Thread 17943172

Black lady claims African cultures have no concept of time or future with some languages not having words describing future events. That's why Africans only live in the moment and don't plan ahead.
https://x.com/GodCloseMyEyes/status/1958576312764768377

Yet when my /pol/bros say that it's racist pseudoscience hmmmmm

>>17943172 (OP)
That explains a lot honestly

>>17943172 (OP)
Finnish doesn't have a future tense either, yet they are good planners. it's no excuse

>>17943172 (OP)
there is an amerindian culture in the south american andes where people think the past is forward and the future is backwards

>muh linguistic relativism
you can make the argument how bridge is masculine in spanish thus spanish pipo will attach masculine traits to the idea of a bridge, and bridge is feminine in Portuguese thus portuguese pipo would think the bridge as pretty or typical feminine traits. However it doesn't make it true.
Also majority of the sub-saharan languages are bantu, which verbs are conjugated based on tense. At least in swahili, there is a pretty cut and dry past, present and future tense.

>>17943172 (OP)
Some anon made a post about this like 10 years ago

>>17943182
Having to survive winters kinda forces a culture to develop planning sense.

>>17943196
Cold winters theory is bullshit. Not to mention winter is not remotely special at all. Most notable civs developed in warm or hot climates.

>>17943182
>yet they are good planners
Where?

>>17943173
It doesn't unless you are a monolingual retard who takes retarded shittakes on the internet as fact.

>>17943263
>Most notable civs developed in warm or hot climates.
By which standards are they most notable? They aren't most famous nor did they contribute most to the advancement of civliaztion

>>17943312
The first known civilisations emerged in Africa and the Middle East

>>17943312
>By which standards are they most notable?
Couldn't even type in a basic search engine question before asking the mist basic question known to man?

Are you retarded? There’s over 10,000 African languages of various families. And even if your assertion was true, not having a future tense doesn’t mean you don’t have a concept of future events. My first language is Arabic and we don’t have a future tense either.

Your source by a random non-linguist on twitter stapling together metaphysical musings by another non-lingust theologian in the 90s is the cherry on top.

Now please kill yourself.

>>17943318
maybe instead of "most notable" just say first?
Also CWT doesn't say it's impossible for civilizations to emerge in subtropical climates it says that an environment where three months out of the year temperatures drop to the point where it becomes impossible to survive outside and all crops die will select for higher intelligence in humans. Which is supported by national IQ scores.

>>17943356
>My first language is Arabic and we don’t have a future tense either.
oh you showed us here Achmed

They don't have a word for future, but they can conceive it.

>>17943363
Its all still hullshit because CWT hinges on a total lack of understanding of climate locally and globally.

>>17943366
Chinese has no tenses, Japanese doesnt have a future tense, English doesn't. Many Asian languages don't have tenses or don't structure them around time. Many languages don't use articles.

>>17943172 (OP)
Then why da say "finna do"?

>>17943172 (OP)
Op = faggot

>>17943376
English has multiple forms of future tense. Simple, continuous, perfect, and perfect continous tense are the most common, but others exist for more niche uses (like prophetic perfect)

>>17943391
Can you explain why you’re OK with gonna but finna is incomprehensible to you?

Going to = Fixing to

>>17943408
>English has multiple forms of future tense
That aren't the conventional future tenses actually seen in lanuages like French. English tenses the future the way Bantu ones do (or Japanese).

I think they know future but just don't care enough.

>>17943397
Hey man go tell that to the African woman who made that tik-tok. Or she is a Stormfag as well?

>>17943376
>English doesn't.

>>17943616
English conjugates only for past and present. To express something will happen in the future, you use the extra word "will" to denote that. This is how all languages without future tense work.

>>17943172 (OP)
>Black lady...
Retarded amerimutt thread.

>>17943619
wtf are you talking about bruh

>>17943183
>some amerindians are chuds who think the past was better than the gay present and future
Based

>>17943172 (OP)
Difficult to believe. How would they farm, hunt, and etc. then?

>>17943182
Not having a separate set of conjugations for a grammatical future tense isn't the same as lacking words that deal with the future entirely. Finnish has more than enough words and structures that deal with and express the future, like "the day after tomorrow" or "when". Sicilian is the same, you use the verb "to go" to create the future tense, as in "I'm going to do X". The point is that many African languages don't or didn't have any way to speak of the future at all before influence from European languages.

