Thread 17934295

who was your country's most famous communist, or the biggest ever mass communist rebellion/event in its history?

if your country was once ruled by communists-who is the most loved/least hated of them? curious about how people revere left wing leaders

>>17934295 (OP)
Either the The dude who burned the Reichstag, Troelstra who failed a revolution or Sneevliet who somehow was revered in China for a time

The most famous communist in the US is probably Lee Harvey Oswald.

>>17934295 (OP)
Brezhnev is the most loved/least hated amongst average Russian boomer.
Even Stalin is more of an idea than actual persona (with all the praise/bitching standing from that). Brezhnev, on the other hand, was/is respected as a guy who is not above it all.

>likes car
>likes hunting
>likes fast driving
>scared either Kissinger or Reagan to death when took them for a ride
>Comfiest USSR time came during his time.

>>17934471
This is sadly probably true.

The ones who have stuck around in the U.S. as free-floating symbols are usually black. The biggest star the communists had in the post-war era was probably Angela Davis. She's a boomer now and nobody cares, but she was a big symbol in the 1970s. The Soviet Union had billboards up around the country with her image on it. She also became just a symbol that is removed from her as an actual person like this around 1:17:
https://youtu.be/8CFrCk6_0rM

That's pretty standard "black liberal / vaguely progressive / let's for Democrats" stuff. But it's a thing. Also Paul Robeson but that guy was like the 1940s and a lot of people don't know who he is. He was popular then and you'll still see his image in black history contexts.

>>17934775
why do ppl dislike cornchev?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Bethune
doctor who joined the Communist Party of Canada, then went to Spain and then China to serve as a field surgeon in their civil wars. Barely anybody here knows about him but he's a national hero in China because Mao wrote a eulogy for him after he died of an infection he contracted by accidentally cutting himself performing surgery on Red Army soldiers, and pretty much every successive Chinese leader has held him up as an example of an ideal communist and one of the CPC's only "foreign friends" in their darkest hour

I'd say the most famous commies in my country are the tens of thousands of refugees that escaped that ass backwards piece of shit ideology

>>17935189
Yeah he's important there. Doctors can get the Bethune Medal or something, and they have a PLA medical unit named after him.

>>17934462
Reichstag guy for sure (something van der lubbe?) troesltra is obscure, sneevliet too outside of china

>>17934462
Sneedvliet

>>17934471
No, it's definitely MLK Jr.

>>17935299
No.

>>17935201
Yes, I'm sure that's why Chang is in your country.

>>17934295 (OP)
>>17934471
>>17935179
>>17935299
>not Woody Guthrie

australia has unfortunately had an absolute nothingburger of communist related history (as far as i know) but outside of my own country i suppose my "favourite" communists would be trotsky & tito

>>17934295 (OP)
>who was your country's most famous communist
The most famous would be John Curtin, William Spence or maybe Henry Lawson if you stretch your definition of communist to include utopian socialists. Most influential organization would probably have to be the early Australian Labour Party and the Australian Socialist league. The League were explicitly Marxists and would argue during the second Internationale that the deportation of all non-Whites (excluding Abos) from Australia was a socialist position.
Closest to a rebellion would have had to have been all those massive strikes during the 1890s and great depression
For the most part the history of socialism, Marxist and non-Marxist, in Australia died alongside the White Australia policy

>>17934295 (OP)
>Be polish noble
>Meet this guy Lenin and join his revolution
>Become one of architects of red terror
>End up becoming one of poles with highest russian kill count by proxy
>Russians love you so much for this they raise monuments to honor you to this day and end up naming schools and streets after you

James Connolly founded his own Irish militia (the Irish Citizen Army) who were like the IRA but far more direct and much further on the left.

If I'm not mistaken, this "Red Army" was one of the first of its kind in the world; it was founded in 1913, following mass strikes in Dublin. Connolly was such a popular man that the wider Irish revolutionary movement had to absorb him+the ICA or else they worried that they'd end up launching a revolution without them. Connolly was executed for his role in 1916 but is extremely revered all over Ireland.

>>17935274
Hehehe

>>17934295 (OP)
>who was your country's most famous communist, or the biggest ever mass communist rebellion/event in its history?
Lenin, I guess.

>>17934295 (OP)
>>17934471
If we’re talking actual non-notorious people who aren’t merely known for shooting someone then the answer at least for the baby boomer generation is likely John Reed, the socialist reporter who is buried at the Kremlin. He is likely most famous for the warren Beatty biopic Reds which won best picture in 1981.

>>17936153
No I was referring to the elite academics and athletes that escaped the shithole USSR for a real country

>>17937816
You're Israeli? Because those elites didn't go anywhere else.

>>17934295 (OP)
Big Bill Haywood or Eugene Debs possibly? Maybe Daniel DeLeon?

>>17935179
Not entirely. Read above.

>>17937839
Probably Debs

>>17937839
>>17938692
DeLeon was more influential

>>17937839
>>17934471
>>17937804
As far as socialists that actually took up arms and fought go, the Red Necks are pretty well known. Mind you, everyone forgot why they got that name in the first place, but the name recognition is there.

>>17936482
What a hero

>>17934295 (OP)
>who was your country's most famous communist

Probably Norman Bethune.
He worked as a Montreal Doctor during the great depression where he offered free medical services to the poor, contracted tuberculosis (of which his wife divorced him over), and become obsessed with the discrepancies created by economic disparity and health. He went to Russia to study their system, came back and did some work bringing public health over here, and then in the tail-end of his life went to China to help them with their own system.
According to Prof. Wikipedia he was entombed and enshrined in Shijiazhuang, Hebei Province, China.

Probably Otto Wille Kuusinen. A Finnish communist who fled to Soviet Union after the Finnish Civil War, and whose major accomplishment was to be one of the few Finnish exiles in Soviet Union who were not murdered in Stalin's purges. During the Winter War, Stalin appointed him as the leader of so called Terijoki government, which proclaimed itself the government of Finland and appealed to Soviet Union for "help". Part of Soviet Union's casus belli was "aiding the Terijoki government". Due to Winter War not ending in occupation of Finland, the Terijoki government never fulfilled it's purpose as Finland's new communist regime, and it was disbanded in 1940. Kuusinen was able to continue work in Stalin's administration, and afterwards seamlessly became a Khrushchev sycophant, living rest of his life as a wealthy man in Soviet Union. He would have wanted to return to Finland and re-enter politics there after WW2 but was not allowed to, because the Party thought that he would be too polarizing and destabilizing figure in his homeland and they already had enough commie and pro-commie stooges there.

Commie bastards you lost. The CIA and freedom won. Stop being chuds.

>>17935187
Revisionist Trotskyite who's liberalizing reforms led to the red directors who sabotaged and destroyed the Soviet economy.