Thread 17926795

Did older patrician Roman women keep tall blonde haired blue eyed young men of Nordo-Germanic descent as pets? Just wondering...

>>17926795 (OP)
>he's a sub in his racial supremacist sexual fantasies
Bro what

>>17926795 (OP)
HBO Rome tells us they kept pets with BBC

>>17926795 (OP)
>“Generally speaking, a woman who intends to work as a prostitute does so by going to the city Aediles, and giving her name, age and place of birth. She then picks a pseudonym that will be her working name, since most families prefer that a working girl abandons her original family name. The Aedile then gives the woman her licence, and makes a rough assessment of what she should charge. (This is not free advice – it’s because she is expected to pay tax on that amount per customer.)”
>“The historian Tacitus remarked with outraged horror the story of an aristocratic woman called Visitilia who, facing punishment for her numerous affairs, evaded the law by simply applying for a prostitute’s licence (licentia stupri). When the Aediles could find no reason not to give it to her, she carried on as she had before, but now charged for it.”

>>17926795 (OP)
romans considered blonde hair an attribute of prostitutes, and those who were not natural blonde dyed their hair blonde. messalina was said to prostitute herself and putting a blonde wig and coating her nipples with gold paint, as it was custom among whores.

>>17926803
Cope.

Did any slave owner women ever use tickling as a punishment

>>17926795 (OP)
are you a poojeet?
is this just lack of exposure to white people?
I think romans would've had more exposure than you and they wouldn't treat blonde, blue eyed people as such a fascinating wonder
>>17926808
>be me
>12yo watching rome
>mom decides to come in my room for the first time in months
>it's EXACTLY when the camera is centered on a big black cock FOR SOME FUCKING REASON!

>>17926795 (OP)
Something like that. We now know the the Senatorial and Equestrian classes had very high Germanic admixtures and were basically "Gaulic", which can be seen in their lighter features. This wouldn't have been as crazy as it sounds considering "Good Ol' Fashion" Romans were low-grade eugenicists. Not quite Spartan levels of "take my wife b/c you're pp is bigger than mine", but close. Being someone's "Father" was more of a legal designation and people could be "adopted" at any time and age. If you had a choice between a Golden God carrying on your name, or some swarthy Med turd, it's no contest.

Every one on Earth "prefers" blondes. Everyone. The Celts and Norse would lime rinse their hair to make it lighter and all gods in IE religions are "light", "bright", "golden", "radiant", "fair-haired", "clear-eyed", "ivory-armed", etc......

There is nothing divine about being "colored". Not now. Not ever.

>>17926965
>There is nothing divine about being "colored". Not now. Not ever.
you're obsessed, pablo
stop hating yourself
>Every one on Earth "prefers" blondes. Everyone.
this is verifiably false
so much so it's weird you even went ahead and wrote it

>>17926931
Ahh, so the whiter the woman in ancient Rome, the greater the freedom she enjoyed. Interesting....

>>17926795 (OP)
No, they kept shotas from various corners of the empire as their pets exclusively.

>>17926936
>look at my fetish, it's "just" interracial I swear
>please ignore my mentions of being enslaved to an older woman

>>17927057
Whats your fetish, being enslaved to an older man? Faggot.

>>17926965
Cope again.

>A good example of racial patrician type is the famous portrait bust of Lucius Junius Brutus, the founder of the Roman Republic, which dates from the fourth century BC, who had brown eyes and an aquiline nose like most Italians

You do not know what "beauty" means, "subflavum" means "dirty blond" or "almost blond", caesaries mean "hairy or dark hair". The sources of Malalas are not reliable since all his work is not trustworthy. Karl Krumbacher, Malalas works as amateurish in both method and composition, assumed to be written for the Byzantine masses JB Bury wrote that Malalas had produced a work with "no sense of proportion" and "many blunders" which was written down to the level of the masses. Only Dinaric and Alpine are found within the cranial composition Italic. There is no "Nordic" phenotype within the composition. Mediterranean phenotypes are found within the Etruscans and the Severian dynasty as Septimus Severus and also in Philip the Arab. In the reconstruction of original color of Augustus of Prima Porta he have Ginger Hair and brown eyes, in the bronze bust he have brown eyes. The bust bronze bust of Hadrian shows brown eyes refuting the Malalas sources. The Romans resemble genetically the modern central italians (excluded Rome) like Tuscany, Lazio, .............. The words used to describes the Germans blondism and light eyes are totally different from those roman sources, knowing that there's a difference beetwen the pigmentation of Nordics and Romans. Plutarch even says Sulla had khrusopon (Latin word for blond, not xanthos) hair that "gave him a singular appearance", that is, that he was different from all other Roman emperors.