>>17943624
I'm explaining English grammar to you.

>>17943265
I am that monolingual retard. Come at me, Jamal.

>>17943789
>The point is that many African languages don't or didn't have any way to speak of the future at all before influence from European languages.
This obviously isn't true and it's utterly embarrassing you believe this.

Content created to appeal to western leftoids and their love for magical negroes

Nigerians don't even like other nigerians from a different ethnic group so i doubt black africans would like to be known in a simple catch all term

>>17943798
It is true. Isolated tribal languages can be extremely primitive. What do you find so impossible to believe?

>>17943623
Are these "Amerimutts" in the room with us right now?

>>17943817
>Isolated tribal languages can be extremely primitive.
Not really unless you mean not having certain yerms, but that applies to literally every language since borrowing things from other languages has been done since forever. Also all those "tribals" had countless contact with a ton of other groups and languages. You just fail (or refuse) to notice.

>>17943789
>The point is that many African languages don't or didn't have any way to speak of the future at all before influence from European languages.
Then why do you not take notice to Asian languages or English then?

>>17943817
They are not "isolated tribal languages", though.

Language control thoughts. For example english has no gendered words and that's why they struggle with a concept of gender unlike russians or french.

>>17943884
>For example english has no gendered words
blond/blonde
fiancé/fiancée
waiter/waitress

>>17943789
>The point is that many African languages don't or didn't have any way to speak of the future at all before influence from European languages.

1. What is your evidence of this? How many Niger-Congo, Nilo-Saharan, Afro-Asiatic, or Khoisan languages do you speak fluently?

2. How many of the 10k African languages is “many”?

You are a lying piece of shit

>>17943817
>I will continue to make wild baseless assertions about thousands of languages I know nothing about

>>17943889
French

Hey guys. English doesn’t use Noun Classes.

Anglos are physically incapable of comprehending the idea of ontology

>>17943172 (OP)
[Citations Needed] i dont give a fuck what some bitch on twitter has to say

>>17943817
>Isolated tribal languages
How the fuck is 50 million l1 speakers "tribal". Most native European language speakers in Europe would get swamped by even mere regional/provincial languages in Asia. Makes no sense to apply an arbitrary yardstick as a comparison

>>17943172 (OP)
Blacks just proving they are worthless slaves

>>17943924
We don't speak ebonics here friend, you point don't make any sense still, out of context, empty words, flatus vocis

>>17943619
>English conjugates only for past and present.
Future simple
Future continuous
Future perfect and
Future perfect continuous
5 seconds on Google
Dont ever talk again

>>17943802
>Content created to appeal to western leftoids and their love for magical negroes
I came here to say this
Nonsensical and vague doesnt even begin to describe the retard's Twitter post
Someone has pointed out in this thread already but some count over 3000 languages are spoken in Africa today with over 500 in Nigeria alone
>some languages in Africa dont have the fuchuurr durrrrrr
Jesus fucking Christ
Similar vibe to the "Eskimos have over a bajillion words for snow!!1"

Twitter is the worst thing that has happened to humanity.

>>17943182
and ancient greeks didn't have a word for blue
sub-saharan africans are just natural retards

So is it bullshit?

>>17944306
>auxiliary 'will'
>auxiliary 'will' + 'be'
>auxiliary 'will' + 'have'
>auxiliary 'will' + 'have' + 'been'
Done.
Compare French where there is actual conjugation (mange -> mangerai) and future form made with auxiliary (il mange -> il va manger).

>>17944306
Are you stupid?

Proto-Indo-European didn't have a distinction between Present and Future (it hardly had any tense distinction at all), but between non-past and past like so many Indo-European languages basically still do today. All Germanic languages have only two synthetic tenses (present and past), the rest is periphrastic. even Modern English only has past and non-past. “will" acts in all ways like a modal verb, complete with having a preterite, "would", which can be used for a future-in-past. English has a far more complicated (periphrastic) tense system than Dutch, German etc, due to French influence. And the use of these periphrastic tenses is considerably more common than in most, if not all other Germanic languages. In German, they often don't use future tense at all (just using the present instead) and don't make a big distinction between periphrastic perfect and synthetic past. English has more specific rules for these tenses/aspects.

According to your own logic Anglophones can’t comprehend the future.

