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Anonymous No.17945508 >>17945525 >>17945576 >>17945597 >>17946666 >>17946820 >>17947074 >>17947167 >>17947316 >>17947319 >>17947587 >>17947620 >>17948199 >>17948662 >>17948825 >>17948831
Why were early 20th century Fascists so obsessed with Hinduism/Occultism
Anonymous No.17945525
>>17945508 (OP)
>so obsessed with Hinduism
They weren't, it was the common consensus that jeets were what would happen if Aryans were not steered from mixing with lower races, jeets and their faiths were seen as degenerate mutts, it's why alot of early Aryan fanatics wanted to look for the original chad proto aryans literally anywhere but India. You gotta be thought so lowly of when racists of the age would rather look at Tibet or Mongolia for said tard idolization
Anonymous No.17945569 >>17946228 >>17948110
Aryans created hinduism
Anonymous No.17945576
>>17945508 (OP)
It's complicated. Within the context of Nazi Germany, it ultimately has its origins in Central and Northern European runes and probably symbolized the sun. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries it became associated with New Religious Movements where it then made its way into Neo-Pagan and Nordicist movements where it fell into the hands of Mustache Man. Hitler originally described the symbol in Mein Kampf as a "Hooked Cross"
Anonymous No.17945597
>>17945508 (OP)
>Nazi were obsessed with islam, zorostarian ,Hinduism and paganism.
> Islam becoz it was manly becoz it was manly and they think of it as potential ally.
> Unknown to people nazi didn't care about hinduism they cared about aryan theory which was spread by british to explain stark contrast of skin color in indian. They took it further. Aryan and Dravidian theory come from British.
> Nazi like the cast system of india

Although hitler when went to india he said this land is not land of aryan or something lol
Anonymous No.17946132 >>17946618
Because Hinduism was the religion of the Arya peoples, and Europeans have always been fascinated by the "Exotic East."
Anonymous No.17946228 >>17946641 >>17946663 >>17948831
>>17945569
but Nazis were not Aryans
Anonymous No.17946618 >>17946646
>>17946132
No you dumb jeet, the Arya practiced a form of Scythian paganism not Jeetism
Anonymous No.17946641 >>17947131
>>17946228
Europeans today are the closest people to the ancient Aryans.
Anonymous No.17946646 >>17946652 >>17947061 >>17947144
>>17946618
Hinduism was literally created by indo-Aryan migrants into India. What's more, the caste system was created to separate the Aryans and the indigenous, but so much mixing has happened that the caste system has been perverted. Rosenberg talks about this, he has a good summary of the Nazi view.
Anonymous No.17946652 >>17946663 >>17946697
>>17946646
>>>/pol/
Anonymous No.17946663 >>17946668
>>17946652
>>17946228
Cope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitri_Devi
Anonymous No.17946666
>>17945508 (OP)
National Socialism isn’t Fascism
Anonymous No.17946668 >>17946733 >>17947125
>>17946663
>t-this ideologue confirms my historical bullshit!!!
You /pol/tards are genuinely fucking braindead.
Anonymous No.17946697 >>17946712
>>17946652
It's literally true though anon, biased Wikipedia agrees lol.
Anonymous No.17946712 >>17946724 >>17946733
>>17946697
No it's fucking not, you retard. I shouldn't have to explain why it's not true, because I'd expect a /his/fag to at least know very surface level Hindu history, but apparently this board was colonized by /pol/ and people just want to vomit bullshit to appease their own brains.
Anonymous No.17946724 >>17946785
>>17946712
>During the early Vedic period in northern India, when the Rigveda was composed (1500-1200 BC), there were only two varnas in the Vedic society: arya varna and dasa varna. The distinction originally arose from tribal divisions.[105] The Vedic people were Indo-European-speaking tribes who migrated over a period of several centuries into northern South Asia from the Bactria-Margiana,[106] and mixed with the "indigenous Dravidic-speaking populations," but regarded themselves as superior.
Anonymous No.17946733
>>17946712
>>17946668
Anonymous No.17946785 >>17946801
>>17946724
This is the kind of half-remembered Wiki paragraph people rip out of context to push the “caste = racial apartheid” narrative.
Arya vs. Dasa was not the caste system. In the Rigveda, “Arya” and “Dasa” are basically shorthand for “us” and “those hostile bastards.” Sometimes Dasa is a rival tribe, sometimes a demon. It’s tribal chauvinism, not a codified hereditary caste system. Pretending that line in the Rigveda is the full-blown varna/jati hierarchy is like saying Homer’s Greeks vs. Trojans are the European feudal system.
