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Anonymous No.17919502 >>17919531 >>17919560 >>17919610 >>17919654 >>17919802 >>17919850 >>17919866 >>17919919 >>17920462 >>17920720
Seriously, why does this phenomenon exist? Caesar invaded, murdered and enslaved hundreds of thousands of Celts and yet he's romanticized.
Anonymous No.17919531 >>17919542 >>17919559 >>17919561
>>17919502 (OP)
# of years ago certainly plays a role
+ there is no video about soldiers from pre-modern times talking about their horrific experience
theres a reason why we now see "brought to life"-AI-interviews about the 'caust - because the real people start dying out

also another question: assume you were a ruler back in ancient times and your people came back to you like this - what would you do? Would you make them die (maybe poision them and frame it on someone), would you put them to use? If so - how?
Anonymous No.17919535 >>17920432
Passage of time. Same way Jack the Ripper is now a children's Halloween costume but Dahmer is a monster.
Anonymous No.17919542
>>17919531
> If so - how?
I can imagine that you could use them to work fields, could them have follow a rope or work arm in arm
they could also help tow or carry heavy stuff, saw wood
maybe you could even train them to become disposable Skirmisher
Anonymous No.17919559
>>17919531
>theres a reason why we now see "brought to life"-AI-interviews about the 'caust
I can't believe they are keep pushing that for another hundreds years thanks to AI.
Anonymous No.17919560
>>17919502 (OP)
if it happens to slavs it’s a good thing
Anonymous No.17919561
>>17919531
>theres a reason why we now see "brought to life"-AI-interviews about the 'caust
Huh?
Anonymous No.17919580
killing whites is good, actually
Anonymous No.17919610 >>17919621
>>17919502 (OP)
That's Basil's doing on the pic
Recorded war crimes of Caesar are cutting hands of defenders of certain fort but it should be noted it was written by Hirtius Aulus POSSIBLY after Caesar's assassination with intention to credit himself in the eyes of the senate.
The other one, iirc, was killing of some hostages, what he admitted himself in the Gallic Commentaries and of which he was criticised by the contemporaries.
Few times he "couldn't" stop soldiers from going rampage on defeated enemy but that's pretty normal for the times.
Generally his treatment of the conquered was pretty normal for the time, maybe even slightly more lenient, although he was often looking for a petty pretext to start a conquest.
Anonymous No.17919621 >>17919653
>>17919610
Here’s a list based on historical accounts (mainly Caesar’s own Commentarii de Bello Gallico and later historians):

1. Massacres during the Gallic Wars (58–50 BCE)

Mass killing of the Eburones (53 BCE) – After the Eburones rebelled under Ambiorix, Caesar ordered their total extermination, encouraging neighboring tribes to hunt them down.

Annihilation of the Veneti (56 BCE) – Following a naval victory in Brittany, Caesar executed the Veneti’s ruling class and sold most of the population into slavery.

Carnutes massacre (53 BCE) – In retaliation for a revolt, Caesar’s troops killed large numbers of Carnutes civilians.

2. Collective punishments & enslavement

Caesar repeatedly sold entire tribes into slavery—men, women, and children—after surrender, notably the Helvetii and Atuatuci.

3. Siege of Alesia (52 BCE)

Starvation as a weapon: Caesar’s double-ring fortifications trapped both Vercingetorix’s forces inside and reinforcements outside, leading to the starvation and death of thousands of civilians caught in the city.

Refusal to allow refugees to pass through the lines, causing them to die in no-man’s-land.

4. Civil War actions (49–45 BCE)

Massacre at Pharsalus (48 BCE) – While less indiscriminate than in Gaul, Caesar’s civil war still involved targeted killings of surrendered enemies and confiscation of property.

Siege of Uxellodunum (51 BCE) – After victory, Caesar cut off the hands of all captured defenders to serve as a warning.
Anonymous No.17919653 >>17919809 >>17919849
>>17919621
Is that GPT?
Caesar's envoys presented these records as reports at Senate meeting and somehow everyone thought this is fine, meaning it was pretty normal for the time.
I don't know everything about the Gaullic wars but I can see that some of the points are misrepresented:
>Mass killing of the Eburones (53 BCE)
First Eburones massacred the Roman gararison
>Selling Helvetii and Atuatuci to slavery
Caesar defeated them twice. First time he was lenient, then sold them to slavery.
>Siege of Uxellodunum (51 BCE)
This is what I mentioned. The record was written possibly after Caesar's assasination by Hirtius Aulus (former officer of Caesar) to gain credit.
I'm not saying Caesar was a saint. No. He was looking for war. But he wasn't particularly cruel for the time.
Anonymous No.17919654
>>17919502 (OP)
Great Wars was modern day event
Anonymous No.17919802
>>17919502 (OP)
Modern soldiers are mostly conscripted, they are forced to be participate in wars. In pre-modern times there was no such thing, you went to war at your own will to plunder treasure, so it's hard to feel as much sympathy for them.

By contrast, atrocities done to civilians are seen as horrific no matter when they happened. Nobody thinks that the crusader armies looting villages and raping peasant women was cool.
Anonymous No.17919809
>>17919653
They specifically did NOT think it was fine anon...
Anonymous No.17919849
>>17919653
> But he wasn't particularly cruel for the time.
> for the time
idk man
same can be said about Moustacheman as well
Anonymous No.17919850
>>17919502 (OP)
>horrific war crimes
Evil bastards
>horrific war crimes, pre modern times
Omg! So badass!
Anonymous No.17919866
>>17919502 (OP)
>why
because modern leftism is a farce
Anonymous No.17919919
>>17919502 (OP)
The basil blinding soldiers thing probably didn't happen, the actual logistics of doing something like that would take all day.
Anonymous No.17919942
>murdered and enslaved hundreds of thousands of Celts
Anonymous No.17920204 >>17920240
Because Caesar was military genius and hero of Rome.
Anonymous No.17920240 >>17920716
>>17920204
if he was such a genuius how come he got stabbed?
Anonymous No.17920432
>>17919535
Dahmer is also a Halloween costume
Anonymous No.17920462
>>17919502 (OP)
Both are kind of cool
Anonymous No.17920716
>>17920240
Because he ignored the “Ides of March” soothsayer, and didn't bring his bodyguards that day.
Anonymous No.17920720
>>17919502 (OP)
Because no one gives a shit about what he did to Gaul