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Anonymous No.17927462 >>17927479 >>17927486 >>17927531 >>17927575 >>17927600 >>17928985 >>17928986
Communism in America
What is the history of communism in the US?
Anonymous No.17927479
>>17927462 (OP)
well first "communists" were just anarchists in the 1800s who chose the name "communist" because it took them a while to figure out anarchism is retarded.
Anonymous No.17927486 >>17927490 >>17927524 >>17927557 >>17927958
>>17927462 (OP)
Is that Abraham Lincoln?
Anonymous No.17927490 >>17927495 >>17927667 >>17927935 >>17930224
>>17927486
Oh yeah. Marx loved Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln employed several foreign officers in his army, said officers were from some failed socialist coup over in German a few years prior. Lincoln is pretty much a proto commie anyway
Anonymous No.17927495 >>17927551
>>17927490
Lincoln was an autocrat and you're a retardocrat
Anonymous No.17927524
>>17927486
Yeah. The Communist Party in the late 1930s adopted this trend of being super-patriots. This was tied up the Popular Front (in the U.S. this was called the "People's Front"), which was basically a plan to build an alliance with non-communist forces against fascism. In the U.S. that was liberals, New Dealers, reformist labor union leadership, stuff like that. They deemphasized class war rhetoric for "democracy vs. fascism" with the Communist Party framed as defenders of American democracy.
Anonymous No.17927530
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Browder
Anonymous No.17927531 >>17927568
>>17927462 (OP)
Communism in the US? Always a fringe movement, crushed by red scares, government crackdowns, and public hate. Early 1900s saw some hype, but the Cold War buried it.

McCarthyism, FBI harassment, and anti-Soviet sentiment made it toxic. Today, it is a boogeyman for conservatives and a dead-end for leftists. Never stood a chance here.
Anonymous No.17927543
That also mutated into this. Like one of their jobs during the war was to prevent strikes at war production factories. (Trotskyite saboteurs)
Anonymous No.17927551
>>17927495
Lincoln was a tyrannical dictator who loved bathing in the blood of innocent people as he centralized the government, made his national bank, wiped his ass with the constitution, and took a big fat cleveland steamer on state's rights.
Anonymous No.17927557 >>17927916
>>17927486
>Abraham
don't look up the origins of that name.. or the origins of communism. You may find a link.
Anonymous No.17927568
>>17927531
>public hate. Early 1900s saw some hype, but the Cold War buried it.
They had some impressive marches in New York in the late 1930s with many thousands of people. It would've felt like being part of something big for the members then. But you watch footage in the late 40s and the cops had to keep crowds from attacking the march:
https://youtu.be/4d46eMtpZzQ
Anonymous No.17927575 >>17927605
>>17927462 (OP)
BETTER DEAD THEN RED
Anonymous No.17927600 >>17927940
>>17927462 (OP)

US Constitution Article 1, Section 8. Congress shall have the power to collect taxes and provide for the general welfare of the United States. Congress shall have the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations and among the states.

>Collect taxes
>Provide welfare
>Regulate commerce

According to Fox News that's socialism. You know what isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution? Capitalism.
Anonymous No.17927605 >>17927610 >>17927940
>>17927575

>ahhhhh dont tread on my billionaire masters
Anonymous No.17927610 >>17927640 >>17927820
>>17927605
Why are you so successphobic? Billioners worked hard and those deserve to rule us around.
Anonymous No.17927640
>>17927610
>those deserve to rule us around
saaaaar
Anonymous No.17927645
It never really was a big movement in the US. German immigrants brought Marxism to America after the failed 1848 revolutions, but Communism died down after the "Red Scare".
Anonymous No.17927667
>>17927490
Wow
Anonymous No.17927820
>>17927610
>Do not harm the pedophile elites!
Anonymous No.17927916
>>17927557
>freed the slaves
>btfo richfags with no loyalty to their nation or people
Based Jews. Why are Whites such retarded stooges for elites who hate them?
Anonymous No.17927934 >>17928885
Marxism is spiritually and materially hideous. How can a thing that is opposed to metaphysics be so ugly in an ontological way? You're not supposed to even entertain ontology, yet you understand it in an unconscious way and consciously invert it in the things that you make, the buildings, the art, etc. Things that people endure rather than embrace.

