Thread 17947080

Let's be real, they absolutely deserved it.

I don't know why it's controversial to even say that.
They all had it coming.

reddit take

>>17947080 (OP)
Say that to me irl and see what happens faggot

>>17947089
address

They had to shoot him repeatedly because this little boy was too hard to kill
The universe didn't want this

>>17947094
The Russian Orthodox Church was batshit for making them Saints in the first place

>>17947080 (OP)
Not the kids

>>17947080 (OP)
>>17947082
Nicky probably did, but the kids?

>>17947123
>>17947127
If the kids were kept alive the Tsar's allies would try to use them as political leverage in the form of eventually returning their family to power. They couldn't realistically be spared.

>>17947115
I could have saved him...

>>17947080 (OP)
Nicholas kinda fucked around and found out. But I don’t think even he deserved it, let alone his family.

>>17947080 (OP)
It is terrible the children died. However, the moralistic puritans who rant and rave about the Tsar's children dying never bring up the fact the Tsar directed WW1 and sent millions to their deaths or the desperate conditions that led the Bolsheviks making this decision. he Russian Civil war was essentially the apocalypse for Russia. Its not surprising the Bolsheviks made the calculation that by just killing these people they could end the war and save millions. And the sad thing is, they were right.

>>17947150
kek why do they always look like this

>>17947115
just like Rasputin? Who is spreading these rumors?

>>17947129
Nobody supported restoing the monarchy.

>>17947080 (OP)
I could have saved him.

>>17947127
i'm not answering your question but nicky was a big boy and he knew better than to put his family at risk like that for all of his little evils. like every other monarch leech descendant, they'd grow up and work as hard as they can to drag the whole country right back to being an indian teer shithole where the capital class LEECH while everyone else starves. the commies did their homework and saw the fate Napoleon suffered.
>>17947532
>White movement never existed

>>17947115
No, not why. He was wearing a hidden vest made out of fine jewelry which was what made them have to shoot him so many times.

>>17947494
Alekxei was the last one to die; this guy killed him, these are not "rumors", it's a simple fact confirmed by the people who were there

>>17947080 (OP)
I can picture what kind of disgusting, fat commie redditor would say something like this

>>Grew up with 10 brothers poor as hell and hungry
>yeah that can't be why he wanted to kill the people making him poor. hmm nope
>>Oh he was raised jewish
>OH!! SEE!! SEE LOOK!! LOOK SEE!! THAT'S THE PROBLEM!! LOOK GUYS!! LOOK
This is why China is winning.

>>17947565

why were jews fucking with goyim so hard?

>>17947571
>>17947572
malding

>>17947575
every fucking time

>>17947554
Ah yes. Monarchs have been so successful at returning to power after their abdications in the 20th century. Therefore we just had to kill those kids.

>>17947470
The civil war raged on for another four years after the Romanovs murder and the (((Bolsheviks))) killed millions themselves, far more than all Czars combined, the fuck are you on tranny.

>>17947583
you said that, not me. and there's no "we" here.
>Monarchs have been so successful at returning to power after their abdications in the 20th century.
to this day, there is a spanish party hellbent in reinstating their monarchy.
every other euromutt dynasty had to be negotiated into accepting ceremonial status. as if they are above human beings that deserve special protection.
you're playing dumb if you don't see how this can get annoying. especially when you're as poor as the average russian was under ol nicky boy. more than likely, you just never suffered a day in your entire life to understand.

>>17947595
>to this day, there is a spanish party hellbent in reinstating their monarchy.
Spain is a monarchy lmao fucking dumbass

>>17947593
The Boslheviks didn't kill anyone. They saved millions. Had the tsar or th white russians been left alive, they would have returned Russia to the stone age, and then it would have been invaded by Germany. The Bolsheviks brought Russia to the space age. Some stupid prissy royal runts were murdered, boo hoo. Too bad, the universe moves on.

>>17947614
Is this what your sisters on discord taught you?

>>17947598
and now it's a huge stinky SMELLY nasty dump that makes nothing. their own colonial subjects eclipsed them. Mexicans are literally manufacturing cars. SUPER smelly. gross!

