Thread 17923565

What steps needed to happen to get homosexuality to be seen as okay?

Reason why I ask is because I want zoosexaulity to follow those same footsteps.

Step 1: decline of Christianity and rise of atheism

>Lesbians
stop trying to turn every woman into a lesbian and making, saying men are awful, your entire personality.
>Men
stop with the weird bdsm parades and realize an anus is more disgusting than a cock whether you are a man or a woman.

its really not that hard.

>>17923568
What's step 2? we already did step 1.
>>17923578
based. but it has nothing to do with zoophillia being legalized.

I deleted my post because I didnt realize the thread wasn't about LGBT advocacy but really about OP being a fucking zoophile. no im not reading your reply OP.

>>17923597
There is no step 2

>>17923568
Isn't it the opposite? The catechism literally says to respect and have compassion for them, and to include them in the social fabric and not to despise or be rude to them. A gay person in Christianity would not be killed or ostracized.

>>17923609
What catechism would that be, sir? Is it perhaps that you are aware historic Christianity always supported the death penalty for sodomy and you're just being radically dishonest-- maybe because you don't have a worldview that can provide you with moral standards, like it being wrong to be gay?

>17923609
God nuked a city in the Old Testament because it was full of buttfucking faggots. This informed Christian treatment of sodomy, not whatever lies you're using to try and farm (you)s.

>>17923606
>>17923614
>>17923616
Okay guys. Christ is king and all that, but that doesn't help me understand what still needs to happen to get zoosexaulity legalized.

>>17923628
just keep going with the moral relativism and it’ll work out

>>17923616
It may very well have been destroyed because of rape and pedophilia, not homosexuality. That interpretation is actually compelling in my opinion.

>>17923616
Yeah well God was a major dick in OT, he ordered genocides and sanctioned child slavery and pedophilia for his people as long as it was done to an opposing tribe.

>>17923565 (OP)
Only women are allowed to do it, chud

>>17923614
>always supported the death penalty for sodomy
Haven't you read the catechism? No priest has stated this and there is no such thing in the catechism. You argue that the OT laws are no longer applicable.

>A considerable number of men and women have deep-seated homosexual tendencies. This objectively disordered propensity constitutes a trial for most of them. They should be welcomed with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Any sign of unjust discrimination should be avoided. These people are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite the difficulties they may encounter due to their condition with the sacrifice of the Lord's cross.

>>17923715
People said the same about homosexuality too but here we are

>>17923614
He is actually correct, only islam is intelligent enough to know that there is no way to welcome these people, Catholics basically look at a fruitless and rotten tree and try to water it day after day and try to cut the weak branches with the hope that this tree will bear fruit, Muslims, on the other hand, know that unfortunately some trees will never bear fruit and are just taking up unnecessary space in the orchard, and they are defective trees i.e. evil should be cut out by the root.

>>17923719
>They should be welcomed with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Any sign of unjust discrimination should be avoided
Catholic sisters? Our answer? We can't despise deviants and treat them as they are??? No jokes or malicious comments... that gay person you know, you should respect and treat well
it's over
>>17923726
great post

Catholicism was the first anti-homophobia institution in history, change my mind
academic and historical tip, you can't
t: Catholic

>>17923565 (OP)
>What steps needed to happen to get homosexuality to be seen as okay?
Urbanization, industrialization, modernization, economic productivity, and the decline of agricultural civilization. It's a not a coincidence that modern urban metropoles are more "tolerant" of gays and lesbians than rural areas. In the U.S., only around 1.5% of people are involved in agriculture today. Anyhow, this freed people up to live more autonomous sexual lives. People can no longer be bound by these older values.

People who live a homosexual lifestyle could begin clustering in these urban areas and they formed a kind of parallel society which wasn't possible in the more tightly-knit rural agricultural communities. While they could still be treated as pariahs, eventually they stopped giving a fuck, and it's often the case that only when you stop caring what other people think about you that you begin to gain respect from others.

At the root of it, though, is changing socio-economic relations. The LGBT culture is now a global lifestyle and entertainment industry:
https://youtu.be/jBCkILM3jFo

But that is not possible without:
https://youtu.be/yfgs9FRD25M

>>17923726
>He is actually correct, only islam is intelligent enough to know that there is no way to welcome these people
Well, Islam has not successfully managed this transition yet. But over the long term, I think Islam will decline or it will adapt, otherwise the Muslim countries will continue to lag behind, more likely to experience further internal armed conflicts, more likely to suffer defeats at the hands of outsiders, and so on.

You know the largest gay dating app in the world is a Chinese company? China is a funny place because the government has a policy of no approval (but no disapproval either) of homosexuality. They try to strike a middle path there. But the reason this app is possible is because China has rapidly modernized, and they have software companies that can develop this thing for gay Asian men.

You could learn how to make software. Or you could spend all your time studying the Quran. See which one works out better for your society over the long run. Maybe Islam is right and they're wrong. But who gets messed with less? Do you see foreign fighter jets flying over Chinese airspace uncontested while you're sitting down at the ground praying for God to save you?

>>17923609
Being against homosexuality doesn't equals to being mean to a homosexual, faggot