Thread 17933979

Imagine how much better the world would be if Moses drowned in the Nile as a baby.

God would have just chosen someone else and nothing would change but a name in a book.

Buddhist polytheism would’ve dominated the world do you really want that?

>Instead of being wiped out by Christianity, the old pantheons continue evolving. By now, religion in Europe would look something like Hinduism: regional variations of Zeus/Jupiter, Athena/Minerva, etc., worshiped alongside local spirits.
>Stoicism, Epicureanism, and Neoplatonism evolve into mass spiritual frameworks, filling the role Christianity played in our timeline. Philosophy is treated as both science and spirituality, and schools of thought like the Stoics have clergy-like institutions.

VGH

>>17933996
just imagine how much better things would be

>>17933996
If the Romans had converted to Buddhism. How much of the population would be Buddhist or would there be a competition between the Zoroastrians and Buddhists in Europe? Would Islam be heavily influenced by Buddhism and be another school of it? How would conversion in the Americas work?

>>17933979 (OP)
You still wouldn't be a real woman

>>17933979 (OP)
/his/ flooded with sand monkeys again

Moses never existed. Jewish monotheism arose as a reaction to Platonist ideas. Jews did not practice monotheism until the hellenistic period. If you asked a Jew in 500 BCE about exodus he would stare at you like you were crazy and then go back to worshipping YHWH and his consort Asherah and numerous other Gods.

>>17933979 (OP)
He didn't exist.

>>17934929
Jews as we know them today didn't exist them either.

>>17933998
The world was slowly moving towards monotheism since the Hellenistic era so Christianity was probably an inevitability.

>>17933979 (OP)
It would be interesting to see an alternate reality where militant atheists tip their fedoras at pagans

What I'm saying is pagan cults were ooga booga tribal shit and couldn't survive a more globalized, interconnected world which is what was beginning to happen after Alexander's conquests.

>>17934929
https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2021/09/24/top-ten-discoveries-related-to-moses-and-the-exodus/

I mean, this story of moses was probably made up. It would be easier to remove Jesus or Saint Paul from the equation

>>17933996
buddhist arent theistic
tibetan buddhist deities just serve as metaphorical figures, no one actually believes they exist

>>17934944
Imagine militant fedora Atheist coming out of their mother basement stylishly like movie moving with smug face and causing earthquake and entering time machine to kill moses or reducate them using richard dawkins , hitchens book.

I can imagine moses wondering what kind of creatures this is .

>>17936501
Buddhist aren't Atheist . Buddha said god existence is not their matter. They just care about nirvana and end of suffering.

>>17936501
Most lay buddhists aren’t gonna care and continue praying to the buddha alongside their gods most of which will have a new title as a bodhisattva

>>17933996
I just LOVE religions that keep syncretizing with each other that they permanently alter the meanings of each religion and it becomes impossible to separate the two.

>>17933979 (OP)
>pagans want baby to die
No suprise, if this is how much they cared about their own flesh and blood, they wouldn't carry about a random baby either.
SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome
>One letter surviving on papyrus from Roman Egypt, written by a husband to his pregnant wife, instructs her to raise the child if it is a boy, but ‘if it is a girl, discard it’. How often this happened, and what the exact sex ratio of the victims was, is a matter of guesswork, but it was often enough for rubbish tips to be thought of as a source of free slaves."

>>17934939
>>17934947
>Monotheism was inevitable, pagancuck, o algo
Not true. There was the Solar Invictus thing, but Helios was always worshipped by the romans, besides other gods, of course

>>17936623
>pagans want baby to die
Ah, the old 'Would you kill baby Hitler?' dilemma...
>SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome
Let's pretend for a second that abrahamanics didn't sacrifice babies to their god. In retrospect, its amazing how bad humans are as parents

>>17936901
>In retrospect, its amazing how bad humans are as parents
I know. It's horrid how infanticide/infant exposure appears everywhere in the world.

>>17933979 (OP)
nothing would have changed, fall of bronze age was already happening so biblical jews would have found a different leader to fight egyptians and invade levant

>>17936892
you're forgeting mitras cult which christian creed is mirroring

>>17937178
That was mainly a cult among the soldier ranks, not something meant to be taken for the whole empire. Being an only-males religion was going to make it lose against the more universal christianity, however
>>17937104
More civilized places, like Rome, were somewhat bening to infants, with adoption and societal expectations of families to take care of their orphans, but welfare for them (in Italy and just for a few decades, maybe it would have stayed and spreaded to the rest of the empire if it didn't fall into constant civil turmoil) was non existant until emperors Nerva and Trajan came around. Ancient Chinese its a very interesting case, however, because they took a lot of measures for orphans to be treated nicely, even to the point of creating welfare and aiding taoist and buddhist temple to help them. Compare it to modern China, where an infant whose parents are "unavailable" is as good as dead

>>17933998
Hinduism also believe in one god nigga. Your paganism is no where near modern hinduism. Vedic hinduism can be but they were also henothestic and had no idol/image workship.

Paganism is fucked religion. If anyone wanna follow zeus he is dum ass . Zeus hated human. Old pagan religion of mesomopotia,greek , Egyptian treated human as slave of god.
Paganism had no philosophy in it

>>17937263
The expectations were for children already accepted by the family. There was small window of time where babies could be left, though in their defence they left them in the places where they had a chance to be found.
This kind of child abandonment was legal even after Christianity, Christians tried to ban it and have the babies be taken care of by the state but they were too many of them and it was to expansice so they didn't implement it.

>>17937342
>Hinduism also believe in one god nigga.
That is slop paraded around by Brahmins to ensure they stay on top and everyone else gets psy-opped into accepting it since they don’t want further conflict with the top priest caste and they still get to worship gods separately as separate entities while theologically they are avatars of Brahma/whatever tope entity is there which the common person doesn’t give a damn about, the indians just worship away.

>>17937348
>There was small window of time where babies could be left, though in their defence they left them in the places where they had a chance to be found.
Yeah, while infant exposure is a bit of a bitch thing, romans did have some decency towards their abandoned children.
>This kind of child abandonment was legal even after Christianity
Even if there were already attempts by the romans to better the orphan situations, christians did help greatly by influencing matters

>>17937263
>in Italy and just for a few decades, maybe it would have stayed and spreaded to the rest of the empire if it didn't fall into constant civil turmoil)
Actually i got it wrong, it was two centuries that 'Alimenta' lasted