>>17927064
Also: Roman sculpture literally glorified the ugliness of the Patrician Elders.

>Verism was a highly realistic artistic style of Roman art. It was principally used in portraits of politicians, whose facial imperfections were exaggerated to highlight their maturity, experience, and gravitas. The word comes from Latin verus (true).

>Verism emerged as an artistic style in the late Roman Republic (147–30 BC) and was often used for Republican portraits or on heads of “pseudo-athlete” sculptures. Verism placed great emphasis on the effects of age and imperfections--wrinkles, furrows, and even warts were depicted clearly and exaggerated to indicate of a well-used, active mind and virtues like dignity, gravity, and authority, which were markers of status. Age during the Late Republic was very highly valued and was synonymous with power, since one of the only ways to hold power in Roman society was to be part of the Senate

>Verism first appeared during the Late Republic. The subjects of veristic portraiture were almost exclusively men, and these men were usually of advanced age, for generally it was elders who held power in the Republic. However, women are also seen in veristic portraiture, though to a lesser extent, and they too were almost always depicted as elderly. A key example of this is a marble head found at Palombara, Spain. Carved between 40 BC and 30 BC, during the decade of the civil war that followed Julius Caesar's assassination, the woman's face shows her advanced age. The artist carved the woman with sunken cheeks and pouches under her eyes to illustrate her age, much like male veristic portraiture of the time

>Verism, while the height of fashion during the Late Republican era, quickly fell into obscurity when Augustus and the rest of the Julio-Claudian dynasty (44 BC-68 AD) came to power. During this imperial reign, Greek Classical sculpture that featured "eternal youth" was favored over verism

>>17927073
>It wasn't until after the suicide of Nero in 68 AD that verism was revived

>During the Year of the Four Emperors (68-69 AD) that resulted from Nero's suicide, when Galba, Vitellius, and Otho all grappled for the throne, verism made a resurgence, as seen in obverse portraits of Galba on bronze coins or marble busts of Vitellius. When Vespasian and his sons came to the throne the Flavian dynasty harnessed verism as a source of propaganda. Scholars believe that Vespasian used the shift from the Classical style to that of veristic portraiture to send a visual propagandistic message distinguishing him from the previous emperor. Vespasian's portraits showed him as an older, serious, and unpretentious man who was in every respect the anti-Nero: a career military officer concerned not for his own pleasure but for the welfare of the Roman people, the security of the Empire, and the solvency of the treasury. Like the Romans from the Late Republic, Vespasian used veristic busts to underscore traditional values as a way to indicate to the Roman people a connection to the Republic. With this reminder of the Late Republic, many Roman citizens were likely put at ease, knowing Vespasian was truly not like the previous emperor Nero, who represented everything the Republic abhorred. Yet after the Flavian period verism again faded into obscurity

>>17927073
Yesterday a video of young Allegri popped up on my Instagram and I thought that he looked a lot like those Julius Caesar statues

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ks3suF0vzfo

Romans looked down on anglos that is a historical fact

There was even a point where they made it a law that prostitutes should dye their hair blonde just to insult their white enemies

>>17926803
I'm a german twink and I'd love to get spanked by a roman aristomom.

>>17926965
Ancient Romans had like the complete opposite of ''germanic'' traits lol: curly hair (germans tend to have straight hair), aquiline noses (germans tend to have shorter noses with higher foreheads), normal to big sized eyes (germans tend to have smaller hooded eyes), Romans also lacked the wide faces and high cheekbones you can see on a lot of Germans/Scandis. No roman statue looked even remotely close to pic related, statues of actual nordic/germanic people

>>17926795 (OP)
Yes they also made them dress up as girls and pegged them.

>>17926936
why do the computer generated faces have black hair while the romans in the fresco have brown hair?

>>17927122
>Romans looked down on anglos that is a historical fact
its not a historical fact because anglos didn't exist before the fifth century you absolute mong.
>pic
ah yes a Greek person talking about scythians, an iranic people, is totally relevant to anglos

>>17926795 (OP)
iirc roman men literally did this

roman women received little attention from their own men

>>17926931
>People whose goal is to look beautiful color their hair in the color of the beauty ideal
>"eeehhh they are a whores we wuz imperatorios and sheeeit eeeehhh tone"

>>17926795 (OP)
They would frequently denigrate the Germanic men for being crude and uncivilized while smoking cigarettes and showering, forcing them to observe and at times even suck on her toes. The Latin "balnea mater" became an insult to women who practiced this with their Germanic slaves (very common).

