Thread 17945864

>raised believing this kings were zoroastrians (Christianity = Zoroastrianism 2.0)
>check how ancient hebrews saw the world, upside down
>Wise Kings came from Tarsis (Tartessos, survivors from Atlantis)
>the moment I realised Christianity is the last remnant of the ancient Tartessian (Atlantean) religion
>Jesus Christ son of God-King Atlas

Medieval Arabs used too upside down maps.

In picrel you can see Al-Andalus (Peninsula of Atlas) upside down.

>>17945864 (OP)
Most countries used to make world map using their their countries as centre.
Idea of world map we hold now is due to british.
We follow it still today

>>17945945
Since the rise of China this last decades and how its native name is 'Zhongguó' ("Central State"), I wonder how the new maps will look.

>>17945961
The same, but with the old world on the right and the new world on the left

>>17945864 (OP)
It says they came from the east, not from the right. Left on this map >>17945869 is still east.

>>17945864 (OP)
>>Jesus Christ son of God-King Atlas
He was the heir of Juba II, yes.
But, the wise men were from Comana - where his stepmother Glaphyra was from and which were allies of Caesar. Caesar was the stepfather of Juba II before Augustus took over custody and married Juba II yo Cleopatras daughter.

>>17947263
>stepfather
adoptive father**

>>17945864 (OP)
>Wise Kings came from Tarsis (Tartessos, survivors from Atlantis)
I understand that there's one in Turkey and two in Spain, all of which are associated with the Hittites in some way.

>>17947305
tldr;
teresh = Thrace, and it created colonies named after itself.
The PIE languages simply renamed the older cityname

Wrong because no matter how the jews see their maps, the three kings are from "sunrise"

>>17946298
That is a muslim map, not an ancient hebrew map. In ancient hebrew maps Tarsis (Tartessos) was in the east.

Even the Pope Benedict XVI himself in his book 'Childhood of Jesus' says the Three Wise Kings came from Tarsis / Tartessos in current Huelva (Andalucía, Spain).

>>17947263
Atlas was a pre-Olympian God, a Titan, and first king of Atlantis. What relationship he had with Juba II, a mortal that existed millennia after him?

>>17948368
Atlas happens to also be a king of the... atlas mountains... you know where the berbers live? Juba II was a Massylii berber.
if anyone's got the family and clout to claim heritage from Atlas it is none other than him. He also was the one to name the Canary Islands, plus is the source person for the maps that portray the Nile as also flowing south of the Atlas mountains.
Juba II clowned on the greeks and jews, which is why the "mainstream" don't mention his name despite being at the very center of everything having to do with 50bc-25ad roman history.

Matthew never says there were 3 magi. There's just three named gifts for jesus. There could have been 2 with 3 gifts for 10 with 3 gifts.
The whole point of the story is how gentiles find the messiah via the jewish scriptures, the Magi have to ask herods scribes to learn the prophecy he'll be from bethlehem. It's foreshadowing to the gospel and the gentile church

>>17945864 (OP)
based schizo thread

>>17948422
Atlas was not king in those mountains, he was jailed there by Zeus.

>>17948757
and Dundee was jailed in australia by Albion... at some point you have to separate literary tales and the info within it from reality in the way it belongs.

>>17948800
There is no recorded history nor theogony about Atlas being king in North Africa.

And, AGAIN, Atlas being Juba is stupid
>Atlas' rule was recorded in times before the Bronze Age
>Juba II existed MILLENNIA AFTER him

>>17948874
>Atlas being Juba
not what I said, and ibero-maurusians are literally the main genetic component in berbers to this day, so your point is retarded. Just ask if you need help understanding the various ways "son of X" are used.
We're all here to help, inbetween the bots, shills and retards.

>>17945864 (OP)
Traditionally, the wise kings are depicted as one being Indian, one as a Persian and the lady is a Greek. In paintings and the like they are shown that way.

>>17945864 (OP)
Melchior (Persia), Caspar (India), and Balthazar (Greece)

>>17945864 (OP)
>Christianity = Zoroastrianism 2.0
Eh, probably influenced by Mithraism. If anything its at least a try at self-correction from the Atenism-influenced Judaism?

>ancient hebrews saw the world, upside down
>>17945869
>Medieval Arabs used too upside down maps.
Abrahamists seeing the world with the south pole as their north is just so poetic.

>>17945864 (OP)
>check how ancient hebrews saw the world
the gospels were written by Greeks

>>17950803
Correction, the Gospels were written by Greek-speaking jews.

>>17950803
Correction, the Gospels were written by jews that knew Greek.

>>17945864 (OP)
k

>>17951116
I doubt it. the gospels make Jesus into a Hellenic hero/demigod, but give him the powers of a god. where Odysseus cowers in fear after his companions unwittingly unleash the winds from the bag given to them by Aeolus, Jesus calms the storm (Mark 4:35-41, Luke 8:22-25).
now, many Jews were thoroughly Hellenized by that time. but either way, the authors weren't mere Jews who had learned Greek, but were properly educated in Greek writing and familiar with Greek mythology

>>17951547
>but were properly educated in Greek writing and familiar with Greek mythology
Yesn't, by that time Judea had 2 centuries of hellenization, even the peasant jews had some degree of knowledge about Hellenism.
And despite the zealots and other sects, many jews, both nobles and plebs, had no problem seeing Zeus as Yahweh, so Yahweh having a son (Jesus Christ) was normal for many jews and for greeks he would be another son of Zeus.

Zeus was called by jews as Baal Hashem and El Hashamayim ('Lord of Heavens').

>>17945864 (OP)
i don't think so

>>17945864 (OP)
>Atlantis
The place made up entirely by Plato?

>>17953562
Atlantis was real, Plato just took inspiration from it.

>>17945864 (OP)
three kings were from Wei, Shu, and Wu

>>17955464
Kek.
I wonder how the world would be today if the West adopted Chinese religions instead semitic ones.

>>17953562
>>17954054
The nonexistence of civilizations of 12 thousand years ago is to sciencebros what 6000year creationism is to biblethumpers.
If you question it, they shortcircuit.
tldr;
90% of all people are retards without an original thought of their own.

>>17956274
>there were uberadvanced civilizations 12000 years ago
>no I have no evidence for my claim stop asking! YOU are seething not me! Reeeee

>>17956314
>uberadvanced
this is parallell to how the biblethumpers wield the dinosaur argument as if they're satans demons.
If you suggest there existed organized civilization, the sciencebros immediately spam the tropes and dogwhistles that comprise their entire persona.

>>17956332
Do you have evidence of this, so called, civilization? Mind you no one is saying it's impossible.

>>17956336
>Mind you no one is saying it's impossible.
You're asking for evidence of organized social hierarchy, while following it up with a sentence that contradicts /baits the trope of super advancement.
disingenuous retard.

>>17956350
So the answer is no, as expected; this is why these ideas aren't taken seriouly