Thread 17938763

>muslims spend a 1000 years trying to invade enslave and pillage europe
>europeans turn the tables and invade and pillage them instead
>they cry the victim
Why are they like this?

>>17938763 (OP)
>Muslim invasion
>Brought stability and progress.
>Christian invasions of the middle east
>Brought destruction and suffering
Simple as.

>>17938767
>>Brought destruction and suffering
Good you deserved it

>>17938763 (OP)
Its not respectable because timmies dont admit their true intentions and instead try to dominate through underhanded tactics like propaganda, subversion and d&c.

>>17938795
They dominate trough sheer military force something which inbred arabs are unable to face head on.

>>17938804
Propaganda is the most powerful weapon of globohomo, making the people praise and side with their oppressor against the oppressed trying to liberate them. If you knockoff kikes were actually sincere about your intentions it would lead to more people to side with the good guys instead of labeling everyone doing something a jewish agent

>>17938816
>sincere about your intentions
Which are?

>>17938835
Terrorism fueled by greed, superiority complex and ethnic/religious hatred, rather than hiding behind democracy and other subversive ideologies

>be european
>colonize almost entire world
>eradicate native cultures to spread your version of judaism
>laugh about your genocides and how might makes right
>"im sorry but the human sacrifices must stop"
>then go chimp out about instances of non christians beating christians
>explain how this is the worst crime in history and christians have done nothing ever wrong and every victory of the non christians was built on lies and cheating and "might makes right" doesnt apply

>>17938851
>Terrorism fueled by greed
True
>superiority complex and ethnic/religious hatred
False
And how would admitting those help garner support?

Religion of peace (founded by a pedophile warlord who used religion to get all the good loot)

>>17938861
>False
You will occasionally come across someone like op who admits his true intentions
>And how would admitting those help garner support?
I can actually respect a settler kike like ben gvir and smotrich for openly admitting their true goals, rather than hiding behind lies and manipulation. Them admitting their intentions has woken up the people to the jewish threat

>>17938879
>You will occasionally come across someone like op who admits his true intentions
I dont think op has any influence or anything to do with the invasionsm

>>17938877
this map is straight up misinformation you abracuck. go back to facebook

>>17938879
No, Mehmet, we aren't like you.

You angry that you believe your enemies are all secretly genocidal lunatics like you and Ben Gvir, so you can pretend life is some childish and sadistic competition, is so pathetic, you neanderthal.

how old was rebecca again

>>17938892
it is pretty amusing how muhammads pedophilia is a common talking point for x cucks but somehow isaac and rebecca are either missing context or just lies to defame their faith

>>17938890
>You angry that you believe your enemies are all secretly genocidal lunatics like you and Ben Gvir,
Should i also believe the condemnations of your governments are worth anything while they continue arming and funding israel? You're fully cooperating with them to make sure the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is carried out yet in public ''condemn'' their genocidal campaign and mislead the people with fake recognitions that don't actually mean anything while they are being erased

>>17938901
All Sunnis all cucked to Israel, the only ones left opposing them are the Iranians.

>>17938901
>You're fully cooperating with them to make sure the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is carried
In what? The only countries that are doing that are the usa, germany and uk and they're governments have never e feigned concern for palestinians or condemmed them.

>>17938901
>Should i also believe the condemnations of your governments are worth anything while they continue arming and funding israel? You're fully cooperating with them to make sure the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians carried out
In what way? The only countries that are doing that are the usa and germany and their governments have never once feigned concern or condemmed israels action.

>>17938904
The ''sunnis'' you're talking about are just puppets put in power precisely to fight Islam, not even controlled opposition like iran is but to carry out exactly what i was talking about itt, making the people side with their oppressors through lies and deception

>>17938858
Sounds like the Romans desu

>>17938908
>The only countries that are doing that are the usa and germany and their governments have never once feigned concern or condemmed israels action.
France, britain, germany and some other western govs pretending to be ''concerned'' about the situation

>>17938909
Nobody put the Saudis or Erdog or Killyev in power, stop coping.
When it comes to it, moslems will always side with kikes to murder and enslave white Christians.

