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Anonymous No.17927051 >>17927055 >>17927078 >>17927248 >>17927262 >>17928259
What if Islam never existed existed
>The Middle East
The lands that were already Christian before the Islamic conquests such as Anatolia, the Levant, and North Africa would remain Christian, so I don't think much needs to be discussed here.

Arab paganism was never going to survive. They were already moving towards some form of monotheism (there were sizable Christian and Jewish communities in pre-Islamic Arabia) before the rise of Islam and if Islam never existed, the Arabs would have eventually converted to Christianity (most likely the Syriac rite since Christians in pre-Islamic Arabia and most Arab Christians today follow the Syriac rite, the Arabic script itself deprives from the Syriac script, and most Christian influences on Islam come from Syriac rite Christianity)

Prior to their conversion to Islam, Iran was predominantly Zoroastrian and without Islam they would have remained Zoroastrian. They never converted to Christianity (and never would have even if Islam didn't exist) because unlike paganism which Christianity had easily replaced, Zoroastrianism actually had a unified theology and priesthood as well as actual moral teachings instead of just "sacrifice a goat to this god and hope they make it rain or something".

The Turkic migrations still happen of course. But instead of converting to Islam (which doesn't exist in this timeline), they convert to Zoroastrianism. The reason they converted to Islam in our timeline was due to their interactions with Iran (which was majority Muslim) and if Iran remains Zoroastrian in this timeline, the Turks would convert to Zoroastrianism.
Anonymous No.17927055
>>17927051 (OP)
Pre-Islamic Afghanistan followed a wide variety of religions such as Hinduism, Greek paganism, Zoroastrianism, etc. But the largest of these was Buddhism and without Islam, Buddhism would eventually supplant the rest as the dominant religion.

Prior to their conversion to Islam, the lands that correspond with modern-day Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Brunei, and Indonesia were predominantly Hindu and without Islam, they would have remained Hindu.
Anonymous No.17927078 >>17928474
>>17927051 (OP)
Byzzies take over Iberia and establish an oppressive, slaving, boy diddling regime
Byzzies try to invade the Franks and get btfo
Byzzies raid the lands around Rome a couple of times
Byzzies fall apart because muh Icons, muh trinity, muh eucharist and other such nonsense instrumentalized by local governors in Syria, Egypt, Iberia and the Levant
Meds fight a lot of wars with Persians, T*rks and Mongolians
Euros invade the levant to purge heresy (secure muh trade routes)
Turkish Beys in Anatolia establish themselves as the ruling class over the Byzantines and take over the Balkans
They get btfo at Vienna by the Germans

It would be the same shit but slavery would have disappeared/lost its relevancy centuries earlier and a lot more men would have a foreskin now.
Anonymous No.17927135 >>17928538
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_of_Byzantium
Anonymous No.17927248
>>17927051 (OP)
>what if
that would be great
Anonymous No.17927262
>>17927051 (OP)
Eastern Europe would be full of Asiatic mongrels like In Tartarstan because the Kipchak Turks would eventually convert to Christianity and mingle with the Slavs.
Anonymous No.17928257
No Mughal Empire and the Renaissance is delayed.
Anonymous No.17928259
>>17927051 (OP)
Spain-jeets would still be white
Anonymous No.17928452
Middle east would be the first world area instead of Europe/North America
Anonymous No.17928474
>>17927078
>Byzzies raid the lands around Rome a couple of times
Why would they do this?
>Byzzies fall apart because muh Icons, muh trinity, muh eucharist
All of these were non issues
>and other such nonsense instrumentalized by local governors in Syria, Egypt, Iberia and the Levant
Church conflict was by the bishops and Emperors. There was never a case were a governor was ever relevant in this.
>Turkish Beys in Anatolia establish themselves as the ruling class over the Byzantines and take over the Balkans
Why exactly would that ever happen?
Anonymous No.17928538
>>17927135
reading this tonight, thanks anon