>>17944291
Instead of backing up your wild assertions you now claim that you can’t understand what has been asked of you

>>17944361
It's a random twitter screenshot thread, of course it's bullshit

>>17944493
Most of the "historical posts" in social media are entire bullshit.
If one wants to learn history he needs to go to actual historical essays and articles, done by especialized people, not just a bitch whose main source is her ass

>>17944499
That should be obvious, but there are people out there that genuinely and earnestly get all their knowledge about history and philanthropy from social media grifters and what's even worse is they wear anti-intellectualism as a badge of pride and honor for having "not fallen for the establishment narrative". We are currently experiencing peak Dark Enlightenment

>>17943802
>>17944313
>Content created to appeal to western leftoids and their love for magical negroes
>I came here to say this
>Nonsensical and vague doesnt even begin to describe the retard's Twitter post
The vast majority of twitter is basically bots and brown grifters trying to hope on the new alt-right trend to cash out on.

>>17944740
and the OPs lined account is just another generic alt-right retweet farm. What the woman said isn't even controversial since many cultures have cyclic view of time.

>>17943172 (OP)
Unironically true. They are anatomically incapable of projecting into the Future. The Leftoids call this "Polychronic time keeping" and the Jeets are just as guilty. Many of dhey Cultures don't even have words for numbers beyond 3 or 4. Anything more is just "a lot", and this is true with the Abos, the Junglefolk of the Amazon and SSA. Only Eurasians are capable of Scientific thought.

They are animals that can only live in the moment, like a fish or lizard.

>>17943609
>african
She isn't. She's black.

>>17943938
Seethe more, Hector

>>17943609
No, just wildly uneducated on the subject

Jesus Christ, what is with fascists and your “I have a black friend!” complex?

>>17943802
Wood desu

>>17943172 (OP)
>Trusting an idiot on Twitter
Gee, it's almost like ignorant people lie or something! Remember when a bunch of retards on here began unironically believing in giants? This is the group you're a part of.

>>17944938
There's also the possibility that she's flat out wrong.

Ah, yes... the continent that had already developed agriculture for at least centuries in most regions by the time europeans arrived somehow didnt have a concept of the future... You know, agriculture? The thing that requires you to sow seeds and tend to crops and animals so you can get food in the FUTURE?

>>17944979
That's not so much a possibility as the only other reality that can lead to the delusion of that video.

>>17945093
>the continent
Every civilization bordering the med sea was originally peopled by whites, and so was every "river valley" civilization you ever heard of. It is only in modern times that liars have decided they have the chance to rewrite history to claim otherwise, and anyone who knows anything about it realized such claims are asinine.

>>17945104
Meds

>>17944911
Baste

>>17945104
>Canaanites were white
How can you muster the bravery to speak when both your higher functioning and lower functioning organs are the size of peas?

>>17945104
They were brown, but they did have caucasoid features, just like menas.
Skin color has to do with the enviroment.
Thats why you have amerindians being brown despite being half ANE half mongoloid.
The same with egyptians or summerians for example, which most of them were brown as it is shown in mural paintings

>>17945152
brown people exist because of sacrilegious pairings that spawn abominations which are abhorrent.

>>17945164
You are the reason forums like this are a shit.
When one wants to bave an actual intelectual discussion theres a retard that just answersnto your arguments with nothing but jokes and insults.
Theres others which i also dislike who answer with twitter, chatgpt, or 4chan posts rather than with actual academical articles or essays

>>17945174
>actual intellectual discussion
What I have explained to you is not my idea, and it was the commonly held belief for thousands of years. Brown people are abominations which destroy civilizations.

>>17945179
ayo we wuz atlantis n shieet

>>17945179
What in that cartel talks about brown people

>>17943172 (OP)
They brains just built different.
>>17943263
The cradle of civilization was advanced considering how far back it goes and hot.

>>17945185
>What in that talks about brown people?
the second part

I've been thinking that a lack of empathy from people is not that they don't or won't but that they fundamentally can't. They lack the IQ to actually do it. You can be an asshole and be able to have empathy and just go "Fuck it, they have to be treated badly because of XYZ". It's not just the browns and the blacks either a whole heaping lot of 4chan has it. Then again given 4chan's audience maybe I am wrong and it is just them. But either way, you can see people where if you ask them an ethical equivalent of
>How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?
Like "How would you feel if it happened to you/if you were in their shoes"
They'd be unable to engage it. They'll say they don't want to (won't), but I think it's very often they just fundamentally can't. They can't project or hypothesize themselves because they are that much of a demented animal. Like it's almost more solipsism than sadism.