>>17938915
None of ghese countries except france have done that.
And also why should they care about palestinians its not their problem or people.

>>17938917
White christians are the most rabid supporters of israel so why would jews want them dead
>Nobody put the Saudis or Erdog or Killyev in power, stop coping.
Support for them is unnatural and maintained through violence and bribes by the west, and also propaganda to legitimize their apostate regimes
>>17938920
Indeed they shouldn't, however when they help the zionist regime carry out its plans they should be viewed as enemies that was my point

>>17938901
My man, condemning them is much more than the arab governments are doing.

Now learn to be a man, and not a psychotic child, that justifies his sadistic power fantasies he uses to justify being a failure in life, because life doesn’t exist to just be a nice little narrative for your disgusting murderous power trips you use to cope that your entire culture gloats about having harmed and enslaved the weak for a millenia, and then got bitch-slapped back where you belong in a couple of decades, under much more lenient ways than you inflicted upon others.

And as soon as someone refuses to engage in this silly prison style dominance contest, you have to justify to yourself how you are somehow better than them.

Learn to be a man, and actually bring value to this world, instead of being an bitchy impotent little boy.

>>17938763 (OP)
You know how some children will lie shamelessly and pretend to be the victims when they're the bullies? Muslims are exactly like that, but adults.

>>17938767
>Muslim invasion
>Brought stability and progress.
Things that didn't happen.

>>17938816
>oppressor against the oppressed trying to liberate them
Motherfucker Muslims ARE the oppressor, who are we kidding here? Everywhere from Nigeria to Pakistan you people terrorize and butcher non-Muslims. You want to talk about the Nabka? Muslims literally killed more people in the same timeframe, see 1947 in India. The only difference between Pakistan and Israel is that Pakistan finished the job, Israelis didn’t.

Like you lot have the biggest persecution complexes on Earth and I really don’t understand why. You have to go back to the Crusades or the colonization of the Americas to find a case of religious violence as bad as what Muslims do on a daily basis in 2025. No other group of people get the sort of forgiveness and allowance for religious violence Muslims do. The same atheists who relentlessly mock every other faith on the planet don’t dare speak against Islam. The same Western communists who rage against every other religion worship you guys.

What in the world more do you Muslims want? What would make you happy? You don’t want to be secular, every Muslim democracy ends up a theocracy in the end. You don’t want an actual theocracy either, apparently. Muslims will cheer for ISIS/etc on Twitter but when Salafis pull up to their countries it’s a sob story: “Please let me in as a refugee to escape the horrid terrorists! Thanks, I will now start to build a theocracy here!”

Honest to God the only hope for this planet is China winning and putting the entire Muslim ummah in Uyghur reeducation camps, but that’s never going to happen. Most likely you people will take over the West and Asia and then will spend the rest of human history calling each other munafiqs and going to war until someone finally presses the big red button and puts the species out of its misery.

>>17938909
>The ''sunnis'' you're talking about are just puppets put in power precisely to fight Islam

You're an Al-Qaeda supporter and the UK literally supported Al-Qaeda against Gaddafi.

The UK is full of Islamist terrorists because the UK gave asylum to every terrorist from Al-Qaeda, Hizb ut-Tahrir and Muslim Brotherhood to fight against Gaddafi.

Gaddafi assassinated Mohammed Ramadan (Hizb ut-Tahrir member in the UK who worked for BBC).

UK gave asylum to known al-Qaeda terrorist Abu Anas al-Libi in the 1990s.

UK made Interpol cancel Gaddafi's arrest warrant against Bin Laden.

Sudan's Muslim Brotherhood regime had Russian pilots bombing Darfur for them.

The Sudanese then supported the rebels against Gaddafi, who also had NATO air support.

Both Russia, NATO and Al-Qaeda all backed the rebels in Libya.

Russia, UK and US all sanctioned Gaddafi in the 1990s, when the UK backed the Al-Qaeda LIFG insurgency against Gaddafi.

The US, UK and Australia supported Indonesia invading East Timor.

