Thread 17921980

I really feel the Aryan ancestral blood memory surging through my veins from this unbroken line of Protestant German-American farmers

>>17921980 (OP)
I can name thousands of my ancestors who were Christians. I can’t name a single pagan ancestor. Why should I care about a nameless pagan when I can trace my ancestry to Christian men that I actually know stuff about?

>>17921981
Choose a couple dozens christian ancestors (most of them farmers or other kinds of serfs) or hundreds if not thousands of pagan ancestors (most of them warriors and freemen)?

>>17921989
people who were in the Crusades were pagans? uh...

>>17921989
Nta but what the fuck do you think pagan society was like lmao? This is literally some kind of weird leftist noble savage view of history with a Marxist understanding of their class structures. Also thinking that Christianity magically introduced agriculture kek.

>>17921996
The Viking eruption happened because Scandinavia was overpopulated and had limited farmland so surplus men would be sent on adventures overseas.

>>17922002
Okay? This was also a big reason for the Ostseidlung since the population of Germans quadrupled. Your point is?

>>17921980 (OP)
Oh shit, guess I'll worship jews and brown people now. Checkmate atheitards

>>17921996
>some kind of weird leftist noble savage view of history
You literally think 60 IQ subhumans magically become noble when they accept rabbi jewsus lmao. Your "unbroken line of Protestant German-American farmers" will be brown if they aren't already lol.
>with a Marxist understanding of their class structures
Christianity is marxism 1.0. They are both slave religions. Why are christians such bald-faced liars? Oh that's right, they're jewish

>>17921980 (OP)
Pagans were closer to the earth-mother and thus closer to the TRVE reality.

>>17922076
Stop associating with pagans athetard

>>17922635
prefer the sky father doe

>>17921989
Deluded into thinking most other pagans weren’t slaves and manual farmers themselves. I don’t get why people lie to themselves like this.

>>17921980 (OP)
I can name like a continued line of satanic warlocks, I guess it's settled

>>17921980 (OP)
>>17921981
Protestant Germans were unironically crypto pagans and if you want a religion close your great grandparents neo paganism is the only game in town, since the only Christianity which exists today is largely an American Calvinists post WW2 invention. I suppose you could try coming up with your OC branch of Christianity, but when the defining characteristic of that branch would be crypto paganism and nationalism, i.e. being a very bad christian, becoming neo pagan is a lot simpler and straightforward.

>>17921994
The crusaders were mostly recent Norman converts with idiosyncratic religion, and the Catholic Church had become significantly more tolerant of keeping pagan folk traditions in the 11th century.

>>17922728
Germanic pagans were actually all things considered fairly egalitarian, certainly when compared to serfs.

unironically though

>>17922696
>pagan
This made-up jewish word simply means non-jewish, aka whites, the two are fundamentally associated. Religion is a projection of race. Christians/jews hate both for the same reasons so they might as well be one in the same.

>>17922836
>LARPagan admits he doesn't actually believe in Thor he just worships his skin pigment

>>17922836
Comes from paganus which meant "country dweller." Christianity was an urban religion at first, so it came to mean "non-Christian."

Ironic usage today is two-fold: urbanites tend to be secular, and rural folk more Christian. Nordic religion enthusiasts calling themselves "pagan" is very strange since you are self-identitying with a derogatory Christian term.

The same thing goes with Satanists and "witches," although the former are usually atheists and aware of the irony.

>>17922765
>The crusaders were mostly recent Norman converts with idiosyncratic religion, and
beg pardon? France had been Christian for a good 700 years at that point.

>>17922898
nta, he didnt say he doesnt believe in Thor or that he worships skin pigment (a talking point you brown mexicans seem to love). he said that pagan is a dubious term that christians use for their enemies, which is true, since its rooted in the same words jews use for goyim

>>17922903
just because those words used to be derogatory doesn't mean that they still are nowdays
to most people it just mean not christian/muslin/jew without much negative baggage

>>17922939
>or that he worships skin pigment

>>17922836
>Religion is a projection of race

>>17922976
>Religion is a projection of race
That's a fact. You worship the ethno-supremacist god of another race, you are a spiritual cuckold and slave. I'm not a larpagan, I'm not even religious. Just call me el diablo already or whatever carlos, you're boring

>>17922976
I'm an agnostic but yeah Varg admitted he's an atheist.