>>17943172 (OP)
When a Black woman speaks, I sit my white ass down and listen

>>17945203
>How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?
That hypothetical was mad by a midwit judge and got before by a street thug. It's not even remotely an ethical or moral question.

>>17945213
Worst part is that there were 1000 way to come up with a better question and he came up with something that can be defeated with a short quip. Hell you can juts say "I dunno wait for brunch" and the judge would have NOTHING to work with. There are way more juvenile comparisons and analogies on this site that have more logical weight to them and this judge man who graduated from a law school couldn't even asspull a decent one.

>>17944769
>They are anatomically incapable of projecting into the Future.
Humans generally can't. 10 years into the future is just as abstract and unknown as 200 years.

>Only Eurasians are capable of Scientific thought.
Lmao. Worst part is you forgot many states in Europe are cutting their education budgets because of the boomer voting population and "gearing up" for Russia.

>>17943172 (OP)
>Find special rock
>puts rock in fire
>few days later rocks melt into iron bars
>beats iron bars into shape blade
>Use sharp blade to conquer other Bantu tribes

Somehow an African who took a week to make a simple iron spear can't plan ahead or see future events

Let’s get one thing straight before anyone starts jerking off over IQ charts or seasonal climates: the claim that “Africans can’t conceive the future” is not intellectually lazy, because really objectively retarded. It misreads what anthropologists like John Mbiti actually say.
Mbiti observed that many traditional African cultures organize time differently. Time isn’t a straight line stretching infinitely forward, nor a cosmic wheel endlessly repeating. It’s event-based. Past is what happened. Present is what’s happening. “Future” only exists if it’s tied to a concrete event you can anticipate: harvest, initiation, migration, seasonal rains. If no event is scheduled, there is no “time” in the abstract. That is not ignorance or stupidity. It’s simply a different cognitive framework that fits the environment and social needs. No snow? No need to obsess over six months ahead. That doesn’t make anyone dumb, so it makes sense in context.
Western culture treats time as a linear abstraction, a container to be filled, measured, and manipulated. This allows for grand-scale planning: industrialization, rockets, satellites. But it also produces wars on an unprecedented scale, climate collapse, and a culture obsessed with abstract progress. Linear time = potential for technological marvels and catastrophe. Event-based time = local efficiency, cultural cohesion, survival without unnecessary abstraction.
IQ tests designed by Western societies will always favor linear-future thinking, because they measure abilities optimized for a Western conception of time. To extrapolate from those numbers that African societies are “dumber” is not science. It’s racism masquerading as rationalism. The idea that seasonal context dictates intelligence in some universal, measurable way is complete horseshit. Intelligence manifests differently depending on culture, environment, and societal structure.
Also, in any way, this is not across all of Sub-Saharan Africa. Lots of /pol/tard immigrants here.

>>17945519
>IQ tests designed by Western societies will always favor linear-future thinking, because they measure abilities optimized for a Western conception of time.
I don't get this part. What does repeating a sequence of numbers in reverse order have anything to do with our conception of time? Or rotating 3D objects in your mind? Or being good at high school math? And why is it that blacks in America do poorly on IQ tests when they grew up in Western culture?

>>17945519
140 IQ /his/torian
>>17945593
70 IQ /pol/tard

>>17945593
Iq tests are a diagnostic test made for an explicit use case. It's not really meant to "rank" test takers.

>>17943927
>>17943829
>>17943877
>>17944110
so are you going to post one those 80 word languages that has a term for "future"?

>>17943182
Strange. Why don't they? They had to prepare for the winter to survive as well.

>>17946370
bruh what
The IQ scale is all about rank order. The number you score on a test means nothing only how good or bad you are relative to other test takers

>>17946313
yeah I should have written wall of text of word salad to impress you

>>17945104
>originally peopled by whites

>>17943172 (OP)
Black Americans are a reflection of America without any outer influence.
Their situation is not caused by missing words in a language that none of them speak anymore.

>>17946449
>The number you score on a test means nothing only how good or bad you are relative to other test takers
Not even close. IQ tests are first and firmost diagnostics tests used in education to help create an IEP.

>>17946398
You can just Google those. Like if that giy posts slop why should anyone do his homework for him if he won't even read it. If someone gives him 80 he can just push the goalpsts back and ask for 81 and so on and so forth.