Then Al-Qaeda falsely claimed East Timor is original Dar ul-Islam (it never was) and that the west supported East Timor against Indonesia (Indonesia was on the verge of collapse in 1998 due to Asian financial crisis and was forced to let go of East Timor or ot would balkanise)

Indonesian military was fighting against Acehnese Muslims and raping Muslim Acehnese women, and Al-Qaeda backed Indonesia.

You cry about apostate regimes backed by the west when you litetally are supported by the west.

>>17938939
>My man, condemning them is much more than the arab governments are doing.
The point is that ''condemning'' something is meaningless when you do the complete opposite of what you say. And actually much worse than that, its meant to mislead people by acting as some sort of controlled opposition to and give zionists time to carry out their plans.

>>17938909
>>17938961
Gaddafi supported Moro Muslims against Philippines

Gaddafi supported Acehnese Muslims against Indonesia

Al-Qaeda supported Indonesia against Aceh


Gaddafi supported Darfur's JEM Zaghawa Muslims against the Sudan Muslim Brotherhood dictatorship (Russia supported Sudan and Russian pilots were killed by JEM while fighting for Sudan)

Russia and the west were both against Gaddafi.

Russia and the west both supported Islamists (Muslim Brotherhood,, Al-Qaeda, Hizb ut-Tahrir) against Gaddafi.

You (Al-Qaeda terrorists) are the puppets of the infidels.

Al-Qaeda terrorists live in UK living off UK government welfare because the UK wants them to, not because Al-Qarda are geniuses gaming the system.

Britain also gave the non-Muslim Chittagong Hill Tracts to Bengali Muslims.

Britain settled Bengali Muslims in Assam (Assamese Muslims and non-Muslims both despise the Bengalis and massacre them)

Al-Qaeda falsely claims Bengali Muslims are native to those places and falsely claims Britain and west tried to steal those places from Muslims.

Western media all support Bengali Muslims in Assam and falsely claim they are native.

Western media supports Bangladeshis in Chittagong Hill Tracts.

Al-Qaeda kikes falsely claim the west is against them.

>>17938961
>>17938969
Al-Qaeda refused to condemn the Sudanese regime during the Darfur genocide, Al-Qaeda only attacked JEM and Gaddafi.

This is while the Sudanese Islamists committed apostasy by begging Russia for Russian pilots to bomb the Darfuri Muslims.

Sudan was genociding Muslims in Darfur and committing apostasy by asking non-Muslims to bomb the Muslims

Al-Qaeda cried about puppet regimes in the Gulf while al-Qaeda was on the same side as Russia and NATO in 2011.

>>17938947
Sounds like white people.

9/11 was deserved.

When you see "apostate regimes" keep in mind the person you are talking to is an al-Qaeda incel

The thing is, the apostate regimes rely on western and Israeli Jewish supports to do the exact thing the Al-Qaeda incel wants them to do

Al-Qaeda supported Indonesia's occupation of East Timor and West Papua.

Al-Qaeda supports Bangladesh's occupation of Chittagong Hill Tracts.

Both Indonesia and Bangladesh rely on western and Israeli military aid to exist.

Israel sold fighter jets and weapons to Indonesia, Jewish politicians like Richard Holbrooke and Jewish news media in America help cover for Indonesia in West Papua. Israel trained Indonesian special forces.

The gold in West Papua's Grasberg mine goes to Jewish Zionists like Carl Icahn. Indonesian military is protecting their interests in exchange for Israeli weapons.

Bangladesh received Mossad training and equipment for their special police units.

If the "apostate regimes" cut off all ties to Israel and Zionists in the west, they would immediately lose West Papua and Chittagong Hill Tracts.

Morocco relies on western military aid to occupy western Sahara as well.

Azerbaijan relies on Israeli military aid against Armenians. That's why Azerbaijan sends oil to Israel.

Meanwhile al-Qaeda and Hamas support Azerbaijan against Armenians.

Hamas begged Indonesia to open an office in Jakarta, but Indonesian officials rejected it (because Indonesia needs Israel and Jews to occupy West Papua)

Hamas congratulated Azerbaijan against Armenia.

