Thread 17926723

Isaiah 45:7 is the Bible verse that best and most nakedly shows God's true nature. It's also not very pretty or light and fluffy sounding, so Christians hardly ever post it.

still much too aggrandizing

pic related sums up the jewish religion

>>17926723 (OP)
In essence, Isaiah 45:7 highlights God's ultimate authority and control over all aspects of existence, both positive and negative, while acknowledging that human choices can also lead to consequences.

>>17926728
Right, but it also quickly dispels the childish notion that YHWH is a loving father.

Who doesn't believe that, of course God creates evil. But evil does not mean sin, it just means something bad happening to people.

>>17926731
God is really loving with those who love him. He is really innocent so there is no point in accusing him of malice. There's no malice in him. He's more innocent than a child, wiser than an ancient man and more powerful than 10 billion armies.

It is really pleasant to be in his presence, he is the most beautiful being in existence, such that the mind cannot comprehend the beauty it is beholding, he smells more amazing than the greatest of fragrances, and his light emits inmense joy and bliss to those who dwell in it. But the wicked will be kept far away from him though they will beg to be with him until their last breath.

>>17927397
>You're of free of taking your own choices, you can love me or hate me, it's completely a free election,

>But if you don't love me I will throw you to hell so you receive an eternal punishment and torture

>but remember I love you

Yeah, a loving father

>>17927362
>But evil does not mean sin
Yes it does. If God willed no child would ever be raped by a pedophile again, it would never happen again. Yet it happens every day.

>>17927951
You are confusing natural evil with moral evil. I don't know how many more times I'm going to have to post this.

>>17927879
>but remember I love you
That's where you're wrong. If you want God to love you then be righteous.

>>17928674
It's a made up meaningless distinction

>>17929753
Suddenly Christianity is works based again. You idiots can't get your story straight, it changes depending who you're arguing with

>>17929760
>every Christian is a Calvinist
Retard

>>17929787
I'm not a Christian of any kind anymore but Calvinism is the only version of Christianity that is at least logically consistent.

>>17927397
Loving only those that like you is easy; whatever yhwh is it's not the God Jesus prayed to

>>17929819
This. Jesus was sent by a God from an entirely different level of reality. Even outside of it completely.

>>17929757
You don't understand English, anon.

>>17929803
>Calvinism is the only version of Christianity that is at least logically consistent
If you worship Satan yes

>>17929946
Calvinists are the only Christians who understand what the words omnipotence and omniscience mean, so of course they know the Bible god is evil. They're the only Christians who can admit that.

>>17929999
>so of course they know the Bible god is evil.
You are wrong, anon.

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
- James 1:17

>>17930011
>verse says the opposite of what is observably true to everyone

CHECK MATE GOD HATERS.

>>17930018
You're just defining the bad things you see as God, so you are creating a negative mental framework. This leads to hubris and nemesis.