Varna emerges later. The four-fold varna scheme (Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra) isn’t in early Rigveda. It’s a late-Vedic/post-Vedic construction. And caste (jati) as we know it today hardened over centuries of political, economic, and religious developments. Massive difference between “fluid tribal divisions” and “2,000 hereditary castes locked in place.”
Migration is real, Nazi framing isn’t. Yes, Indo-Aryan migration is mainstream scholarship. No, that doesn’t mean Rosenberg’s “Aryans vs. indigenous” fairy tale is vindicated. The genetic and cultural evidence points to mixing and syncretism. The Nazis tried to spin that into “Aryan apartheid” because they needed myth fuel, not because it reflects actual South Asian history.
So if you’re just copy-pasting Rosenberg-tier takes like “Hinduism was created by Indo-Aryans, caste is race segregation,” you’re not doing history. So quit laundering /pol/ race-theory with a Wikipedia gloss.
Anonymous No.17946801 >>17946836
>>17946785
The only argument you're making here is that the caste system was became more and more rigid over time, which isn't actually a response to the point. It actually serves to validate the racialist point, as India as an independent civilization peaked in antiquity and has been subject to others since. If we are to draw a conclusion from this, it's that the caste system was a last ditch effort at maintaining hierarchy, and we would do best in the modern day to institute systematic racial purity. Look at Latin America and North America. One had the one-drop rule, the other didn't. Which is more successful?
Anonymous No.17946820
>>17945508 (OP)
Short answer: they weren't.
The only fascists obsessed with the occult were a subsect of the Nazis, since their particular views came from a racial mythology of superiority which was based off of ideas of Nordicism and Aryanism.
Some Nazis also wanted to move away from Christianity due to their Nietzschean thought that Christianity was a 'slave morality' which promulgated weakness. Hence the interest of a few Nazis to restore something more Pagan to the forefront.

But Nazis were just one sect of fascists. Most fascists would be very Christian or, at the least, not interested in weird occult shit or neo-pagan retardation.
Anonymous No.17946836 >>17946847 >>17947125
>>17946801
Oh my fucking God I am talking to an ape, fuck off back to /pol/.
Anonymous No.17946847 >>17946867
>>17946836
>you're a white nationalist therefore you're wrong
And this is why you will continue to lose.
Anonymous No.17946867 >>17946875 >>17947125
>>17946847
All you did was double down on your inaccurate ideologically charged bullshit, I don't fucking care if you want to jerk off to your heritage, don't spew what belongs on /pol/ on /his/, this board is about history not ideology.
Anonymous No.17946875
>>17946867
We've agreed on the facts though, the dispute is what to make of them.
Anonymous No.17947061 >>17947065 >>17947143
>>17946646
Hinduism was the vessel used to make their bastard mutt slaves into little obedient chattel. You are not Aryan, your customs are not Aryan and i dont care if some kraut thought it was
Anonymous No.17947065 >>17947143
>>17947061
I'm not a Hindu and I am Aryan. 100% European ancestry.
Anonymous No.17947074
>>17945508 (OP)
Because they were pagan larpers who hated Christianity.
Anonymous No.17947090
Nazis didn't take the swastika from Hinduism or care that much about Hinduism. It's because Schliemann saw it in the ruins of Troy and it was also common in Germanic and Italic material culture. That's why the Alldeutscher Verband movement adopted it as their symbol, decades before Nazis. It was viewed as the symbol of the supremacy of a supposed ancient Germanic race in Southern Europe and elsewhere before they allegedly mixed out of existence.
Anonymous No.17947125
>>17946668
>>17946836
>>17946867
chuck and sneed, globalhomos
Anonymous No.17947131 >>17947140
>>17946641
lmao
Anonymous No.17947140 >>17947149
>>17947131
It's literally true though
Anonymous No.17947143
>>17947061
>>17947065
Indians fall into the totem pole of whites.
Their relationships have always been symbiotic.
Anonymous No.17947144 >>17947151
>>17946646
>the caste system was created to separate the Aryans and the indigenous
pantsu on head retarded
the "caste system" was established originally to separate christians from non-christians and later modified to distinguish between sympathetic and non-sympathetic indian groups towards colonial overlords
you must not know any indian history, which is probably why you're struggling to describe their historical class systems in their own words
Anonymous No.17947149 >>17947153
>>17947140
yeah man the remnant rapebabies of farmers past are definitely heirs to your pureblood fanfic tier throne
Anonymous No.17947151 >>17947152
>>17947144
lmao
Anonymous No.17947152
>>17947151
cope
Anonymous No.17947153 >>17947190
>>17947149
Who is more like the original Indo-Aryans then?