>>17946451
>wall of text
This gen is fucked

>>17946592
>Not even close. IQ tests are first and firmost diagnostics tests used in education to help create an IEP.
This hasn't been true since Alfred Binet. Even still, back when it was used to identify kids with disabilities it was still a rank order test. That's not mutually exclusive

>>17946600
>This hasn't been true since Alfred Binet
It's still primarily used for that you legit mong.

>Even still, back when it was used to identify kids with disabilities it was still a rank order test.
It was used to teat in both directions. In this day it STILL is used for that as well as particularly testing to specific strengths and weaknesses in a child.

>>17946616
And comparing it between countries is peak retardation because tests are designed and standardized on particular basis and the results are only relevant and comparable when comparing samples drawn from the samples from the same population.

>>17943172 (OP)
Almost no one in the theead watched the video itself which isn’t about future tenses in language but conceiving of time differently
>Western = time is linear and rigid
>African = time only exists when it is created by moments
I’d spoonfeed you retards more but you don’t deserve it

>>17946679
This. It's so clueless to think they don't have a future, /his/ is brimming with /pol/tards who jump to conclusions for the sake of ideology.

>>17946313
>Let’s get one thing straight before anyone starts jerking off over IQ charts
Not literally, correct?

>>17945519
>IQ tests designed by Western societies will always favor linear-future thinking, because they measure abilities optimized for a Western conception of time
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17946715
Notice how you have no real argument? Back to /pol/ with you, retard.

>>17946620
It measures whatever abilities it measures wiyh subtests and as it so happens, those subtests point to a generalized ability that denotes intelligence. You could just say that intelligence is just not their thing and move on.

>>17946792
>those subtests point to a generalized ability that denotes intelligence
It doesn't. How one girl scores 109 and how another one score 109 is vastly different. IQ isn't some power level bs.

>>17946822
Those differences are applications but a similar score indicates a similar potential. Remember these subtests correlate and if g wasn't a thing, there would be no correlation.

>>17946851
>indicates a similar potential
That's extremely vague nonsense.

>>17946851
G only just says how fast can learn and how well you can master or grapple with complex questions. It's not really a magic stat.

>>17943172 (OP)
If this was because of African brain structure, wouldn't we see something similar in Africans speaking Western languages?

>>17945498
>>puts rock in fire
>>few days later rocks melt into iron bars
blacks actually are subhuman retards

>>17946999
You want him to drop a 2000 word essay with citations and pirated pdf links from university journals?

>>17944306
Periphrastic future is not the same as synthetic future.

>>17943183
Tbh that framing kinda makes sense, because you can only see what is in front of you just like you can only see/know what's already happened

>>17943182
Finnish is a barbaric mongol language akin to african ones

>>17943172 (OP)
Whenever someone says "Africa" they're a fucking retard. Africa is absolutely massive. Just the distance from Ghana to Ethiopia is the same as Britain to Moscow. Saying "Africa " does this or that is completely meaningless, they're thousands of cultures on the African continent.

>>17947518
But that vid in the OP brought up specific cases and highlighted text frommwhere she sourced it.

>>17946857
It's not that hard to understand.

>>17946874
>G only just says how fast can learn and how well you can master or grapple with complex questions.
Voila, that's intelligence. Idk if you're the guy who I was talking to earlier or not. If you are, you finally got it, if you aren't, lend me a hand in helping that poor fellow. Different gs for different types of intelligences haven't really been identified (mainly verbal and nonverbal). I used to be a believer in at least two of the aforementioned types of intelligences but I'm not so sure now, mostly ambivalent on the issue.

>>17947768
You can't solely rely on G as measure of competence or how good a person is at work. At best it's for correlation but even among many high IQ people many don't have an even spread so to speak.

>>17947806
Didn't say that you could "solely rely on G as measure of competence or how good a person is at work". Other factors also matter like conscientiousness.

>>17946996
They're poor planners so yes we would.

>>17946874
>G only just says how fast can learn and how well you can master or grapple with complex questions
Gee I wonder if that could possibly have any effect on how groups act in society.

>>17943183
that's trolls in the Discworld series.

>>17945093
>the continent that had already developed agriculture
africa never developed agriculture, it borrowed it.
agriculture was invented three or four separate times (fertile crescent, papua new guinea and mesoamerica), with the possibility of rice farming being an independent fourth development.