Al-Qaeda connected Islamists fought for Azerbaijan against Armenia in the first Nagorno Karabakh war.

Azerbaijan continues to supply Israeli military with oil and refuses to cut the supply off.

>>17939026
Azerbaijani soldiers beheaded elderly Armenian civilians and smashed Armenian Christian tombs.

Azerbaijan relies on Israeli Harop drones and other weapons.

Hamas congratulated Azerbaijan over doing this against Christian "infidels".

Then Azerbaijan exported millions of barrels to Israel's tanks and fighter jets to carpet bomb Hamas to the ground.

Azerbaijan didn't issue condolences for Hamas leaders and fighters killed by Israel.

>>17938979
t. soulless entity masquerading as a human being

>>17939035
Israeli jets are burning Palestinian Muslim children alive with Azerbaijani oil.

Hamad congratulated Azerbaijan

Al-Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood support Azerbaijan against Armenia.

Islamist Arabs would rather support Azerbaijan, Indonesia and Bangladesh's occupations, than free Palestine.

Islamist Arabs would rather the entire Palestinian nation go to hell on earth than stop supporting oppression of non-Muslims.

>>17939026
I just saw a dumb Algerian Islamist complain about his "secular" government supporting West Sahara against Morocco, saying Algeria should support Chechnya or Uyghurs.

What that dumbass doesn't get is that Morocco works with Israel exactly because it gets Israeli and western military aid.

Morocco gave Israel intelligence in all the Arab-Israeli wars, Morocco allows Mossad to work there.

In exchange, the US and Israel help Morocco in Western Sahara.

All the Muslim countrues rely on the US and Israel to oppress others.

>>17938767
Muslim invasions turned prosperous middle east to inbred subhuman wasteland

>>17939110
No, that was the UK and France

>>17938763 (OP)
This post makes no sense, mudslimes only ever invaded Europe during the initial expansion and the Osmanli conquests, in the latter case it was a intra-European conflict.

the real culprits of anti-European violence and criminality would be the Tartars-Moguls who have been invading European and Aryan lands ever since the Hunnic invasions. So i suggest we divert our attention to the full decimation of Tartar lives and prosperity in European and Aryans lands until they are forced to migrate back to their homeland of Kamchatka where they will be permitted to live on the condition that the civilized peoples will not suffer to aid them in any compacity to survive the harsh winters.

>>17938763 (OP)
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/
http://markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=dar+al+islam
http://www.google.com/search?q=dar+al+harb
>>17938767
go fuck the goats achmed

>>17938767
>Brought stability and progress.
No it didn't. The only thing these muslim "scholars" during this time did was copy some ancient works that were found in the cities that they stole and took over (they can't build anything themselves), although they destroyed other works, which is part of the reason why there are so many lost works of antiquity.

Inbreeding is incredibly dysgenic. Mohammadanism brought inbreeding into the areas it infested. Inbreeding objectively causes lowered IQ. Yet inbreeding is what Mohammad taught. So lower IQ and inbreeding are both associated to Mohammadanism. Many of them are basically like children, mentally speaking, part of which is due to all of the inbreeding that has happened. The depraved culture which incentivizes dishonesty (i.e. Taqiyya) also has a further negative effect.

>>17938763 (OP)
one of the most prominent characteristics of muslims is that they are ultra tribal.
they don't care(or know) about rationality, objective truth, minimal sense of fairness, morality or justice, these are empty concepts for them, all they care about is worshiping their tribe and wishing themselves "victory" in whatever there is, this is precisely why they are unable to understand why they are the scum of humanity, and any criticism of them is met with threats or extreme violence because they don't have intellectual or moral instruments to handle it differently.

>>17938763 (OP)
because they flooded millions of jews into muslim lands, desu id be pissed off too. that has to be the most inhumane thing europeans have ever done.

>>17940347
>this is precisely why they are unable to understand why they are the scum of humanity
They ("mudslimes") are scum because they are Tartar mongoloid subhumans. Islam was in fact a civilizing force for them. I have no quarrel with the Arabs, not once did they step at the gates of Vienna.