>>17923018
>I'm an agnostic
so a coward who thinks fence sitting is a belief?
>but yeah Varg admitted he's an atheist
Varg isn't the neopagan Pope, dumbass.

Has it been proven without a shadow of a doubt and without double speak that the word "aryan" is related to Germans in any way?

>>17923020
>so a coward who thinks fence sitting is a belief?

still better than worshiping primitive ooga booga gods your ancestors abandoned over 1,000 years ago

>>17923020
>so a coward who thinks fence sitting is a belief?
NTA but that's not what agnosticism is. A true fence-sitting belief would just be Apatheism. Agnosticism is actually closer to hard atheism since it asserts that the nature of God or whether or not he exists can never be known. People who treat agnosticism like it's a middle-of-the-road position are mentally retarded

>>17923034
>ooga booga gods
You worship the literal ooga booga god of nomadic desert barbarians lol. Christianity is judaism wearing a "pagan" skinsuit

>>17923045
Well no I'm an agnostic, I can't say for sure if gods exist or not.

>>17923065
again, you are a cowardly fence sitter

"Agnostics are atheists without balls."

-- Stephen Colbert

>>17923069
if you ask an agnostic hard enough you'll get him to admit in most cases that he's agnostic about the KKKhristian god but absolutely an atheist about all other gods/religions.

>>17923065
Agnosticism isnt better than native european religion, for all intents and purposes. Unless you're jewish/christian

>>17923065
>I can't say for sure if gods exist or not.
You mean you think it's impossible to know if God exists or not, not that you can't be sure. Soft Atheists can't be sure, but leave themselves open to the idea of God if he can be explained in a logical and naturalistic way.

>>17923073
Isn't he that guy who got fired from his TV show or something?

Christianity served its purpose at one time but it is obsolete in the future of scientific atheism and socialism. As for pagan cults, those are simply rudiments of a barbarous age and it would be laughable to go back to that.

>>17923085
>2025
>believing in Marxist historical progression pseudoscience

>>17923085
>>17923089
Why couldn't Marx just be a Deist instead like the rest of the Enlightenment and Classical Liberal figures he took inspiration from?

>>17923085
>As for pagan cults, those are simply rudiments of a barbarous age and it would be laughable to go back to that
If you asked Varg he thinks ooga booga shit is real European culture which Meds corrupted.

>>17923096
at least he's logically consistent

>thread about LARPaganism
>somehow turns into an argument about agnostics being cowards

my ancestors were pre-literate before Christianity nobody even knows tf they worshiped there's no written records

Agnostics are cowards. I'm glad more people are acknowledging this

>>17923107
Most Agnostics are just confused Atheists or confused Apatheists

most agnostic women are also whores. not sure if they believe in god, not sure if they believe in nothing. just like theyre not sure if they wanna suck this cock or suck that cock

again, there are thousands of gods attested to in history yet 90% of agnostics are only "uncertain" about the Christian god and are absolutely sure none of the rest exist

>>17922905
WHERE DO YOU THINK THE FUCKING NORMANS (NORTH MEN) CAME FROM HOLY SHIT

>>17923141
By the time of the Crusades they had lived in France for a good 200 years and were fully assimilated into French society.

>>17923079
>native European religion
You're not white or European, Sandeep.

>>17921989
>or hundreds if not thousands of pagan ancestors (most of them warriors and freemen)?
every place in Europe at this point is Christian for longer than it ever was pagan. the Norse gods were only worshiped for about 400 years in total.

>>17921981
>forgotten history you can rediscover actually doesnt exist and should be disregarded
congrats, you dismissed the entire point of history on the history board.

>>17921980 (OP)
white christians feel their pagan ancestors through christianity because they were the ones who shaped christian culture There is tons of germanic paganism in christianity.. Too bad they are still intent on worshipping the jew gods.

>>17923386
thatll be your little secret.

