Thread 17945579

i don't believe any of that shit ppl say about europe ever being important because modern day europe is irrelevant. why did the place turn into a dump if they're so smart
>inb4 DA JOOOOOOZ did it
according to the same ppl who say europe used to be important and invented everything, europe also used to have 20x more jews than it has now, so if DA JOOOOZ are so terrible why was europe better off back when it had so much more jews?

none of this story about europe having been a superpower on par with america makes any sense at all, its got to be fake. europe was always a retarded backwater

they stole shit from everyone then rewrote history

people understand they're snakes now

>>17945579 (OP)
>europe was always a retarded backwater
Europeans lack self-awareness. From 1806-1945 the entire continent was literally the white version of the current Middle East with constant violence, famine, and infighting, and that's the era they glorify the most for some reason.

>>17945579 (OP)
they committed mass suicide twice in a row and lost their colonies in the process, so power shifted to bigger countries
>>17945586
More like 1789-1815 and then 1914-1945
there was a long period of relative peace after the congress of Vienna

>>17945579 (OP)
European climbed rank quickly and become global superpower but sadly they weren't got much of the history except rome ,greek and Christianity.
> European needed past which they don't have like china, middle east, india, east asia , Japan got glorious past but they didn't. Even Africa had somewhat of history
I wonder what would have happened if their was no christianity this guy wouldn't even become global power lol

>>17945579 (OP)
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>>17945591
Are you fucking retarded or just brown?

You literally live in European created world and civilization. You use European invented technology and communicate in one of European languages.

>>17945614
>You use European invented technology
The internet was invented by Americans
>But they were Europeans!
Meaningless, Pan-Europeanism is a cringe concept, Europe has never even once in its entire history been truly unified, the closest they ever got was Rome and the EU (lol!)

>>17945618
Where did Americans come from, you low IQ goyslop fed shit for brains?

>>17945622
>Where did Americans come from,
America
>B-but Europe
See
>>17945618
>Pan-Europeanism is a cringe concept, Europe has never even once in its entire history been truly unified, the closest they ever got was Rome and the EU (lol!)
You treat that continent like a participation trophy. The computer scientists working at DARPA didn't give a single shit about your retarded ethno-nationalist values when developing the original TCP/IP protocols you abuse to spread your slop.

>>17945614
It's so obvious

>>17945579 (OP)
>Europeans calculating how they lost control
Read Deuteronomy 28 punishments and rewards for disobedience and obedience, amen

World wars and anti-colonialism destroyed Europe. Jews had nothing to do with it. Antisemitism is such a dated and superstitious prejudice, we should have left it behind in the Middle Ages.

>>17946126
Anti colonialism was inevitable and was expedited by the wars

>>17945614
Brahmins are white people what are you talking about?

>>17945579 (OP)
I found this somewhere

>>17945579 (OP)
Europe has 4 out of the 10 largest economies in the world.
Europe has the highest average GPD per capita than any other country, even poor countries like Portugal have a GPD per capita comparable to Japan meaning the poorest Portuguese is just as wealthy as the poorest Japanese and 2x wealthier than the poorest Chinese.
Europe would have the 2nd best military in the world if it was unified meaning that it could theoretically defeat US in a war (Europeans constantly defeat Americans in wargames and NATO exercises).

>>17947790
>Europe has the highest average GPD per capita than any other country
Europe isn't a country

>>17947790
If Europe doesn't kick out the migrants and get their birthrates up there's no hope.

>>17947803
Retard. Pick a random European country and they will have the same or better GDP per capita than any other country except US, Canada, Australia and only slightly lower than Japan. That's what average European GDP per capita means.
Also EU behaves much like a very decentralised country. We can pack our bags in our country and move to another European country without restrictions, no need for work visas or green cards.

>>17947830
what country are you from? or are you a euromutt?

>>17947830
Supranational unions aren't countries. If the EU were then you'd also have to consider shit like ASEAN, MERCOSUR, GCC, and ECOWAS one country, at which point your military and economy arguments respectively both fall apart.

>>17947842
Europe cannot survive without becoming one nation. It can be a nation in the same way that the early United States were, with distinct regional identities and histories, but today is an international age. There are only 600-700 million Europeans, there's no way it can survive without operating as a fully unified bloc.

