Laestadian movement; they outright prohibit alcohol from their members, and maybe even watching television.
Anonymous No.17920598
>>17920563
This is confounded, the underlying logic here is that they are tradchuds who hate alcohol and also support the state religion, it is not that one causes the other