Thread 17932935

I want to live in any other time period besides now.

>>17932935 (OP)
Same, I feel like I'd have a much better time of things in the 80s and 90s.

>>17932935 (OP)
Then master your mind, and you'll be wherever you want.

>>17932935 (OP)
George Orwell predicted this btw

>>17932935 (OP)
>marvel movies
>fag parades
>social media
You have access to unlimited food and clean water, light on demand, full legal protection, effortless sanitation, a warm home and a bed, miraculous medicine, artificial immunity to mankinds most devastating diseases, dont have to worry about predators or bandits or a foreign invader trying to burn down your home for praying the wrong way or abducting you into slavery, can file bankruptcy instead of selling yourself into slavery and have access to technology that is even beyond your own comprehension.
But yeah its so terrible because faggots are being faggots. That has never been a thing before, its exclusive to today.

>>17932970
You're making a lot of assumptions about OP. There are quite a lot of people in America who don't have access to most of that stuff.

>>17932970
>You have access to unlimited food and clean water, light on demand, full legal protection, effortless sanitation, a warm home and a bed, miraculous medicine, artificial immunity to mankinds most devastating diseases, dont have to worry about predators or bandits or a foreign invader trying to burn down your home for praying the wrong way or abducting you into slavery, can file bankruptcy instead of selling yourself into slavery and have access to technology that is even beyond your own comprehension.
Not for long, thanks leftist!

>>17932935 (OP)
Misery loves company

>>17932974
Homeless people choose to be homeless.

> The Blackpill: Time and Place Won’t Save You

Unless you alter your internal framework (via cognitive restructuring, pharmacological intervention, or radical acceptance), no external change (time travel, wealth, or societal collapse) will grant lasting relief. Happiness is not a a place, an era, or a condition; it is a biological, genetical and cognitive constant.

> The Hedonic Treadmill
Decades of psychological research (Brickman & Campbell, 1971; Kahneman et al., 1999) confirm that humans adapt to both fortune and misfortune, returning to a baseline level of happiness. A phenomenon known as hedonic adaptation. Winning the lottery or becoming paralyzed shifts happiness temporarily, but within years (sometimes months), people regress to their genetic set point of happiness.

> Genetics Over Circumstance
Twin studies (Lykken & Tellegen, 1996) suggest that 50-80% of subjective well-being is heritable. External conditions ( wealth, status, even historical era) account for a shockingly small portion of long-term happiness. A miserable person in 2024 would likely be miserable in 1824 or 3024, because their disposition shapes perception more than their environment.

> The Cope of Temporal Escape
Many fantasize that living in a different time (muh 'I belong in the Renaissance') would resolve their dissatisfaction. Romanticizing the past ignores suffering universals (disease, violence, boredom, etc). If your brain filters reality through negativity now, it will do so in any era.

>>17932954
For me it's the 110's and the 120's. Give me Trajan and Hadrian over the Flavians

>>17932970
All true but I really wish we could just delete social media and put a firewall up on the entire internet to keep the global south from shitting up the place

>>17933337
You can just delete social media on your phone and enjoy life...

I'd probably still be an autistic loser in any other time period. I like living in the Information Age. I can learn a lot more than I otherwise could have.

>>17933341
Yes that's correct but I cannot delete it from other people's phones and that's really what needs to happen

For me it's about 1770 or so in the same place I live now. Set up a log cabin innawoods, join my ancestors at King's Mountain, and live an otherwise quiet life.

>>17932959
You misspelled “Aldous Huxley”

>>17932959
You misspelled “Quasimodo”

>>17932935 (OP)
A loser in one time would still be a loser in anlther.
And wishing you lived in another time is a loser quality.

>>17933432
TRVTHNVKE

>>17932935 (OP)
I wish I was born 200 years in the future were I'd either be dead from terminators or nuclear radiation before life disappointed me or I'd be an immortal demigod living in post-scarcity fully automated luxury space communism.

>>17932935 (OP)
Too bad

>>17932935 (OP)
>Modern era is better than past era
Most people in history generally always believed this, regardless of how true it was. It's just human nature.