Every single thing about the symbolism in communism is an inversion of reality. "Democracy" in bold letters, in an ideology that crushes it outright in every iteration.
Anonymous No.17927935 >>17927939 >>17927972
>>17927490
Like a quarter of the Union Army was foreign. Irish, German, blacks.
Anonymous No.17927939 >>17927972
>>17927935
Grant needed the biomass. Its not a badge of honor.
Anonymous No.17927940 >>17927959
>>17927600
>>17927605
Fag
Anonymous No.17927958
>>17927486
Lincoln waged a war that cost the lives of 620,000 Americans. Including the murder of 50,000 innocent Southern civilians.,
He arrested several thousand Marylanders suspected of Southern sympathies, including 30 members of the State legislature, a US Congressman representing Maryland, the mayor and police commissioner of Baltimore, and most of the Baltimore city council. These political detainees were imprisoned in Fort McHenry and Point Lookout without trial, in many cases, for several years.,
He suspended the writ of habeas corpus without the consent of Congress (as required by the Constitution).,
He illegally shut down and confiscated the printing presses of dozens of newspapers that had spoken out against him.,
He reinstated and summarily promoted an Army officer who had been court martialed and cashiered by the US Army for war crimes.,
He even had an arrest warrant issued for the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court because said justice refused to back his illegal actions.,
Chief Justice Roger B Taney ruled that Lincoln’s actions were illegal, criminal and unconstitutional.,
He invaded the South without the consent of Congress as required by the Constitution.,
He blockaded Southern ports without a declaration of war, as required by the Constitution.,
He imprisoned without trial, hundreds of newspaper editors and owners and censored all newspaper and telegraph communication.,
He created two new states without the consent of the citizens of those states in order to artificially inflate the Republican Party's electoral vote.,
He ordered Federal troops to interfere with Northern elections to assure his Parties victories.,
He confiscated private property, including firearms, in violation of the Second Amendment; and effectively gutted the Tenth and Ninth Amendments as well.,
He had his Generals attack US cities full of women and children and burn them to the ground.
Anonymous No.17927959
>>17927940
MAGAtranny cope
Anonymous No.17927972 >>17927977 >>17927981 >>17928437
>>17927935
And by foreign Irish and German I mean fresh off the boat, now "they are descended from Irish and Germans"
>>17927939
Trust me. I know all about Grant's tactics. Two of my great-great-whatever Uncles died at Cold Harbor thanks to his tactical genius.
Anonymous No.17927977
>>17927972
not*
Anonymous No.17927981
>>17927972
kek
Anonymous No.17928437
>>17927972
oooof
Anonymous No.17928882 >>17928883 >>17928885
Ideological and historical prejudices aside, communism would actually fit American society quite well if you think about it.
>Personality cult? Check (Mt Rushmore)
>Stars on flag? Check
>Propaganda against old european monarchy? check
>a secular modernist constitution?check
>materialism and atheism ingrained into political discourse (muh gdpee muh gas prices)? check
>childhood indoctrination? check (allegiance pledge from early childhood)
>savior complexion? check (manifest communism destiny)
Anonymous No.17928883 >>17928895
>>17928882
Well, if CSA won, it would be commie for sure.
Anonymous No.17928885 >>17928994
>>17927934
>Marxism is spiritually and materially hideous. How can a thing that is opposed to metaphysics be so ugly in an ontological way? [...] Every single thing about the symbolism in communism is an inversion of reality. "Democracy" in bold letters, in an ideology that crushes it outright in every iteration.
I'll tell you, the appeal of it -- or the real power in it -- is Promethean. It's a radical offshoot of the Enlightenment and is like "storming heaven" to dethrone God and to bring down wisdom from the heavens to enlighten mankind. A Christian could consider it essentially Satanic in a kind of Paradise Lost version of Satan:
https://youtu.be/L7i1LY441Hs

>>17928882
>Ideological and historical prejudices aside, communism would actually fit American society quite well if you think about it.
Another way you might think about it, Russia is America's shadow. Their civil war was our civil war. Now they're currently in their George W. Bush GWOT phase.
Anonymous No.17928895
>>17928883
>It would've become commie!
>no no it would've been fascist!
It would've remained as the country the founders created, not the one Lincoln turned it into.
Anonymous No.17928985 >>17929791
>>17927462 (OP)
>keep calm
Anonymous No.17928986 >>17929004 >>17929221
>>17927462 (OP)
these guys are moar interesting
Anonymous No.17928994
>>17928885
Legitimately one of the most stupid and inaccurate "CHRISTIANITY IS A RIPOFF RELIGION" images I've ever seen
Anonymous No.17929004 >>17929791
>>17928986
Why do you like losers?
Anonymous No.17929221
>>17928986
Not really. I prefer natural grass root movements like the silver shirts not dudes pretending to be germans
Anonymous No.17929791
>>17929004
see
>>17928985
Anonymous No.17930224
>>17927490
Fucking hell