Anonymous No.17947167 >>17947184
>>17945508 (OP)
the symbol is european in nature the first find there predates one in india by nearly 10k years
Anonymous No.17947172 >>17947292 >>17948651
Maybe Hitler thought that bad people had been reborn / reincarnated as Jews and that they needed to pay for previous mistakes made in their past lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation
Anonymous No.17947184 >>17947194
>>17947167
the germans didn't use the indigenous european words for the symbol though, they used sanskrit vocabulary to shape their views, and that vocabulary was lifted from indology texts from the late 19th century
it was germans being weebs for india
Anonymous No.17947190 >>17947209
>>17947153
Russians unironically
Anonymous No.17947194 >>17947200
>>17947184
Braindead argument, no mr jeet, the krauts were not weebs for you mutts
Anonymous No.17947200 >>17947207
>>17947194
yeah man the people writing about hitler being the second coming of vishnu and talking about germans being vedic gods were pvre evropeans that weren't thinking of indians at all
Anonymous No.17947207
>>17947200
You use the words of psychopaths that Hitler himself and 99% of the general population thought were retarded to prove your point? Might aswell use spic fuentes as a way to gage how the average trumpy feels lmao
Anonymous No.17947209 >>17947219
>>17947190
True but whites broadly are the most similar race.
Anonymous No.17947219 >>17947221
>>17947209
black israelite tier logic
Anonymous No.17947221 >>17947228
>>17947219
He’s not wrong, some Iberian is closer to what the original Steppe Aryans were like than the average jeet
Anonymous No.17947228 >>17947234
>>17947221
that is absolutely wrong
you are either a race or you aren't
mutts don't count
arab rapebabies in egypt doesn't make modern egypt a continuation of the people that built the pyramids. being french doesn't suddenly make you russian when it's convenient.
Anonymous No.17947234 >>17947236 >>17947237
>>17947228
>Who is more like the original Indo-Aryans then?
Forget your own question, jeet? You lot are beyond retarded
Anonymous No.17947236 >>17947241 >>17947242
>>17947234
he's a churka mutt and his grannys tits got cut off, so he hates whitey now.
Anonymous No.17947237 >>17947242
>>17947234
that's not my post dumb dumb stupid head
Anonymous No.17947241
>>17947236
>everyone who hates racemixed larpers is indian
genius post
Anonymous No.17947242 >>17947248
>>17947236
He’s seething too
>>17947237
Then dont act as retarded as said other jeet
Anonymous No.17947248 >>17947251 >>17947297
>>17947242
that post was made by someone claiming all europeans are the closest descendants of the original aryans
are you illiterate? it's not that difficult to follow the posts in this thread.
Anonymous No.17947251 >>17947255
>>17947248
That poster did not claim that specifically, he said broadly. Stop lacking any and all reading comprehension and mayhaps you’d learn to not jump to conclusions.
Anonymous No.17947255 >>17947259
>>17947251
you have the reading comprehension of a second grader and attempting to nitpick your way out of getting multiple things wrong over a series of posts will not change the fact that your stupidity is already on public display
Anonymous No.17947259 >>17947262
>>17947255
Seething, it’s painfully obvious you’re the jeet and are picking the easiest point to try and wrestle a “win” because no one thinks you’re Aryan.
Anonymous No.17947262 >>17947271
>>17947259
lmao concession accepted, retard
Anonymous No.17947271 >>17947277
>>17947262
Actually upon further reflection, your seething about either being pure or not reminds me of arguments used by Latrinos to divide and conquer. Are you from Latin America by any chance? You are degrading yourself further by associating with jeets btw
Anonymous No.17947277 >>17947288
>>17947271
these outbursts only make you look dumber
first you thought i was indian and now you think i'm latino all because i correctly pointed out that being the muttified rapebaby offspring of aryans doesn't make you aryan
keep crying faggot
Anonymous No.17947288 >>17947295
>>17947277
The anon said white, not Aryan. A non Aryan Finn is 100% closer to Indo Aryans, you never understood the question nor the answer and are having a hissy fit because of it
Anonymous No.17947292 >>17948651
>>17947172
Wow! Your dog could be Ishmael reborn.

>Upon death, the soul merely transmigrates into a newborn baby or into an animal to continue its immortality.