>>17933429
Wow.
You are painfully stupid.

>>17932970
All that existed in 1950 already faggots did not give us running water

>>17933508
Back during the 1950s, losers were daydreaming about living in the "gay nineties" (1890s) when everything was so much better and more based.

>>17933494
There is more than that.
Christians believe humans fell from Paradise. Ancient Greeks believed in past graceful ages. Vedic religion tells us about Yuga Cycle, we had been in Satya Yuga (Golden Age) before and we will eventually reach it again.
Modern people barely address known out-of-place artifacts and other signs of possible past high technology civilizations.

>>17933557
Yes, a lot of civilizations also have some kind of Golden Age myth. But I consider that separate and in a way prior to any other recorded historical era, because it's a myth.

>>17933548
People have wanted to go back since ~1910. The trend hasn't changed much since. Before that everyone thought we were moving foward. So things have been getting worse for about a century.

>>17933571
Myths are subjects of history too.
Conventional history knows about dark ages coming after great civilization demise like Bronze Age Collapse, Fall of Ancient Rome, Mongol conquests. People knew for a fact they had it better before. And these are cases of relatively sudden event, not counting slow centuries-long decline.
My take is we don't know if historians of the future would tag our times as an era of local minimum, steady growth, a prelude to global apocalypse or a first step to post-scarcity Star Trek gay communism utopia.

>>17933587
My point was strictly about what current people think about what came before them. And that generally, they think it was worse than what they have now.
People living in the post Roman "dark age" admired the Romans for certain things, but they also considered themselves as the more modern and better civilization.
Historians will paint ancient history in all kind of ways depending on their current view of the world, regardless of how people actually felt at the time.

>>17933574
People have wanted to go back since 1910 BC

>>17933928
Nope. General sentiment was high until the early 20th century. Read a book, this is well documented

>>17932970
>unlimited food and clean water, light on demand, full legal protection, effortless sanitation, a warm home and a bed, miraculous medicine, artificial immunity to mankinds most devastating diseases, dont have to worry about predators or bandits or a foreign invader trying to burn down your home for praying the wrong way or abducting you into slavery, can file bankruptcy instead of selling yourself into slavery and have access to technology that is even beyond your own comprehension.

They literally had all of that in the 1980s. Hell they had most of that in 1900. You will never be a woman.

>>17933498
You showed him, now you're a real woman

>>17932954
Take me back to the pre-reformation era pl0x

>>17933055
>Happiness is not a a place, an era, or a condition; it is a biological, genetical and cognitive constant.
Phenomenology would disagree with you on that

>>17932970
For 2/3rds of my life I had absolutely everything you listed including a society that suppressed disgusting faggots and other left wing weirdo shit

>>17932935 (OP)
If your biggest complaints are movies you don't like and gay pride parades then doesn't that prove that you have it good?

>>17935255
My biggest complaint is having to look at brown people.

>>17932935 (OP)
I think the 30 Years War or the Justinian Plague or other comparable crisis would be worse, but yeah, I'd say on average, most of human history is more appealing than the post-2012 world.

>things were just as bad back then as they were now
Were there a bunch of retarded brown people hoovering up all the welfare?

>>17933055
>Assumes genetics.
>Ignores unchanged circumstances behind the facade of changed circumstances.
Many such cases.

>>17932970
Every material comfort can be provided but if the spirit is wanting then it is all meaningless. I enjoy innovations like modern dentistry and sanitation, they have been literal life savers at many points through out my life, but can it really make me any more ok with seeing the most vile degeneracy shoved in my face every day? More over, is everything we have in modernity a miracle? I don't think so, in fact I think a lot of our innovations are leaving us with immense technical debt, either due to ignorance or malice, and this is setting us up for a series of catastrophic series of events that will plunge us into a dark age. I also grasp that these innovations, some of which are guided by malice, can unleash unspeakable horrors and I fear that man does not have the responsibility to properly use these things yet.