>>17923445
Jews didn't actually exist until the Middle Ages and specifically as a reaction against Christianity.

>>17923445
>>17923490
amerilards are embarrassing

>>17923386
BTW unless you are of Scandinavian heritage your ancestors did not worship the Norse gods anyway.

LARPagans come in two types: if female usually landwhales with green hair and nose rings that are into Wicca and cast "protective" spells on abortion clinics and if male usually sexless incels who are into some kind of Warhammer 40k LARP.

>be Varg
>define "white race" so narrowly that only some Baltic people qualify and even he himself isn't white by his own definition
>set fire to a church and in doing so destroy 1,000 year old pagan carvings
>live on France on welfare and do nothing but spam SM all day

>>17921981
>I can name thousands of my ancestors who were Christians. I can’t name a single pagan ancestor.
this is fine for top goys btw

>>17923497
no shit nigger, mine worship anglo-saxon gods which are the same as norse gods but with different names. my continental germanic ancestors worshiped continental germanic gods. why is this so hard for you retards to understand?

>>17923506
warhammer is overwhelmingly a christian sperg hobby of choice and you know it. warhammer memes are part of what built your little circle of gay terminally online and biblically illiterate autists

>>17923716
>my continental germanic ancestors worshiped continental germanic gods
Germans were pre-literate pre-Christianity so nobody knows what they worshiped anyway.

>>17924383
Yes, yes Varg is indeed seething.

>>17923497
The Norse god were just the Roman gods which Norse traders brought back and localized.

>>17921980 (OP)
The only reason people think paganism is cool is because all knowledge of it is lost so you can pretend that it's whatever you want it to be. If we actually had preserved pagan practices everyone would think it's cringe and retarded like any other abrahamic or eastern religion.

>>17924421
it's just meaningless "familiarity brings contempt." all East Asian religions have numerous critiques of them you just don't know them because of the language barrier.

>>17924415
/thread

The Romans already suppressed local cults and imposed the Roman state gods wherever they went so...meh.

>>17923720
>be warhammer
>explicitly mock reactionary stagnation, nurgle is identical to jesus
>some people take this as endorsement of christianity
What causes this level of stupidity?

>>17924456
What other religion is like Christianity in that it's centered on:
1. Pederasty.
2. Transgenderism.
3. Giving money to the jews.
4. Lies.

>>17924741
Any democratic/liberal civilization in the 40k universe would had fallen to Chaos within weeks. The "bigoted" Imperium still stand even after a thousand years

>>17924383
My ancestors were "civilized" by the Franks who were other Germanics. Not Romans.

>>17924771
Many probably *were* Franks.

>>17923105
Same

>>17924758
Sure because 40k is technology pessimistic. Doesn't really change the fact that in the setting the more reactionary the society the worse it is. Compare Heresy era imperium to 40th millenium imperium. Also you haven't addressed at all how analogous Nurgle is to Christianity.

>>17923403
>reading about my ancestors I know about vs making things up and larping
One is history, the other isn’t.

>>17921989
I can actually trace my ancestry to prominent people, but even without that, most of my ancestors were Christian. There have surely been more Christian ancestors since the 400s than pagans from before. Mathematically, there are millions of Christians I’m descended from. Were there even a million people total in Pagan Britain? I doubt it. The majority of my ancestors, and yours, were surely Christians. Why am I trying to exalt a minority of my ancestors that I can’t even name?

>>17923516
Can you trace your ancestry to a pagan? Or are you just making shit up and pretending?

>>17925033
You absolutely have more ancestors who weren't Christian than those who were, every Christian does, even if the world is only 6000 years old. That ridiculous notion still means that all your ancestors for at least 4000 years were NOT Christian, and as you go back each generation the number of ancestors in each cohort grows larger. Two parents, four grandparents, eight great grandparents...

If you accept evolution as the process by which life came to be what it is (or how God created things), the number of ancestors is much higher. 110 Billion is the number of modern humans who have already died according to some estimates.

>>17926100
Meant for >>17925024
Sorry.

>>17921981
>>17921980 (OP)
Ancestor worship=copying your ancestors
Your ancestors didn't have the information, didn't know better.