Anonymous No.17947295
>>17947288
>A non Aryan Finn is 100% closer to Indo Aryans
Anonymous No.17947297 >>17947299
>>17947248
>someone claiming all europeans are the closest descendants of the original aryans
It's literally true though. The Aryans came from the original Indo-Europeans. So did the modern Europeans. The Aryans fizzled out and no longer exist except in an extremely mixed form. India and Iran are prime examples
Anonymous No.17947299 >>17947302
>>17947297
>The Aryans fizzled out and no longer exist
literally my entire point this whole time
Anonymous No.17947302 >>17947310
>>17947299
And no one is arguing that, your point is just not relevant.
Anonymous No.17947310 >>17947437
>>17947302
i swear to god this entire board is just ESL turboniggers with unlimited data plans
Anonymous No.17947316
>>17945508 (OP)
Because they hated the west and desired to destroy it under the guise of protecting it. Same as now, frankly.
Anonymous No.17947319 >>17947356
>>17945508 (OP)
>hitler just stole le swastika from the buddhists
Shut the fuck up morons
Anonymous No.17947356
>>17947319
the resurgence of the swastika shape in europe was inspired by european indology
Anonymous No.17947437 >>17947439
>>17947310
Post nose
Anonymous No.17947439
>>17947437
nose
Anonymous No.17947493 >>17947576 >>17947616 >>17947679 >>17948084
I'll post it
Anonymous No.17947576 >>17947578 >>17947712
>>17947493
>meme image
Anonymous No.17947578
>>17947576
Not an argument
Anonymous No.17947587
>>17945508 (OP)
>fascism is the way
very detailed from the 1930s
Anonymous No.17947616
>>17947493
Based and factual
Anonymous No.17947620
>>17945508 (OP)
swastika was introduced to jeets by europeans
Anonymous No.17947679 >>17947681 >>17947712 >>17948367
>>17947493
/pol/ garbage
Anonymous No.17947681 >>17947689 >>17947692
>>17947679
debunk it then
Anonymous No.17947689 >>17947694
>>17947681
read a book nigger
Anonymous No.17947692 >>17947694 >>17947696 >>17948367 >>17948766
>>17947681
Read like a very surface level Hindu history book and come back to me, retard. I'm not going to bother with a braindead /pol/nigger
Anonymous No.17947694 >>17947698
>>17947689
>>17947692
Not an argument.
Anonymous No.17947696 >>17947701
>>17947692
>Hindu history book
Persian or bong written?
Anonymous No.17947698 >>17947702
>>17947694
nobody's here to spoonfeed you what can be picked up in any basic history book on india
if you're too stupid to know how even the dates in that pic are contradictory to it's own argument then you're too stupid for this thread
Anonymous No.17947701
>>17947696
muslim hands typed this seethe
Anonymous No.17947702 >>17947706
>>17947698
I mean it's a fucking meme of course it's oversimplifying and exaggerating, but the core idea is true. Modern Europeans are more like the ancient Aryans than modern Indians and Iranians are.
Anonymous No.17947706 >>17947710
>>17947702
>jokes on you i was only pretending to be retarded
kill yourself
Anonymous No.17947710 >>17947713
>>17947706
I notice you're not disputing my point.
Anonymous No.17947712 >>17947714
>>17947576
>>17947679
literally the only inaccuracy is the blonde hair
Anonymous No.17947713
>>17947710
you've already admitted to being disingenuous and you're rehashing a point which has already been discussed to conclusion in this thread.
your stupidity and illiteracy are not other people's responsibility.
Anonymous No.17947714
>>17947712
I shouldn't have to explain to you why that is wrong, there is a quality post in this thread debunking this shit, but obviously you /pol/tards don't read threads and just spew your retarded garbage here.
Anonymous No.17947716 >>17947718 >>17948835
Nobody is a real "Aryan" Krauts co-opted the term to just refer to Nordicism, it's bullshit. There is no real evidence that anyone is closer/further from the "original Aryans" because there is no actual standard for what an Aryan is outside of anthropological curiosity. The idea that Aryans are even a distinct race and not just used to refer to the people of Āryāvarta (Modern-Day Northern India/Kashmir and Iran) and that Europeans were closest to them was first put forth by French Writer and Diplomat Arthur Gobineau and has absolutely no factual or scientific basis, even within the context of race realist autism.