>>17946616
Do you remember anybody in your school having their IQ tested? Exactly.
IQ today is mostly used in military and during admissions for certain jobs. And determining which criminals are too stupid to stand trial

>>17946620
You are just talking out of your ass. There is nothing about IQ construction that says you can't compare scores of two populations. Is it peak retardation to compare scores between men and women too? Because you might be the only person in the world who thinks that.

>>17946716
Notice how you had no argument against this?>>17945593

>>17947970
Why would I reply to a braindead /pol/tard? Figure it out on your own, retard, I shouldn't have to explain extremely basic concepts.

>>17948023
You've been talking to poltards this whole thread you've been (trying) to explain how IQ world since yesterday but responding to someone who pushes back is suddenly beneath you.

Right.

>>17943172 (OP)
The entire concept is nonsense from a linguistic perspective. English doesn't have a future tense either- we have to paraphrase it with "will" (a word referring to intention) or "shall" (a word referring to obligation). But we still think about the future. Or, to take another example, there are languages where you have to conjugate the verb to state how you know something happened (saw it yourself, was told by someone, inferred from evidence, etc). We don't have that in English, but we can still easily think about the concept of "how do you know that".

>>17943789
>The point is that many African languages don't or didn't have any way to speak of the future at all before influence from European languages.
This is a pretty extraordinary claim, do you have any evidence for it?
>>17946398
>he thinks there are human languages with only 80 words
LOL. LMAO even.

>>17943356
>There’s over 10,000 African languages of various families.
>>17943924
>2. How many of the 10k African languages is “many”?
This is a nitpick, but 10,000 is a drastic overestimate considering there are only 6 to 7 thousand languages spoken on Earth by most estimates. Linguists cataloging African languages have also historically been overly eager to speciate closely-related, largely mutually intelligible varieties. There are still a lot of languages in Africa, though- point taken on that.

Average wignat refuses to believe this but its the truth black are a complete product of the US not Africa,

99 percent of their social behavior mostly stems from how they were raised in the US you see little of this behavior in other black ethnic groups around the world

>>17950350
>99 percent of their social behavior mostly stems from how they were raised in the US you see little of this behavior in other black ethnic groups around the world
That applies to like every group.

>>17947966
>Do you remember anybody in your school having their IQ tested?
Yes. The school I went to did diagnostix testing for specific fields as well as broad intelligence. That's why IQ is mainly used for.

>IQ today is mostly used in military and during admissions for certain jobs.
The military uses a custom test as standin. No jobs actually tests for IQ because its a retarded area when you already have 100+criteria to filter people.

>There is nothing about IQ construction that says you can't compare scores of two populations. Is it peak retardation to compare scores between men and women too?
It has to be drawn from the SAME POPULATION. Anything else and comparisons fall fall. Its why all IQ testing comparisons don't do shitty globe wide ones nowadays. For you to get any worthwhile conclusions and hypothesis you have to make sure the two sets of data as close to each other as possible

>>17950403
IQ when quantified is just a number like any other quantity. What you are saying is like saying that you can't compare height between populations or something because who even knows what standing upright even means. Here is a hint: it is about consistency across populations and about repeatable verification. That has been done. It's time to move on to better criticisms like expanding the number of subtests and poking around what g even is, there might be multiple gs and that's a more sound criticisms than the solipsism you display.

>>17950546
>What you are saying is like saying that you can't compare height between populations or something because who even knows what standing upright even means
IQ of a population is the mean. Comparing means is only relevant if the samples in question are drawn from the same general population OR you apply the SAME sample criteria when you draw up data from multiple independent populations

>>17950546
problem is height gives you a quantifiable meaning to things out side the test

how much faster would a guy with a IQ of 110 beat portal then a guy with an IQ of 90

give me an answer now

well uh, we would just assume
>assume

height
if he's 5,5 would he hit his head on a 4,4 ceiling? yes

>>17950554
That's the point.

>>17950561
I don't know about how much faster off hand (I have heard of certain proposed differences for every few points but dont have confidence in them much like I don't have much confidence in the angle of the 5'5 person's knee would need to bend to accommodate a 4'4 height limit since that would rely on things like leg length to torso length ratios among other factors) but the difference in the IQ can be used to predict a number differences in outcomes of various events so yes, in a way it is indeed like saying that a 5'5 person would hit his head on a 4'4 ceiling.