>>17935838
If your spirit is broken blame yourself for being a spiritlet. Degeneracy was always here, for the fuck sake Jesus himself preached to prostitutes, instead of being buckspiritbroken like whiney losers of thoday who are seething about marvel movies, video games, and pop music. Be the man you were created to be, or remain a degenerate, but do so actively by choice, instead of passively by being born into a culture and time. You chose this. You chose to be a degenerate.

>>17935853
You would have to be operating in pretty bad faith to look and the industrial levels of degeneracy and horror being churned out today and think that it's the viewer's fault. Everyday almost everyone is bombarded, and participation is not just required, but enforced under duress.

>>17935865
A strong spirit is not softened by the world's decay. It is hardened by it. This opposition is your forge, and the pressure you feel is what transforms a common soul into a weapon of purpose. You were meant to stand as a pillar, not to seek shelter. Embrace the fire. Let it strengthen you, not break you. Your fortitude is found in the struggle, not in its absence. A weak spirit seeks a greenhouse, a strong one is tempered in the fire. Do not ask for softer opposition. Ask for a stronger spirit. Rise, harden, and stand. Comfort makes you weak. Resistance makes you mighty.

>>17935838
>and this is setting us up for a catastrophic series of events that will plunge us into a dark age

quick correction

>>17935876
I can pretty safely say that demoralization is not total, but wanting to change that trend is a good thing and does not make one spiritually weak. At the end of the day maybe like ten or so people need to die, now obviously getting to them is the hard part, but cut the head off the snake and the body will die. Maybe snake is the wrong analogy, parasite is a more apt comparison. If the host's body can be convinced to activate its immune system then the disease afflicting us can be excised. So yeah, I will keep pointing out how gay and cringe modernity is, I will use appeals to tradition in doing so as that is the immune system. If that makes chauvinistic and spiritually weak as you term it, then I do not care what you think.

>>17932935 (OP)
>socially inept faggot wants to live in a more socially restrictive time
They wouldve suspected you of being a homosexual for being an unmarried 25+ year old.

>>17933508
>>17934960
Oh ok, so when OP said "any other time period besides now" did they actually mean just a few decades ago?

>>17935893
I think you're conflating two points. If he was reborn in some other time he says he would be happier, not better off.

>>17935302
Obsessed

>>17932957
>Have you tried delusion? I swear by the stuff!
Anon...

>>17932970
You forgot that one of my base needs is making war on my enemies

>>17937735
That can be provided too, become a merc in Ukraine or central Africa

>>17937742
But they're not my enemies. They're not great, they're certainly a threat to my part of the world, but they're not my ultimate enemies. Just another version of me sitting on the wrong side of a nasty conflict invented by my enemies

>>17936267
NTA
I would never ask for a frugal life of subsistence farming and animal husbandry, or anything similar, over what I have here. But yes, I entirely agree with the idea that you would probably have satisfaction comparable to what you have easy access to today. It's absolute BS when people pretend that having their immediate needs fulfilled is some sort of gift from heaven above in terms of ultimate satisfaction. Can you imagine coming home from selling hogs at market and your wife and dad and uncle or whatever are like holy shit great job I'll get the good beer from the basement and you coast off of that sale for eight years while watching your kids grow up? Dude.

>>17937762
Join Hamas and immediately be suspected for not being Muslim, then obliterated into 4000 degree plasma 45 minutes later?

>>17937803
Damn dude at least probe my fantasy and talk about how I'd probably hit my wife or something or my son kills me with a pitchfork
midwit

>>17937808
Okay fine. Join the Cascadian Movement or whatever the fuck they call themselves, but idk how bright they glow these days
>captcha: 88888, I have never seen 5 of the same digits in a captcha before

>>17937803
There are literally orthodox christians and even atheist communists fighting in hamas anon

>>17932987
Tell that to men who lose their homes to their adulterous ex-wives who take the kids

>>17937841
KARA

>>17937762
>I need le war
>but not like that
If you actually sought battle you wouldnt care who you fight. The men who signed up for the Landsknechts or the Legion didnt care.