>>17927401
roman men were playing a whole different game

>>17926795 (OP)
>my fantasy is getting an olive oil reach around from my senator's wife milf mistress
>your fantasy is to geld yourself, take mind altering pills, and parade around in hot topic outfits
>we are not the same

>>17926795 (OP)
This is somehow one of the most lust-provoking pictures I've seen on this website.

>>17926803
this is a common fantasy they have.
look up who the biggest consumer populations are for giantess/femdom pornography
>>17927711
that's literally how it is though and tony soprano would agree

>>17927930
It was getting ruthlessly conquered and sexually used by Amazonian steppe women that twisted the Nord's mind.

>>17926795 (OP)
i think only the roman men did this

>>17928066
It would be uniquely humiliating if an atistocratic med femboy did this. Could you imagine? Haha that would be bad.

No, sorry friend. But they did keep slaves from exotic lands.

>>17927007
DNA proves me right and you wrong.

Roman Emperors also exclusively used German bodyguard, just like the Byzantines and everyone else ;)


There are MANY academic articles revealing the "surprisingly high" amount of N. Euro. DNA among the Imperial Elite.

Anything BC is irrelevant and they had essentially no meaningful contact up to that point, but once Augustus FAFO'd every Med Pig began worshiping BWC, and they still do ;)

Do people get plastic surgery to look "More Mediterranean"? No, not now, not ever ;)

Go suck on an olive sub-human brownoids!

>>17928001
>Amazonian steppe "women"
good joke
"Warrior" "women" from the steppe were either 1. trannies, or 2. whores who won loyalty through sex and wore their partners' armors.

>>17928676
cope, you got pegged and you liked it

>>17928647
>There are MANY academic articles revealing the "surprisingly high" amount of N. Euro. DNA among the Imperial Elite.

There are no "Imperial Elite" samples since the Roman elite was cremated, is shamelessly lying a "Germanic" trait?
The Roman Imperial samples we do have cluster closer to the Eastern Mediterranean than Northern Europe

>>17928647
>>17928780
This is the closest thing to elite samples.

>>17928647
>Roman Emperors also exclusively used German bodyguard, just like the Byzantines
rulers terrified of putting people with loyalty to some other noble family in positions with the most ability to kill them tend to hire foreigners with loyalty only to the ruler, no shit
it had nothing to do with who was "racially superior" or more attractive. its the same reason arab rulers tended to have turkic bodyguards. so are turks now the height of beauty?

>>17927819
Based.

>>17926931
That’s because any Roman who had blon hair or almost any would have had to have dyed it, it would be the equivalent to what purple hair is now

>>17927186
>Iranic
no such word exists. That's Iranian.

Turkish/Turkic classification makes sense, because the ethnic Turkish and the ethnic Turkic are the different stuffs.
The ethnic Iranians and the ethnic ""Iranics"" are the same thing on the other hand.
>B... but, Iranians in Islamic republic of Iran are only a part of the Iranics
They have never made up an ethnicity "Iranian" to distinguish Iranians inside and outside of historical Persia.
Sogdians, Khwarazmians, and Scythians are all Iranians.

>>17930815
Cringe.

>>17926965
>Every one on Earth "prefers" blondes
The Asians and Latinos don't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_sexuality#White_women
>Rey Chow in 1991 argued that the fetishism of white women in Chinese media has nothing to do with sex. Chow describes it as a type of commodity fetishism. White women, according to Chow, are seen as a representation of what China does not have: an image of a woman as something more than the heterosexual opposite to man

>Perry Johansson in 1999 argued that following the globalization of China, the perception of Westerners changed drastically. With the Opening of China to the outside world, representations of Westerners shifted from enemies of China to individuals of great power, money, and sophistication. Chinese advertisements depict Western women as symbols of strength. The body language of Chinese models in ads expresses shyness and docility, while the body language of Western women demonstrates power and unashamedness. The study suggested White women are even presented with qualities otherwise considered to be "masculine" in Chinese culture

>According to a 2014 study of Swedish women in Singapore, white women are not fetishized in East Asia, but placed beneath Asian women in the beauty hierarchy. European racial characteristics such as blond hair desexualized Swedish women in Singapore, and made them feel less feminine. Furthermore, their Swedish husbands found local Taiwanese women highly attractive, contributing to the low self esteem of the Swedish women

>According to Erica Lorraine Williams, White women in Brazil are considered less attractive than women of color. White Brazilian women have complained that foreign male sex tourists are not interested in them, and that these men prefer nonwhite women over White Brazilian women. For this reason, White Brazilian women struggle to compete for the money of male sex tourists