>>17950585
irl
120 IQ: person is too egotistical because they know they are smarter then most people. refuses to read related material to their desired job, because muh smart

90 IQ: reads related material for their desired job because uh thats what people do.

120 IQ: doesnt know what the fuck they are doing and gets fired
90 IQ: read a fucking book and knows what the fuck they are doing.

>thats retarded
happens

some smart people forget you actually have to study shit and most jobs are actually education based and can be done by most IQ's. its not just a matter of cognitive ability but actually studying of the material.

>>17950585
>IQ can be used to predict a number differences in outcomes of various events
But in the real world it really can't, because people don't exist in a vacuum and there are confounding factors the contribute to your success or lack thereof that have a bigger impact than IQ does. Chris Langan will never be anything more than an online grifter despite his supposed high IQ and there are engineers working for NASA that have accomplished far more with less IQ than him. If you were to apply for a job at a Fortune 500 company with your only qualification being an IQ test certificate you'd be laughed out the door.

A south african professor gave a presentation at American Renaissance called "The closing of the African mind".

Basically, all the behaviors that blacks are deficient in correspond entirely to the concepts they're missing in their native languages. They don't have words for degrees, you can't say "half way up the tree" just "up the tree", there's no word for "maintenance". Even "promise" has no word in many African languages. Even today, when pressed, many Africans think promise means "Maybe I'll do it, maybe I won't".

There's no word for "luck" either, making them really prone to zero sum thinking. If you got ahead in life, you're casting black magic spells to take the success away from the other guy.

>>17950350
You see Blacks in London have the exact same 13:50 ratio as blacks in the US, and these are voluntary migrants.

Even Canadian blacks have similar crime rates.

>>17950631
>You see Blacks in London have the exact same 13:50 ratio as blacks in the US
I find this hard to believe

this is what you do all day everyday?
post twatter screenshots and deepthroat dildos?
jobless bum...

>>17950627
>American Renaissance
lmao how old are you? Who the fuck reads Amren in 2025? Are you some brown guy who just found the article reposted elsewhere.

>>17943391
Hausa is an afroasiatic language related to berber/egyptian/semitic languages

>>17950403
>It has to be drawn from the SAME POPULATION. Anything else and comparisons fall fall

Well humans are of one race the human race so they are the same population right?

>>17950642
Plug in actual numbers
>London black population:1,288,370
>London total murders: 105
>Black percentage: 40 percent
>London total black murders: 40
40 murders out of 1.2 million blacks is nothing nigs live in a city full of low testosteroned Jeets/Pakis rapist of course their percentage is higher....

Meanwhile in the US Portland OR, had 66 black on black murders while the black population is 37,502... that's actually scary and a US phenomenon

>>17951094
I wonder how much of that discrepancy is due the lax US gun laws allowing them to kill each other more easily

>>17950350
Blacks are poor, stupid and dysfunctional just about in every country that published data on it. Canada, UK, Denmark you name it. You will always find blacks are poorer and more criminal than whites.

>>17950403
>It has to be drawn from the SAME POPULATION. Anything else and comparisons fall fall.
says who

>>17951219
>Canada and European stats be like:
>"niggers commit 40 percent of the murder in the city its getting dangerous"
>Looks up the city
>Black population: 300,000 Total murders: 15


>>17951215
Even without guns blacks in the US have a high rates of stabbings and beating each other to death

>>17951407
>Even without guns blacks in the US have a high rates of stabbings and beating each other to death
I don't think we have data on beating people to death but oi sound confident so I'll believe you

>>17951407
It's SIGNIFICANTLY harder to kill someone by stabbing or beating them. You need to be very determined and pretty strong.

>>17947864
Except we don't see it in samples of writing or speaking.

>>17946313
>140 IQ /his/torian

>>17951448
>Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)
the black percentage in these categories go up to 65 percent

>>17951497
Was he acoustic

>>17943183
thats from eating picrel

>>17951507
That seems pretty small.

>>17951094
And 105 murders is pretty small for a super dense city.

>>17945519
Can you imagine an Afro-centric IQ test that would measure some underlying G-factor over various cerebral tasks and that would show Africans having a clear advantage over Europeans? If you can, I'd like to see it. If you can't, your message is baseless conjecture and unscientific ideological propaganda.