Anonymous No.17947718 >>17948835
>>17947716
rare non retarded /his/ user
Anonymous No.17948084 >>17948103 >>17948173
>>17947493
People shouldn’t post this, because there is some distinction between “Aryan” and Yamnaya. Also most western europeans are not 75% yamnaya. It’s maybe 50% WSH, 30% EEF, and the rest WHG. Don’t fight jeet misinfo with more misinfo
Anonymous No.17948103 >>17949038
>>17948084
>Don’t fight jeet misinfo with more misinfo
I know, but the little brown cartoon guys always crack me up lol
Anonymous No.17948110
>>17945569
no they didn't, hinduism is a mongrelisation of the vedic faith with local indian deities
Anonymous No.17948173
>>17948084
didnt aryans came from corded ware where they got EEF and WHG also? Corded Ware is the case not Samara Yamnaya sample
Anonymous No.17948199 >>17948201
>>17945508 (OP)
It was a nihilistic movement. Nihilists always turn to liberal, vague and multifaceted interpretations of the mystical world because they are afraid of God or any kind of absolute and clear value system. The superficial ferocity and resolve, passion if you will, of Nazism is just another expression of this lack and subsequent desire for a deeper meaning. Have you never wondered why Nazis always have a vast array of crazy mystical and mythical narratives that don't align with one another and seems based on personal whim?
Anonymous No.17948201 >>17948216
>>17948199
>absolute and clear value system
Which christian denominations openly support the practice of slavery these days
Anonymous No.17948216
>>17948201
Nothing in Jesus' teachings condoned slavery. Jesus was also not interested in the particularities of how sin and evil expresses itself, for example slavery, in any given time period. Just sin and evil itself, which is eternal, but surfaces in different ways.

At best, if you want to make the case that Christianity condones slavery, you could argue that abolitionists and liberty-seekers are potentially too passionate and focused on political and material status, which is rooted in sin. In other words, being liberated from traditional forms of slavery in favor of small salary which you use to perpetuate an evil system and economy with, won't really save you.
Anonymous No.17948367
>>17947692
>>17947679
STFU faggot
Anonymous No.17948651 >>17949751
>>17947172
>>17947292
I think that Hitler was so convinced that certain people needed to pay for the bad things that they had done that even he himself was willing to pay for them as well.
Anonymous No.17948662
>>17945508 (OP)
https://esotericawakening.com/esoteric-meaning-of-the-black-sun
Anonymous No.17948666 >>17949840
Anonymous No.17948766 >>17948939
>>17947692
>Hindu history book
like what?
Anonymous No.17948825
>>17945508 (OP)
Greekjeets didn't accept shItalians and Goeblins, so the new larp was needed.
Anonymous No.17948831 >>17948841 >>17948939
>>17946228
>>17945508 (OP)
Again?
Anonymous No.17948835 >>17948939
>>17947716
>>17947718
These people literally came from eastern europe.
Anonymous No.17948841 >>17948849 >>17949221
>>17948831
Again?
Anonymous No.17948849 >>17948860
>>17948841
I came to /his/ first time in weeks and yet again I see this schizophrenic.
Anonymous No.17948860 >>17949221
>>17948849
This (You)?
Anonymous No.17948939 >>17949004 >>17949844
>>17948831
>>17948835
Jeets are retarded, nothing new
>>17948766
I made him seethe with a similar response too, like legit they’ve never wrote down their own history and now seethe that we dont want to use their pop history tier modern publications as credible sources
Anonymous No.17948961
They weren't, conflating the hakenkruez with the indian swastika was part of a propaganda campaign to dechristianize the Germans in the allies minds because heathens were easier to kill than other Christians
Anonymous No.17949004
>>17948939
I'm not Indian but I guarantee you're a retarded /pol/ immigrant.
Anonymous No.17949038 >>17949164
>>17948103
Your mentally five just like the average jeet
Anonymous No.17949164
>>17949038
Says the guy that can't spell
Anonymous No.17949221
>>17948841
>>17948860
A jeet reeing about dysgenic looks in other populations is beyond hypocrisy
Anonymous No.17949751 >>17949785
>>17948651
I have a problem with the reincarnation theory. First of all it doesn’t make any sense. And if you do believe in reincarnation you also believe in a God and that God is the one that will guide that new person through its new life, whether it’s good or bad. You should not attack anyone because you suspect that they are someone that has been reincarnated or even help them because of your suspicion. Let things take care of themselves (God).
The world is run by crazy people.
Anonymous No.17949785
>>17949751
>attacking someone because you think they have been reincarnated
See you in hell.
Anonymous No.17949840
>>17948666
>brahmins are the racial high caste of vedic society
>brahmins describe the buddha and his people as a foreigners who do not respect their culture and traditions
>this logic somehow results in both groups being counted as white
what the fuck are you retards on
Anonymous No.17949844
>>17948939
bootyblast levels off the charts
there needs to be a literacy test before allowing people to post on this board