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Anonymous No.17940091 >>17940099 >>17940116 >>17940122 >>17940156 >>17940165 >>17940189 >>17940227 >>17940701 >>17940703 >>17940706 >>17940771
I think the fundamental difference between fascism and communism is this
Fascist social and economic policies WORK.

>Fascism is a form of socialism.
>The difference between fascism and communism is that socialist policies enacted by fascists are implemented sincerely and competently by an efficient autocratic government.
>Communist and Capitalist governments are run by oligarchs. Neither has any incentive to institute socialist reforms or end poverty. Monarchists have no interest in socialist policies and are completely self interested.

Socialism has only been tried ONCE, by the national socialist party, and it was an outrageous success. It only failed because the old world order opposed it, united against it and destroyed it, because it posed a threat to their power.
Anonymous No.17940099 >>17940100
>>17940091 (OP)
Hitler was the only leader of a first world country that ever made a meaningful effort at addressing wealth inequality during the 20th century. He brought about radical progressive reforms.
Anonymous No.17940100
>>17940099
If you are addressing the wealthy with some complaint, and most of the wealthy people are jews, it should stand to reason that when you are addressing the wealthy, you are addressing the jews.
Anonymous No.17940116
>>17940091 (OP)
Basically, when socialism is successful, its called fascism, and its brought down.
Anonymous No.17940122 >>17940128
>>17940091 (OP)
Fascist states failed HARDER than communist ones. USSR existed longer than third cope.
Anonymous No.17940125 >>17940130 >>17940674 >>17940850
Success is when you chimp out and kill your neighbors to take their shit. The more you chimp out and kill your neighbors the more based it is.

Unless you lose. Then you dindu nuffin and the mean scary allies were encroaching on you or unfairly punishing you o algo so you had to chimp out and kill your neighbors.
Anonymous No.17940128 >>17940914
>>17940122
They were all either drawn into wars where they were severely outnumbered or brought down from sponsored reactionary groups and those who had been disgraced and outed from power.

Every fascist government has met a violent end.
Anonymous No.17940130 >>17940146 >>17940147
>>17940125
They weren't taking their shit. They were just taking their shit BACK.
Anonymous No.17940146
>>17940130
Back from whom? Jews were doctors/merchants long before german villagers come to cities and decided to inact their DEI and take from qualified to non-qualified.
Anonymous No.17940147
>>17940130
That’s right. Poland, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Yugoslavia, Greece, Egypt, the USSR (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Oinkraine, Russia) Italy, Romania, and Hungary are all historically German lands. They were only taking back what is theirs.
Anonymous No.17940156 >>17940158
>>17940091 (OP)
>Socialism has only been tried ONCE
China is fascist in all but name, and it's worked decently for them.
Anonymous No.17940158 >>17940164 >>17940167 >>17940170
>>17940156
Poverty still exists in China.
In Hitlers Germany prior to the war there was no poverty. Poverty had been eliminated.
Anonymous No.17940164 >>17940168
>>17940158
Places like China and Russia allow poverty to exist because without it they would lose their mandate and claim to power. They can never fix the problem because the people will only ever support them so long as poverty exists.
Anonymous No.17940165
>>17940091 (OP)
Fascist economies were built on militarism, aggressive nationalism, and eventually crumbled under their own unsustainable weight and war. They were the opposite of sincere socialism, which seeks worker control, not a totalitarian state serving a dictator and elite.
Anonymous No.17940167
>>17940158
Well China is just a poorer region now than the Germany was at the time.
>but much hyperinflashun!
They were still highly developed even though they were going through an economic crisis. I'm also guessing you're a white supremacist, so that could serve as an explanation as well in your worldview. Doesn't change the fact that China is fascist and it's worked for them.
Anonymous No.17940168 >>17940171 >>17940179
>>17940164
Germany was the only society in history to almost completely eradicate poverty. Without debt you can not force people to do things against their will. Ending Usury brought about the end of poverty.
Anonymous No.17940170
>>17940158
It there was no poverty for whom there were all the famous Nazi soup kitchens for?
Anonymous No.17940171
>>17940168
Retard
Anonymous No.17940179 >>17940183
>>17940168
Germany, prior to the war, had a 98% employment rate. The German autobahn was built in less than 4 years. No other nation has achieved as rapid industrialization and modernization in the history of the world.
Anonymous No.17940183
>>17940179
Anonymous No.17940189 >>17940194 >>17940195
>>17940091 (OP)
The difference between fascism and communism is that fascism actually takes steps to address poverty. It acknowledges who is responsible for the existence of poverty, and systematically removes them from power. I acknowledges that these people will not abdicate power without violence and takes whatever measures are necessary to remove them from power.
Anonymous No.17940194
>>17940189
Look I'm as antisemitic as the next guy but
>poverty is because DA JOOZ
Is as retarded as saying capitalism is the root of all evil.
Anonymous No.17940195 >>17940197
>>17940189
Poverty exists because the people in charge WANT it to exist. Without debt there is no bondage.
Anonymous No.17940197 >>17940218
>>17940195
Anon, Nazi Germany's economy was literally built off debt in the hope that they'd win the war and pay off the debt with their spoils.
Anonymous No.17940218 >>17940223 >>17940225
>>17940197
Fascist economic reforms are generally successful.
Anonymous No.17940223 >>17940226
>>17940218
Hitlers economic reforms were extremely successful.
Anonymous No.17940225
>>17940218
What other examples do you have?
Anonymous No.17940226 >>17940228
>>17940223
Hitler just rode the wave of weimar reforms sucess.
Anonymous No.17940227 >>17940233
>>17940091 (OP)
nordic socialdemocrats where much more succesfull and radical(when it comes to welfare policies) then hitler
Anonymous No.17940228
>>17940226
You're just as retarded as the other guy, the Nazis increased the military spending 10x.
Anonymous No.17940233 >>17940654
>>17940227
And they also were lowkey nazist.
Anonymous No.17940654
>>17940233
nordic socdems actually achieved class collaboration betwen unions and employers unlike nazis and fascists who pretended to care about the working class while banning or supressing trade unions
Anonymous No.17940674
>>17940125
>Success is when you chimp out and kill your neighbors to take their shit. The more you chimp out and kill your neighbors the more based it is.
That's just IE culture for you
Anonymous No.17940701
>>17940091 (OP)
let's follow your own logic
>judeocapitalism "work" (for the jewish bankers)
>everything else doesn't
I hope you're happy with your own conclusions tofl
Anonymous No.17940703 >>17940746
>>17940091 (OP)
here is the ism-chart
Anonymous No.17940706
>>17940091 (OP)
CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
Anonymous No.17940746
>>17940703
>with an idealized past that encouraged individualism
No. What the fuck? Fascism is the definition of anti-individualistic. It's called fascism because they are collectivist...
Anonymous No.17940771
>>17940091 (OP)
IRL, which is a dangerous and exotic place you clearly are not interacting with much, Spain, Portugal&Greece all went down twenty years before the Soviet Union. Fascism, left to its own devices, did not manage to outlive the Communist Block.

Also the main difference is political racism. The Commies generally were politically anti-racist and anti-ethno stateist, even after they dropped the ball on being anti-stateist and generally approached totalitarian, Fascists modes of politics.
Anonymous No.17940772
Commies are right, fascism is a liberal establishment counter revolution against communists, and that's a good thing.
chud No.17940850
>>17940125
this but unironically
Anonymous No.17940914
>>17940128
Francoist Spain didn't