>>17947615
The choice is let Corny-lov take over and turn Russia into a wasteland but at least the royal cunts get to have tiaras, or kill 6 people and end WW1 and advance the starving everyman trading rats for vodka into men with jobs watching ta guy go to space on TV.

I'd pick the TV guy.

>>17947621
Zamn! I'll be sure to call them up if I need a bumper or a golf cart that's not worth it's price. Cool!

>>17947624
The Bolsheviks left WW1 by agreeing to the Brest-Litovsk agreement half a year before the Romanovs murder.

>>17947628
Call them up and ask them for some medication for your mental disorder.

>>17947631
I don't really think penicillin treats mental illnesses.

>>17947633
You are right, what you have cant be cured.

>>17947635
I accept your concession.

>>17947638
And everybody clapped.

>>17947080 (OP)
>>17947082
Communists are not even humans, vile creatures.

>>17947813
You are ESL.
Are you russian?

>>17947080 (OP)
Fuck commies. the dumbest people on the planet.
Falling falling for a pajeet scam every time you answer the phone.

For me, it's Olga

>>17947571
the leaders of communist parties, russia and elsewhere, nearly all princeling upper class parasites who'd mooch and live like a reddit mod, sometimes they get a bandit opportunist who takes over. the peasants did what they do, the orders of aristocrats, in this case urbanised boyar sons mad they cant abuse commoners like their rural counterparts.
It is why communism must be opposed at all costs.

>>17947129
The Ottomans and Hasburgs were al letto fine and nobody tried to put them in power. Its all commies cope to justify killing childrens

>>17947470
>Its not surprising the Bolsheviks made the calculation that by just killing these people they could end the war and save million
Yea the millions they later killed after the Kulakis genocide, the famine and the Five Years Plans. Now mercifull of them

>>17947080 (OP)
Child killer award

>>17947841
>look guys, this criminological snowy shithole had a parasite social class. that means that it's cool when the US has the same exact thing
as for your last point. you are literally alone when you say that. everyone is tired. go die for taiwan yourself.

>>17947631
>Call them up and ask them for some medication for your mental disorder.

>>17947129
You speak with the evil tongue.

>>17947470
Two wrongs do not make a right.

>>17947115
>>17947536
How do you think he would've turned out, growing up with 4 hot older sisters?

>>17948026
I would have fixed him.

>>17947129
This wasn’t a modern war. Sure it happened in the modern/industrial era, but this was one of the last gasps of an earlier era. When you invest divine right into a bloodline you make that bloodline into a strategic asset (a source for legitimacy, a rallying cry, etc) and you make it a target for the same reason. Exterminating the Romanov bloodline was the same tactic we’ve seen for thousands of years when someone wanted to replace a dynasty completely. Was it ugly? Sure. In fact I’d say it was a vile, barbaric thing to do. Just the whole premise of ‘god wants these people to be your tyrants and their goons will kill you to enforce that will’ is just as barbaric. So. How better to end a cycle than end the earthly manifestation of the concept of the divine right to rule?

>>17947129
>think of the optics!
Of killing children? Fucking lunatic, like all commies

>>17947470
>sins of the father
You're a slaver if any 1 of your ancestors iever was.

>>17948073
It’s been normal throughout human history that entire dynastic lines were eradicated when defeated. It’s a primitive, barbaric practice, and that’s what you expect as a mainstay of a primitive, barbaric system. I’m not a commie, I don’t think communism works, but to pretend like the bloodline wasn’t a white army strategic asset ignores most of the history of monarchal systems going back millennia.

>>17948083
>i-it was normal!
So was soldiers raping everyone in eyesight. Normal does not make moral and you lost your high horse the moment the revolution began. Cope and sneed.

>>17948083
Nonsense.

>>17947080 (OP)
Fuck commie low borns. I am not even russian but they are delusional people.

