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Anonymous No.17943464 >>17943471 >>17943505 >>17943584 >>17943638 >>17945032
We are nothing but a bunch of stupid apes, who think they're smart, stuck on a rock which floates in an infinite space without any objective meaning or purpose.
Anonymous No.17943471 >>17943492
>>17943464 (OP)
Yeah but we're gifted in that we won evolution. You know until nihilist doomers get pissed off they can't be a space cowboy in his tiny allotted time on planet earth or something and then nukes us all to death
Anonymous No.17943492
>>17943471
Humanity is just smart enough to poison the planet and destroy civilization & nature,

Lets hope we don't
Anonymous No.17943505
>>17943464 (OP)
Anonymous No.17943584 >>17944150 >>17944983
>>17943464 (OP)
not objective in the If*ckinglovescience sense.
we can't know anything mind independently. knowledge requires a knower. everything exists for knowledge, that's why idealism is the correct meta-physics.
"meaning" is also kind of a bullshit term (like objective). sciencefags aren't asking about semantics and language, they want an existential meaning, like a teleology.
and the idea of a human purpose is actually interesting. but there's different levels to it. to me, sciencefags and platonists are all-or-nothing about it. either rabbi yeshua gave you a purpose, which isn't subjective somehow, or else total nihilism. I think Aristotle and Kant had a more correct view about purposes in nature.
a final cause is almost retrocausation in a sense because the goal determines the appropriate means to that end. and so there probably are different human goals at different levels of the organism. like the appetitive/vegetative organism has goals in it's metabolism, to persist and maintain itself, reproduce itself, etc. like how the purpose of the heart is to pump blood. like a functional view. and we have more rational goals. we only have to assume these are hypothetical imperatives, because this is where a lot of the controversy is. the debate between Hume and Kant and whether there are rationally inappropriate goals. sciencefags do not care at all about any of this though.
Anonymous No.17943638
>>17943464 (OP)
Yeah but the fun part is you get to do whatever you want until you get killed.
Anonymous No.17944150
>>17943584
You suffer from philbro-sophy.
You lost touch with common reality.
Anonymous No.17944958
CATDOG
CATDOG
Anonymous No.17944983
>>17943584
>knowledge requires a knower
Conversely, knower requires knowledge. Neither exists by themselves. And neither have coherent existence, aside from the relational nature. But even the relational nature is relational and such has no intrinsic independence. Same with mind/mind-made. Same with subject/object duality.

Idealism is a stop gap. Babby's first grasp of the problem of materialism. But idealism also suffers from the same fundamental problem.
Anonymous No.17945032
>>17943464 (OP)
No, OP, YOU are a stupid ape