>>17938763 (OP)
Playing the who started it game with history is pointless and ignores the real human suffering caused by imperialism and war on all sides.

>>17938966
Bitch, i don't care about Israel.

Again, we are not you, we aren't secretly wanting to do cartoonishly evil things to billions of people, just out of feeling offended one's millennia sadistic reign of terror got interrupted by the West gut punching that regime for 70 years, so we have to go to increasingly insane fundamentalism, to cope with being geopolitical cumrags since then.

>>17940427
Nice for you to admit you are anti-semitic. Seethe more, arabic spawn, pray to muhhamed and worship HAMAS while we white people are doing science and exploring space.

>>17938966
what are the zionists plans?

>>17940432
Re-read what i said.

Was dunking on the Al-Qaida incel going "you are just the same as me, secretly wanting to go full Khorne on billions, because Israel does bad things, and you aren't violently siding with Palestine", by reminding him i don't care about Tel Aviv.

>>17939763
>No it didn't. The only thing these muslim "scholars" during this time did was copy some ancient works that were found in the cities that they stole and took over (they can't build anything themselves), although they destroyed other works, which is part of the reason why there are so many lost works of antiquity.
Why is this argument never done about the renaissance/enlightenment or medieval scholars? Most developments/advancement in a field of study are based on the work of predecessors, its doesnt just simply come out of nowhere. And a lot of times they got access to these roman and greek works through arabic translations and quoted muslim scholars

>>17940548
>Most developments/advancement in a field of study are based on the work of predecessors, its doesnt just simply come out of nowhere.
The development of empirical methods, which led to the industrial revolution and other discoveries, was only possible because of the continued advancement of European civilization.

The advancements stopped happening in the Middle East, Nafrica and most of Eastern Europe because they were overrun with Mohammadans, so all progress stopped. The original white inhabitants were either massacred or turned into slaves by durka durka, who took over their cities with exceptionally dishonest tactics and violence. As was mentioned before, these inbred cultist people who worship a literal pedophile cult leader, who admitted the devil made him say things, simply stole cities and valuable things from their superiors, they didn't make anything themselves. All they care about is looting, raping and pillaging. That and stealing what others have built. It's not that different from the deranged head chopping maniac and lying dishonorable bastard, the filthy false prophet mohammad, whom they idolize.

>And a lot of times they got access to these roman and greek works through arabic translations and quoted muslim scholars
The Europeans continued to make new discoveries mostly despite the fact that "muslim scholars" largely destroyed the records of antiquity. The fact that a very small percentage of it was copied is nothing to brag about. That is exactly like the man who burned down someone else's house saying he saved a few belongings from the fire (that he started) and then pawned them off.

>>17941037
The ''progress'' in question:

>>17941053
Talmudism.

>>17938950
>>17939110
lol the golden age of islam ended due to Mongol them destroying the infrastructure of iraq and iran and khorsan in the east, and climate change and the fall of al Andalus led to the fall of the islamic golden age in the west

>>17941057
can't deny that

>>17941037
>The original white inhabitants
>we wuz

>>17941064
Yeah, anon, to the extent that happened it's bad. A medieval gnostic cult based on writings from the 3rd to 5th century AD in Babylon, which falsely identifies itself as Jews/Israel, is also destructive. That is why they too shall be resisted.

>>17941071
And how would you do that? Getting rid of jews wont just magically stop whites from being degenerate feminist freaks

>>17941090
>And how would you do that?
How would I resist that? By stating the truth. They cannot withstand being exposed to the truth. When that false ideology which masquerades as "Judaism" is disproven and gone, healing will be possible.

>>17941037
>most of Eastern Europe
Eastern Europe was occupied by Tartar mongoloids who were not even pious to their own heathen faith. Look it up, their is an account of a Tartar invader in Austria preying to Jesus.
>>17941060
It has long been established that the Tartars are the enemies of all races and creeds.