>No you don't heckin understand we had to murder those children, we just had to. We also had to murder all the kulaks and proceed with Stalin's purges. If we didn't then we would be in the stone age since tsarist Russia wouldn't have advanced at all. If the whites won we would travel by horse drawn carriages in 2025. There is physically no way that a monarchist Russia would ever advance its technology and infrastructure.

People unironically believe this.

Why do /his/tards pretend to care about the Tsar and his family? Is it all performative to show just how humane and reasonable you are compared to the bolsheviks? You faggots would have done the same if you were starving russian peasants inspired by revolutionary fervor.

>>17948254
If anyone was starving in civil war Russia it certainly wasn't the cheka guards charged with guarding then executing the Romanovs

>>17948138
It's more that it's more than likely Russia would have become a genocidal fascist state like Nazi Germany. The Russian Revolution was basically a race between Fascistic white forces, black hundreds and Bolsheviks.
Look at what Whites did when they fled to China, they just became petty fascist warlords, so reality is Russia wouldn't even exist today if the Whites had won out.

>>17947082
Not the damn kids

>>17948275
Fascism didn't exist as a political movement, or even a theory of political governance during WWI or during the Russian civil war. Don't use snarl words when calling them what they were is much more appropriate. That would be people who claim to want to restore an absolute monarchy, but are authoritarian warlords that would have probably placed a puppet king, should they win.

>>17947150
Horrible physiognomy

Modern Communists, everyone

>>17948281
and my kid starved to death in Petersburg
fire away!

>>17948088
Who said anything about morality? The killings were justified. There’s no morality involved. Just strategy. From a strategic point of view their deaths were required. Is there a specific reason you’re saying I’m coping and seething though? Have you looked at Russian history? It’s like if a literal dumpster fire could somehow contract and spread HIV. Your choice is between a basket case who thinks a sky fairy gives him the right to starve you to death and a basket case who thinks a dude named Karl worked out a pretty OK plan to starve you to death.
>>17948099
In what sense? In a divine right based system a bloodline is a strategic asset. How is that wrong?

>>17947614

>they would have returned Russia to the stone age

the fact russia was already industrializing before the communist uprising is why you are wrong

>The Bolsheviks brought Russia to the space age

fun fact, American lend lease is what ultimately not only saved the Soviet Union from germans, but actually industrialized the Soviet Union enmasse i.e. 30,000+ lathes allowed the production of more and more industry specific tooling and and 100,000 train cars allowing transportation of... everything else

but ofc like every other cargo cult they thanked the magic of leninist socialism instead of America because that would imply capitalism good

>>17947080 (OP)
>I know that millions of children went without food due to my actions, but how can you heckin be mad at a kid for that!! How could you be upset that the money needed to buy your family bread for the night wound up being spent on the prince's jewelry and his clothing? That's SOOOOO reddit of you!! You're not human! You're vile You're e-*BLAM. BLAM* *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
I can only imagine how cathartic it felt to let all those bullets ring.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

>>17947813

Who are the biggest proponents of communism?

>>17947129
> If the kids were kept alive the Tsar's allies would try to use them as political leverage in the form of eventually returning their family to power. They couldn't realistically be spared
IIRC the Bolsheviks were initially willing to let them go into exile, but no nation wanted them. The Great War was ostensibly about saving democracy and taking in an autocratic Tsar and his family was, in modern vernacular, bad optics,

>>17948816
but three rights make a left

There's a reason why every conservative in Finland welcomed their execution and the new Bolshevik regime. This family represents nothing but oppression.

>>17949027
Finland had total autonomy from Russia under the Tsar.
Goes to show thar there is no point in treating minorities well, they will resent you anyway.

>>17948026
he wouldn't, considering that he was very sick

>>17948254
>Why do /his/tards pretend to care about the Tsar and his family
Show me one commie with 4 cutie daughters (and one boy) and i will become a communist.

>>17947835
Bottom right

>>17947554
The White Movement was to restore the Kerensky Government you fucking retard. You know the thing that took power AFTER the Tsar abdicated and had NO power?

ITT: People who ought to be told to sit for a portrait, then shot in the head, dismembered with axes, and burnt by the mass-murdering motherfuckers they are making excuses for.

