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Anonymous No.17941534 >>17941539 >>17941590 >>17941607 >>17941612 >>17941693 >>17941910 >>17941921 >>17942033 >>17942586 >>17944262
Acceptance of transgenderism in very trad societies?
Is there a specific reason why there were so many examples of very conservative societies tolerating gender fluidity and homosexuality?
>One afternoon, some, days after leaving Dibin, we arrived at a village on the
mainland. The sheikh was away looking at his cultivations, but we were shown to his
mudhif by a boy wearing a head-rope and cloak, with a dagger at his waist. He looked
about fifteen and his beautiful face was made even more striking by two long braids of
hair on either side. In the past all the Madan wore their hair like that, as the Bedu still
did. After the boy had made us coffee and withdrawn, Amara asked, ‘Did you realize
that was a mustarjil?’ I had vaguely heard of them, but had not met one before.
>'A mustarjil is born a woman,’ Amara explained. ‘She cannot help that; but she has
the heart of a man, so she lives like a man.’
>‘Do men accept her?’
>‘Certainly. We eat with her and she may sit in the mudhif. When she dies, we fire off
our rifles to honour her. We never do that for a woman. In Majid’s village there is one
who fought bravely in the war against Haji Sulaiman.’
>‘Do they always wear their hair plaited?’
>‘Usually they shave it off like men.’
>‘Do mustarjils ever marry?’
>‘No, they sleep with women as we do.’

Marsh Arabs (1964) by Wilfrid thesiger
I've read MANY other examples of them here but currently don't have them at hand. feel free to post them anons.
Anonymous No.17941539
>>17941534 (OP)
Moar
>Once, however, we were in a village for a marriage, when the bride, to everyone’s
amazement, was in fact a mustarjil. In this case she had agreed to wear women’s
clothes and to sleep with her husband on condition that he never asked her to do
women’s work. The mustarjils were much respected, and their nearest equivalent
seemed to be the Amazons of antiquity. I met a number of others during the following
years. One man came to me with what I took for his twelve-year-old son, suffering from
colic, but when I wanted to examine the child, the father said, ‘He is a mustarjil.’ On
another occasion I attended a man with a fractured skull. He had fought with a mustarjil
whom I knew, and had got the worst of it.
Previously, while staying with Hamud, Majid’s brother, I was sitting in the diwaniya
when a stout middle-aged woman shuffled in, enveloped in the usual black draperies,
and asked for treatment. She had a striking, rather masculine face, and lifting her skirt
exposed a perfectly normal full-sized male organ. ‘Will you cut this off and turn me into
a proper woman?’ he pleaded. I had to confess that the operation was beyond me. When
he had left, Amara asked compassionately, ‘Could they not do it for him in Basra?
Except for that, he really is a woman, poor thing.’ Afterwards I often noticed the same
man washing dishes on the river bank with the women. Accepted by them, he seemed
quite at home. These people were kinder to him than we would have been in our
society
Anonymous No.17941590 >>17941697
>>17941534 (OP)
Probably because it was an issue outside of politics. Now it's become an inseparable part of Leftism™ so many people find it very cringe because they find leftism cringe.
This is the wildest example btw:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshiko_Kawashima
Anonymous No.17941607 >>17941672
>>17941534 (OP)
Unironically because they were sodomites. You see it in Afghanistan today among other places.

>These people were kinder to him than we would have been in our society
Their society was probably "nicer" to cannibals who raped children too. That's the sign of being progressive and tolerant, after all.
Anonymous No.17941612
>>17941534 (OP)
They're pagans. They're conserving the standards of other Gods.
Anonymous No.17941672
>>17941607
bacha bazi boys
>gross
Anonymous No.17941693 >>17941701
>>17941534 (OP)
The year is 2500 BC. You want to do more feminine tasks so you are assigned more feminine tasks. The psychology of it all ends about there.

4500 years later, liberal archeologists discover your remains and claim it's now OK to multilate children because you were literally a woman.

Daily reminder that transgenders can't even decide is AGP (99% of trans cases) is legit transgenderism.
Big Bongus !!9zfcclmmPlH No.17941697
>>17941590
Mobile users should be genocided
Anonymous No.17941701
>>17941693
*if AGP is legit transgenderism*

(it's not)
Anonymous No.17941717
>muslims love trannys
ok? go to their countries
Anonymous No.17941749
>they sleep with women
>not young men to break them in
Not a real man
Anonymous No.17941910 >>17942654
>>17941534 (OP)
This isn't a good board for you /lgbt/. Too slow, too much room for so-called rational argument.
Anonymous No.17941921 >>17943306
>>17941534 (OP)
Most of them were non-white, for starters. Transgenderism is a brown mind virus that Europeans contacted through intermingling.
Anonymous No.17942033
>>17941534 (OP)
Because, ultimately, it doesn't matter. Some men do women stuff, some women do men stuff. What changes? How does their society look different from before? It basically doesn't. It's a giant fucking nothingburger.

People are obsessed with these random inconsequential "problems" they have invented to get mad at. If a "problem" goes away completely by doing absolutely nothing, it's not a problem.
I don't even think it's a conspiracy, people are just retarded.
Anonymous No.17942526
I've heard South Asia has a similar thing going on.
Anonymous No.17942586 >>17943365
>>17941534 (OP)
Transsexuals are just eunuchs by another name. Why shouldn't effeminate men be castrated?
Anonymous No.17942654 >>17943669
>>17941910
Homophobes aren't rational.
Anonymous No.17943178
Anonymous No.17943306
>>17941921
/HIS/ is still butthurt about female skelettons in wiking warrior graves.
Anonymous No.17943365
>>17942586
>Why shouldn't effeminate men be castrated
Because it's a mental illness and wrong. Just because someone is born that way, doesn't mean you should take his dick away. Faggot.
Anonymous No.17943669
>>17942654
>the strawman I made up isn't rational
Anyone who isn't 'homosexual' is a damn fool. If you don't recognize the aestheticism and sexual power of men, you're willfully ignoring it. That's ok, most chads are securely in the midwit category, but it is what it its.
Furthermore, anyone who isn't heterosexual is a damaged person.
Either you're held back developmentally and don't realize the power of sex, have body hang-ups, or negative experiences with the opposite sex. There's no option for genetic determinism. Transgenderism is merely a recognition and anticipation of the post-sexuality world to come.
Anonymous No.17944262
>>17941534 (OP)
This was rarely the case btw
Must be 1 in 12 million