Thread 17922305

How come there aren’t more Japanese or Korean fanboys of ancient Chinese civilization like Han dynasty, kind of like how there are Romeaboos in Anglo/Germanic and Slavic countries who think of themselves as filthy barbarians civilized by the glorious bigger antique civilization?

After all, ancient Greece and Rome is to western civilization as China is to eastern. How else did Confucianism, Zen Buddhism, and onions sauce spread?

>>17922305 (OP)
how come there wasn’t a japanese equivalent to edward gibbons?

Those kinds of Germanics and Slavs tend to be uneducated and actually visualise the Roman Empire as white and looking like themselves. Ancient Chinese dynasties are fully understood as being the Chinese nation, which everyone hates for an abundance of reasons, so no one particularly respects them.

I can think of a few anime based on both Rot3K and Journey to the West

If rome still existed today euros would like them a lot less the indonesians genocided their han minority

>>17922305 (OP)
Chun Li is like the sexiest character design ever.

>>17922309
>Ancient Chinese dynasties are fully understood as being the Chinese nation
Wasn't there a theory in the Edo Japan that all the ancient Chinese were slaughtered and raped by nomads and therefore modern (at that time) Chinese have no relation to Ancient population of China? As far as I know, this theory was also very popular in the interwar period.

>>17922309
Gibbons would see no reason to write his books if the roman empire still existed

>>17922305 (OP)
Are their languages interchangeable enough for them to even interact? Is there a lingua France among east Asians ?Like I’m not sure their Internet spheres overlap.

>>17922536
Classical chinese used to be until the 20th century, at least in written form

>>17922373
Interesting how Western Europeans theorized very similar things about the Greeks.

>>17922319
Mediterraneans are white today. Not all whites are Nordic.

>>17922592
Even now, Japanese and Chinese can communicate at a pidgin level using kanji/hanzi. (Well, maybe pidgin level isn't quite right- quite a bit of vocabulary but little grammar in common, so they'd have to just throw words together and hope the idea gets across.) Especially since they both still study Classical Chinese in school even if not many are still proficient in it.

>>17922602
Germanics and Slavs can believe this in theory as long as they are far away but once their town gets flooded with Italians they protest because they are obviously brown and foreign.

>>17922365
>>17922305 (OP)
Imagine part 3 Suzie Q dressing chun li outfit (before Capcom copy) and a peaked hamon mastered

>>17922305 (OP)
China only very recently became rich enough to produce expensive cultural products. It's cultural wave is still rising right now.
There are xianxia webnovels, manhua, donghua (anime), TV dramas inspired by Daoist philosophy. Even Western writers pick it up.
Chinese period costume TV dramas already surpassed everyone, at least in terms of scale, practical and computer FX.

Reverse is also true.
Funny how Japanese term Zen is more popular than Chinese Chan.
Mainland China piggybacks on Hong Kong achievements in cinema, so Hans are cantonboos. Like Jackie Chan is a total CCP shill.
China claims barbarian heritage as well. Now Mulan is a Han, Mongols and Manchus are Hans too, qipao is a Chinese wear.
>>17922323
Also there is a Japanese manga/anime Kingdom about Chinese Warring States

>>17922626
yes but the problem is a lot of these pop culture exports are practically nothing more than japanese-derivatives

>>17922683
Or they seem that way to you because you were exposed to the (Chinese-originating) archetypes and tropes in Japanese media first. Chinese literature and culture have been hugely influential in Japan for centuries.

>>17922305 (OP)
>Why isn’t sinobooism a phenomenon across East Asia?
Japan's and Korea's entire cultures are based on China's culture.

>>17922305 (OP)
because Chinese are like the borg from Star Trek.

>>17922305 (OP)
That's literally just their traditional culture.
Kimonos and Hanbuks are literally just copies of Chinese clothing

>>17922305 (OP)
bump

>>17922622
>part 3 Suzie Q
Don't know who or what that is