>>17947470
an empire, GOING TO WAR!?

I remember a story that Lenin thought mobilization would rally the workers into revolution, but no most of the peasentry were willing to fight for their empire, the only mistake Nicholas made was to have an incompetent general

>>17949787
It amazing no one knows this, even americans who are the most propagandized towards anti-communism think the civil war was about the tsar
If the Russian civil war was portrayed as Lenin throwing a fit that he lost an election and destroying a new fledgling democracy then I bet more people would recognize him as the evil man he was

>>17947080 (OP)
Stupid dead piggies.

>>17947080 (OP)
>>17947082
>>17947129
>>17947470
>The whole world is rotten. Greed, hatred and cruelty are in the saddle. We intend to organize a new empire; a new civilization. It will be called the Middle Asiatic Buddhist Empire, carved out of Mongolia, Manchuria and Eastern Siberia. Communication has already been established for that purpose with Djan-Zo-Lin, the war lord of Manchuria, and with Hutukhta, the Living Buddha of Mongolia. Here in these historic plains we will organize an army as powerful as that of Genghis Khan. Then we will move, as that great man did, and smash the whole of Europe. The world must die so that a new and better world may come forth, reincarnated on a higher plane.

>>17947565
He regretted it btw

>>17947082
>>17947080 (OP)
Be specific as to why you think that?

>>17950302
>>17949898
They had monarchist factions and supporters.
Fascists find allies in a wide spectrum of reactionaries. Just because they didn't stand for monarchism doesn't mean they didn't benefit monarchists. The Romanovs would be benefactors of such a government all the same. You're being disingenuous.
>>17950302
It's been stated numerous times. People died under this guy's rule.
When you take the mantle, you accept that a lot of things might happen. It's not explicitly stated, but harsh repercussions for your conduct are one of those things.
If I were in the shoes of the executioners, I'd personally have done a lot worse than mere dispatching.

>>17950470
>People died under this guy's rule.
People die under any rule, retard. But comparing to commie rule Empire was heaven on Earth.

>>17948833
>Who are the biggest proponents of communism?
Jews

>>17947129
The Chinese child emperor was spared

>>17948331
Killing them literally proves that divine right exists. If they were treated like normal citizens it shatters divine right and they would lose the right to rule dullard.

>>17950470
>They had monarchist factions and supporters.
Who were minorities in the white movement.
>I'd personally have done a lot worse than mere dispatching.
So you admit it is all emotional revenge and not justice.

>>17950470
Nicky would have only weighed the monarchist movement down due to his extreme impopularity, even his son would as a sickly child is the opposite of inspiring. Their survival and liberation would have weakened the White movement, but their martyrdom strengthened it.

>>17948320
>and my kid starved to death in Petersburg
Except the only ones who starved Petrograd to death were bolsheviks. Before the revolution population of the city was around 2,5 million and by the end of the Civil War it was less than a million.

>>17950774
Some tyrants got away with it. That doesn't mean that they didn't deserve to be killed.
>But comparing to commie rule Empire was heaven on Earth.
Cool ESL. Is that what your discord friend's coal miner great grandpa said?
>>17951202
>Who were minorities in the white movement.
They picked their side. Guilty by association.
>So you admit it is all emotional revenge and not justice.
No, mutt. Starving is not "mere emotion". And it was justice.
>>17951360
>Except the kids who died were children of (ideology that opposes my Indian caste system] so it doesn't matter.
Now when you have an exceptionist view of child murder, why are you crying about people reveling in the divine punishment inflicted onto the Romanovs?

>>17947080 (OP)
>>17947082
shityids

>>17951468
The only ones who received divine punishments were the Russians and the Bolsheviks. Famine, humiliation, poverty and death is all they got.

>>17951468
>That doesn't mean that they didn't deserve to be killed.
The fact is Tsar didn't deserve it, you mentally ill faggot

>>17951468
>guilty by association
So a vocal minority represents 100% of a diverse group? How retarded are you?
>it was justice
It wasn't. It was an impromptu murder. That is called vigilantism