>>17947847
>There are only 600-700 million Europeans
Yeah, just a measly 600-700 million, that's all, just a measly 9% of the worlds population

>>17947852
Do you have the attention span of a goldfish? If you cannot keep track of three sentences something may be deficient in your brain.

>>17947847
Anon, Europe is in no way comparable to the United States at any point in its history. Every state in the US actually shared a similar culture and everyone spoke the same language. Europe has multiple cultures and languages. An economic union is the only thing that makes sense for Europe. A Federal Europe makes absolutely no sense, especially since it would no doubt be headed by Germans, and nobody wants that.

>>17947855
Adapt or die.

>>17947847
Far right parties are already winning like mad all across Europe because of the EU's bullshit, you really think Europeans want a federalized continental government?

>>17947868
They're winning because of immigration. Don't pretend it's anything else.
>you really think Europeans want a federalized continental government?
It doesn't matter if they want it or not. They need it.

>>17947870
And who caused that immigration dumbass?

>>17947884
America obviously. Since Britain left the EU their immigration situation has only worsened. Retard populists using the immigration crisis to destroy the EU pose a massive threat to Europe long-term.

>>17945579 (OP)

>why was europe better off back when it had so much more jews

because jews had the most experience with a superpower called reading + writing through this super power were able to learn of and apply their understanding of the immaterial(inner logic/geometry of the universe) to physical reality

>none of this story about europe having been a superpower

the word "superpower" is anachronistically tied to the 20th century and applies to only the United States and the Soviet Union.

however, europoors started we wuzing and chest thumping after the Soviet Union fell.

>europe was always a retarded backwater

thb the whole world was a backward shithole before america and i wish people would just be happy with what we have, the last 200 years resulted in more positive change to mankind's material and immaterial condition than ever seen prior

but it's truly backward and barbaric how many people encapsulate all the good that originated in America as either their own or as some inevitable conclusion with or without America

>>17947790

>Europe has 4 out of the 10 largest economies in the world.

America has Apple(a higher market capitalization than the entire French stock market) and Microsoft(a higher market capitalization than the entire German stock market)

>Europe has the highest average GPD per capita than any other country, even poor countries like Portugal have a GPD per capita comparable to Japan meaning the poorest Portuguese is just as wealthy as the poorest Japanese and 2x wealthier than the poorest Chinese.

Now, adjust for purchasing power.

comparing not a country to a country means you're coping

>>17947827

If the USSR never dissolved the coldwar would still be going on, therefore birthrates would never have declined the way they have.

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>>17947886
The biggest threat to Europe has always been Europeans themselves and their tendency to scapegoat all their problems

>>17945579 (OP)
Celts aren't Europeans?

>>17945579 (OP)
We became democracies with universal suffrage and working class people voted for socialists and gave up the colonies, it is not complicated.

Europe nearly conquered the entire world then voluntarily gave it up, there was no great anti-colonial war, except maybe those triggered by the soviets, who were white, the same with slavery, white men died to free your ass and now white people vote for more african, muslims, jeet and hispangroid immigration. It goes to show how evil leftists really are that they retcon history to rub out the contributions of white leftists to your joke of a cause.

>>17947923
maybe it had something to do with 2 world wars in a row you fucking retard

>>17945579 (OP)
>modern day europe is irrelevant
Then stop moving there, shitskin.

>>17947830

>Also EU behaves much like a very decentralised country.

controlled by krauts

>We can pack our bags in our country and move to another European country without restrictions, no need for work visas or green cards.

you europoors need to stop trying to copy america, it's cringe and self-destructive

>>17947847

>Europe cannot survive without becoming one nation
>It can be a nation in the same way that the early United States were

the conditions and circumstances that created America are unlike any ever seen in all the tribes, kingdoms, empires, caliphates, dynasties of humanity.

the USSR is comparable in some ways, but that's the nearest neighbor to what I'm getting at when talking about the United States of America.

>with distinct regional identities and histories

we still do, arguably even stronger now than before

>but today is an international age

this is a wonderful thing btw, the problem is when there's enough bandwidth to have things like youtube, tiktok, etc...

some people just can't be happy with what they have and are easily demoralized by either the mean words of others or comparing themselves to those in higher material conditions(more rich, more beautiful, taller, lighter/darker, etc...)