>>17951215
The majority of firearms on Earth are in the hands of US Civilians
So by this logic the US should have the highest rate of gun violence on Earth but it doesn't. Which makes this a stupid argument, the US is not even in the top 60 most violent countries on Earth. It's more violent than Europe, but guns clearly shouldn't be considered the sole cause of this (and neither should "muh blacks!" just so we're clear)

>>17943172 (OP)
That's a blessing for them if true. But don't just deprecate the future, deprecate the past too, since neither exist.

>>17951094
>that's actually scary
It's really not unless you're an extreme Agoraphobe and scelerophobe who never goes outside and only experiences reality vicariously through social media and random graphs

>>17943183
This is good. Leads to realizing they "meet" at t=0 (the everlasting present)

>>17950595
>contrived scenario about some cases
It really doesn't mean anything.
Why would the smarter person not reading stuff, intelligence positively correlates with openness and only mildly negatively correlates with conscientiousness so the contrived scenario is unrealistic.

Here is a more realistic one.
90 IQ person: reads stuff, but barely gets it
120 IQ person: reads stuff, gets it better and does better.

>>17950598
>But in the real world it really can't
Not only can it, but it already has.

> there are confounding factors the contribute to your success or lack thereof that have a bigger impact than IQ does
IQ is one of the biggest individual factors but yes there are other factors that add up to a lot. What I don't understand is why you can't square that with IQ adding predictive power when it's used vs when it's not used.

>Chris
Extreme case scenario, doesn't know who his real father was. His mother was the daughter of a rich industrialist (rich single mothers are already rare to begin with) and she ended up with one bum after another to be a stepfather for her son. A relatively lower IQ person like a NASA engineer would probably have become a street criminal with that kind of upbringing.

>your only qualification
Anti-IQ gang just cannot stop thinking about things in black and white.

Why don't we just exterminate all Africans?

>>17945519
>stop being heckin' raycist against heckin' NEGROES alright??
Why does /leftroonpol/ defend coons so vehemently?

>>17952052
>your message is baseless conjecture and unscientific ideological propaganda.
You read that in some article and parroted that here lol. Shit's so blatant Helen Keller can spot it a mile away.

>>17952801
>Here is a more realistic one.
That's not even remotely realistic. 90 IQ people can get things they read. The vast majority of the people in the past would be sub 90 in today's standards and they understood what they read. 120 IQ is not has large as you think. It's only 1 SD above the 100 mean and still within margin of error so that 120 could be really a 118 or 115.

>>17952801
>A relatively lower IQ person like a NASA engineer would probably have become a street criminal with that kind of upbringing.
So you are telling me that a ~100 IQ guy would have been a criminal? Chris Landan basically spent his years doing shitty jobs with the occasional stint in some decent ones before getting dropped because he was pretty anti-social

>>17953096
Never did I defend niggers, the only difference is that I'm not a /pol/fag retard and I actually know what the fuck I'm talking about, unlike /pol/ monkeys who put thought behind ideology.
I'm not advocating for niggers to be in my country, I'm not advocating for niggers to be my neighbor, I'm telling you the truth how it is and you're getting butthurt over it because you're a /pol/brain retard who doesn't understand anything about history or humanities.

>>17953100
People in the past didn't deal with a workplace as demanding as the ones today. Stuff was cognitively easier. And yes it's more realistic because it doesn't assume any implicite correlation that would result un the 120 iq person not reading or whatever. Actual data shows that iq correlates with openness so even if it's something that he's not interested in the 120 iq guy is more likely to get into it than the 90 iq guy. Not to mention workplace performance being predicted by it and more complex work performance being better predicted by it than simpler jobs. Please back up anything you say with data because all of your arguments against me have been conjured stuff that are generally only true in your head and specifically only true in a few cases in the real world to the point where they are moot while I have to keep grounding you again and again.

>>17953101
A 100 IQ guy would fare worse than even the potential NASA engineer. 100 iq guys with those kinds of childhoods end up as criminals yes.

>>17943263
>Most notable civs developed in warm or hot climates.
Flood plane civs needed even more planning.

Besides they all died off as soon as there was even a little climate change, not comparable at all to harsh northern climate winter civs which are the greatest and arguably only continuous civilizations.

>>17953758
The pivotal civs grew up around the same latitude and have been in operation from prehistoric times until today: (in no order of prominence) China, India, Persia, Greece