>>17941060
>the infrastructure of iraq and iran and khorsan
pre-muslims
>al Andalus
European "muslims" drinking wine and being civilized

>>17941060
Wasn't the golden age of Islam just about conquest, all this while the Muslims were divided between themselves and always on the brink of civil war? How many leaders were assassinated or putsched during these golden age?
And don't talk of Andalusia, most Muslims never thought about that place at all at the moment.

>>17939035
Armenia invaded karabakh in the 90s and ethnically cleansed over 100k. They were the bad guys in the conflict and they deserved the humiliation they got this decade. Stop looking at conflicts based exclusively on religion. Theres a reason none of armenias neighbours like them. They are just a shit nation

>>17941991
Azeris are Twelver Shia and the only reason Ikhwanjis and Salafoids support you is because Turkey told everyone you became Sunni.

The same Salafists hate Turkmen Twelver Shia in Iraq.

>>17941991
>>17942262
Look up what ISIS terrorists did to Turkmen Shia in Tel Afar, Iraq.

ISIS released Sunni Turkish consular officials in Mosul in 2014 and they released Indian Christian nurses.

Guess what they did to Turkmen Shia?

By the way Erdoğan deliberately let ISIS run wild until 2016, because they focused all their attacks against PKK-YPG and didn't fire a shot at Turkey.

Erdoğan only started intervention in 2016 in ISIS land to stop the PKK linking with Afrin.

Salafists and Ikhwan are all under the false impression that you are Sunnis.

They both cry victim desu

>>17941053
Sunnis do that with misyar (before you claim its all Shia mutah).

There are girls in Egypt who had dozens of Saudi men renting them for a summer holiday misyar sex vacation.

>>17938795
Islamists lie all the time and falsely claim the other side started it.

Islamists falsely claim Bengali Muslims are native to Assam, instead of admitting Britain put them there.

They aren't boasting about how they are conquering the land now, they falsely claim Bengali Muslims were there 1,300 years ago.

>>17944357
Bengalis are Aryan, India has been an Aryan dominion for 3500 years.

>>17944400
Bengalis are not native to Assam. Bengalis are from Bengal.

>>17944480
Aryans are not limited to the shackles of indignity, we go where we please and take what we like.

>>17944480
Aryans are not limited to the shackles of indigeneity, we go where we please and take what we like.

>>17940392
The truth is everyone fucking hates each other and will be happy as long as someone they hate is getting screwed over too.

>>17938779
Euroaches and judeochristians deserve total extermination tho

>>17938763 (OP)
wog nog

>>17941071
How is Rabbinical Judaism gnostic? Is it about their belief in reincarnation which Second temple Jews didn't have?

>>17947235
In the Babylonian Talmud they mention the gnostic deity figure "Metatron" mentioned for the first time in 3 Enoch, a gnostic writing that predates the Talmud itself.

The Talmud also contains reincarnation and purgatory doctrines, which you won't find anywhere in the Bible. This is combined with a dualist cosmology, where good and evil are equal and opposite forces, which again is found in the Talmu but not in the Bible. All this stuff, which is highly unbiblical, is inherited from various gnostic sects and Manichaeism, which were very widespread in the Middle East starting around the 2nd century AD (around the area where the Babylonian Talmud was later written). Some of this stuff was likely borrowed in turn from Zoroastrianism, which was also widespread in the region before gnosticism was.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Jews of the Bible. The idea that any of this does come from the ancient Jews of Judea in the First Century, or from any part of the Bible, is based on sheer ignorance.

The Talmud comes from gnostic traditions, which were heresies the 3rd to 5th century AD, and is only a century or so older than Mohammadism. Mohammadism also has a lot of gnostic and Arian influences as well, making it quite similar to Talmudic Judaism, and equally as illegitimate as it. Not to mention historically illiterate.

>>17938858
>>eradicate native cultures to spread your version of judaism
europeans hate admitting the only reason africans and jews can be found outside of their natural containment zones is due to them

>>17947461
Druze, Alawites and Yazidis believe in reincarnation but Mandaeans don't.

They all have gnostic origins.