>>17947980
Britain didn't lose the colonies during ww2, neither did ww2 render it too militarily weak to hold onto them later. Literal dunning kruger effect at play here. You probably heard this meme on r*ddit or some hack YT channel and think "oOoOoh! there was a big WAR! that must've done it!".

Mahatma Gandhi literally visited Britain as early as 1931 to meet the Labour Party who supported India's independence, it was planned before Hitler had even risen to power. If you understood the actual economic and military impact of the war and the sequence of events you would see how it in fact delayed independence due to the rising threat of Hitler and India's importance to national security. The deal was they would hold onto India until the existential threat was over. Indeed just 2 years after Clement Attlee was elected India would gain independence. Had Churchill been elected it would have taken longer and there wouldn't be much India could do about it since Britain would have the atom bomb by 1952.

>>17945582
>This is what brownoids believe

>>17947855
>>17947855

>headed by Germans
>Germans, in charge

What you europoors don't understand is that

>In a just world there would still be two germanys, but alas we live in a world where the American Union exists and the conclusion of its second revolution only grew stronger as time passed a conclusion eventually imposed upon the world.

>A revolutionary war where its great enemy sought to impose lawless evil upon all that was good and beautiful, even after rallying armies to preserve, expand, and make eternal the reign of original sin over humanity's future in both the new and old world.

>A war waged not in the name of conquest or claim to a throne, a holy war where the axioms of mankind clashed: good against evil, freedom against slavery.

>A titanic struggle where the American Union stood above its defeated enemy, the Great Patrio- American civil war was over. In a land where the distinction between freedom and power was understood, mercy grabs the hand of righteousness.

>The people of the great enemy were allowed to return, vote, and rebuild. Individually many retaliated, many more however upheld the now restored institutions of the American Union.

>Just as the American Union was able to forgive its brother i.e. the American Confederacy i.e johnny reb and his unspeakable treachery, it too was able to forgive Germany.

Shitposting aside, the United States is in no way comparable to any civilization in any point in history for too many reasons to list.

Stop trying to duplicate the American Union's succes, it's pure cringe and up with socialism i.e. becoming a backward shithole hellbent on envy and revenge.

Anyone saying contrary to this is also unable to rotate shapes in their heads after hearing "America" being mentioned.

>>17948016

>Mahatma Gandhi literally visited Britain as early as 1931 to meet the Labour Party who supported India's independence, it was planned before Hitler had even risen to power.

>by sheer coincidence the independence movement of india was approved post 1945

i understand your education is free for a reason, but what actually happened was

>be America
>prop up europoors and commies against krauts
>single handedly defeat japs
>use nukes
>start rebuilding europe via marshall plan and establish a military presence to deter the soviet union
>ESLs are told politely "we're in charge now"

>>17947852
Europe has 700 million people. Half of them are above the age of 45. Lol.
Africa has 700 million people under the age of 20

>>17945590
More like 300-1945 AD. The Napoleonic Wars were far less widespread conflicts than those that took place under Louis XIV, not to mention the War of Polish Succession, War of Austrian Succession, and Seven Years War before the Napoleonic Wars and before that the 30 Years War, 80 Years War, and French Wars of Religion, and before that the Italian Wars and War of Burgundian Succession and Mad War, and before that the Hundred Years War, so on and so forth.

>>17948971
Counterpoint: Africans are retarded and subsist off Western aid.

>>17948971
80% of africa is not food secure and ethiopia has a kill switch on egypt.

>>17945579 (OP)
>is on history board
>is unaware of 2(DEUX) world wars, followed by communism
go back to the trumpanzee pen asap

>>17947842
>common currency
>common immigration
>common parliament and laws
come on hivan

>>17949166
Actually trump canceled all western aid and europe followed suit

>>17949320
There's still charity, which needs to go as well. I think we ought to starve them all and cleanse the continent if you ask me.

>>17949166
Counterpoint: European "non-retarded" philosophy has led them to demographic collapse

Btw African emigration has not yet even began coz it's still a young continent. Kek

>>17949169
This is largely due to dollar dominance. African countries end up growing cash crops to access dollars. Based China is undoing this

>>17949349
It's not the philosophy, it's modernity. That's why China and Iran are also experiencing demographic collapse. Africans are like 200 years behind lol.

>>17949322
and I'm the president of the moon